September 23, 2026 · 52:18

Heidi St. John is here to discuss the contrast between being salt and light and being lightly salted.

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0:00 - 15:00. James 4:6. God stands against the proud. 15:00 - 31:00. Heidi St. John is here to discuss the contrast between being salt and light and being lightly salted. 31:00 - 48:00. We do not have to consent to advancing darkness.

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0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
0:03It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
0:06This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
0:10It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite.
0:15Delivery people out of the bondage of mainstream media.
0:18And the philosophies of this world.
0:20God has called you and me to be His ambassador.
0:24Even in this dark moment.
0:26Let's not miss our moment.
0:28and now the Hamilton Corner. Good evening everyone welcome to the Hamilton Corner right here on
0:38American Family Radio where we are broadcasting live from Orlando Florida as we are here for the
0:49home school legal defense association's 2026 National Leaders Conference. I'm so grateful to be here
0:55with you Abraham Hamilton the third is my name Mr. J. Mac produce extraordinary often
1:01imitated never duplicated is with us here on site. My main man 100 grand Mr. Bobby
1:07has got the board on lock enabling us to broadcast on location for this evening's program and
1:15we are ready to rock and roll at this very minute many of you if not most of you are making
1:21your transition from your part time jobs where you generate an income to your full time jobs
1:26where you cultivate an outcome. And as you do so, I want to encourage you to do so with
1:30intentionality, understanding the primacy that God places on family and welcoming his
1:36view to govern, guide and to guard your not only understanding, but your engagement in your
1:42homes. I say it repeatedly and I will say it again today. I refuse to allow the headlines
1:47of the day, the stories of the day, the lying, talking snake media to manipulate you away
1:53from doing what is required of you right where you are.
1:57We must live locally and as you live locally, that most immediate engagement outlet for your
2:06living locally is right in your own homes.
2:10You know, husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself for her.
2:15love and submit to your own husbands. It's unto the Lord husbands and wives
2:20together rear your children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord with
2:25husbands being ultimately responsible for that. As I am telling you that making
2:30that statement God knows the stations of life that we are in. God knows some of us
2:36are in various stages some of you have adult children and are not in the home
2:39anymore. Some of you are grandchildren some of you may be widower some of you
2:43Maybe widow some of you may never have had children, but the reality is this we must
2:49Exalt the king of glory starting right in our own homes
2:52And if we would welcome the Lord to grasp a hold of us in our homes
2:57There's no question as to what we could accomplish and it is it should be
3:03instructive for us that
3:06Western civilization including our own constitutional republic with Democrat features flows from it flows outwardly from
3:13the revelation of the Amago Day.
3:16It flows outwardly from the application of a biblical worldview to society.
3:21We must never forget that. It will never work in the reverse.
3:25You will not be able to start with an assessment of the features of Western civilization
3:30and then work toward trying to cultivate some semblance of godliness of biblical fidelity.
3:38It will not work in that direction.
3:41because if you have a godless pursuit of ordered liberty, guess what you're going to end up?
3:47You're going to end up at the same place where the godless end up.
3:50But if we would humble ourselves, this is what God tells us.
3:54If we would humble ourselves and submit to God,
3:59Satan has no course, no option but to flee from us.
4:05That is the reality.
4:06If we would humble ourselves, submit to God,
4:10The darkness must flee, which is why I say repeatedly darkness is not an affirmative force, but it reoccupies the space that is vacated by
4:19The light and all that is necessary and we know this intuitively what is necessary
4:25To vanquish the darkness is to turn the light on none of us goes home at the end of a workday
4:30Many of you are doing gonna do that in a few moments. You're heading home right now. None of us say hey, honey
4:35would you turn the darkness off? Nobody says that. It is because we know that what is needed
4:41to vanquish the darkness is to turn the light on. If it's to turn the light on, that's what
4:47we need to have done. So as you're making your transition from your part time jobs to your
4:53full time jobs, let me remind you, do it. We must all do this with intentionality. In light
5:00of that, I'm going to turn to the Word of God, but I'm going to start with the principle.
5:03But then I want to revisit a biblical text we've been talking about for quite some time.
5:08In James chapter 4, the Lord says this very plainly, that God gives greater grace.
5:15Therefore it says God is opposed to the proud.
5:19God is opposed to the proud but gives grace to the humble.
5:23When the scripture says God gives greater grace, the Greek terminology there is, myzan karis.
5:28God gives myzan karis.
5:31He opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.
5:34And as, and this is really a part of my personal devotions,
5:37I don't usually do this for the show,
5:39but I was reading in the book of Isaiah,
5:41and Isaiah chapter nine,
5:42there's a portion of scripture that God identifies,
5:45and his word he says, that this is an assertion made in pride
5:49and in the arrogance of heart.
5:51And Isaiah chapter nine, it's wedged
5:53between the texts in chapters eight and chapter 10,
5:57when the Lord prophesies specifically through Isaiah,
6:00that the Assyrian Empire would be used to judge them.
6:04He says it specifically in chapter eight,
6:06reaffirmed it in chapter 10.
6:08But in between those, as he diagnoses the problems
6:13that Israel is displaying a stiff neckness,
6:17that they're not properly discerning.
6:19He says this in Isaiah chapter nine,
6:21verses eight through 10.
6:24This is what he says,
6:25the Lord sends a message against Jacob
6:27and it falls on Israel.
6:28All the people know it.
6:30That is, Ephraim and the inhabitants of Samaria,
6:34asserting in pride and in arrogance of heart,
6:38the bricks have fallen down,
6:40but we will rebuild with smooth stones.
6:43The Sycamores have been cut down,
6:44but we will replace them with cedars.
6:48And the Lord makes this identification
6:50because the people of Israel,
6:51this is specifically referring to the Lord
6:53and the Kingdom of Israel,
6:54prior to their conquest by the Assyrians.
