September 3, 2026 · 49:18

("Best-of" Edition from 10/31/25) Heidi Olson, Founder and President of Paradigm Shift, steps into “The Corner.”

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0:00 - 15:00. 1 Timothy 4:12 (NASB95). What God has prescribed for youth differs greatly from what we experience. Biblical recalibration is required. 15:00 - 31:00. Heidi Olson, Founder and President of Paradigm Shift, steps into “The Corner.” 31:00 - 48:00. We are accountable to God for what we do with His heritage.

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0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
0:03It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
0:07This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
0:11It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite.
0:15Delivery people out of the bondage of mainstream media.
0:18And the philosophies of this world.
0:20God has called you and me to be his ambassador.
0:24Even in this dark moment.
0:26Let's not miss our moment.
0:28And now, the Hamilton Corner.
0:33Good evening, everyone.
0:34Welcome to the Hamilton Corner.
0:35My name is Abraham Hamilton III.
0:38Joined by the real Jay Mac.
0:41We're ready to rock and roll with today's edition
0:43of the program.
0:44Now, I'm going to say this.
0:45I don't, you know, most of you have been listening
0:48and watching the show for a while.
0:49And so you know, I don't say this often.
0:52I don't think I've ever said it.
0:54And if I did, it hasn't been more than once or twice.
0:59Maybe three times.
1:00Maybe I'm not sure.
1:02But I want to encourage you to listen to this program.
1:06And if you are a parent or a grandparent, an aunt or an uncle, anybody who interacts with children,
1:19I want to encourage you to tune in to this program and to prepare yourself now after you have listened
1:25to share it with as many people as you can.
1:29Because what we're going to get into during today's show is going to be
1:37startling for some of you. It's going to be shocking for some of you is going to be
1:45Confirmatory because some of you have been involved in situations
1:50Where you've experienced things like this, but you were not you weren't necessarily aware of how prevalent this phenomenon is
1:58and so
2:00is it's gonna be heavy.
2:05But it's important for people to know this information.
2:10But before we get too far into that,
2:12at this very moment, many of you, if not most of you,
2:14are making your transition from your part-time jobs,
2:16where you generate an income,
2:18to your full-time jobs where you cultivate an outcome.
2:20And I want to challenge you and encourage you to do so with intentionality.
2:25Every day that passes,
2:28every minute as the clock ticks down,
2:32and you know, it's so funny.
2:34Some people today don't even know how to read standard clocks
2:38because of the combination of the prevalence of digital timekeeping
2:44and the kind of dumbing down of our society.
2:50But we must work while it is done.
2:52We must take advantage of the time that God has given us
2:56to be about our father's business.
2:58Because what goes on in your house is far more important
3:01than what goes on in the White House.
3:03far more important because you and I are directly accountable to God and responsible for what
3:12is immediately within our power.
3:16If you have been investing yourself in your homes, please do not get weary and well doing.
3:26I say this often and simply because it's true, the grace of God is sufficient and covers
3:31all manner of sin.
3:33But sin has varied consequences in time.
3:37of the real sobering considerations that we must embrace is that we don't get to repeat
3:47our children's formative years.
3:51I've said before many of you know, I have two teenagers in my home now.
3:56We have six children, Marie and I have six children, six and holding for now it looks
4:02like, but we're open to more, having more, we are.
4:07It would be a great blessing from God.
4:08I'd be excited if we had another baby.
4:12But I don't get to go back.
4:13You know, my oldest boy is 14.
4:16Now I don't get to go back now and do ages six through eight.
4:19I don't get to do that over again.
4:23I just don't want you to be in a position
4:24where you sit and reflect and say,
4:26man, I wish I would have.
4:29I wish I would have.
4:30Now I see where I missed it.
4:33My hope and encouraging you daily
4:35is that we minimize the quantity of people
4:38that will have the, I wish I would have disposition, you know?
4:43And for those you're no longer in the stage,
4:46the life stage where you have young children in your home,
4:48man, take advantage of where you are now.
4:52One of the most enduring considerations we must have
4:56is that God is sovereign over when and where you
4:59obtain the revelation that you have.
5:01So my exhortations here are not for you to embrace any level
5:04of unbiblical, sinful condemnation, but to recognize man.
5:09This is where I am now.
5:12So if you're in a place where you're like, man,
5:13I wasn't able to do it with my children,
5:14but I want to make sure my grandchildren have it.
5:17Man, be about that life.
5:20Be about that life.
5:21Pray for your grands.
5:23Love on your grands.
5:24Love on your children.
5:25Pray for your children.
5:32Because the family is central to God's plan
5:35and we will never be able to remedy the deficiencies
5:41that abound in the home.
5:42Politics is not going to do it.
5:45Politics is important.
5:46It has its role, but it's not going to replace
5:48was supposed to happen in the family.
5:51Congressional legislation is not going to do it.
5:54It's important it has its role, but it's not going to replace
5:57the deficiencies that abound from the family
5:59and abound in the family.
6:02The church is not going to do it.
6:03This is what people need to understand.
