May 27, 2026 · 50:42

Guest Host, Bishop E.W. Jackson, is joined by Bunni Pounds, Founder & President of Christians Engaged

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Guest Host, Bishop E.W. Jackson, is joined by Bunni Pounds, Founder & President of Christians Engaged - HEAV Conference - Richmond, VA - 2026 CHAP Convention - Elizabethtown, PA | 1-800-326-4543 ext. 345 To donate call: 877-616-2396

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0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
0:03It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
0:07This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
0:11It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite.
0:15Delivering people out of the bondage of mainstream media.
0:18And the philosophies of this world.
0:20God has called you and me to be His ambassador.
0:24Even in this dark moment.
0:26Let's not miss our moment.
0:28and now the Hamilton Corner.
0:33Welcome everybody to another edition of the Hamilton Corner
0:37and I'm guest hosting tonight for Abraham Hamilton
0:40the third ambition me W. Jackson's my pleasure
0:44to sit in the seat and talk to you tonight.
0:47And I do want to hear from you before the evening is over
0:49but we have a very special program plan.
0:52I want to talk to you about a couple of things
0:54and then I'm going to have as my guest
0:55in the second segment, Bunny Pounds.
0:57I'm sure all of you have heard of America,
0:59reads the Bible, well, Bunny Pounds is the visionary behind that, which had people from
1:06all over the nation, including the President of the United States reading the Bible.
1:13So we're going to talk a little bit about that, about how that vision came about, and
1:18that's in keeping with the theme for the program today, which is the spiritual condition of
1:22America because I think what Bunny did was absolutely tremendous and very much needed.
1:31You know we need prayer but you know we also need the Word of God because without the Word
1:37of God we don't even know how to pray.
1:40So we need the Word of God.
1:42The Bible says in Hebrews chapter 4 the Word is living and powerful and sharper than a two
1:48to its sword, cutting to the dividing of soul and spirit of joints and mow.
1:53It is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart, and there is nothing hidden from
1:58his sight for all things are naked and open to the eyes of him to whom we must give account."
2:08So folks, we need the word.
2:11And that's exactly what her program did.
2:14It brought the word to America again.
2:16Can't stop there, obviously.
2:17I've got to stay in the word.
2:19But look, before I get into a couple of issues I want to raise today, I want to remind you
2:24all, I've got something I'm starting to call the truth tour.
2:29Untaught facts about American history, things about American history that people were probably
2:34never thought.
2:35In some cases, some may have been taught it, but most Americans have never been taught
2:39it because what we've been taught primarily is a polemic against America emanating from
2:45the infamous Howard Zinn's book of people's history of the United States, which is an abomination.
2:53That thing is nothing but it is a compilation of lies.
2:58It is a narrative that is intended to make people hate America.
3:03And sadly, most of our youth have been exposed to that version of American history.
3:09Well, the true version of American history is what I'm going to be talking about.
3:13And I want you all to know that my first foray into this is going to be at Joy Church in
3:22Matthews, North Carolina.
3:24Let me see if I can get this thing.
3:27Here we go.
3:29Matthews, North Carolina.
3:30And that's at 11516 Idlewild Road.
3:34For those of you in North Carolina, that's 11516 Idlewild Road.
3:43Matthews, North Carolina on Friday, June 19th at 7 p.m. So just come on by. There's no ticket
3:53price, no cost involved. Just come on by and I will be teaching on the truth about American
4:02history, the truth tour. That's going to be my, that will actually be my second. I'm doing,
4:10my first is going to be a private event held at Nutramax Company, which is in South Carolina,
4:16wonderful company that's sponsoring me to come down and talk about this. And then I'm going to be
4:20going over to North Carolina to talk about it there. And then I'm going to be in in Vicksburg,
4:24Mississippi. Let's see, I think a little later in June, I need to have that date so that I can tell
4:29those of you who are listening to me exactly when I'm going to be there. So if I can find that
4:35before the program is over, I'll share that with you. Look, here's what I want to talk about though
4:39today. You know, we always say we are in a spiritual battle, right? All of us
4:47agree with that. This is, this gets fought out on the political arena, in the
4:53political arena, but it is really a spiritual battle. And, and this is why
5:01what Buddy Pound did was so important and so powerful because without the word
5:07of God, we don't have any orientation. You know, it's like our, it's our true
5:11north. And without that, we people just kind of float and bounce from pillar to
5:17post all over the place. We've got two major forces working. Well, in fact, I'd
5:22dare say three major forces working right now to undermine our country. In fact, you
5:27know what you could even say for. In fact, I think I will say for one, we've got the
5:34The leftists, the Marxists, the socialists, Zoron Mamdani, and this guy, Hassan Piker,
5:49who is just, he is just right out of the devil's playbook.
6:00And of course, Mamdani's, and he joined at the hip philosophically because they're both
6:05But you've got them, you've got the Marxists and socialists and leftists and that's a whole
6:13slew of them.
6:14You've got AOC, you've got Bernie Sanders, you've got Jasmine Crockett and On and On and
6:21On and On it goes.