6:58And unlike the Southern Kingdom of Judah,
6:59There was no backseat.
7:00There was no comeback from it.
7:02And the Lord says, this assertion is made in pride.
7:05You recognize that the bricks are falling.
7:06You see something is wrong.
7:08You see things are happening, but instead of those things provoking a humility and a repentance
7:15and a turning to God, the Israelites unilaterally concluded, oh well, the bricks are falling.
7:20Well, we'll just replace them with smooth stones.
7:23Some translations, they are say, dress stones.
7:25Woods is replacing them with dress stones.
7:28The sycamores have been cut down.
7:30have been cut down. So these are not a sycamores that have just fallen by
7:36feature of natural occurrences. There is an external force that has been applied
7:40to the sycamores that has led to them being cut down. The Israelites in an
7:44under-searning yet God says, and a prideful assertion says, oh well, we're replacing
7:49with cedars. Why am I presenting this? I'm presenting this to us today because
7:55many people in our country right now look around and say, man, things are going
7:59on her eye.
8:00What do you mean you got a city Supreme Court justice who doesn't know what a woman is?
8:04What are you talking about?
8:05What are you talking about?
8:07And I said then during her confirmation area, I said this is one of the most absurd assertions
8:11I've ever heard in the confirmation hearing because she's inevitably going to be a part
8:15of the deliberating on a case that's going to go up before her.
8:18What's happened since you've been on the bench?
8:19That exact same thing has happened.
8:21You know, in our society, we're having conversations.
8:23I never forget where the state of Tennessee had to argue, had to argue that it had the
8:28lawful authority to protect its minor citizens from genital mutilation and
8:33chemical concentration and you have people saying no oh you can't do that it's
8:37Marat like that that's that is absurd we we're we're right now and I and let's
8:43just be real about this and I'm not advocating in favor of this but remember
8:48how up in arms our society was when when Michael Vick was fighting dogs and
8:53dogs and being killed and all that kind of stuff then we just see women showing
8:57up and pink to support a woman who won't fight in dogs, she's strangled all three children to death.
9:03What is going on with us guys? This is crazy, but we need to be mindful of the notion that it
9:09is viewed from God's standpoint to be an assertion of pride to say, well, we'll just build it,
9:15we'll just stop being heard this before, we'll just build it back better.
9:19We'll just go ahead on and do it on our own with no consideration of the necessity of turning to God
9:24and I will remind you again that this is also the people that have a duty around me 28.
9:28that the first 14 verses of the chapter have,
9:32you know where Fred Hammon's song came from.
9:33We're blessed in the city.
9:35Well, guess what?
9:36That chapter has doubled the amount of negative consequences.
9:4028 entire verses that say,
9:42if you do not harden diligently to the Lord your God,
9:45then these things will befall you.
9:46And the Lord said explicitly,
9:48when the heavens, if the heavens are shut up his brass
9:50and there be no rain,
9:51that's not an occasion for you to start going around
9:53and hopping around a fire dancing before a pagan deity
9:57who professes to be a DD over agriculture.
10:00No, if the heavens are shut up as brass,
10:02it is because God is trying to communicate to you
10:04that you have violated his standards,
10:06that you've gone crossways with him.
10:09But if we had this continued assertion
10:12that we're just gonna, we're gonna just fix it
10:14in our own strength, we're gonna humanistically make the change,
10:17we're gonna do this on ourselves.
10:18I want to point out to you that the Lord
10:20through the prophet Isaiah says, be careful,
10:23because that is an assertion of pride.
10:24And put that together with what we just talked about
10:27from the book of James.
10:28How does God respond to the proud?
10:32Our national history,
10:35the United States of America's history,
10:37demonstrates that a king is not saved by the might of his army.
10:42Our nation's history is a goliath story.
10:45We had no business as a fledgling nation of colonists,
10:51dethoning King George.
10:52That's our national fiber and fabric.
10:57So when we ask, well, what makes a nation great?
10:59I rejoice at the notion that we had the most robust military in the world.
11:03But you know what?
11:03The Lord that I serve, he doesn't need the most robust military to be victorious.
11:08Our nation's history demonstrates that.
11:10More importantly than that, the Word of God demonstrates that.
11:14So then what's needed?
11:16A booming economy alone does not make a nation great.
11:19Well, what makes a nation great?
11:20The scripture tells us, Proverbs 1434, Psalm 33, righteousness exults a nation.
11:26Sinners are approaching any people.
11:28If you're wondering what has happened to our society,
11:29people go on crossways.
11:31People who seemingly would be intelligent
11:34come up with the most ridiculous assertions.
11:37The Lord told us, as he had 61st,
11:40when darkness covers the earth,
11:41gross darkness covers the people,
11:42you have a generalized darkness in the society,
11:44and you have a particularized darkness in the minds
11:48of people.
11:50We shared the data on this show
11:51that from within the last 25 years,
11:55the numbers of unmarried young men
11:57between the ages of 20 and 39 years old,
11:59it's not almost two to one,
12:02now almost two to one.
12:05Guys, the issue that we have most prevalently
12:09is we must return to the Lord, but here's the thing.
12:12Here's the thing God has ordained his people
12:14to be his hands and feet.
12:16And if we are going to allow cowardice to govern us,
12:20to where we are afraid to open up our mouths,
12:22to tell the truth, to tell the truth.
12:26I told you guys my story.
12:27I didn't know anything about political assertions
12:30and all these kind of things.
12:31The first time I heard the word conservative,
12:32it was launched at me as an insult.
12:34And if you're just a conservative,
12:36I had no clue what it meant.
12:38All I knew, and I told him this, I said,
12:39when I know that the Lord has saved me
12:42and he's given me this, it's called his word.
