Guest Host Bishop E. W. Jackson Explores the Kirk Assassination Fallout

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25. 1:18First of all, let's talk a little bit
26. 1:20about the Memorial Service held for Charlie Kirk.
27. 1:23A hundred thousand people showed up apparently.
28. 1:26And here's the first interesting thing
29. 1:28that you may or may not have heard, there are some who say there were a hundred million
30. 1:37people watching online around the world and that we may well have seen the largest single
31. 1:47sitting audience hear the gospel of Jesus Christ preached.
32. 1:53the words never been an audience that size, actually hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ
33. 2:01proclaimed.
34. 2:02Well, it's we living in the, I really believe we're at the end of the end times and that
35. 2:08doesn't mean Jesus is coming tomorrow or next month or next year.
36. 2:11I don't know when, but clearly things are happening that are unprecedented.
37. 2:18the impact that a 31-year-old is having around the world as a result of his assassination is
38. 2:25astounding.
39. 2:27We know that this is not Charlie Kirk, no disrespect meant to him, but we know this is the hand
40. 2:32of God working through that situation.
41. 2:35As I always say, God didn't kill Charlie Kirk, God didn't engineer his murder, God didn't
42. 2:40put it in the heart of this assassin to go out and kill him.
43. 2:44The Bible says in Ephesians 111, God works all things according to the counsel of his will.
44. 2:50In Romans 828, we know that all things work together for good for those who love the Lord
45. 2:55and for those who are the called according to his purpose.
46. 2:57That certainly was Charlie Kirk.
47. 2:59So doesn't say that all things are God's will.
48. 3:03It doesn't say that all things are good, but says he works all things according to the
49. 3:09counsel of his will.
50. 3:11And that all things work together for good.
51. 3:14say they are good, but they work together, he works them together for good. And it's clear that
52. 3:21this horrible act, this evil act, is now being used by God to further the very cause that this
53. 3:28man thought he was destroying or thought he was stopping. In fact, he has multiplied it, magnified
54. 3:34it exponentially, and it's going around the world. So that's the first thing to be said about this.
55. 3:40Rob McCoy, friend of mine preached a gospel message.
56. 3:44Rob McCoy and I have been on the stage together many a time.
57. 3:48And there he was on perhaps the largest stage
58. 3:50any preachers ever been on, frankly.
59. 3:53Mys, with Jesus said, the things that I do show you do also
60. 3:55and greater things in thee show you do
61. 3:57because I go to my father.
62. 3:59And this is an audience larger than the single,
63. 4:02or any single audience that Jesus himself had.
64. 4:05Although Jesus, of course, is the most famous
65. 4:08and the most heard and the most influential person in human history, that is not going
66. 4:15to change ever because he is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords.
67. 4:19The second thing I want to say about this is contrast the way Christians, conservatives,
68. 4:27have conducted themselves in light of the violent attack on one of our most effective leaders
69. 4:36and spokesperson.
70. 4:37This young man with his whole future ahead of him, but the response has been peaceful.
71. 4:43It has been forgiving.
72. 4:44It has been loving.
73. 4:48It has been full of faith and full of optimism and hope rather than bitterness and anger
74. 4:55and vengeance.
75. 4:58Contrast that.
76. 5:00Charlie Kirk was not a criminal, had done nothing wrong.
77. 5:04And yet, contrast that to what happened with George Floyd.
78. 5:07And I really do believe George Floyd's death was wrong.
79. 5:10And whether the officer caused his death or contributed to his death, he certainly made a
80. 5:18big mistake putting his knee on Charlie Kirk's neck.
81. 5:25That was not a healthy, appropriate thing to do and then leaving it there for all that time.
82. 5:32I said, I meant to say George Floyd's neck, but George Floyd was a meth addict.
83. 5:38He was a fentanyl addict.
84. 5:40He was a counterfeiter.
85. 5:43And when he died, you would have thought it was St. Paul because the riots began and
86. 5:51the destruction and the looting and the burning down of buildings and the setting police
87. 5:58cars on fire and you name it all kind of, I think 12 people killed during that time.
88. 6:05A couple of billion dollars in damage to property done.
89. 6:09And this is over George Floyd who was certainly no hero.
90. 6:13He just happened to be a victim in a situation that he himself in a sense precipitated because
91. 6:19he got himself into it because of his bad behavior, his criminal behavior.
92. 6:24What the outcome was not justified for what he had been doing,
93. 6:27obviously shouldn't have died for it.
94. 6:30But nevertheless, it precipitated all kinds of crime
95. 6:34and disorder.
96. 6:35Charlie Kirk was innocent and yet no crime, no disorder,
97. 6:40no riots, no burning down buildings, none of that.
98. 6:46The response has been peaceful.
99. 6:49I will put the behavior of Christian conservatives up.
100. 6:53Same thing is true with the Tea Party.
101. 6:54continue to try to accuse the Tea Party of racism and they are dangerous and none of
102. 7:01that panned out.
103. 7:02It was all a lie.
104. 7:04So contrast our behavior as Christians and conservatives with what the left does and what
105. 7:10they cause.