6:23People whose names frankly are not even really worth saying but nevertheless, you know who
6:28they are.
6:30The whole Democrat party is filled with them at this point.
6:34We need to just come to grips with the fact there's no such thing as a democratic moderate,
6:39a democrat moderate.
6:40That doesn't exist.
6:41Look at Tallarico down in Texas.
6:43He's what they offered up to the people of Texas and they're calling him a moderate.
6:48And he believes, for example, that Mary could have had an abortion.
6:52That would have been fine with God because he gave her the choice.
6:55I mean, he believes God is non-binary, you know, that there's at least six genders.
7:05I mean, I guess we should be grateful.
7:06He didn't name 106.
7:10This guy is just, I mean, he's crazy.
7:14He just really is that crazy.
7:20But that's where the Democrat party is now.
7:22But so we got the Marxists and the socialists and the leftists.
7:26But then folks, we've got another thing
7:27that we don't talk very much about.
7:30And that is Islam, Islamism, Sharia law.
7:36law, because those of you listening to be in Texas right now, you all know this whole
7:41Plano, Texas battle over this gigantic thing that the Muslim organization wanted to build.
7:49In fact, I believe that may have contributed to John Cornyn's ignominious defeat, because
7:55he supported this thing.
7:57He basically backed some of the funding that was intended to build it.
8:01Now why in the world any American patriot, anybody calls himself a patriot, would be
8:06supporting the building of a major Islamic complex in their
8:10community is beyond me. I do not know. I will say this. Sharia
8:16law is incompatible with the Constitution of the United
8:19States and is incompatible with American culture. Period. They've
8:25got the Sharia law enclaves in Europe, in England, particularly
8:29where they don't want cops coming in, they don't want to, they're
8:32governing these places by Sharia law. We're not having that
8:35in our country. We're not having it. If you don't want to abide by our Constitution,
8:41go live in a Sharia law governed country. Don't bring it here. But this stuff is really
8:49spreading. The fact that they've set up an enclave in Texas ought to give us pause. And
8:58the fact that we've got a New York mayor who is a Muslim and we've got a Virginia lieutenant
9:04governor who is a Muslim and we had 46 Muslims elected to public office and of course they all left us.
9:14All of that ought to give us pause. These people have a right to run, people have a right to vote
9:20for them, but it's not good for our country. And then the third thing, and I'm going to save
9:29what I consider to be probably the right thing. Now the greatest
9:35single threat to our country and it goes along with the first, the first I said of these
9:39These Marxists and these leftists and the second is Islamists.
9:42And then the third of these globalists.
9:44And there's overlap between the leftists and the globalists.
9:47But these are people who just don't like American sovereignty.
9:50And they think that the best thing that could happen
9:52is we submit ourselves to the UN or some other global entity
9:56that will tell us what to do and what they can,
9:59how to speak and all that.
10:01No thank you.
10:03America first, American sovereignty.
10:08yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
10:13And then last, but certainly not least,
10:15we've got common, it's China breathing down our necks,
10:17infiltrating our country.
10:20We need a national security audit.
10:22Between these four factors, we need a national security audit
10:26to find out just to what degree we have been infiltrated
10:29and in what institutions and entities
10:32and what is the threat to our national security as a result.
10:36Because between China buying up meat plants and farms
10:41and properties next to our sensitive national security
10:46installations and Sharia law invading our country,
10:50coming in through all these refugees
10:52and bringing in a kind of foreign anti-American mindset.
10:57That's where a lot of this anti-Semitism is coming from.
11:01It's coming from these Islamists who are coming here
11:03and getting a bunch of young people to buy into this
11:05nonsense of the Israels in apartheid country
11:08and the Palestinian people are the oppressed and all that.
11:11And they're being occupied.
11:13Give me a break.
11:14I read the Bible.
11:17It tells a very different story.
11:19And what the Bible says is true.
11:20And what these other people are saying is a lie.
11:24You know, if you are a Zionist, apparently that makes you evil.
11:27Well, I'm not Jewish, but I'm a Zionist because I believe that that land was given to the children
11:31of Israel by Almighty God.
11:35And he hadn't taken it away.
11:38He dispersed them from it, but now they've been regathered to it.
11:43So between them and the globalists, you know, the world economic forum and all these crazy
11:50people who think they know best, these elites who think they know best, and only the world
11:54would get to skip together.
11:56We don't need American sovereignty.
11:58Thank God for American sovereignty.
11:59The world would be a complete wasteland if it weren't for the United States of America in
12:08every way, economically and otherwise.
12:11And then last Xi Jinping in communist China, the communist Chinese, particularly not the
12:19people of China because a lot of them are not communist, a lot of them are Christians and
12:23have other ideas, but of course they can't say that in communist China because that'll
12:27get you locked up or killed.
12:32But between birthright citizenship and Confucius institutes and all these other ways in which
12:39they found to infiltrate our country, we are beset. We really are. And folks, you may not
12:47feel it right now, but the question is what's going to feel like if this continues unabated
12:52and unchecked in 10 years, in 20 years? I'll tell you what it feels like. It feels like
12:57a country that's been completely undermined from within. And this is all a spiritual battle.