12:43And I'm gonna live with every breath
12:45that he gives me to live according
12:47to what he requires of me.
12:52But we have to say something, we have to stand up.
12:55We have to be willing to do the thing.
12:58And again, it shouldn't be surprising
12:59that when the Lord says you will peculiar people
13:02that we actually are viewed as being peculiar to the world.
13:06I said a long time ago, I'm not interested
13:08in ingratiating myself to the broad rotors.
13:11I'm not interested in that.
13:13I mean, one time I showed up on right wing watch.
13:16You know, that little thing was on the website,
13:18right wing watch, you put my own right wing watch.
13:21You know, it's like, what is that?
13:23You can say what you want.
13:25But this is what the word of God teaches.
13:28but we must have the wherewithal to say,
13:31listen, you can have your opinion,
13:35you can have your delusion,
13:37you can say that this is where you stand,
13:40but you have the right to be wrong,
13:42but I'm not gonna allow your wrongness to cause me
13:45to be mute or to try to amend the truth of God's word.
13:49And here's the other thing,
13:50and I say this with repetition,
13:52but the fact that you and I are alive right now
13:54was not a conventional coincidence of modernity.
13:57Acts 17 says that God has divinely ordained
14:01before you and I ever inhaled or exhaled one breath
14:04to be alive in this moment.
14:06And then he told us why, so that we should seek God.
14:09First, we will seek God and there'll be advocates
14:12of God being sought.
14:13So he's not surprised by the craziness that surrounds us.
14:17He's actually ordained us for this moment.
14:19So what are we gonna do with it?
14:22What are we gonna do about it?
14:24Well, we love the Lord with all of our heart,
14:27our soul, our strength, and love our neighbors as ourselves,
14:30and that love for our neighbors is the love
14:32that is not based on convenience,
14:34but we love them in that fashion
14:36because eternity truly hangs in the balance.
14:39And if we have an eternal seat for the love
14:43that we have with display for our neighbors,
14:44we'll have Jesus like compassion,
14:46which is not merely empathy.
14:48Jesus was moved from compassion on the crowds
14:50and guess what he did in response?
14:52He taught them many things.
14:54Guys, we've been ordained for this moment.
14:56Let's be about our Father's Christmas.
15:01discipleship minute with Joseph Parker. Psalm 23 beginning at verse 1.
15:06The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want. He makes me to lie down in green pastures.
15:14He leads me beside the still waters he restores my soul. He leads me in the
15:21paths of righteousness for his name's sake. Yea, though I walk through the valley of
15:26the shadow of death I will fear no evil for you are with me.
15:31You're riding your staff, they comfort me.
15:35You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies.
15:40You anoint my head with oil my cup runs over.
15:44Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life.
15:49And I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever.
15:53All of Psalm 23.
15:55Shining light into the darkness, this is the Hamilton Corner, an American family radio.
16:15Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner everybody.
16:16We are live in Orlando, Florida for the 2026 Home School Legal Defense Association's National
16:22Leaders Conference.
16:24Very simply put, I've said this and I'll say it again here, I believe that God allowed the
16:29home schooling movement to be pioneered as a primary vehicle to cascade generational
16:35disciple making and to pave the way for it to be done legally.
16:41When many of the pioneers of the homeschool movement in the
16:4470s and 80s began doing what they were doing, it was illegal
16:48in many states. And thanks, Peter God, for the sacrifices, the
16:51courage and the conviction and investment that they made,
16:53people like me, and my lovely wife Maria can just breeze on
16:57in. But here's the thing, the assaults and the efforts to to
17:01curtail those liberties are just as viable, if not
17:05even more today so we must remain vigilant if you are listening to this program and I know
17:11that lots of you who already are discipling your children at the home and homeschooling,
17:15you need to join HSLDA because it is the premier ministry available to you to make sure that
17:21you are able to secure and advance your freedoms and some of you who are listening are even
17:26second generation homeschoolers.
17:28It is because of your parents and grandparents investments that you're able to do what you
17:31do well if you want to make sure that your children and Lord willing your grandchildren
17:35have the freedoms that you enjoy you need to support HSLDA right now HSLDA.org is the website
17:43where you need to go full disclosure most of you know I'm on the board for HSLDA and
17:47I'm grateful to God to be able to serve that capacity and the woman seated to my right is
17:51also on the HSLDA board it is none other than the host of the profound stirring purifier
18:01Heidi St John podcast. It is the Heidi St John ladies and gentlemen, please join me and welcome
18:06her to the program. That was ridiculous. In a good way. The best way possible. It was ridiculous.
18:14I agree. Having me. It's good to see you. Really good to see you. Good to see you. Thank you
18:21for being here. We had some conversations earlier today and I wanted to continue those
18:25conversations on the air because you heard what I was saying just now. I'm off the scene
18:29show darkness not an affirmative force, it merely reoccupies the space that is
18:33vacated by the light. The simple reality is in our nation where we've been able
18:36to inherit the freest most successful country in human history that darkness
18:42can only advance with our consent. That's right and we're about to give it up.
18:45We're about to give it up. This is an amazing time to be an
18:49American. It's an amazing time to be a Christian. I've never seen more cowardice
18:52in our pulpits than I'm witnessing right now as I traverse around the country
18:56speaking to Christians and I said, you know, at a church I was at just a couple of
19:01days ago in Vero Beach, Florida. I said that what's happened is the C in the 501c3
19:06has began to stand for coward. It's turned our pastors and our nonprofit leaders
19:12into cowards and they hide behind the 501c3 and they'll hide behind it and they'll
19:16say, hey, you know, I'm sorry we're a nonprofit we're not allowed to talk about
19:19that stuff, which isn't true. No, by the way, not true. You know, the left is
19:24taken the lie of separation of church and state and infused it into the church and into our
19:28everyday conversations and it's going to take courage. I want to see that C and 501 C 3 stand
19:34for courage again. Yeah. Well, that really, really makes me angry because if you're a church,
19:39you do not have an obligation to require to file or organize your assembly as a 501 C 3
19:46organization by virtue of being a church, you are inherently exempt from federal taxation.