6:05The scripture teaches that the primary ones responsible
6:08for the evangelization and the discipling of the children
6:13are the parents.
6:15The church is not institutionally capable of doing what
6:18family is supposed to accomplish.
6:22It can help it's a support, but it's not a replacement.
6:28Let's be about our Father's businessman.
6:30To the word of God, we go first Timothy chapter four, first Timothy chapter four.
6:36To embrace what I'm saying, one of the things that needs to happen in our society
6:43and these happen among the believer is that we must have a radical biblical recalibration
6:51across the board to say it differently.
6:53That radical biblical recalibration is Romans 12, one and two.
6:56Refuse to be conformed to the world, but being transformed by the renewing of our minds.
7:01The primary vehicle of that transformation is the word of God illuminated to our hearts and minds by the Spirit of God.
7:07We have to stop going along to get along, man, allowing the world to set the standard for us as to what we expect and to what we embrace as normal.
7:18Because for the believer,
7:21Pecuearity is supposed to be normal.
7:25The world is going to world, but the followers of the way,
7:31the followers of the way of Messiah should be peculiar.
7:36First Timothy chapter four, we have a source,
7:40or should say an articulation, of the type of radical recalibration that's necessary.
7:44Paul and writing in Timothy, who out by way of reminder in the book of Acts 14, 15, 16,
7:54where Paul first meets Timothy after Timothy's grandmother and his mother had invested in him
8:01as much as they could. God had an apostle Paul to come in and continue to pour in into disciple
8:09Timothy who ultimately becomes an elder in the Lord's church at Ephesus. But Paul says this to Timothy
8:16in verse 12, 1 Timothy chapter 4 verse 12, he says this, let no one look down on your youthfulness,
8:25But rather, in speech, in conduct, love, faith, and purity, show yourself an example of those
8:41who believe.
8:43I'm going to read that again.
8:44Let no one look down on your usefulness, but rather in speech, conduct, love, faith, and
8:52purity, show yourself an example of those who believe.
8:59So long we as humankind, and particularly in modern American society, and I would include
9:08in that professing believers, we have left room in our expectation for youthfulness to
9:15be synonymous with full heartiness, to be synonymous with an ignorance and a foolishness and a palpable
9:27evident lack of wisdom. But I will simply say, is that what the scripture says? Is should be normative.
9:34Now, I know what we experience, but the reality is we experience lots of things in the world that
9:41shouldn't be normative for the believer. In the world, hormunging is normative. Lusfulness is normative.
9:47Greed is normative. Cauvatiousness is normative. That shouldn't that shouldn't be normative
9:53for the household of faith.
9:57In the world, usefulness being synonymous
10:00to many areas in many ways, with full-hardiness
10:03and a lack of wisdom and given to folly,
10:08those things are normative in the world,
10:09but should that be our expectation?
10:12In the household of faith, I would simply say no.
10:15Here you have the Apostle Paul saying to Timothy,
10:20that Timothy should not make room for him within himself
10:23for people around him to look down upon him
10:27because of his youthfulness.
10:30Let no one look down upon you,
10:32or some translations will say,
10:33let no one despise your youthfulness,
10:38but rather, which means in contrast,
10:41in contrast to your youthfulness being conflated
10:45with a worldly expectation,
10:46rather you youthful Christ follower,
10:53you should show yourself an example
10:56of what it looks like to be in Christ.
11:00Now let's just pause and chew on that for a moment.
11:03How often do we consider that youthfulness
11:06for Christ followers should be conflated,
11:10it should be synonymous with,
11:11and this is an example of authentic Christ following.
11:16Is that our expectation?
11:18That our young ones will be examples
11:20of what authentic Christ following, what it looks like?
11:25Or have we been conformed to the world's expectation?
11:31You know, it shouldn't be lost on us
11:33that whenever you've had major movements throughout history,
11:38they're always driven by younger people.
11:43Isn't that amazing?
11:45And often it is younger people who have a potency and a zeal,
11:50but with a lack of corporal wisdom
11:52that are often manipulated to use the potency and zeal
11:54that is really God-given, but use it for wicked purposes.
11:58Well, what if we, as the body of Christ,
12:01Embrace what God says should be normative for younger people,
12:05but we are also invested in equipping our younger people
12:10with wisdom to where we set the expectation
12:13within ourselves first, and we set the expectation
12:15within them that you, in your youthful state,
12:18you should live in such a way where you are an example
12:21of what authentic Christ following should look like.
12:24And then Paul didn't leave it to that general consideration.
12:27He said that you should be an example to those around you
12:30of what a believer looks like in areas
12:32like speech. Your speech should be indicative of what authentic
12:36Christ's following should look like. At a conversation with some
12:39young people just this week, because you know, there's a trend
12:41that's been going on for a little while of this kind of brain
12:44rot expression, six, seven, six, seven. You know, when there's
12:49a young believer, not just simply ask them, and why are you
12:51repeating that? Where did that come from? He said, you know,
12:55it's just fun and it's just cool. I said, well, would it be
12:58cool if I said one, two? What did it be cool? I said 13, 14.