13:03I mean, think about the forces that are at work.
13:07Islamist, idolaters, communists, atheists,
13:13globalists, idolaters as well,
13:16because they think that they're gonna set up
13:18to somehow one world government,
13:19and everybody's gonna be great
13:21because they're gonna be in charge.
13:24They'll be God, thank you very much.
13:29And of course, you know,
13:32I mean, between Islamism and communism
13:35Marxism and socialism and globalism.
13:38I mean, we have the isms, don't we?
13:44We really do.
13:45And folks, by the name of Jesus,
13:51we're gonna have to rid ourselves of this mess.
13:53And it's gonna take prayer and the word of God to do it.
13:57Yeah, we have to be engaged.
13:58Yes, we have to vote.
13:59Yes, we have to be active.
14:01But without the word of God and prayer,
14:06We're we're we're impotent because that's where the power is.
14:14The power is in our connection with Almighty God, not in our connection to the Republican
14:19party or the Democrat party, but in our connection to Almighty God.
14:24Bishop E. W. Jackson in for Abraham Hamilton III here on the Hamilton Corner, stand by
14:29folks.
14:30We'll be back in a moment with Bunny Pound, a discipleship minute with Joseph Parker, not
15:12being alert, making unwise decisions, moving without a sense of urgency, any and all of
15:17these actions in wartime can literally cause someone to get killed.
15:22Psalm 91 is a unique weapon in scripture that addresses many of the perils in life.
15:28Using this weapon daily helps us to be prepared for many of the attacks the devil may utilize
15:33consistently against us.
15:36encouragement to you is to pray Psalm 91 every single day over yourself and over
15:42your family because remember in the dangerous crazy world we live in no one
15:46can protect you like the Lord can Lord. Annoying is a fresh with a spirit of grace
15:50and mercy that would empower us to be warrior-minded believers who are absolutely
15:56every day praying Psalm 91 as well as putting other weapons to work
16:00fruitfully and wisely.
16:02In Jesus' name we do pray.
16:04Amen.
16:05Shiting light into the darkness,
16:15this is the Hamilton Corner,
16:16an American family radio.
16:20And this is Bishop E. W. Jackson,
16:22and for Abraham Hamilton the third,
16:24great to be with you.
16:25Folks, I started the program out talking about
16:29the spiritual battle that we are in,
16:32and some of the forces coming against us,
16:34Marxism, Islamism, globalism,
16:36communist China, Iran. And now I want to talk to someone who has really stepped up and brought
16:45the spiritual battle to its fundamental, its foundation, which is the word of God. And I'm talking about
16:52none other than Bunny Pound. Bunny Pound is the visionary who led, pioneered, organized a
17:00of this gargantuan effort called America Reads the Bible.
17:05Bunny, welcome to the Hamilton Corner here
17:07on American Family Radio.
17:10Well, it's great to be with you Bishop Jackson as always.
17:13And it is just a blessing to just give American people hope
17:19that God is moving in our day.
17:20It really is an amazing moment that we live in.
17:23Well, look, I just mentioned all of these forces
17:25that are still working against us.
17:27And we see it in the news every single day.
17:30And we know that it is a spiritual battle.
17:33But very often it's difficult to figure out,
17:35how do we put that to work?
17:37I mean, we can pray individually,
17:38we can certainly ask God to help us and so forth.
17:42But you came up with a very unique idea.
17:47And that is America reads the Bible.
17:51Tell us how did that come about?
17:54And then what did you do to put all of that in place
17:58to have people reading the Bible from one end
18:01to the literally from the beginning to the end.
18:03That's how I got saved by the way,
18:04reading the Bible from cover to cover.
18:06But tell us how that unfolded to get America reading the Bible.
18:10Yeah, two years ago I was in the Museum of the Bible
18:13with a whole bunch of young people we take to Washington DC.
18:17And I had this encounter with the Lord about Ezra
18:20and I thought we need an Ezra moment in our nation.
18:22We need to realize who we are as a people in our nation,
18:27that's specifically the body of Christ.
18:28We've, you know, we've let a lot of things
18:32pull on our affections, even programs in our church,
18:35but we're not like focused on actually reading the Bible,
18:38praying and worshiping the Lord.
18:41So I had this thought, wouldn't it be awesome
18:43if our national leaders from all spheres of influence,
18:46all demographics and denominations would humble themselves
18:49and say we need the Bible every day to make it,
18:51and we're gonna read the Bible in front of the American
18:53people for our 250th birthday of the country. And we did that April 18 through 25. It took
19:0018 months approximately 14 months of my life working 80 hours a week with our team to pull
19:07this off. 122 ministries partnered with us, almost 500 readers, six cabinet members, six
19:15governors, 20 members of Congress, the President of the United States reading uninterrupted
19:21scripture for the first time in American history, two and a half minutes of uninterrupted scripture,
19:26as he read almost the whole chapter of second Chronicles chapter seven. And then we had 5000
19:34media hits, E. W. In one week, over 3 million streams on PureFlicks, and it's now still one of
19:42the top programs on PureFlicks. People are streaming at nonstop in their living rooms with their
19:48families. It was such an amazing moment to shepherd. I'll never forget it. And we can talk about more
19:58about how I believe it's impacted the country. But I'll just say what an honor, what an honor to see
20:05it come to pass and see God move in this way. Well, thank you for doing it because I really believe
20:11it's exactly what the country needs. I once asked Andrew Wameck who is a mutual friend of ours, I asked
20:18I said, what do you think it'll take to bring an awakening to our country?