19:50A lot of people don't know that.
19:51It's on the IRS is on website.
19:54You know, it's on the website.
19:55I'll post a link to it in the show notes.
19:57I'm not kidding.
19:57I didn't even know that.
19:58I've been talking about this for years, not even know that.
20:00Oh, that's a fact.
20:01You know, churches do not have to organize
20:02as a 501c3 federally.
20:04Yeah, it texts that to me, brother.
20:05I'm gonna light it up.
20:07Yeah, I'll text it to you.
20:08I have it.
20:09I keep it at the ready because a lot of people
20:10say what you just said.
20:11I didn't know that.
20:12The 501c3 racket was created.
20:14Yeah, I'll send it to you right now.
20:15It's a racket.
20:16Was created as a vehicle to hinder.
20:20the church. Well, it's worked. Yeah, it's worked very well. It's absolutely worked.
20:23Well, it worked. And the number of pastors, I mean, you know this in 2022, I ran for Congress
20:29in Washington State's Third Congressional District. And I approached probably roughly 200 pastors to
20:35say, listen, you know, Christian homeschool mom, I live in your neck of the woods, I want to represent
20:40the values that made this nation the greatest nation on the face of the earth. I want to take
20:44those values to Congress. I want to represent them. And I would love the opportunity to speak to
20:48your church to stand in the entryway to just shake hands with your parishioners, to be able
20:54to hand out a leaflet, to say who I am and please come out and vote.
20:57Do you know how many of those pastors replied to me in the affirmative out of 200?
21:02No, I don't know.
21:03Two.
21:05Two.
21:06And I'm here to tell you Abraham, if the church would show up, if God's people would actually
21:11be the salt and light that He's called us to be, we would win.
21:15And we wouldn't just win marginally.
21:18We'd win in a landslide.
21:19If we took the principles of God's word with us into the ballot box, we'd win.
21:26We'd win.
21:28That is so true.
21:30It is noteworthy.
21:31Look in the book of Revelation.
21:32I know you've read this.
21:34I've taught my own children this when the Lord lists those who have earned, qualified themselves
21:40for the Lake of Fire.
21:41And not only is it included in the list, but at the very front of the list, the first category
21:46of people who qualify for the lake of fire are the cowards.
21:49Cowardess.
21:50The Cowardly, which is a contrast.
21:54This one of the major features of the scripture explains is a characteristic of being filled
21:58with the spirit of God is boldness.
22:00But the righteous are as cowardly as lions.
22:03They're the waztawizard of us.
22:05Righteous are as bold as the lion.
22:09There is a boldness that is produced there.
22:11And what's happening, what you're describing seems to fit this very well instead of being
22:16something like we're being lightly salted. Boy. That'll preach, you know, the Bible says in Psalm
22:22107 verse 4, let the redeemed of the Lord say so. We are called to have a faith that speaks.
22:30Our faith should speak. It should speak in every area of our lives. And yet we see Christians
22:34who are saying, I'm just going to stay here behind the four walls of my church and make
22:37sure that I get, you know, I get on the rotation for the potluck on Sunday. And shame on us.
22:42I loved how you ended your last segment when you said we were born for this time in human history
22:48We've been appointed to live for such a time as this and God has us here on assignment
22:52The question is what is the assignment and will we show up? Yeah, absolutely
22:55So how do you sense you pose the question? What is the assignment? What will we show up?
23:01Consider the fact that the Lord could have allowed us to be born in any other nation. I could be very easy be you know Chinese
23:07He's drunk, drunk, joining Hamilton.
23:09That was a translation.
23:11That was a translation.
23:12That meant to, you know, I could very easily be
23:15South Sudan, you know, but the Lord allowed me
23:18to be a citizen of the United States of America.
23:21God, in the same text in Acts 17,
23:23not only were we born for the time that God has planted us in,
23:27but the fact that we live, where we live,
23:29is a feature of God's design likewise.
23:32The Lord has his remnant in every country, in every place.
23:34So full of the laws and the features,
23:39Article 4, Guarantee of Constitution,
23:40Republican from the government,
23:41God knew we would inherit that.
23:43Does the Lord expect anything less of us
23:45than the expected of people like the Apostle Paul,
23:47knowing his rights as a Roman citizen
23:50to advance the gospel than the Roman Empire?
23:52No, and Paul appealed to Rome as a Roman citizen.
23:55He didn't hide behind you.
23:56I'm a disciple of Jesus Christ.
23:58He didn't do that.
23:59He appealed to Rome as a Roman citizen.
24:01In the United States of America, we are Caesar.
24:04We have this incredible opportunity.
24:06And there are a lot of people in this country now
24:07who are sitting in the halls of Congress,
24:09who are sitting in the Senate,
24:10who would like to see those rights stripped from us.
24:13You and I were talking about this today,
24:15the Islamification of America.
24:16It's happening on our watch.
24:18We are watching people who literally hate this country,
24:21who Monday morning or shout in death to America,
24:24and Tuesday they're announcing a run for Congress.
24:27We gotta wake up, we gotta wake up.
24:28And this is where God's people can stand in the gap
24:31and say no, the Muslim faith is actually incompatible
24:35with the Constitution of the United States
24:37and the Constitution is not gonna defend itself.
24:39It's gonna take people who are willing and courageous
24:42and understand and honor and appreciate the sacrifices
24:47that were made so that you and I could live
24:49in the freest, most prosperous nation on the face of the earth.