106. 7:11And I am absolutely convinced that's because the love of God's been shed abroad and our
107. 7:16hearts through the Holy Spirit and because we aren't solely dependent, not what we do
108. 7:22is important, but it's not ultimately important. What is ultimately important is what God does,
109. 7:26and we are dependent upon Him. So we don't have to try to kill people and burn stuff up,
110. 7:31and we're going to make something happen. We pray and say, Lord, we know that the outcome
111. 7:37of human history is ultimately in your hands. And we turn the situation over to you, and you lead
112. 7:43us, God, show us what you would have us do. And God is never going to lead us to violence,
113. 7:48into to murder and to mayhem and to vengeance and all of that.
114. 7:52Because those are works of the flesh.
115. 7:54And we've been delivered from all that.
116. 7:55We are led by the Spirit of God now.
117. 7:58So any honest person, honest person, looking at the contrast,
118. 8:03looking at the two different responses has got to say,
119. 8:07I got to admit, those people's responses are a whole lot better
120. 8:11than the response of the left.
121. 8:14Even people may say of the response on my side of the equation where people are doing horrible
122. 8:20things in the name of some kind of quest for social justice.
123. 8:25So an important lesson to be learned here for anybody who will be honest with themselves
124. 8:31about the difference in response.
125. 8:32One response suggests the righteousness of the people and another response suggests the
126. 8:37wickedness of the people, the righteousness of people who refuse to engage.
127. 8:41I mean, Erica Kirk saying, I forgive him as opposed to what the left has been saying, condemning
128. 8:50him and calling him names and slandering and lying against him even even in his death.
129. 8:57They won't let the man, they won't even let his memory rest in peace.
130. 9:01They've got to slander his memory.
131. 9:03He was a fascist.
132. 9:04He was a racist.
133. 9:05It just the difference is stark.
134. 9:09I went back and found some of my own responses to the possibility that Joe Biden had prostate
135. 9:17cancer.
136. 9:18And just found old tweets saying, look, I don't want Joe Biden to die prostate cancer.
137. 9:24We'd be praying for him, pray that he's healed.
138. 9:27I want him to be president, but I don't wish ill on the man.
139. 9:30Same thing with Ruth Gator, Ben Ginsburg, Ruth Bader Ginsburg died.
140. 9:34Same thing.
141. 9:35to notice these people have just spewed so much hatred.
142. 9:41So I think that the difference is quite stark
143. 9:45and quite obvious that the spirit of God is working in us
144. 9:50and the spirit of the devil is working in them.
145. 9:55Now, Charlie Kurt, I really believe is a Christian martyr.
146. 10:00I believe that.
147. 10:01I believe he died in part for the gospel of Jesus Christ
148. 10:03because he was out there telling people,
149. 10:05Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
150. 10:07He is the answer. He is the only way. I also believe Charlie Kirk died as a constitutional hero because I
151. 10:13believe that he was actually exercising the God-given right secured by the Constitution of freedom of
152. 10:20speech and freedom of religion but doing it in a peaceful way, doing it in an engaging way,
153. 10:25not threatening violence, not intentionally trying to do any harm to people but just debating their
154. 10:31ideas and his life was taken for it. This guy didn't kill Charlie Kirk because he was proclaiming
155. 10:41the gospel of Jesus Christ even though the world he was espousing is a biblical worldview.
156. 10:46He killed him because of the views he was espousing on homosexuality and gender confusion
157. 10:52because that seemed to be what he was really caught up about since he was living with his
158. 10:56so called there's no such thing as a transgender. There's only gender confused people because
159. 11:01you can't transition. But he was living with this guy who I guess now thinks he's a woman.
160. 11:09And I guess that's what he was all worked up about, probably really convicted in his own
161. 11:13conscience of the wrongdoing that he was engaged in. And Charlie Kirk being a spokesperson against
162. 11:20that wrongdoing, a very prominent one, a very well-known one, became the target of this guy's
163. 11:26and he decided he was going to kill him for it. Now, I mean, and people are
164. 11:33criticizing Charlie Kirk as opposed to Tyler Robbins. Well, I've got a
165. 11:40proposal. I've always believed that we should give a lot more attention to
166. 11:43Constitution Day, September 17th, and I thought Charlie Kirk was murdered one
167. 11:49week before Constitution Day. And I think one of the ways of honoring him would be
168. 11:55to make Constitution Day a federal holiday. And I'm calling for that. We're going
169. 11:58to be starting a letter writing campaign here shortly, asking people to sign on to that,
170. 12:03because I really believe it would unify us, or at least help to unify us, because every
171. 12:09American lives under the Constitution.
172. 12:11It would educate us, because so many Americans are so ignorant of the Constitution, don't even
173. 12:15think about it, but at least having a federal holiday Constitution day would give people
174. 12:19a chance to stop and reflect on the Constitution and its nobility and its success, the most
175. 12:26successful governing document in the history of mankind.
176. 12:30And then it would be inspiring too,
177. 12:31because it would focus on something,
178. 12:35there's much good about America, obviously,
179. 12:38but the left tries to focus on anything they can hang there,
180. 12:41had on that they think makes us look terrible.
181. 12:44And Ilhan Omar saying,
182. 12:46we're supposed to be one of the good countries,
183. 12:49but we're one of the worst.
184. 12:51Yeah, well, it goes very little.
185. 12:53The country was built on slavery, a lie.
186. 12:56They stole the land from the Indians, a lie, completely taking the circumstances of life
187. 13:04400 years ago, so different than they are today.