20:22God later gave him a word that we are in an awakening right now.
20:26But he said, I expected him to talk about prayer, but he said, it's going to be the word of God.
20:32He says, it's going to be the word of God because the word of God is filled with power.
20:36And I often say, you don't even know how to pray if you're not reading and studying and
20:42by being meditating in the word of God because it teaches you how to access God and
20:48and his will and his plan and purpose for our lives.
20:50So it was a wonderful thing.
20:52And I'm so glad to hear that it's ongoing,
20:55that it's continuing, because I really believe
20:59that that's part of this awakening
21:01that is happening in our country right now,
21:03because like you said, it's never been done before,
21:05and we've never had the President of the United States
21:07reading the Bible before to the entire nation.
21:10So praise God for that.
21:12And praise God for you that you listen to the Lord
21:15and went ahead and launched this.
21:18Now, you've got a new book out,
21:20and it sounds to me like the book in some sense
21:23is kind of inspired by this experience of reading the Bible.
21:28Actually, yeah, reading the Bible came from this book
21:31when I had this encounter with the Lord about Ezra.
21:34I just finished the first draft of it
21:36and was looking for a new publisher
21:38and Whittaker House decided they wanted to publish it.
21:41But it is really the leadership qualities of Nehemiah
21:46have inspired my life for over 15 years, E.W.,
21:49I used to lead Bible studies.
21:51I used to be a congressional staffer.
21:53I ran campaigns for 16 years for members of Congress.
21:56Most people know that.
21:58But out of that, I would teach Bible studies
22:00to current staffers, state representative staffers,
22:03congressional staffers, even members of Congress.
22:05And I taught through the book of Nehemiah.
22:07And this book is literally a chronological study of the book.
22:12It's set about 16 chapters, but each chapter covers a characteristic of his leadership that I believe will impact every pastor, every civic leader, every politician that reads it, every business leader.
22:25But you can literally train your staff and leaders how to be amazing leaders through this amazing character study of Nehemiah.
22:32Not only was he a man who galvanized and mobilized people like we know to rebuild the walls of a nation in 52 days
22:40Which is
22:41Unhuman right any of us would go wow how in the world did you do that?
22:46But he went through massive warfare. He had to stay on the wall in the midst of suffering and persecution
22:52He had massive favor massive blessings
22:56He just exemplified was very strategic full of wisdom
23:00And so I actually go through 16 modern Americans also friends of mine like Kelly Shackelford and Scott Turner
23:09our head secretary and Patricia Heaton from Everybody Loves Raymond and different people from different spheres of influence
23:15that exemplify these characteristics today and our culture today to inspire people that they can be leaders like
23:23me and Maya and inspire the country. And we have to have leaders. We have such a leadership
23:30crisis in our country. We need people that have a biblical worldview to step up and lead.
23:35Please lead now.
23:36Hey, man. Well, look, let me ask you this. Since you've talked about leading one of the
23:41complaints I often hear as I travel around the country is that people say many pastors,
23:47churches simply won't step up.
23:50Either they are afraid of the government punishing them
23:54because they're involved in quote unquote politics
23:57or they're afraid that their members won't like it.
24:00If they take a stand based on the word of God,
24:04well, you stepped out there and I'm sure you faced
24:08all kinds of resistance and all kinds of obstacles.
24:10You can't do anything great without facing that.
24:13What would you say to those people who are still kind of,
24:15Well, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't,
24:18I'm not sure I wanted to get involved like that.
24:21Well, it's one of the reasons we created Christians engaged
24:24our ministry about seven years ago
24:26is we wanted to create a vehicle for pastors
24:29that are awakening.
24:30They are afraid though, they're afraid of,
24:33you know, different things in their mind
24:34related to the Johnson amendment and all this stuff,
24:37but really they're worried about losing one
24:39tithing member, let's be frank.
24:40That's really what they're worried about.
24:42But we wanted to create an apparatus
24:44where they could teach people about prayer, voting,
24:46and engagement without splitting their church.
24:49And they can be bold enough to register voters
24:52and to just do the stuff.
24:54And so anybody listening to us can go to our website
24:57at christiansengaged.org and they can take so many resources
25:01that we have for pastors to their local pastor.
25:05They can be an area leader with us.
25:07They can help us mobilize people.
25:09But we track every election in the country.
25:11we push over a million people out to vote now to every election.
25:15And we teach them about prayer, voting and engagement.
25:18It's a very safe and easy way for people to do this work in a
25:23nonpartisan way that can connect their biblical values with basic
25:27civics. So we do every day.