24:52On balance, America has been a force for good
24:55around the country.
24:56What are you here coming out of our leftist universities
24:59and out of our high schools?
25:00America is just a bunch of colonizers.
25:01Oh, America is just this evil place.
25:03I'm sure you've heard Hassan Piker talk how he hates America.
25:06Who's Hassan Piker hanging out with?
25:09Al Sayed, he's hanging out with Mondani in New York.
25:11These people hate our country.
25:13And somehow, we become so blind that we've allowed
25:18this socialist mindset, this Islamist mindset,
25:22to take root in our country.
25:23It's a cancer, and the only way to get it out
25:25is if people who love the country and love God will show up.
25:29Funny you said that a little just shared on social media, my x-feed in particular.
25:35There was several Muslim clerics who were gathered and were speaking and explaining that Islam
25:41is not here in America to get along.
25:45No, they're not.
25:47So you rarely get this kind of candor.
25:49You know, sometimes, I won't say rarely, it doesn't often occur.
25:52But he said it was Islam's compromise that led to the Muslims losing Spain.
25:58He says that.
25:59He said, yeah, he said that because we compromised, that's why we lost Spain.
26:05So we're not, we're learning from that era.
26:07We're not here in America to go along to get along and not here to assimilate.
26:12Yeah, no, he said it because I'm a Muslim, I should be expected that I believe Islam is
26:18the best Islam is right.
26:20And yes, my goal is for America to become an Islamic nation.
26:23Yes.
26:24He said this explicitly.
26:25Yes, I want Sharia.
26:26Yes, I want Sharia.
26:28which makes me think about Abdul Al-Sayed because
26:32before he was running for the US Senate,
26:33he said himself likewise.
26:35He wants Sharia, but a few days ago
26:37in his interview with Jesse Waters on TV, he said,
26:39well, he's not trying to impose Sharia law
26:42on anybody.
26:43Should he believe him?
26:44No, he's a liar.
26:45He's a liar because he serves the prince of the darkness,
26:48the prince of the power of the air,
26:50who the Bible says is the father of lies.
26:52And so when someone doesn't serve the king of kings
26:54and the Lord of lords, then he's serving the evil one.
26:57And so we know that he's lying.
26:59And actually history tells us that he's lying.
27:01The Muslims are not here to assimilate and Islam.
27:05And we need to stop calling it a religion.
27:07Islam is not a religion.
27:08It is a political system of conquest.
27:10And everywhere that it has ever gone
27:12anywhere around the world,
27:14watch what's happening in Nigeria right now.
27:16Everywhere that Islam has taken root, people have died.
27:20They are not here to assimilate.
27:21They're not here so that we'll turn five times a day
27:24and bow toward Mecca.
27:25they're here to say either you convert to Islam or be killed.
27:29That's exactly what they're up to.
27:31Or pay the jigia for a little while.
27:32Yeah, pay a little tax and then we'll kill ya.
27:34Yeah.
27:34Yeah.
27:34And then we need to be clear about something.
27:36There's a reality of backslidden Muslims.
27:41And I said this all the time.
27:43I know quantitatively speaking, the majority of Muslims are not al-Qaeda
27:47ISIS terrorists, but it doesn't require a majority.
27:50The estimates are that there are five to six million Muslims in America.
27:54and the percentage of those who they determine
27:56called radicalized.
27:57And I even challenge that notion of radicalization
28:00because I think you need to be honest about
28:02whether or not the people who they deem is radicalized
28:04are they operating consistent with the teachings
28:08of the Quran, of the Hadith.
28:11Can they just call them nominal Muslims?
28:13Yeah, or are they-
28:15You might be a Muslim but you're not following the Hadiths
28:17you're not following Quran because if you were,
28:20then you and I are infidels and we should be killed
28:22for our faith.
28:23Yes, that's what they, that's what it's called.
28:25I mean, I'm sorry if people don't like it.
28:27That's the truth. Read the Quran, read the Hadiths,
28:29read how they treat women.
28:30Where are the feminists?
28:31I'd really like to know.
28:32I'd really like to know as we're watching the mutilation
28:36of young girls happening right here now in the United States,
28:39we watch how they treat their women.
28:41We watch how they view women in the public square women at all.
28:46And I gotta tell you, I am more concerned now
28:50than I have ever been.
28:51You and I both are friends with Rick Green
28:53and I was telling you last night at dinner
28:55that they recently had a close encounter
28:59with a radicalized Muslim group
29:01trying to buy a property right next door
29:03to Patriot Academy in Constitution City, Texas.
29:06These people are moving into the,
29:08what we consider to be very safe red places
29:11and they are establishing mosques.
29:13And believe me when I say when they establish
29:15these places of worship, they are claiming a territory.
29:18That's exactly what they're doing.
29:20And I think it's time for Christians and people,
29:22you don't even have to be a Christian
29:24to understand the history of Islam.
29:26And we need to have clear-eyed conversations
29:28about it, not apologize for it.
29:30This is the truth.
29:30Are there backslidden Muslims?
29:32Yes, are there backslidden Christians?
29:33You know, I know lots of Christians
29:35who don't adhere to the Bible, who are sleeping around
29:37and not training their children up to 11,
29:39follow Jesus Christ, but claim the name of Christ, right?
29:42So there are Muslims who claim to be Muslims,
29:44but they are nominal Muslims.
29:45But if you're gonna walk in the path of Allah,
29:48It's not gonna be pretty for anybody who's in your path that doesn't convert.
29:53Yeah.
29:54And I was gonna say when the concept of colonization comes up, I think it's a remarkable omission
30:00that Islam has never discussed in the context of colonization.
30:04It is without conquest and colonization, you don't get a Muslim North Africa.
30:10You don't get an andalus, an Islamic andalus.