188. 13:09And to take today's sensibilities and try to apply them to the age of conquest, that's
189. 13:14what I call that age.
190. 13:15It was the age of conquest.
191. 13:18People didn't have probate courts where they own tracts of land that they had purchased or
192. 13:23that had traded.
193. 13:24I mean, people were constantly fighting over possession of land.
194. 13:29And generally speaking, wherever there was a dictator or a king, they controlled all
195. 13:36the land and dispensed it to whom they would.
196. 13:39But where there was tribalism as in the North American continent, North and South American
197. 13:44continents, they were constantly fighting over control over land.
198. 13:48The notion that somehow it was owned by somebody is just preposterous.
199. 13:54trying to apply today's legal framework to four centuries ago, and it just doesn't work.
200. 14:04So we've got plenty that we can talk about that is noble and the Constitution is perhaps
201. 14:12among the most preeminent, and we need to be doing that more.
202. 14:15Constitution, they'd be a great time to do that.
203. 14:18Let's make it a federal holiday so that every American can take stock of what God has given
204. 14:23us.
205. 14:24ZW Jackson in for Abraham Hamilton III will be back in just a moment.
206. 14:29A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker.
207. 15:04What if a person says they don't want to be involved in spiritual warfare?
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209. 15:13Tragically, none of us have a choice in the matter.
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213. 15:29and problems and difficulties of war. Or we can choose to become well equipped soldiers
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220. 16:11My own daughter, for example, challenged her mother for the first time when she was just
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249. 18:06This is the Hamilton Corner, an American family radio.
250. 18:10This is Bishop E.W. Jackson in for Abraham Hamilton the third. Great to be with you again tonight.
251. 18:18So look, if you want to help us to make Constitution Day a federal holiday, we are recruiting ambassadors
252. 18:28for stands. We call them Stand Ambassadors. We'll give you an official stand pin that you can wear
253. 18:34and you can help us to put the word out there. Let's make Constitution Day in honor of Charlie
254. 18:39Kirk. Let's make it a federal holiday, an opportunity for us to unify around our Constitution, an
255. 18:45opportunity for us to be educated about the Constitution. We can talk about it so much
256. 18:50about the Constitution to learn by the way folks, a lot to learn, not just the text of the Constitution,
257. 18:55but the story around how the Constitution unfolded. The Federalist Papers and Gouverneur Morris, the
258. 19:02most anti-slavery founding father at the Constitutional Convention, who was asked then to write the preamble.
259. 19:09I really believe that when he wrote the words in order to,
260. 19:12we the people in order to form a more perfect union,
261. 19:15given his preoccupation with ending slavery,
262. 19:19I really believe that that's what he had on his mind,
263. 19:21the more perfect union being every person in America,
264. 19:26every American citizen.
265. 19:28And he was thinking, I mean, he made clear in other statements
266. 19:31that he made that he thought of the people who brought here,
267. 19:33who brought here slaves had been here for,
268. 19:35for at that point, in some cases, a couple hundred years,
269. 19:41that they were citizens who should also be part
270. 19:44of this wonderful union and enjoy all of the blessings
271. 19:47of liberty as well.
272. 19:49But that's just one, Ben Franklin standing up
273. 19:51and giving the speech about calling upon God
274. 19:53in the middle of the Constitutional Convention
275. 19:55when they reached inpasses.
276. 19:56So it's a wonderfully inspiring story
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278. 20:02as well as unify us around the most successful
279. 20:05governing document in the history of mankind.
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286. 20:22Now, did you all see or hear about Bill Maher
287. 20:26having a discussion with Rob Reinhart
288. 20:30over whether or not they should talk to people
289. 20:33with whom they disagree?
290. 20:35and bill mar arguing that
291. 20:37that we should
292. 20:39and rob ryan hard arguing we shouldn't
293. 20:42and by the way you all may not know this but
294. 20:46uh... i did politically incorrect when bill mar was on a b c i did politically
295. 20:50incorrect is back in uh... late nineties i guess
296. 20:54uh... many times many times i was on with uh...
297. 20:58with uh...
298. 21:00uh... samuel el jackson and
299. 21:03And oh, who's the woman who displayed it?
300. 21:05Her name will come to me,
301. 21:06displayed the replica of a bloody head of Donald Trump
302. 21:13with her and many, many other celebrities.
303. 21:16They would fly me out to California.
304. 21:18I'd do the program, they'd fly me right back.
305. 21:20And I did that many, many times for Bill Maher,
306. 21:24which proves he was interested in hearing the other side
307. 21:27because whenever I would be on the program,
308. 21:29I would be the primary person of interest
309. 21:32because they all were in agreement,
310. 21:34all the Hollywood types were in agreement
311. 21:35and I was the one person who was not in agreement.
312. 21:39And it was, it got fiery at times
313. 21:42and I was usually, in fact, every time I was on,
314. 21:46I was the one on the hot seat
315. 21:47because they had a preacher of the gospel of Jesus Christ
316. 21:51talking to a bunch, frankly, of godless reprobates.
317. 21:54You know what I mean?
318. 21:55I don't mean to, I'm not trying to be disparaging,
319. 21:57I'm just telling the truth.
320. 21:58You know, I was dealing with pretty much
321. 22:00a bunch of godless repubates who thought everything I stood for was ridiculous.