25:30And you're involved, aren't you?
25:32You correct me if I'm wrong, but you're connected with the
25:36network of policy councils across the country.
25:39Or at some point you did some work with them?
25:42Yeah, no, we are the Church and Civic Engagement Ministry of Family Policy Alliance, and we
25:47work with our amazing family policy councils around the country.
25:51We're the beginning step one, to get every Christian praying, voting, engaging, and then
25:56we love to push people to actually working on advocacy, running for campaigns, mobilizing
26:02Christians, and working with our amazing network across the country.
26:06What is the biggest obstacle that you face, Bunny, and getting people engaged?
26:14What's the biggest hurdle?
26:16There's a couple things I hear as you hear.
26:20Just plain apathy.
26:21It's not going to make a difference.
26:22The unbelief that hits our heart that, oh well, everybody's the same.
26:27All these politicians are evil or they're mud slinging or none of this is going to matter.
26:33of the basic unbelief of that, not realizing that we have been created by God to do something,
26:40right? To create and to steward our nation, steward our earth well. But we also hear just
26:52the idea that I don't even know how to say it. It's like, my mind's going blank because
27:02there's so many frustrations I have related to this.
27:04Yeah, I'm sure.
27:06But so many people just think they can't make a difference.
27:10They really think they can't make a difference.
27:13And then the overall busyness of life, the busyness of life, tries to steal our affections
27:19from what's most important.
27:21And so when we think Proverbs 29-2 talks about when the Righteouser and Authority that
27:25people rejoice when the wicked man rules the people grown. We don't actually think that
27:34that's true. And so we keep busy with everything else. And then we're not really loving our
27:40neighbors well by electing righteous leaders. And that's a huge problem for our country.
27:45And we have to shift that part of reading the Bible over our country was reading the
27:49Bible because we have to have a biblical worldview. We have to be the leaders that
27:53God's a called us to be and then we have to elect righteous leaders to govern well, to
27:59protect our republic for the next 250 years.
28:02We have to remain strong.
28:04It's important for our country and it's important for the world that America remains strong and
28:08active and full of faith.
28:10Yeah, buddy, if I can and you have time, I want to try to get a couple phone calls in.
28:16People may want to talk to you, ask you questions.
28:18I'm sure they're inspired by you.
28:20That's the numbers, 888-589-8840.
28:23That's 888-589-8840.
28:26If you'd like to ask a question of Bunny Pound,
28:29or you'd like to make a comment, or just encourage her,
28:32this is the woman, the visionary,
28:34behind America reads the Bible.
28:36That's 888-589-8840.
28:39We'll take those calls as soon as they begin to come in,
28:42and if she can stay over a little bit
28:43to take some additional ones after the break, we'll do that.
28:47Bunny, talk to us a little bit about legacy,
28:51because frankly, I look at you and I am so encouraged,
28:56because of course I've been at this a lot longer than you have.
29:00I remember the first battle I was engaged in
29:03in addition to the whole pro-life issue
29:06was the first one of the earliest so-called gay rights bills
29:10that were coming down the pike up in Massachusetts.
29:13And I heard from pastors a lot, oh, I'm busy.
29:15I'm too busy pastoring.
29:17This is no big deal.
29:18This is not going anywhere.
29:20I mean, they were just convinced that it didn't matter
29:22in the end because, you know, God would take care of it
29:25and nothing would happen.
29:27And there are those people who do kind of say,
29:30well, you know, we already know Jesus has won the battle.
29:32It's already over and so forth.
29:35And we don't really need to get involved in all of that
29:37because, you know, the rapture's coming.
29:41So I wanna thank you as a younger person
29:44for being out there and continuing to pioneer.
29:49I think about the fact tomorrow,
29:50I'll be going to the funeral of James Robinson
29:53who has passed on, gone home to be with the Lord.
29:56And I think about how much he was concerned
30:01about legacy, about making sure that there was a new generation
30:04to pick up the gauntlet and continue to run.
30:08And frankly, your part of that new generation of leaders,
30:13And I hope that you and I hope others
30:16In my age group and beyond appreciate how God is using you. Are you getting encouragement from some of the elders in the body of Christ?
30:26Well, actually that's where we first met
30:28I don't know if you remember it was at James's studio when he had a closed-door meeting of those of us that were changing the country
30:35and I was the only woman out of 40 men in the room and
30:38And anyway, James has been such a spiritual father to me.
30:43I worked for him when I was 18, 19, and 20.
30:47We wouldn't be here.
30:48Christians engaged would not have been sustained
30:50in the early years without his support
30:52and believing in this mission of what we're doing.
30:56And I will be there honoring his legacy.
31:00But I think it comes down to this question for all of us,
31:03EW, you know, I'm too young, but I have three grandbabies.
31:08I don't look that old.
31:10But we, you know, I wanna be on the front porch
31:13of my East Texas home one day, bass fishing,
31:16telling my children and my grandchildren
31:19that I was in the fight,
31:20that I didn't let our republic die,
31:23that I didn't let the church go complacent,
31:27that I was there as a revivalist
31:29to awaken the church in an important moment, right?