30:14It is not a social political system because it's not confined to religion.
30:23It is a political system.
30:26You don't get the establishment of the caliphate, for example, without conquest and colonization.
30:33It does not happen.
30:34Well, that's Dearborn, Michigan.
30:36That's Dearborn, Michigan.
30:37It's conquest and now it's colonization.
30:39Well, no, first it's colonization and then it's conquest.
30:41And listen, these people are running openly on their Muslim ideology, they're running openly
30:49that they want to see Sharia take place in the United States.
30:53When these people say who they are, we should believe them.
30:55We should believe them.
30:56And I don't know.
30:57I don't know what the, I was having this conversation with Rick Green with Bill Federer
31:01just a couple of weeks ago.
31:02I don't really know what the solution is except for us to begin city by city and state
31:08by state taking back our uh... christian and our american tradition and saying if
31:14it if you're gonna yell death to america in one in one breath that you want to
31:18share the law
31:19bye bye
31:20mmm-hmm you know you you can revoke citizenship from these people can we not
31:25that absolutely can't we can it's it's not a question
31:29of what can be done the issue is do we have the
31:31will that the political courage because
31:34the united states of america just mentioned article for the u.s. constitution
31:37guarantees to every american citizen so let me unpack a couple things first
31:41things first the the ancient conversation about states' rights is really
31:44a misnomer because the only within the american system of governance
31:49the only entity with rights is the individual is the individual
31:53states have delegated powers well who delegates the power to the states
31:59the people the people article for the u.s. constitution guarantees to every
32:04citizen a constitutional Republican form of government. So any system of
32:10government that threatens that article for right is by nature inherently
32:14unconstitutional. Now do we have the political will to state clearly this
32:19system of social political supremacy that denies our constitution is incompatible
32:24with our constitution? Do we have the will to say so? I think we need to have more
32:28conversations about utilizing the freedoms that we have to articulate
32:31clearly know your system would subvert my Constitution would deprive me my wife my
32:36six children of their article for guaranteed of a constitutional Republican
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32:44republic what does that mean and what does it mean to preserve that freedom
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36:46Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton the third here.
36:49My guest is host of the Heidi St. John podcast, a woman who's been contending on the front
36:55lines. Heidi St. John, thank you for being on the program here with me. Thanks for
37:00having me. I'm just waiting for you to announce a run for president. I was like,
37:04look, we're gonna have another Hamilton in the White House. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
37:09Let's go. Alright. Well, you heard it here. Now just kidding. I wanted to ask
37:16this question because I didn't intend for this to be kind of a Islam-centric
37:21conversation, but hey, we're here already. I was sharing with you before we came on
37:24the program just today there was an interview from the Michigan Attorney
37:27General. I have her name here. It escaped me from a Dana Nestle is her name. Dana
37:34Nestle is the Michigan Attorney General. She's a committed Democrat. However, she's
37:38Jewish. She interviewed Syed and asked the question, is there room in a Syed
37:47perception of the state of Michigan for Jews. In light of this conversation and
37:56the conversation ended with Dana Nessel offering her endorsement for Abdul Al-Sayed
38:03who is vehemently hostile to Israel and to Jewish people. Yet she offers him her
38:11endorsement. We're seeing an ascendancy of this proverbial bill.
38:15federal talks about it as well this red green alliance which i've explained our
38:19audience here that it is not a novel feature that red green alliance is
38:22literally with lead to the islamic revolution of iran it was
38:27perjure before the word iran actually is a transliteration from area and that's
38:31what to annihilate the jews
38:33what do people need to understand when they see wait a minute
38:38these marxis seem to walk lock and step with islamist
38:42in our country would be to understand about that well i mean they need to
38:45understand that you can't have the islamification of america without first
38:48becoming culturally marxist
38:50so that's what you saw
38:52in the attorney general you saw her uh... just bowing down and kiss in the ring
38:56because she has a feeling she's got to get feeling the rip the democrat the
39:00blue dot democrats are gone
39:02the democrat party of the nineteen sixies the democrat party that my grandparents
39:06understood and they weren't democrats but i i think i believe
39:10that there is absolutely, I mean actually if you went back,
39:13you know, 20, 30, 40 years, Republicans today
39:15are like the Democrats used to be.
39:16And the Republicans have really lost their footing too, right?
39:19And so we're sliding farther and farther and farther
39:21into cultural Marxism, even on the right.
39:25And I ran against Guy O'Nerran for Congress
39:27who I told many people was so far right that he was left.
39:30And so you see people who bench a period calls
39:32around the horseshoe right, they used to people on the left
39:34and somewhere in the middle are common sense people.
39:37Al-Sayed is not a common sense person.
39:39Alsaya doesn't care one wit about the Jews.
39:42Again, we talked about this earlier, these people are liars.
39:45And this woman is a perfect example of,
39:47I'm going to burn the forest down for the trees.
39:50And so the cognitive dissonance that we see happening
39:54on the left right now who are embracing ideologies
39:57that are absolutely opposed to the American way of life,
40:00opposed to our constitution up until five minutes ago,
40:03Abraham, we believed and we agreed that America
40:06was the greatest country on the face of the earth.
40:09Well, I still believe that.
40:09Right, we agreed, but as Democrats and Republicans,
40:12we agreed about this stuff.
40:14We don't agree anymore.
40:15We agreed that men are women and women are women.
40:17We do not agree anymore.
40:19The chasm between the two parties now,
40:22these two belief systems, these two platforms is so great.
40:25We're not talking about Republican versus Democrat anymore.
40:28We're actually talking about good versus evil,
40:30right versus wrong.
40:31There is so much evil in our political system right now,
40:35largely because Christians have abandoned the spear.
40:38We said, hey, politics is dirty.
40:40We don't belong in that separation of church and state.
40:42We're not allowed to talk about that.