322. 22:06Kathy Griffin is her name, right?
323. 22:08Kathy Griffin, who said, I'm pretty sure, although don't hold me to this.
324. 22:13I've got a bunch of those tapes that I've been meaning to put out there and it just, it
325. 22:18man with folks, man with, it hasn't happened, but I hope it will so you all can see, take
326. 22:23a little walk down memory lane with me.
327. 22:26So I think Bill Marcus sincere about that, about bringing somebody, having a discussion
328. 22:30with somebody with whom he disagrees.
329. 22:34But Robert Reinhardt said no.
330. 22:35Now here's the problem.
331. 22:37It's hard to have a discussion with somebody who basically labels you someone who should
332. 22:42be killed.
333. 22:45And that's what they're doing when they label us Nazis, when they label us fascists, when they
334. 22:49label us Larry and they're really saying we should die.
335. 22:55Because we all know that those are folks that we fought against in World War II, for example,
336. 23:01and tried to kill, right?
337. 23:03I mean, nobody would have wept except maybe other Nazis if Hitler had been killed before
338. 23:11he killed himself at the end of World War II.
339. 23:15I remember, again, who was it?
340. 23:20Who likened Donald Trump to Osama bin Laden?
341. 23:24Well, what do we do to Osama bin Laden? We killed him. So it's hard to have a discussion with somebody who thinks you should be dead
342. 23:29Okay, and what's the difference between us and them you say well, you know, they call us Nazis and I say they're demonic the difference is I
343. 23:37Believe they have
344. 23:39Redemptive value. I believe that God loves them wants them if they can be persuaded to turn from their wicked ways
345. 23:49They can enjoy the same peace love joy redemption that we enjoy
346. 23:54God will not withhold it from them if they will turn to him in repentance.
347. 23:58See, it's one thing.
348. 23:59We don't want them dead.
349. 24:00In fact, we want them alive.
350. 24:02If you listen to my or watch my podcast, I try not to replicate it and make it so similar
351. 24:13that you don't have to see both or hear both.
352. 24:16But I did say on my podcast, which will post tomorrow on AFR, that I want Tyler Robinson
353. 24:25to go to heaven. I really do. Now, he's got to repent, and he's got to seek the forgiveness
354. 24:32of God for the sin, the terrible sin, all the sins, but that sin in particular, he's committed.
355. 24:39And he's got to bow the knee to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. But if he will do that,
356. 24:44he can get into heaven because God will forgive him. Now, by the way, that does not mean he
357. 24:52He should not be punished in this earth for what he's done because I happen to believe
358. 24:56that he should get the death penalty for what he's done.
359. 24:59And even if he were saved, I'd be joyous in that, but he still I'd say, but you still have
360. 25:04to be executed because you have to pay in this life for the wrong that you've done here.
361. 25:09Then when you stand before God, you'll stand before God innocent, cleansed by the blood
362. 25:14of Jesus Christ.
363. 25:16But the blood of Jesus Christ does not apply to absolving you of punishment here on earth
364. 25:24for the wrong you've done.
365. 25:27So I think we can have it both ways in this case.
366. 25:33I'd love to see him avoid eternal damnation, but he cannot avoid earthly punishment.
367. 25:42So I'm happy to engage with people who don't agree with me because I really believe that
368. 25:48that they can be redeemed, that God wants to redeem them.
369. 25:51The problem is theirs, because if they want me dead,
370. 25:55then clearly they don't want a discussion,
371. 25:57they think I should be gotten rid of.
372. 26:00And that's a very different thing,
373. 26:02which brings me to the final point.
374. 26:05Now I want to take your calls in the next segment.
375. 26:07The number is 888-589-8840.
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377. 26:16Let me just say, folks,
378. 26:18One of the slanders against Charlie Kirk
379. 26:21that is really galled me,
380. 26:23and we hear it again and again,
381. 26:25is the slander, well, he's a racist, he's a racist.
382. 26:29I've heard people like Jasmine Crooked, Crockett,
383. 26:34say, he's, he wants to roll back the rights of black people.
384. 26:39He wants to roll back the rights of women.
385. 26:41This stuff is just so ridiculous that,
386. 26:45you know, and you want to laugh at it in part
387. 26:48because it's just so silly.
388. 26:51And Charlie Kirk believed in no such thing.
389. 26:54And they never offer up any evidence of that, any quote,
390. 26:58anything that he said or did.
391. 27:00They just throw it out there.
392. 27:01And everybody's supposed to just, oh, well, you know,
393. 27:03that's okay.
394. 27:04He was a racist.
395. 27:05He was a fascist.
396. 27:06He wanted to take away the rights of black people.
397. 27:08He wanted to take away the rights of women.
398. 27:10I mean, it's utterly ridiculous.
399. 27:16This brings me to something that the Lord laid on my heart
400. 27:20during Project 76, which is the movement to de-racialize America.
401. 27:25We've got to bring in into all of this racial nonsense.
402. 27:31And I don't know whether you all heard about this,
403. 27:33but this was brought home by an incident with Winston Sears.
404. 27:38She's the Lieutenant Governor of Virginia.
405. 27:40She's running for governor.
406. 27:41She went to a game at Norfolk State between Norfolk State
407. 27:43and Virginia State University to historically Black Colleges.
408. 27:47And when they introduced her, she was booed.