13:03He said, no, that's cringy.
13:04I said, oh, it's cringy.
13:06What makes it cringy?
13:08And then I asked this question,
13:09who sets the standard for what is cool and what is cringy?
13:15See you, young brother, and if someone a young man,
13:18I said, God has given you the capacity and the personality
13:22and the influence with your peers to where you are a leader.
13:25You shouldn't be limited to following trends.
13:28God has put you in a position where you lead in such a way
13:30and the way you lead will actually become trend setting
13:33within your peer group.
13:35and I brought them to the scripture.
13:37I said, you should be an example of those who believe
13:40starting with how you use your words.
13:43You could use your words for foolhardy, useless banter,
13:51but what you ultimately end up doing
13:52is you reduce the potency of your witness
13:55so that when you speak, people have an expectation
13:58that this foolishness is gonna come out
14:00as opposed to something substantive.
14:02But if you reserve your words
14:03or substantive engagement, you know, carry it,
14:05Walk softly, but carry a big stick.
14:08Then when you open your mouth,
14:09you'll be regarded with a bit more gravity.
14:12In your youthfulness, verse 12 goes on,
14:15that you can be an example of those who are authentic Christ
14:18followers in your conduct,
14:20the way you conduct yourself, your behavior,
14:23in your love, in your faith, in your purity.
14:29Guys, we must have a radical biblical recalibration.
14:33Because the biblical expectation is that Christ followers
14:38are youthful, they are to be examples to what authentic Christ following looks like in
14:44speech and conduct and love and faith and in purity.
14:50Purity is not merely abstaining.
14:52Purity drives toward the heart condition as we conduct ourselves with Holy Spirit and
14:57do self-control.
15:01This weekend on the Stand Radio, Isabella McMillan tells what it was like growing up in communist
15:06Romania before her life was changed by Jesus.
15:10biggest thing the government was controlling and making sure of is that God's name was not
15:15known in our country. So saying the name of God out loud or owning a Bible, those were
15:20the kind of things that would literally cost your life.
15:24The Stand Radio, Saturdays at 4 and Sundays at 8 PM Central on AFR.
15:35Shiting light into the darkness, this is the Hamilton Corner, an American family radio.
15:41Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton the third here, guys.
15:44I am delighted to have on the program someone with me.
15:47And as I told you before, you want to listen to this episode.
15:50You want to share it with your friends, family and loved ones.
15:53The conversation we're about to have on today's program is very weighty, very heavy.
15:58And I want to offer this disclaimer, especially for our younger listeners, please ask your
16:03parents permission before you listen to this program.
16:05Parents be advised.
16:06This is one you want to tune into before you allow your children here.
16:09I want to introduce my guest, guest who is the founder and president of Paradigm Shift,
16:18which Paradigm Shift training and consulting, which equips healthcare workers with skills-based
16:23training to be able to identify human trafficking and exploitation.
16:27She has a wide range of experience in pediatric and forensic nursing and has taught as an adjunct
16:32professor for several universities.
16:35She previously managed the SANE program at Children's Mercy, Kansas City, where she performed or
16:41reviewed over 1,500 pediatric forensic exams, many of them trafficking cases.
16:46She communicated with law enforcement, child protective services, and a large multidisciplinary
16:50team as well as educated hundreds of staff members on relevant topics concerning sexual
16:55violence.
16:56She also has served as an expert witness for the prosecution doing trial-swerve victims
17:00of sexual assault.
17:01and for those who may not be aware,
17:03saying S-A-N-E is an acronym for sexual assault nurse examiner.
17:08And my guest right now, the founder and president
17:12of Paradigm Shift is Heidi Olson.
17:15Heidi, thank you so much for joining me on the program.
17:19Absolutely my pleasure.
17:20Thanks for having me.
17:21Oh, I mean this with everything in me,
17:24the pleasure is truly mine.
17:26One of the most important aspects of who you are,
17:30to me as you're coming on the program is that you are a sister in Christ.
17:35And you have dedicated yourself to serving our Lord and exalting him through your professional
17:40engagement. So I personally appreciate that. And I know our audience does as well. Thank you so much for that.
17:46I guess I'd like to start. We can start here. Would you just share a little bit about how the Lord drew you to himself
17:51to become a Christ follower?
17:53So I was blessed to grow up in a home where both of my parents were Christian. So
17:58So I heard about Jesus and the gospel my whole life.
18:03I would say probably I really believed it when I was probably
18:07around five.
18:09And, you know, as life goes, it's never just this straightforward
18:15journey.
18:16So I grew up absolutely going to church.
18:19I went to a Christian school.
18:21So I knew all of the things about the Bible.
18:25I believed in Jesus, but life is not that simple,
18:29just right forward.
18:30So I experienced quite a bit of trauma
18:34when I was in college.
18:35And the way the church handled that was so deeply painful
18:40and traumatizing, I did not know how to reconcile those two things.
18:44So here at the age of two, I'm like,
18:46I've experienced all this pain, all of these things
18:49that I don't know how to make sense of,
18:50and I'm not getting any support from my community.