40:43What's the one thing that you grew up hearing
40:45when you were a kid that we don't talk about it Thanksgiving?
40:48We don't talk about religion and we don't talk about politics.
40:50Except for Thanksgiving is nothing but religion and politics.
40:53And yet we were told, oh, you can't talk about those things.
40:55Christians don't do that in polite society.
40:57The fact that you have a Thanksgiving holiday
40:59is because of religion and politics.
41:00That's absolutely right.
41:01And so we've been brainwashed and led to believe
41:04but it's somehow as God's people,
41:06we don't belong in the political sphere.
41:08And pastors stopped talking about it,
41:10we stopped encouraging our people to vote.
41:12I don't know if I ever told you this,
41:13but my grandfather was a pastor.
41:15At a little of that.
41:16Yeah, at a little evangelical free church,
41:18just outside of Portland, Oregon,
41:19or as my friends in the South call it the gates of hell.
41:22Whatever.
41:22So just outside of Portland, Oregon.
41:25And so that's where I grew up.
41:27And my granddad took me campaigning
41:29in the 80s for Ronald Reagan.
41:31So my grandfather, a committed believer, a pastor,
41:36took me, his young granddaughter, door to door, door knocking,
41:40because they understood that's how you win elections.
41:42And he would say, my name's Dan Forsberg,
41:44and the pastor of West Haven Evangelical Free Church.
41:46This is my granddaughter, Heidi.
41:48And she'd like to say something to you.
41:50She'd like to say something to you.
41:51And I would say, hi, my name's Heidi.
41:53I'm here to talk to you about Ronald Reagan.
41:55He's running for president.
41:56And my granddad told me that as a Christian,
41:59I had an obligation, a duty to this country to pay attention to what was happening politically.
42:06He was the one who told me, Heidi, politics determines policy and policy shapes the nation.
42:11God's people should be in the policy making business.
42:15My granddad told me that as a pastor.
42:17What has happened to our pastors today?
42:19What has happened to God's people that we would pull ourselves out of the realm of politics
42:25and allow evil to fill the vacuum?
42:27but the very least people who are not discerning.
42:29And this takes me right back to what's happening in Michigan.
42:32How did we get Dearborn Mission in?
42:34How if Alsayed gets voted in
42:37to represent the great state of Michigan,
42:39it will be because God's people stayed home.
42:41That will be the only reason that it happens.
42:44It will be because God's people stayed home.
42:46Because I guarantee you, Alsayed and all the other Muslims
42:49who are running for office around the country
42:51are not there because they wanna get along
42:53with the Jewish population.
42:54They're not there because they wanna make sure
42:55that Christians have a voice in the House of Representatives.
42:59When they get in and we see this happening
43:01in communities all around the country,
43:03they will Islamify that community.
43:05And if you go against it, boy, I'll tell you what,
43:07look what's happening on the streets of London right now.
43:10The Europe is finished as far as I can tell.
43:13Unless something really amazing happens,
43:15Europe as we knew it is over.
43:18It's interesting because people like Al-Sayed
43:20will say things like nobody's seeking to assert
43:24and advanced Sharia one at the exact same time.
43:26And this is something I just found in my own research
43:28that there's something called the FIC council,
43:31the FIC Sharia council of North America, F-I-Q-H.
43:35And they are the council that kind of oversees mosques
43:41and imams in North America,
43:45and they just issue what they call a zakat.
43:47I'm sorry, they just issued a ruling concerning the zakat,
43:50which is the Muslim tithe.
43:52that says that you can collect money
43:54at the mosques
43:56so that you can fund campaigns
43:58for muslim candidates
43:59and their most immediate goal in the effort to is islamized united states of
44:03america
44:04is getting thirty new congress members
44:07muslim congress members elected
44:09to advance the cause of islam in
44:12north america well on their way
44:15they're well on their way in the it did that well you got the squad already you
44:17do and the other things horrifying about this is that conservators are showing up
44:21on average in the last in the last election, the turnout was averaging anywhere from 27 to 34
44:30percent conservative turnout. You know how you know the rate of percentage that Muslims are turning
44:35out to vote upwards of 90 percent upwards of 90 percent and then people whine and cry,
44:40I can't believe it. I can't believe you lost. Well, how about you get up off your couch and you go
44:44talk to your neighbor? How about you talk to your kids about voting? How about you talk to your
44:48church and your pastor and your communities and the place that you work? Can you talk about
44:52the differences between the things that we believe in. One is one would bring freedom
44:56and prosperity, the other would be slavery, the objectification of women. People say the
45:01feminism, we don't want to be objectified women, but yet they let men into women's sports.
45:07They're going to let the Muslims run for office and require, Kathy Hochl, the governor of New
45:12York, what in the world? What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? I am, I mean,
45:19afraid is not the right word, horrified is a better word. I'm horrified at what we are allowing
45:25to take root in this country. Our founders would be, or they'd be turning in their graves
45:29that there was such a thing. Men bled and died so that we could be free and Islam would enslave.
45:35That's the bottom line.
45:38This is, I want to invite you to talk about this and I think it would resonate deeply having
45:44run for Congress yourself, one of the least attended elections in our country happened to
45:51be midterm elections, only to be seated by primary elections during the midterms.
45:57Lots of people complain about candidates and general elections, but they don't show up during
46:02primary elections.
46:03Yeah, you don't get the candidate you wanted in general because you didn't show up for
46:05the primary.
46:06That's the truth.
46:07Yeah.
46:08And that's what's happened election after election over time.
46:11That's led to where we are now.
46:12would you speak to the necessity of showing up during this midterm?
46:16I don't think there's ever been a more important midterm than we have now.
46:20If we lose, if Republicans lose control of you, the House or the Senate, I guarantee the impeachment
46:25hearings are going to begin, what they're trying to do is cripple President Trump.