409. 27:51she was booed by the crowd of people there.
410. 27:53Apparently a very big crowd,
411. 27:55I don't know exactly how many, but thousands.
412. 27:57She was booed, predominantly black, of course.
413. 28:00And why?
414. 28:02She was booed only because she's a Republican.
415. 28:06She's the lieutenant governor.
416. 28:07I thought the whole point of civil rights
417. 28:09and the whole point of freedom and desegregation
418. 28:12was so that people regardless of the color
419. 28:15of their skin could rise to the level
420. 28:17that their potential takes them
421. 28:19and she has risen to the level
422. 28:20being lieutenant governor, the first woman, female lieutenant governor of Virginia, not
423. 28:25to mention first black person, but first female lieutenant governor of Virginia.
424. 28:29She's now running for governor.
425. 28:30They booed her.
426. 28:33First of all, disrespectful, ill-mannered.
427. 28:36You would think an institution of higher learning would cultivate in people a higher
428. 28:41level of sensibility than that, because that's just juvenile to me.
429. 28:46Obviously, they did that.
430. 28:48And why?
431. 28:48Because even though these are the people will say, we want black people to prosper.
432. 28:54We want black people to move forward.
433. 28:56We want black people to, you know, you all alone, the racial, you know, bromides, except the
434. 29:04black people who don't buy the racial victimization narrative, the black people who don't buy all white
435. 29:10people are racist and there are enemies and they're the oppressor.
436. 29:13and all black people are victims and their victims of systemic racism in America, an
437. 29:17America's a terrible place because we don't get opportunities to make a white privilege
438. 29:21and all of us who don't buy that, well, we're not really black.
439. 29:29This is what the left sells.
440. 29:30I mean, that's what Biden said, right?
441. 29:32Biden said, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black.
442. 29:35Well, I'm sure glad we've got Biden to make that determination rather than God.
443. 29:43We've got to end this stuff.
444. 29:45just got to end it. I mean, because people need to be forced to deal with the policy prescriptions
445. 29:52that Wincom Sears is putting forth rather than she's a black Republican. Yeah, but what does
446. 29:58she stand for? I don't know what policy she's pursuing. I don't know. I mean, well, folks,
447. 30:09forgive me for putting this fine opponent, but that's just downright dumb. And if you're
448. 30:14in a university, you ought to be there precisely to avoid being dumb. You ought to be asking the
449. 30:23question, what is it that when some seers will do? And again, once again, when some seers is pro
450. 30:30life, when some seers is pro family, when some seers is pro America. So yeah, when some seers is
451. 30:36against all these killing of unborn babies, not to mention the disproportionate number of unborn
452. 30:41babies who happen to be black who are killed, she's against that.
453. 30:45When some seers is against putting men in girls locker rooms and on girls teams and in
454. 30:51girls showers, yeah, she's against that.
455. 30:55And I guarantee you, if you ask the people in that audience who booed her, whether they
456. 30:59agree with her, they'd probably say, well, yeah, we agree with her, but what?
457. 31:04And the answer is, but they don't know because, and I guarantee you, when some seers is in
458. 31:09in favor of educational opportunity
459. 31:12so that children in these poor inner city communities
460. 31:15can get a better education than they're getting
461. 31:17indoctrination in these government schools
462. 31:21and the overwhelming majority of black folks support that.
463. 31:26So in what way then does she deserve all these booze?
464. 31:30Well, it doesn't really matter
465. 31:31because you see she's a Republican and we've been told,
466. 31:36we've been indoctrinated to believe
467. 31:37that Republicans are racist.
468. 31:39So if she's a Republican, she is a racist.
469. 31:41She's against the black race.
470. 31:45This stuff has just got to him.
471. 31:48It's unhealthy for people.
472. 31:50It's unhealthy for our country.
473. 31:51And it really is unhealthy for the future of America.
474. 31:55It really is.
475. 31:57Not to me, I think while certainly it's embarrassing
476. 32:00for win some serious to have to go through something like that,
477. 32:03folks, I think it's more embarrassing for those schools
478. 32:06to think that this is what passes for education.
479. 32:13I mean, of course they're not the only ones.
480. 32:15I'm not just blaming these two historically black colleges
481. 32:18because we've seen this craziness in Columbia and Harvard
482. 32:21and NYU and Yale and all over the place.
483. 32:26I mean, we've seen this kind of really uncouth behavior
484. 32:33and that's putting it mildly.
485. 32:35They apparently booed her when she was introduced.
486. 32:38I mean, even if you just give her polite applause,
487. 32:41because I mean, after all she is the lieutenant governor
488. 32:43of the state, and you show her some courtesy.
489. 32:47And then when she got ready to leave,
490. 32:49I don't think it was too long after that,
491. 32:50because she probably felt like, well, clearly,
492. 32:52I'm not wanted here, they booed her again.
493. 32:56And for what?
494. 32:59I suppose the racial ideology that they buy into,
495. 33:04they would rather have a white liberal
496. 33:08in the lieutenant governor's role,
497. 33:11then have a black person who they cannot identify
498. 33:13as subscribing to all the racial ideology
499. 33:16that they have been inculcated with.
500. 33:19And it's rather disgusting.