18:54Why do you live with the tension of those two things?
18:56And so in my twenties, I walked away from church
18:59just saying it's too painful.
19:01It's hard to follow a God where everyone who's believing
19:05in him did not protect me, did not stand up for me,
19:09did not see the victimization that was happening
19:12and provide love and support and advocacy.
19:15And so I just lived really a lot of recklessness
19:19that I just wanna know about.
19:20So I still believe in Jesus,
19:21but I don't know what it looks like for these two things
19:24to come back together. And so until my early 30s that I started
19:29going to therapy, I started to really dig in and do that deep
19:33work of healing. And honestly, healing prayer has been a game
19:38changer for me of having these experiences with Jesus where
19:41he's like, I never left you. I hate that those things happen to
19:44you. I love you. I delight in you that it's like the healing
19:48and the transformation started to take place. So now I'm in a
19:52much better place where I feel like I can reconcile the two, which is hard, right? Where bad things
19:57happen and hard things happen. And God is still good and he still loves us. And like he still
20:05is fighting Boris. And so it's taken a lot of work and it's been sort of this rollercoaster
20:11for Journey. You know, it would be alive for me to say it's just been this straightforward, easy thing,
20:16but I think it has given my faith a lot of depth and a lot of authenticity.
20:22I've wrestled, I've struggled, I've sinned, I've messed up, I've screamed at God,
20:28you know, to get to this point of like, I feel so much more connected to him and
20:34much more connected to Christian community and I want that and crave that.
20:38And I think it's been really validating and redemptive to see the work that he's done over
20:46for the last decade.
20:47Mm, mm, wow.
20:50And you have various credentials.
20:52You are an unregistered nurse.
20:54You have an MSN, a CPN, as I mentioned,
20:56you're a SANE nurse as well.
20:58How has those experiences in your journey
21:03contributed toward you pursuing
21:05the professional courses you pursued?
21:08Yeah, it's such a great question.
21:10So, you know, the trauma I experienced in college was,
21:13I was sexually assaulted repeatedly by a fellow college
21:18student who went to my church.
21:19And so the first time I had ever heard of a forensic nurse
21:23or a same nurse was after I disclosed an assault.
21:27And it was detectives talking to me
21:29and proud you can go see the nurse at the hospital
21:33who would collect evidence.
21:34And so of course, sort of my first introduction
21:38to all this was my own experience.
21:40And so as much as I talk about working
21:43with victims and practicing as a forensic nurse,
21:46I also know what it feels like to be in that position
21:48where you're having to walk through the criminal justice
21:50system and all of the nuances that have been there.
21:54And so of course that deeply impacted my desire to want to go
21:58into this field to say, can I sit with someone
22:02when they've experienced one of the most painful things
22:05they could ever experience and just hold space for them
22:07and validate and provide kindness and listen.
22:12You know, I can't fix it.
22:14It's not my job to fix it.
22:15I can't necessarily make it better,
22:17but I can hold space and say,
22:18I'm so sorry to happen to you.
22:20You know, this is not your fault.
22:22And I think that really matters.
22:25It absolutely does matter.
22:27And our audience here knows,
22:28and I told you before we came on the air
22:31that I spent a decade as a major felony prosecutor.
22:34So I have been there with victims
22:37who I've met unfortunately at the stage
22:40of where either a case has been filed
22:42and presented for grand jury indictment
22:43all the way up through trial.
22:46And I've also been there on the other side of it,
22:49post trial to see really how you're able to,
22:54how those who suffered victimization in these areas
22:58put their lives together thereafter.
23:01The healing effect of having closure,
23:03having an offender brought to justice
23:05and things of that nature.
23:08For those who are not aware,
23:10and they've made a return rate kit,
23:12but they have no clue what it is,
23:13what is a SANE nurse or a sexual assault nurse examiner?
23:18Yeah, I think most people are not aware
23:21of this type of nursing, which is a good thing
23:23because you probably, if you are aware,
23:25it's either you and I we've worked in this field
23:27or you have had to encounter a forensic nurse
23:30because we've been experienced on type of violence
23:33or a family member has.
23:35But essentially we are a very unique type of nurse
23:39where we're trying to collect evidence
23:41from a victim after they've experienced violence.
23:43So I was especially trying to take care of kids
23:47who had experienced sexual assault.
23:49So when a child would come into the hospital,
23:52the thought process behind it is within a certain timeframe,
23:55perpetrator is always gonna leave some type of DNA
23:59on a victim.
23:59So whether that's skin cells, hair cells, saliva, semen,
24:03there's likely going to be some evidence,
24:06you know, that if they were touching assaulting
24:09kind of whatever happened during the assault,
24:11there will be some type of DNA they left behind.
24:14So essentially I'm looking at a child's body,
24:17first and foremost, you know,
24:19kind of making sure they're healthy.
24:20Do they have medical injuries?
24:22Do they have sexually transmitted infections?
24:24Do they have things we need to address
24:25as a fallout from this assault?
24:27But also is there evidence we can collect?