46:29That really is the bottom line.
46:31They know they can't get much done.
46:32They're not going to be able to get any legislation passed.
46:34So the point is to cripple President Trump so that he can't continue with his agenda without
46:39being persecuted and tortured and followed all through the rest of his presidency.
46:44And the other thing that is really important for people to understand is to the left in this
46:49country, politics is religion, and they treat it that way.
46:52They treat it that way.
46:53They treat it like going to church.
46:55And it doesn't matter the messaging that you give as conservative as if people don't show
47:00up.
47:01Mike Ferris told me a long time ago that the surest way to lose was just not to show up to fight
47:06the battle.
47:07more and more Christians I'm finding and actually conservatives in general, I think they're tired.
47:11I think they want to win, right?
47:12And so when they don't win, they just go, oh, well, it's not worth it anyway.
47:16And you and I were talking about this before we started the show today that if they don't
47:19show up, the future of our country is hanging in the balance because guess what?
47:23The Muslims are going to show up.
47:25They're going to show up.
47:26I was just in Wilmington, North Carolina, and they've got a very important election coming
47:30up in this midterm as well.
47:32And most of those people in that room didn't even know that there was a Muslim man running
47:35for Congress in the seventh congressional district. They didn't even know. I was
47:40speaking in Vero Beach a couple days ago. I said, how many of you guys know who
47:43the president of the United States? Everybody raised their hand. How many of
47:45you guys know the vice president? Raise your hand. Secretary of War, raise your hand.
47:47You know, and I said, how many of you guys know who's sitting on your city
47:50council? One person. Yeah. One person. Our cities are not being ruined by the
47:57federal government. No. They're being ruined one paper cut at a time by people
48:02who are being elected to city councils who want to see things like Sheryl.
48:06Don't believe in male and female are the distinctions between the two of them who
48:10want to see parental rights stripped away from the parents whose kids are
48:13attending the broken woke disgusting public school system.
48:17This is happening on the local level.
48:19And when we say all politics is local, if people don't turn out and this means you
48:24got to, you got to do something.
48:25We're so, I mean Abraham, I'm very, as you can tell, I'm very frustrated.
48:28I saw this when I was running for Congress.
48:29We are the laziest generation of Americans ever to exist in this country.
48:33that we would forsake our sacred obligation, our duty to vote,
48:38and give it to people who hate this country
48:41and would like to see it upturned
48:42and turn into a communist nation
48:45is astonishing to me as someone who loves this country,
48:48as someone who loves it.
48:49It's one of the things that is the product
48:51of us having generational inheritors of freedom,
48:56that we haven't been the ones
48:58who've had the shed blood to secure it.
49:01And it's always a stark contrast.
49:03I, in an effort to maintain perspective in many ways,
49:07and also for a lot of different reasons,
49:09I watched things like immigrants who come to our country
49:13legally, and how, for things that many Americans take
49:16for granted like jury service, and the opportunity to vote,
49:20they look at these as highlights of existence.
49:23Like I didn't even know this, I learned recently
49:26that Cuba, which is an island that is a tropical island,
49:32that the Cuban citizens are not allowed to go to the beach.
49:35They cannot go to the beach.
49:36The beaches are exclusively limited to tourists,
49:40because the communist Cuban government
49:43is so deathly afraid of their citizens attempting
49:46to escape the island that they forcibly prohibit their citizens
49:50from going to the beach.
49:52a very dear friend of mine escaped from Cuba on a raft.
49:56And he tried the first time and was jailed.
50:01He tried the second time.
50:02Dailed for trying to leave.
50:03Jailed for trying to leave.
50:04He tried the second time and was picked up
50:07by the United States Coast Guard.
50:08And he said the best day of his life
50:09was when he set foot in Guantanamo Bay.
50:13Best day of his life.
50:14You can bet that guy shows up to vote.
50:16Yeah.
50:16You can bet he does.
50:17He was in Miami Beach not too long ago.
50:19I mean, this guy loves our country.
50:22like no one I've ever seen because he's experienced
50:24what it means to live in communism.
50:26And he walked down a section of Miami
50:29and they had pictures of communist dictators on there.
50:32And he started going into the stores and going,
50:34what are you guys doing?
50:35Yes.
50:35You don't like it here?
50:36Go back.
50:37Yes.
50:38You want to, you want to communist country,
50:39go to a communist country,
50:40but don't bring the filth of communism
50:42to the shores of the United States
50:43and expect us not to stand up against it.
50:45And yet that's what we're doing.
50:47Yeah.
50:48And when people don't vote, that's what we're gonna get.
50:51Midterms are vitally important and it requires a full-orbed investment.
50:58A lot of the battles that need to be fought, need to be fought during the primary stage
51:02and earlier areas, but we can't, we don't have the lawyers, we can't go back in time
51:08now, so what are we going to do now with what we have?
51:11And one of the major problems on the national level working is well, all the way down to
51:16the local level, but on the national level is the reality is much of what President Trump
51:20has done has been done by executive fiat. And it has not been established to made permanent
51:24via congressional action. But if you look back and I talk about Mr. Ice cream and Mr.
51:30Biden, you know, but a lot of the things during this administration was passed via congressional
51:34action. Whereas President Trump in his first term and his current term, most of what's
51:38been done domestically is a product of executive fiat, which will not be part of now. And if
51:44There is not a congressional basis to assert legislation that will be made permanent.
51:50We're going to see a repeat of what happened from 2016 to 2020.
51:54It'll just be done again from 2024 to 2028.
51:57Can't lose the midterms if we lose the midterms.
52:00We're going to lose America and I think that's really true.
52:02We got to vote like our lives depend on it because they do.
52:09The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American
52:14Family Association or American Family Radio.

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