501. 33:22I'm committed to, as long as the Lord gives me life
502. 33:25and time on this earth to ending this nonsense,
503. 33:28this craziness, every individual should be evaluated
504. 33:32as an individual period,
505. 33:36not based upon the color of that person's skin,
506. 33:39Which means for that particular audience, supposedly an educated audience, if they didn't know much
507. 33:47about Win-Some Sears and she shows up at the game and then she gets polite applause because
508. 33:51she's there but people don't know much about her, they leave thinking, let me look up Lieutenant
509. 33:56Governor Sears and see what policy she's proposing.
510. 33:59We've got an election coming up.
511. 34:00I want to vote intelligently about this.
512. 34:02I don't really know enough to do that, right?
513. 34:04Just yet.
514. 34:05Right?
515. 34:06I mean, do you think that's what educated people would do.
516. 34:10But I don't guess most of these higher education institutions are giving much higher in the way
517. 34:15of higher education.
518. 34:17Maybe they're giving low indoctrination.
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541. 36:04The heinous murder of Charlie Kirk has caused people all across our country to hold vigils
542. 36:10for this extraordinary young man.
543. 36:12Many in the left, however, are revealing their unmerciful hearts, expressing their glee that
544. 36:17Charlie Kirk was shot dead.
545. 36:19How to explain the celebration of evil?
546. 36:22First John 3 says, for what reason did Cain slay Abel?
547. 36:26Because his deeds were evil and his brothers were righteous.
548. 36:30Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer.
549. 36:32The murderer and those who praise him hate what is good, and unrestrained hatred leads
550. 36:38to violence and murder.
551. 36:39They are lost and need Christ to save them.
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589. 39:32number. Let's go to your calls. We've got Juan in Virginia.
590. 39:37Juan, welcome. Hi Bishop. So good to hear you again on the radio.
591. 39:43I love you. Thank you. So I know you're very familiar with
592. 39:48the candidates here in Virginia. Sorry, I'm outdoors. I know you're familiar with the candidates
593. 39:53here in Virginia, and I have no doubt in my mind I will be voting for Win some Sears. But
594. 39:59they're the candidate that they asked me to co-sponsor a fundraiser and I really have my
595. 40:05doubts. I don't know much about him. His name is John Reed. Do you know much about him?
596. 40:10Well, yes, as a matter of fact, I do know about John Reed. And Juan, we got a lot of praying
597. 40:15to do for the Commonwealth of Virginia. Here's my byword. I said, I don't want the state of
598. 40:20George Washington to become the state of Karl Marx. And we know that's what the Democrats
599. 40:24will do with it if we allow them to. So, so thank you for the call, Juan. Let me just say,
600. 40:29I do know of John Reed, the fact that was scheduled to meet with John Reed two or three
601. 40:35weeks ago, and I couldn't do it because of Project 76 and that just sort of gobbled up
602. 40:39all of my time. I think I am scheduled to meet with him again. I'm not exactly sure when.
603. 40:46Here's the issue with John Reed. John Reed is presumably conservative on many issues,
604. 40:53perhaps on most issues. He's a talk show host here in Virginia or was. He is an open and practicing
605. 41:01and out homosexual. He has a homosexual lover. I don't know whether they're supposed to be married
606. 41:07or not. That I don't know. But I know that his homosexual partner, if you will, travels
607. 41:14with him, campaigns with him. And so he is very open and forthcoming and forthright about
608. 41:20that and thinks it's okay. And so a lot of Christians are not going to vote for John
609. 41:26Reed because they feel in good conscience. They cannot, even though I've heard an argument
610. 41:31be made that I think has some merit. I don't know. I don't think it gets me over the threshold.
611. 41:36but it has some merit that the other person is worse.
612. 41:40I just have a difficult time sanctioning the legitimacy
613. 41:45of a homosexual relationship and having a lieutenant governor
614. 41:49who is openly practicing homosexual.
615. 41:52I mean, that's what they've got in Colorado now.
616. 41:54They've got, of course, this person's a Democrat,
617. 41:56but they've got a governor who's openly homosexual,
618. 42:00lives with his homosexual lover or husband
619. 42:02or whatever he wants to call him.
620. 42:03I don't know, but it's a mess.
621. 42:05It's just a mess.
622. 42:07And so that's the situation with John Reed.
623. 42:11I have told people that I know who've tried to urge me
624. 42:15to support him for the contrast with the Democrat,
625. 42:19who apparently really is terrible.
626. 42:21And I've told them as a practical political matter,
627. 42:24I see the argument, but for me,
628. 42:26this is a matter of conscience.
629. 42:28And I've got an answer to God ultimately.
630. 42:31And frankly, I feel I have an obligation
631. 42:36to the body of Christ too, to demonstrate an example
632. 42:40of how I think we should behave.
633. 42:42And so there's one other candidate in the race
634. 42:45who is right in candidate, probably has almost no chance
635. 42:49of winning.
636. 42:50I think there are many Christians who will just cast
637. 42:52a vote for him as a symbolic protest vote
638. 42:54and vote for Win some Sears and Jason Mirares
639. 42:58and then whatever local candidates might be running
640. 43:00that they find acceptable.
641. 43:01So that's the situation on John Reed, Juan,
642. 43:06and a lot of people are not happy about the Republican party
643. 43:11having put us in this position.
644. 43:13So that's another matter.
645. 43:14Let's go to Michael in Texas.