31:32That I was fighting for the lives of the unborn,
31:35and I was doing everything in my power
31:38to stop the gates of hell from overtaking our nation.
31:41I think we all have to live with these decisions
31:45and we have to go, what am I gonna be saying
31:48when I'm 80, 85, 100 to the next generation?
31:53Was I in the fight?
31:54Did I just sit there binge watching Netflix all day long?
31:58How did I use the time, the precious time that we have?
32:01You know, when I ran for Congress in 2018,
32:04I used to tell my staff during that season,
32:07I have the same 24 hours,
32:09you have the same 24 hours our opponents have.
32:12How are we using that 24 hours?
32:14We'll define our destiny and define this race.
32:18I think we all have to say, look at our lives
32:21and James lived well.
32:23My gosh.
32:24Oh, man.
32:24What an amazing legacy he had.
32:26And I'm so thankful that he was in my life.
32:28We've got to take a quick break,
32:30Bunny, thank you for staying on folks.
32:32will be taking your calls when we come back just a moment.
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34:08Rededicating America to God.
34:11This is David Wheaton, host of The Christian World View.
34:15This year we commemorate 250 years as a nation.
34:18Early Americans in our history were overtly Christian,
34:22but we have strayed far from that today.
34:24Recently an event called Rededicate 250
34:27was held in Washington that invited, quote,
34:30all Americans to come together in prayer and worship
34:33ahead of the nation's 250th birthday.
34:36Certainly good intentions, but let's also realize
34:39that a nation is transformed when more people repent
34:42and believe in Jesus Christ.
34:44That will lead to what the psalmist said,
34:46blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.
34:50Here in most recent program on Rededicate 250,
34:53with guest Todd Freel at TheChristianWorldView.org,
34:57and then join us this weekend for another topic
34:59that will sharpen your worldview.
35:00Listen to the Christian worldview with David Wheaton,
35:03Saturday mornings at 8th Central on American Family Radio.
35:12The Hamilton Quarter Podcast and One-Minute Commentaries
35:15are available at AFR.net, back to the Hamilton Quarter
35:19on American Family Radio.
35:23And this is Bishop E.W. Jackson,
35:24and for Abraham Hamilton, the third here on the Hamilton
35:27Corner, my guest is none other than Bunny Pound.
35:30She's the president of Christians engage and she is the visionary behind America reads the Bible
35:35And I want to give you an opportunity to talk to her the numbers 888-589-8840
35:40That's 888-589-8840
35:43Bunny just before we go to the calls, how can people
35:48Connect with you find out what you're doing with your ministry
35:52Maybe get engaged through your ministry. Where would they go?
35:56Yes, if you want to get married, go to Christiansengage.org.
36:00No.
36:01No.
36:02Pray and Vote Engage.
36:03Go to Christiansengage.org.
36:06If you would like to see the 84 Hours of Bible Reading and see Genesis to Revelation, you can
36:12go to americareadsthebible.com and see the archives that are archived every hour on Pure
36:17Flix.
36:18We're so thankful for our partnership with them.
36:21And my new book is on Amazon or wherever you get your books, Christianbook.com, Barnes
36:25the noble stepping up to lead rebuilding a nation in the footsteps of Nehemiah.
36:30Stepping up to lead rebuilding a nation in the footsteps of Nehemiah.
36:34Wonderful. 888-58840.
36:38Bunny, we're going to go to the phones and give people an opportunity to talk to you.
36:43Our first caller is Wendy from Iowa. Wendy, welcome.
36:50Hi, Wendy.
36:51Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you.
36:57I wanted to call and you just gave the answer to my question.
37:01I wanted I didn't write down because I'm driving the name of that book of leadership in the Bible.
37:08And that's Nehemiah, correct? Yes, stepping up to lead. Yes, stepping up to lead, rebuilding a nation in the footsteps of Nehemiah.
37:18My name is Bunny pounds bunny with an eye. So just think of a bunny rabbit with an eye.
37:23Yeah, I'm sure you look at Bunny's name. You'll find the book. Okay. All right. Okay. B I N N Y. No, I D I N N I.
37:33Yes. Oh, be I. Okay. Yeah. My other book on my story is called Jesus in politics. One
37:42woman's walk with God in a mud slinging profession. That's a highly entertaining book too. Okay.
37:49All right, Wendy, well, follow follow up and I'm sure you are going to be inspired and encouraged
37:58about what God is doing with Bunny Pound. So thank you so much for the call Wendy. Let's
38:02go to Greg in Arkansas. Greg, welcome. Oh, Greg, we got some
38:12background noise there. I'm sorry. That's okay. I just had a
38:19simple question. And I think you pretty much answered it.
38:24Bunny just said go to American engage.org. I think it's
38:29Christian. Right? I was looking. I think it's Christians
38:34engage, right? Money and. Yeah, I'm going to engage that work and you can take the pledge. There's a
38:41commitment to pray for our nation to vote in every election and to gauge in some form of civic
38:47education or involvement for the well-being of our country. So just take that commitment,
38:52fill that out and you'll start getting prayer reminders every Monday and four votes, four voting
38:58reminders for every election to make sure you never forget to steward your nation well again.