24:29And so maybe we're taking their clothing,
24:31we might be swabbing certain areas of their bodies.
24:34Of course, because we're talking about a sexual assault,
24:36it's usually involving the genitals.
24:38So it's a, it's a can be an embarrassing, you know, kind of
24:42invasive feeling exam in the sense that you've got stranger who
24:46is looking at this very intimate part of you right after this
24:49trauma has happened.
24:50So it's, you know, I can understand it can be a really
24:54difficult thing to walk through for a victim.
24:58And then of course they can say no to any of it.
25:00I would never force, you know, anything that would make someone
25:02uncomfortable or feel re traumatized.
25:05But really we're looking at someone holistic, but you know,
25:07how are they doing mentally after a sexual assault?
25:10What resources do they need?
25:12How can we support them?
25:13How is their body medically doing physically
25:17and then evidence-wise?
25:18What can we collect?
25:19So we send all the evidence to law enforcement
25:22and then on the end of the hospital
25:24we're taking care of the medical piece of things.
25:28And you are often in that regard,
25:30you later in many cases,
25:32could very likely end up testifying at trial
25:34to what you discovered during a same examination.
25:38I've had the unfortunate experience
25:40of having to do that numerous times in my life and career.
25:44But you mentioned that you specifically were trained
25:47in practice in the area dealing with adolescent victims,
25:52child victims of sexual assault.
25:54And in the process of you doing that,
25:57I would say that the Lord giving you a discerning heart
26:00and the Spirit of God operating in you for discernment,
26:02you noticed something, a trend that kind of started to develop
26:06in your practice, would you just share a bit of that
26:09with the audience here?
26:11Yeah, so, I was always being trained as a forensic nurse.
26:16You know, we talked about different types of perpetrators,
26:18and I think in my head, naively, I had this stereotype of,
26:22oh, I'm taking care of kids who have experienced sexual assault,
26:26all the perpetrators are gonna be adults,
26:28and the stereotype of like, it's gonna be some creepy old man
26:31who lives in a basement and lures kids down there with kittens and candy or whatever,
26:36sort of the stereotype we have. But that was not the case. So we, where I was working at the time,
26:42we would write down the perpetrators' ages just to keep our database, to see what trends were happening.
26:48And that will be asked, conveyed to you by the victim themselves, right?
26:51Correct. Yes, or their families. They were too young to tell us.
26:54Okay.
26:54And of course, we didn't always know that information, but most of the time we did.
26:59And you were documented?
27:00Yes, we would document it. We put it in an electronic database. So I'm documenting case
27:07after case where the perpetrator is not a, you know, 60 year old, the perpetrator's 11.
27:12They're 12. They're 13 over and over. And I think that where the light bulbs really
27:18went off in my brain, I was maybe a few months off of orientation. I was taking care of a
27:23five year old and she had been sexually assaulted by her 12 year old brother. And their dad
27:28had walked in and seen it. So there was no question of what had happened. Of course,
27:34the parents were so distraught as they should be. You know, this is incredibly traumatic situation
27:40for everyone. And I remember the mom just just trying to verbally process like, how did this happen?
27:46Why would our 12-year-old do this? And she looked at me and said, you know, we have found violent
27:51pornography on his phone, you know, several times over the last few months, and he's really
27:56changed. He's isolating. He doesn't want to play soccer anymore. He doesn't want to do his homework.
28:01He just goes in his room and shuts the door. Do you think these things are related? And it was just
28:06like in my brain like thing, like of course here you have this kid who is showing signs of problematic
28:12pornies who's probably been watching this so frequently. Now he wants to act out the thing that
28:19his brain has seen over and over and over again. And he is on his sister because this is sort of a
28:25a quote unquote easy target, right?
28:27She's, she's there, she's younger.
28:29You can, you know, basically easy opportunity for him
28:32to act out the things that he's seeing
28:35and dad walks in and sees it.
28:37And so I think for me, I just thought,
28:40how often is pornography insulting these young kids
28:44that were seeing that are sexually salted in each other?
28:46And so what I found is it's almost all the time.
28:50I mean, at this point in time,
28:53there's multiple reasons why a child's gonna act
28:55with problematic sexual behavior, but in today's day and age, pornography is almost always
29:01playing a role in some way, shape, or form. Maybe this child has their own trauma history
29:07or attachment pain or dysfunctional family or whatever, maybe, and they're looking at
29:12pornography over and over and over again. And it's just like this perfect storm of,
29:17no, I'm going to act out the thing that I've spent months fantasizing about.
29:24I mentioned to you before we came on the air that it's jolted for most people to learn
29:31and because I didn't know this before I was a major felony prosecutor, but the phenomenon
29:38of sexually abused perpetrated by a stranger is extremely rare.
29:44The most often occurrence is that it is a known person, a trusted family member, and
29:52Like you mentioned, I had noticed, and this was,
29:56I came in AFAN 2016, so from 2006 to 2016,
30:02I noticed that the increasing phenomenon
30:05of exactly what you just described,
30:07children abusing other children.