646. 43:17Michael, welcome.
647. 43:19Brother Jackson, Bishop Jackson.
648. 43:22I'll go for you.
649. 43:23Every chance I get.
650. 43:24Thank you, sir.
651. 43:26For years, and I love all your programs,
652. 43:29I love that you ran for president.
653. 43:33Thank you.
654. 43:36I appreciate it.
655. 43:39The thing with Tyler Robinson, even before all that, I've had these thoughts, but since
656. 43:47this happened and since the memorial, I thought of the exact same thing you said.
657. 43:53I not only pray for him to accept Christ and go to heaven, although I do agree with the
658. 43:59death penalty strongly.
659. 44:02that doesn't stop you from going to heaven.
660. 44:05And I just, I pray that it honestly is a trend
661. 44:12in that group of people in the world
662. 44:15that their hearts are touched and changed
663. 44:18in a way that it starts a whole new way of thinking
664. 44:23for them and draws them close to God.
665. 44:27Hey man, Michael, thank you for the call.
666. 44:29I couldn't agree with you more.
667. 44:31And, you know, folks, I'd say this too.
668. 44:34You know, and this people may find this a little bit strange,
669. 44:37but you know, I really believe that one of the most
670. 44:39compassionate things you can do for someone like Tyler Robinson
671. 44:43is to give him the death penalty so that he knows
672. 44:46you have a limited amount of time to resolve,
673. 44:49to reconcile yourself to God.
674. 44:52You don't get forever to do it.
675. 44:54You can't put it off.
676. 44:55You gotta decide.
677. 44:57Because most people, a lot of the people who go to hell,
678. 45:00That's what they think.
679. 45:01They think, oh, I had plenty of time to deal with that.
680. 45:04And then suddenly their lives are cut short
681. 45:07and they realize standing before God,
682. 45:09they had no time and didn't know it.
683. 45:11So death penalty gives you a clear time frame
684. 45:16and says, you better get right with God and do it now.
685. 45:19So who knows, maybe Tyler Robinson will do that.
686. 45:22We pray that they all will do that
687. 45:24when they see the contrast between the way we're behaving
688. 45:26ourselves in spite of the death of Charlie Kirk
689. 45:29and the way they behave themselves,
690. 45:31whatever, anything that they think has gone wrong
691. 45:35or is it somehow an injustice the way they behave?
692. 45:39Let's go to Jason, also in Texas.
693. 45:41Jason, welcome.
694. 45:44Hey brother, Bishop.
695. 45:45I know you're blessed.
696. 45:46I'm blessed as well, brother.
697. 45:47Good to be here and be on the radio again.
698. 45:50Look, amen to everything Michael said
699. 45:52and you've been saying, and you know,
700. 45:55when I was growing up, I want to talk about this racism thing.
701. 45:58What the racism was you being prejudiced against somebody's skin color, you know, they completely
702. 46:04flipped all the speech on us about boys and girls and the whole racism.
703. 46:08You love your flag.
704. 46:09You love your country.
705. 46:10You don't want boys going into girls bad from your races, you know.
706. 46:14You want America to be sovereign, you know.
707. 46:18So I got a sticker on my truck says Rosa Red Ball, it's a blue.
708. 46:22This is a man.
709. 46:23Trump.
710. 46:24This is one too.
711. 46:25Bruce Dinner dressed up like a woman.
712. 46:26I'm racist, you know.
713. 46:28But I also got a new approach to I got Charlie's army and we've got it from here. So
714. 46:34I bless Charlie's family and we love you Bishop. God bless you. Thank you. Thank you so much, Jason. Yeah,
715. 46:41you're right. They see because they really have determined that the charge of racism is the poison
716. 46:47pill. And so they associate anything that they don't like with racism and they slander anybody
717. 46:54that they don't like with the charge of racism.
718. 46:56And that's what they're trying to do to Charlie Kirk.
719. 46:58And it's shameful.
720. 47:01But you know, they're going to, again,
721. 47:03these people better repent
722. 47:04or they're going to answer to God for it.
723. 47:07As you know, I was reading in the book of Proverbs
724. 47:08where it says, he that is glad at calamity
725. 47:11will not go unpunished.
726. 47:13There is going to be a time of reckoning for them.
727. 47:16And I'm not talking about anybody,
728. 47:17any human being doing anything to them.
729. 47:19I'm talking about them answering to Almighty God.
730. 47:23And the word says it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
731. 47:28Okay, let's go to Greg in Tennessee. Greg, welcome.
732. 47:34Hey, brother, Bishop, such a pleasure and joy to hear your voice.
733. 47:38Thank you, sir.
734. 47:42Just miss you, and this is all the time. Appreciate your pursuit of truth.
735. 47:46You're right up there with Charlie Kirk and the pursuit of truth.
736. 47:49Trying to just stand for the truth, continue to stand, brother, and count it all joy.
737. 47:54Count it all, Joy, brother, because God is Charlie Kirk would tell you don't remember a thing about me
738. 48:00He would tell you to remember the one who spoke three words. It is finished
739. 48:07All right, praise God Greg and you hit it that that is so true
740. 48:15Jesus really is the answer and and I am so glad that Charlie Kirk was a Christian
741. 48:21who was constantly telling people, Jesus is the way.