39:04a man christians engaged out of love
39:09all right thank you so much i felt like for a long time
39:12exactly what you just said that
39:15people are too worried about their not gonna change anything so if everybody
39:19that says that would get off their butt and do something then
39:23we'd be more like money
39:25that they may and yes i i got tired of running christian candidates as
39:31candidates and then them losing because churches wouldn't come out to vote so
39:35If every Christian actually votes,
39:38we can literally shift the nation, I believe that.
39:40Hey, man, thank you for the call, Greg.
39:42Let's go to Carolyn in North Carolina.
39:45Carolyn, welcome.
39:48Hi, thank you.
39:49Appreciate your bishop and bunny, I love your name.
39:52Thank you.
39:54I was named after Billy Green's daughter, Ruth Graham Bell.
39:57Yeah.
39:58Oh, that's great.
40:01So my question is I have been,
40:04my husband's a veteran,
40:06So we pray for the country all the time.
40:08We're active in our church.
40:10I've been a public speaker for many years.
40:12I'm comfortable in front of five or 500.
40:16And my question is, what would be the best place
40:19to get started?
40:21Like what's the best next step to get started
40:26in my community, my church,
40:30my new community where I just moved?
40:35Where do I start?
40:36That's a great question.
40:39Number one, you wanna kind of look at your interests
40:42and what are the kind of the burdens that you carry?
40:45Is it for a specific topic?
40:47Is it for your Chamber of Commerce?
40:52Would you ever wanna run for office?
40:55We have a great program through Christian's Engage
40:57our area leader program that we actually walk with you.
41:01We have Zoom meetings once a month.
41:03We actually train people how to engage their pastor,
41:07do voter registration drives,
41:09how to lead classes in your home or in your church.
41:12We have so many resources there,
41:14but really you just wanna start somewhere.
41:16Is that going to a political party event?
41:21So one thing we love to tell people
41:24is we have an on-ramp to civic engagement class,
41:28and we've actually done this over around the country,
41:31but we haven't recorded.
41:33It's amazing, it's 29 bucks and you can buy it
41:36and it'll actually help you discover
41:37where you need to go for your life
41:40because there's so many needs.
41:42And between federal government, state government,
41:45county government, local government,
41:46there's so many ways you can plug in.
41:48But if we all find our place on the wall,
41:51that's where the power is.
41:52So we'll help you do that.
41:54Thank you for the call, Kelly.
41:56We appreciate that.
41:57Wow, that's really very practical advice, Bunny.
42:01And sounds like you've got a really practical way
42:04of helping people to get engaged,
42:07not just say and get engaged,
42:08but actually paving the way for people to do that.
42:11That is great.
42:12Okay, let's, we've got Tracy in Texas.
42:17Tracy, welcome.
42:20Hi, thank you for talking with me on call.
42:22Bunny, I just wanted to say thank you, thank you, thank you.
42:26so very much for being obedient to what the Lord put on your heart.
42:32I realized that you have already had some engagement in political areas,
42:36but I was so excited when I heard about this on this radio station
42:42and I drive for the city of Denton, Texas.
42:45And so I listened to this program, Hamilton Report all the time,
42:50while I'm driving around Denton.
42:52However, I was telling people about it when I found out about it
42:56and just kind of spreading the word
42:59and I was engaged with it throughout the week
43:01as much as possible.
43:03And I just wanted to thank you so much.
43:06And you've really inspired a lot of people
43:11to want to do more,
43:13but I'm just very grateful that you took this.
43:17And the dedication, people don't realize day by day
43:21that 24 hour thing you just said,
43:23they don't realize that day by day thing.
43:25how long 14 months can take to organize something?
43:29I'm doing good if I can get six people together
43:32for lunch date, so thank you.
43:35Thank you.
43:36Thank you, Tracy.
43:37Yeah, the depth of what it's done for families,
43:40I think I've not really realized how effective it was
43:45when you turn on a Bible reading in your home
43:49and thank you for playing it in your home for your family.
43:52Again, the amount of families that are still playing this nonstop,
43:56I've got even business owners that said they keep playing it in their offices,
44:01nonstop because the word just penetrating the atmosphere is shifting the environment
44:08in their offices or in their homes. Um, we had a one little boy woke up the other day.
44:14He told his mom and dad,
44:15he wanted to do America,
44:16read the Bible in their home at breakfast,
44:18He pulled out his little Jesus Bible and started reading it to his parents.
44:22I mean, that is culture changing.
44:25Amen.
44:26Because the altar is back in the home of the Bible being read.
44:30So thank you, Tracy, for doing that and keep sharing it with people.
44:35Hey, Abunni, since you brought this up, any chance that this becomes something that people
44:41could get in like they had now the you know the word Bible or the Bible the audio Bible
44:49and if any chance that this becomes something that's available to people on an ongoing basis.