30:09And you have kind of the powder keg often
30:12where you have early pornography exposure,
30:16sometimes combined with a child themselves being abused,
30:20and then they in turn become abusers.
30:23What is it, and we're gonna have a couple minutes left
30:26before about maybe a minute and a half
30:28before we come to this first break,
30:30what is it that you think parents and adults need to be aware
30:35of concerning childhood exposure to pornography?
30:38I know the younger, a kid is exposed to porn
30:41the more likely they will be a lifelong addict.
30:43And so the porn industry has an incentive
30:45to expose your kids to porn at an early age.
30:47They want customers for the rest of their life.
30:50So we know they're intentionally exposing kids to porn.
30:53Kids are too quick away from porn at any given time
30:56if they are online.
30:57And so any kid could be exposed to it at any time.
31:01This is, I think a lot of parents think, not my kid.
31:04Mm.
31:05Absolutely not.
31:06Like every parent is gonna be thinking,
31:08my kid is probably gonna say porn,
31:10how do we have conversations around it?
31:12If they have a screen,
31:14there's a high likelihood they will see it.
31:16And we live in such a time period.
31:18We just had a situation to where here at AFA,
31:22we had a two-year dialogue, frankly,
31:24with Apple concerning their default settings
31:29or their devices with the parental controls,
31:31that if the device knew the child was 13 or under,
31:36it would block certain pornography materials
31:38through eye messages, but 14 and up, man, no problem.
31:42And we were like, Apple, why don't you apply this
31:44to all miners?
31:46And it is honestly, they wouldn't say this,
31:49but panographers wanna try to hook,
31:53if you were like a drug dealer,
31:54you know, hook children early on,
31:56because as you mentioned, they want lifelong customers.
31:59But what we as a society may not recognize
32:01is that this SKU's development, excuse, excuse perspective,
32:07and it changes the way people view what we would call
32:09normal behavior.
32:11When we come back from this break,
32:13I want you to describe,
32:15I know there's an instance you described where young lady thought abusive behavior was just
32:21her abuser trying to be sexy.
32:22Let's talk about that when we come back on the break.
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33:45Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton.
33:47The third here, my guest is Heidi Olson, founder and president of Paradigm Shift Training and
33:52Consulting, who has a bevy of medical professional credentials, including the distinction of being
34:00a, having a decade of experience as a sexual assault nurse examiner.
34:05If you are a young person listening to the show, you probably should have done it already
34:09by now, but please let your parents know what we're talking about and let them give you guidance
34:14instruction as to whether or not this is an episode that you should tune in tune into.
34:19Before we went to the break, Heidi, I asked the question because I know you've had an experience
34:25with one of the victims of abuse who you were helping and the exposure, I would say the
34:34digital exposure and the experiences really distorted reality for this young lady to where
34:40she conflated abuse with just her
34:45abuse efforts to be more exciting.
34:47Would you speak to that for a moment, please?
34:50Yeah, I think what's important for adults to know is that the
34:55porn that kids are seeing online is not like Playboy from 30 or 40 years ago.
35:00And that wasn't acceptable. Let's be clear. That was
35:03right. Yes. Wicked in and of itself.
35:05But now it's, you know, they've gone from shooting layups to alley-up slam dunking with
35:12this despicable, insidious, frankly demonic stuff that the smut that they're putting out
35:17there.
35:18But go ahead, please go ahead.
35:19Yes.
35:20No, you're exactly right.
35:21And so they're watching sexual violence.
35:24The vast majority of pornography online is extremely violent and very, very degrading, especially
35:30towards women.
35:32So what girls are seeing when they're watching porn and thinking, oh, this is how I have sex.
35:37This is what's expected of me is they're watching women who are being strangled.
35:41They're watching women who are being spit on called names that multiple men are penetrating.
35:46And this is what our young tween teen girls are learning.
35:50This is how I should enjoy sex.
35:52And of course, for boys, it's this is how I have sex.
35:55I should be violent.
35:57Girls want this.
35:58So you can see how it's creating really confusing sexual landscape for them.
36:02So I took care of a 15 year old. She had a horrendous genital injury. It was so bad.
36:09She could barely sit down. I mean, it was awful. I won't go into graphic details, but an immense
36:15amount of violence was behind that. Her perpetrator was a 15 year old boy from school. And so as I was
36:22talking to her about this assault, you know, I was asking her, did he put his hands around your throat?
36:27of Diddy Strangle You, you know, because that's something I want to know with all my patients
36:31for medical reasons, but also to kind of talk through, you know, like, you know, are you
36:36okay? Or is this another charge, you know, like the criminal action, right? So I'm asking
36:42her, did he put his hands around her throat? And she was like, yeah, but I think he was
36:45trying to be sexy. And it just made me pause of like, Oh, you don't even realize that this
36:52is a part of the assault. Because in your head, this is for play or whatever it should
36:57be because you're seeing it in porn all the time.
37:00That strangulation is a normal sex act that everybody does,
37:04and it's not a big deal.
37:05It's how we turn each other on.
37:08Instead of strangulation can kill you.
37:10It can cause brain damage.