742. 48:24I just talked to good friend Bill Federer today
743. 48:27and he was saying the last communication
744. 48:30he got from Charlie Kirk was a scripture.
745. 48:34That was the last communication he got from him.
746. 48:37And so, and I think it was Romans 828,
747. 48:40we know that all things work together for good
748. 48:42for those who love the Lord and all they're called
749. 48:44according to his purpose.
750. 48:47All right, let's go to Larry in Illinois.
751. 48:50Larry welcome. Good day, Bishop. So great to have you back on
752. 48:56AFR. Wonderful to hear your voice. Thank you from an old army guy. Let me just say, Hey,
753. 49:01Semper Fi. All right. Thank you for your service to that. Hey, I just wanted to let you know,
754. 49:10while I was watching some of these memorial services on television, I'm in Southern Illinois,
755. 49:15and we have a very liberal university near here. And I was surprised to see that there is a chapter
756. 49:21of turning point there and the leader of it was on there uh... you know talking about
757. 49:26well uh... charlie spake and uh... and his conservative values and just glad that there
758. 49:31are some young people today on these liberal universities who are willing to stand up and
759. 49:38be counted so
760. 49:40a man just pray for our youth
761. 49:42amen larry thank you for the call area and you're so right
762. 49:46and you know that and the movement is growing
763. 49:49It's apparently growing exponentially.
764. 49:53And you know, again, this is the Lord's doing,
765. 49:57and it is marvelous in our eyes
766. 49:59because I listened to Charlie Kirk enough
767. 50:03and new people who knew him enough
768. 50:04to know that Charlie Kirk's really a pretty special guy,
769. 50:07pretty extraordinary to start this thing at 18 years old.
770. 50:11I mean, went behind the years,
771. 50:13but had enough energy and enough vision
772. 50:16and really started, I turned to faith
773. 50:18After you started turning point USA and that sort of revolutionized the whole thing, so he was really a pretty special person
774. 50:24I don't know that they'll find another Charlie Kirk
775. 50:27But I think this movement is being directed by the hand of God and that is what is keeping it going and what's causing it to just
776. 50:34Continue to continue to explode and praise God for it. All right. Let's see
777. 50:41We've got time. Let's go to Barbara in Texas Barbara. Welcome
778. 50:46Well thank you. Thank you so much for running for president. I talked to you before you ran
779. 50:53and pointed out the fact that you know what the Bible says about immigration when Moses
780. 51:00had that problem. He asked the Lord what to do about the immigrants and the Lord told
781. 51:05him be compassionate but never, never, ever worshiped their God. And I believe that your
782. 51:10message got through because you responded with not only they but to the fifth generation
783. 51:16they shouldn't be able to vote.
784. 51:18Or, and that's my translation,
785. 51:21if don't worship their guns,
786. 51:23you come over here, you live by our rule.
787. 51:26And I really believe that you got through,
788. 51:29you did a lot of good while you were written for president.
789. 51:32And I appreciate that.
790. 51:35Well Barbara, thank you so much for that.
791. 51:36That's very encouraging because you know,
792. 51:39the media, the mainstream media completely shut me out.
793. 51:43I mean, I would do interviews and they would never air them.
794. 51:46I would go places where I would speak with other candidates
795. 51:50and they would air the other candidates wouldn't air me.
796. 51:53And I think it was, it wasn't had nothing to do
797. 51:55with the color of my skin.
798. 51:57It had to do with the biblical worldview
799. 51:59that I was espousing because I was the only candidate
800. 52:02in the race who was espousing a biblical worldview.
801. 52:05And I always say, that's why I ran.
802. 52:07I ran to bring God into the picture,
803. 52:10to make sure that everyone understands.
804. 52:13I believe that the true secret of America's success
805. 52:17is our godly heritage.
806. 52:19I really believe that's it.
807. 52:21You know, I was thinking about with all this stuff
808. 52:22with these countries declaring a Palestinian state
809. 52:25and recognizing a Palestinian state,
810. 52:27America was the first state in the nation,
811. 52:30first country in the world to recognize Israel in 1948.
812. 52:34And that was a Democrat, Harry Truman.
813. 52:37And we are standing almost alone
814. 52:41in refusing to recognize a Palestinian state
815. 52:44on the land that God gave to Israel.
816. 52:47Folks, this is a major part of why we are so blessed.
817. 52:52And it's that biblical, godly worldview
818. 52:57that has stood us in good stead.
819. 52:58It's certainly not because we're perfect people.
820. 53:00I mean, we have sinned in our country
821. 53:03in a variety of ways individually and collectively,
822. 53:06but I really believe God has shown us grace
823. 53:09Because of the foundational principles that were laid down at the very beginning of this country,
824. 53:15the James Town settlement, the Mayflower Compact, the Declaration of Independence,
825. 53:20every single one of these documents, if you will, and these agreements were covenants with one another and with Almighty God.
826. 53:29And I think that's what made the difference and continues to make the difference, and we can't let anybody take that away from us.
827. 53:36I think Charlie Kirk has really advanced the ball frankly, no matter what they say about
828. 53:40it.
829. 53:41I stand with Charlie Kirk in the name of Jesus.
830. 53:44And I stand with you all.
831. 53:45So God bless you all.
832. 53:46Stand up, step up, speak up, refuse to back up because we cannot be defeated if we will
833. 53:51not quit because we are on God's side.
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