44:54Yes well PureFlex has it for free everybody can watch every hour it's going to be there forever
45:02we're also going to take the audio files and put it out on a podcast you know streaming
45:08platform so that people can listen to it nonstop as well. We're going to be clipping every single
45:14reader on America Reads the Bible on our YouTube channel. So Patricia Heaton and Candice Camemberay
45:20and all of those will be individual clips so that people can share them on social media and stuff.
45:27Starting July 1, I'm probably going to watch every single video and invite the American people
45:32to watch each video with me. So we got a lot of plans to keep the archives alive and it's
45:39not the end. We don't know what God wants to do with America reads the Bible, but we do feel
45:44like we've tapped into something and we really have seen that there's a famine in the land
45:49for just the word. You know, we can't live on a 20 minute sermon at our local churches anymore
45:55and think we're going to make it guys. You've got to have the word all the time and this is just
45:59one of the ways you can get in the word in you. Well, we've only got a couple of minutes
46:03left. Let's see if we can get some of these calls in. We've got Samuel in Texas. Samuel, welcome.
46:09Yes. Good afternoon Bishop Bonnie. I just wanted to we were just talking to a group of pastors at
46:16Corpus Christi. We had citizens defending freedom. They actually did a proclamation at the county
46:24courthouse that basically was a proclamation from our county judge for a
46:30responsible fatherhood
46:32and i remember you a few years ago you came to corporate christy
46:36on body and it was just it's exciting to hear what you were doing
46:40i was very excited about america's reads the bible
46:43on the really resonates with me i've been for maybe about three years i've been
46:48literally
46:49on quoting
46:50exit is twenty
46:51every morning
46:53in the morning out in the air and I believe that speaking scripture out like
46:57what you did with America's reached the Bible
47:00was absolutely what our nation needs and that's really thankful for you for doing
47:05that
47:05on the god bless you and continue to work through you
47:08thank you and carpets christy is a perfect example of what it looks like
47:13when the church gets together i mean there's no more unity in the body of
47:17christ than in corpus christy texas and you have the best member of congress
47:21because of it. Uh, Congressman Michael Cloud, who's a dear friend and on our advisory board. So,
47:27um, that's what happens when the church gets together and works in a community is what's happening
47:31in Corpus Christi, Texas. So keep it up. Amen. We've got time for one more call. This is, I think
47:36it's pronounced Randell could correct me if I'm wrong, Randell, uh, from Arkansas, I believe. Welcome.
47:45Thank you, Bishop. Thank you, Bonnie. Uh, Randall Randall. Okay. Yeah. Um, I'm burdened by the fact
47:53that I have family in Texas that I tried to convey to them what you have been saying,
48:01what Bunny says, and of course we know the answers are in God's Word.
48:05And they still listen to the media and whatever they hear on WBAP or KRLD or whatever,
48:16or TV radio, they still cannot believe
48:21that they're being misled.
48:25And so even with me trying to convey that to them,
48:29they still voted incorrectly.
48:32And that's what's at the burden I carry.
48:35Yeah.
48:36All right, Randall, I'm gonna let you go
48:37and let Bunny respond to that.
48:38And then Bunny, I wanna try to get in one more time
48:40where people can connect with you,
48:43but go ahead and respond to Randall.
48:45Yeah, it is a sobering moment guys,
48:47and this is why we read the Bible all the way through
48:50because we have to know the truth
48:53and the only way we're gonna know truth from error
48:56in the days ahead is the word of God.
48:58So, you know, just to keep encouraging your family members
49:01that there's only one place of truth,
49:03and that's the word,
49:04and we have to line up our voting habits related to that.
49:08And unfortunately, that's not an easy message for people,
49:11but it's a message we have to keep caring it.
49:13So thank you for caring it.
49:15So many people are inspired by you.
49:17How again, give them how to get the book,
49:19how to connect with your website,
49:21just to tell people that information again
49:23for those who might have missed it.
49:25Yeah, go to Christiansengage.org,
49:28take the pledge to pray, vote, and engage.
49:30You'll get in our system and connect with the ministry.
49:34Marica reads the Bible.com,
49:36where you can watch non-stop Bible reading.
49:39It's amazing and you'll touch your life.
49:42And then the new book is Stepping Up to Lead,
49:44rebuilding a nation in the footsteps of Nehemiah.
49:46So get it wherever you get your books.
49:48Well, Bunny, it looks like you and I may be seeing each other.
49:50It's gonna be a big crowd.
49:51So I don't know that that will happen,
49:53but I'll be at the funeral for James as well.
49:56So maybe by the grace of God, I'll see you there.
49:59But thank you so much, Bunny, for all that you are doing
50:01for God, for the body of Christ and for our country.
50:05Well, thank you, Bishop.
50:06And we'll honor the man who got us all started
50:08and encourages us in the next,
50:10I know he's cheering in a great cloud of witnesses
50:12for us right now.
50:13Hey man, folks that was Bunny Pound great woman of God. I can't believe that she's got three grandchildren
50:19but
50:20but
50:21Wonderful woman of God being used mightily by the Holy Spirit
50:25You all know what to do stand up step up speak up and refuse to back up because we cannot be defeated
50:30If we will not quit because we are on God's side

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