37:11It's scary.
37:12It's not supposed to be a part of this thing.
37:15And so I think to that point, I've seen so many instances
37:21where especially with girls, what porn is teaching them
37:24is self exploitation is completely normal and fine.
37:29When you turn 18, you should be the porn star.
37:32You should go and only fans and you should create porn
37:35because you're watching it all the time.
37:38It's normal.
37:39There's all these influencers who do it.
37:41And like this is how you can make millions of dollars.
37:44And so I would say that's the trend of
37:46not only is violence normal, selling your body
37:49is totally normal and acceptable as well.
37:53And I know for many of you hearing this, this is jolting,
37:56because this is not the world that you live in.
38:01But I'm telling you we need to understand
38:04that this is the world that many of our young people
38:06are living in.
38:08And the egregiousness of the violence,
38:14and of the abuse and the normalization of it
38:20is one aspect of the reality.
38:21Can you envision that these people are the ones who will become the lawyers and doctors
38:28and judges and how having this lack of, I started off the scripture in 1 Peter 4, that
38:38we, especially as the body of Christ, that we should not have an acceptance capacity for
38:44things that the Bible says should not be tolerated.
38:47Like youthfulness does not have to be synonymous
38:51with the types of things that we experience
38:56prevalently, Paul told Timothy that you can be
38:58an example to the believer in purity, in purity.
39:04And so it's vitally important that we understand
39:08that this is the type of stuff that we're confronting.
39:11Some people have this mindset that where it is exclusively
39:15a young males who are consumer pornography,
39:17but the data shows that increasing amounts
39:20females, especially younger females, are consuming pornography at high rates similar to the young
39:27boys. Is that an accurate description and depiction of the data that you've come across?
39:33Yes, it is. Absolutely. And I think that a huge piece of it is because pornography is so
39:41prevalent and so normalized with kids today that there isn't this, I think for other generations,
39:48there was this shame or we know we're not supposed to look at it. I feel like those layers are just
39:54going away with younger generations where it's like everyone does it, everyone talks about it.
39:59Everyone's showing it to each other. It feels like they think it's not a big deal. And it becomes
40:05sort of this joke of like we all look at it, we all know these trends. This is how we learn about sex.
40:10And I will even say I've talked to kids who are growing up in conservative Christian homes
40:16And I will send things like the Bob House is a house full of girls. They all live in Florida together. They're young like 19 to 24.
40:25The what house? I don't think I heard you clearly. The what house?
40:29The OP. Oh, Bob House. Okay.
40:30They all live together in this house. They all create pornography on only fans.
40:37Oh, wow. And on social media. So of course, they can't show their explicit porn on social media, but they have,
40:44is basically where they market themselves.
40:46You know, on TikTok and Instagram,
40:47basically saying, look at us flying on private jets,
40:50and we make millions of dollars,
40:52and our life is so glamorous.
40:54These girls have a combined 90 million followers
40:59on social media.
41:01And a lot of them are teenagers.
41:02So I've asked kids growing up in their concerned
41:05Christian homes, do you know what the bot houses
41:08and they all have said yes,
41:10because it's so normal, right?
41:13within their culture and their generation of like, we joke about it, we talk about it, we use that
41:17term with each other, we call each other, you know, you're a Bob, it's a porn term. And so I think
41:23that parents don't even realize like how ingrained all things pornography are becoming with this
41:28generation. You know, I tend to study and do a lot of research, I'd never heard of that,
41:34to you just mentioned it. I never heard of the Bob House until you just said that.
41:41Wow. It's heartbreaking for me to consider because I'm thinking about cases that I've handled
41:50and I'm thinking about people that I've encountered and listening to what you're sharing.
41:55It is a full on, you want to talk about a pandemic, it's a full-on pandemic and you know often say
42:02and say what goes on in your house is far more important
42:05than what goes on in the White House.
42:06Guys, we need to be actively engaged in our homes.
42:10There's so many circumstances where you can have a child
42:13who grows up, you know, as you mentioned,
42:14a Christian conservative family,
42:16and they don't access it at home, but they get to school.
42:19And guess what the peers are showing up?
42:20As cool, on the buses, on the way to, you know?
42:24And so what are some things that you would say
42:28that parents need to do proactively
42:32to try to protect our children from these types
42:35of insidious influences.
42:37Yeah, that is such a great question.
42:40I know all of this goes incredibly overwhelming
42:44and sometimes hopeless,
42:47so I want to instill hope for parents
42:49that just having simple conversations
42:52can make all the difference in the world.
42:54I think for my generation and probably generations before me,
42:59parents did not really talk to us about sex.
43:01Like you maybe got one very awkward conversation
43:04and that was it, or it was just like, don't do it.
43:07And it was it, but there wasn't this actual like,
43:11here are all the things you need to know
43:13and it's an open door and I want to have healthy dialogue
43:15and I want you to really understand God's intent behind this.
43:19For many of my peers, that's not their experience.
43:23And so I think the same thing is happening with form
43:25where we're like, just don't look at it.
43:27Maybe that's the conversation that is being had,
43:29but it's not, okay, you're probably gonna see it.
43:32Let's talk about it.
43:34Please come talk to me if you see it.
43:35I will not be mad at you.
43:37We don't need to bring shame into this.
43:39It's why is this not good for our hearts and our brains?
43:43And you deserve better than to be pulled
43:45into this world of pornography.
43:47And I think really having to short little conversations
43:54all the time about it where there's safety
43:56being created for kids,
43:58that's gonna create that resilience where,
44:00and maybe someone at school showed me something,
44:02when I walked away, and then I went home and told mom and dad,
44:05hey, this person showed me this thing, can we process it?
44:07You know, they're not the best case scenario,
44:09and I believe that can happen if we can start
44:11to have those conversations.
44:13But I think when there's this sort of feeling of fear behind it,
44:16of like, don't look at it, and if you do your horrible person,
44:19you know, that's the message of getting sent.
44:21Well, of course the kids never gonna say anything,
44:23and they're gonna try and navigate it alone,
44:26which is really challenging.
44:27When you're eight years old and you just watch
44:29someone be sexually assaulted on a screen.
44:31So I think those little touch points just over and over and creating safety is a really big deal.
44:39Now you made a transition professionally from your nursing practice into now leading
44:48paradigm shift training and consulting.
44:50What is paradigm shift?
44:53Yeah, so I created a business about four years ago and it was really out of this need of seeing the amount of
45:02patients we were encountering who were experiencing human trafficking, exploitation,
45:07being groomed online, experiencing problematic porn use.
45:11I mean, all the things that we're talking about,
45:13often all these things just go hand in hand in hand.
45:16And that healthcare workers have an incredible opportunity to have conversations
45:20to intervene to instill healthy education to patients about pornography
45:28and all these different things.
45:29We can do that as healthcare workers.
45:30And it doesn't really exist in most hospitals.
45:34No one's talking about this.
45:35No one's connecting the dots.
45:37And so I think for me, I saw what an amazing difference
45:39it made within the program that I was leading.
45:41And I wanted to step out and start to do that
45:43with other healthcare workers.
45:44So I started my business four years ago,
45:49and I have been getting to teach internationally,
45:52actually, in all over the United States.
45:54And I've had some really incredible opportunities
45:57from presenting at the United Nations to,
45:59I wrote in a Mika's brief for the US Supreme Court
46:04that was submitted last year.
46:05And so I've gotten to do incredible things around,
46:08you know, raising awareness on how pornography is harming kids.
46:13You know, I often reflect on here on the show
46:17that the family is the first institution
46:19that got established, the first human institution,
46:22the first command that God gave to mankind
46:24was delivered within the familial context.
46:27And the family is the first institution
46:28with a marriage at the center,
46:30because the family is central to God's plan
46:33for establishing his kingdom multi-generationally
46:35in the hearts and minds of people.
46:37I don't think there is an appropriate understanding
46:40of just how significant the family is,
46:45and specifically the parent-child relationship is to God.
46:49And the church's purpose based on Ephesians 4
46:53is to equip the saints for the works of ministry.
46:55Sometimes we think what God requires in ministry
46:57that it has to be the professional passion,
46:59all it is, but the reality is that the saints of God are called to do the work of God and
47:05that families need to be empowered to take the initiative and the leadership in shaping
47:11the hearts and minds of our own children.
47:14And one of the major areas that this is happening is with the demonic perversion of human sexuality
47:22and identity. And what we need to recognize is that this is not merely the product of modernity.
47:30This is not merely the feature of technological innovation that frankly, there is a demonic
47:36attack to destroy the kingdom of God. That's what Satan's in. And that's what his objective
47:42is. We know he won't prevail, but that's what he's trying to do. But he's seeking to do
47:46you so by destroying children in perverting their formation
47:51and development.
47:52Do you think that is an accurate assessment based
47:54on your experience and interactions?
47:57Absolutely.
47:58Yes, it absolutely is.
48:00I mean, even if you talk to adults in their 30s, 40s, 50s,
48:04there are so many adults who struggle with porn addiction.
48:07And to see the ways that it has destroyed their marriages,
48:10their lives, their intimacy, their ability
48:14to move through the world in healthy ways.
48:16And to just, that's just being astronomically
48:20perpetuated on our kids.
48:23These are people who grew up maybe with like we said,
48:25playboy that I've still developed addictions over time.
48:28Imagine being a seven, eight year old
48:30who was exposed to hardcore porn
48:32where it's an endless amount.
48:34You can never watch all the porn that exists in the world.
48:36There's so much content to a developing brain.
48:40It feels systematic, it feels evil,
48:42If it's very targeted, I absolutely believe there's a demonic component to all of this.
48:48Hi, thank you so much for joining me on the program today.
48:51We're going to need to continue this conversation.
48:53I hadn't mentioned this yet, but there will be an impact series episode produced by American
48:58Family Studios that features Heidi Olson and her work.
49:02We'll talk more about that.
49:04It'll be available coming soon.
49:08The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American
49:13Family Association or American Family Radio.

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