George Barna released a new study that shows Evangelicals are more likely to be shaped by the prevailing culture than we are to influence it.

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21. 1:32And as you make your transition, I want to encourage you to remember the primacy of the
22. 1:39God places on the family.
23. 1:41Before there was ever an order of prophets before, the iterations of modern iterations of
24. 1:47civil government, the first institution that God established was the family with marriage
25. 1:52at the center.
26. 1:54It is very easy, especially during this time where a little something is going to happen
27. 2:01in November. It's easy to become distracted. It's easy to allow what should be prioritized
28. 2:11to be relegated to a second position. I want to encourage you to resist that temptation.
29. 2:17I want to encourage you to make sure that you keep as primary what God has established as
30. 2:23primary. First and foremost, this our personal commitments to the Lord, our personal commitments
31. 2:30to the Lord I've been talking on repeated programs about the significance of living lives of holiness
32. 2:39personally.
33. 2:40We're almost chapter 12 verses 1 and 2.
34. 2:44The Apostle Paul is writing to Christians in Rome saying, do not conform to the world around
35. 2:51you.
36. 2:52And man, what that statement is really, really, really significant when we get into what we're
37. 2:56going to talk about during today's program.
38. 2:58Do not conform to the world around you, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind.
39. 3:03Then you will be able to discern what is the good, acceptable, and perfect will of God.
40. 3:15One of the amazing realities is that the converse is true.
41. 3:19If we profess to be believers, yet we are conformed and conforming to the world, guess what happens?
42. 3:25Our discernment capacity is blunted.
43. 3:33Discernment is not something as optional, something as vitally necessary.
44. 3:37Our first commitment is personally to the Lord.
45. 3:41Secondarily, our most immediate outpost
46. 3:44in which and through which we are to do ministry
47. 3:47is in our families.
48. 3:50I'm not ignoring foreign missions,
49. 3:51I'm not ignoring things outside of the home,
50. 3:54but we certainly should not sacrifice our homes
51. 3:56in an effort to win the world.
52. 3:58And too often, too often,
53. 4:00that is exactly, exactly what transpires.
54. 4:03Well, I am here by God's grace
55. 4:06in an effort to help us to recalibrate appropriately.
56. 4:09So we keep the main thing, the main thing
57. 4:10and keep the first thing, the first thing.
58. 4:14So as you make your way home today,
59. 4:16let today be a day, if you've never done this before,
60. 4:21if the words of worshiping the Lord with your family
61. 4:25doesn't resonate with you,
62. 4:26you have no idea how to do that,
63. 4:28let today be the day where you venture out into that.
64. 4:31And it doesn't have to be,
65. 4:34you know, this drawn out liturgical enterprise,
66. 4:37I encourage 10 to 15 minutes, sing a Psalm together, read through the scripture together.
67. 4:43It doesn't even require extensive teaching. It doesn't require extensive, read the scripture
68. 4:48together. Read the scripture together. Pray together and make this a consistent feature
69. 4:55of your daily life. One of the most important things that will be the result of this is that
70. 5:00your family will learn what their priorities should be. We had a lot going on in our families.
71. 5:07But this one thing we need to make sure we don't miss.
72. 5:10We're showing the Lord together.
73. 5:12You've never done it before, let today be the day.
74. 5:13And if you already do it,
75. 5:15by God's grace, do not become weary and well-doing.
76. 5:19Do not become weary and well-doing.
77. 5:20To the Word of God we go.
78. 5:23Matthew chapter five, Matthew chapter five.
79. 5:28Get myself together here.
80. 5:31Matthew chapter five, verses 13 and 14 is where we're gonna go.
81. 5:36go versus 13 through 14. And this is a part of the sermon on the mount, the longest recorded sermon
82. 5:48that Jesus taught. It's a very familiar passage of scripture, but it's one that we should visit
83. 5:58often. And we certainly, we certainly should make a central feature of our lives for a number of
84. 6:08reasons. But one of the most important reasons is that the simplicity of the word of God is
85. 6:16deep when it is applied. The simplicity of the word of God is oceans deep when it is applied.
86. 6:27One of the major reasons for this is that when you read the scripture, you're not merely reading
87. 6:33the scripture. The God of the scripture reads you. The God of the scripture reads me. Matthew
88. 6:4125, Jesus makes these statements.
89. 6:44You are the salt of the earth, but if salt has lost its taste,
90. 6:51how shall its saltiness be restored?
91. 6:55It is no longer good for anything except to be thrown out and trampled under people's
92. 7:00feet.
93. 7:02You are the light of the world.
94. 7:05A city set on the hill cannot be hidden, nor do people light a lamp and put it under a basket
95. 7:11but on a stand and it gives light to all in the house.
96. 7:20In the same way, let your light shine before others
97. 7:22so that they may see your good work
98. 7:24to give glory to your Father who is in heaven.
99. 7:26And I say, verse 13 to 14, I read all the way to 16.
100. 7:29Sorry, Jeff.
101. 7:35The Greek for the word you in verses 13 and 14
102. 7:38is actually plural, all right?
103. 7:41So Jesus in delivering this sermon on the Mount,
104. 7:43he is addressing it to the people who were physically present
105. 7:46before him at that time in the first century,
106. 7:48but its application extends to the people of God today.
107. 7:56Jesus conveys this notion of being the salt of the earth
108. 7:59in a time period that predates the modern wonders
109. 8:02of refrigeration in central air and heat.
110. 8:06Salt served two primary purposes.
111. 8:08It's one served as a preservative agent
112. 8:11for major protein compounds.
113. 8:15In order to preserve fish, that fish in when we catch
114. 8:17they was salted immediately.
115. 8:19Hang it, let it dry, they were preserved various meats
116. 8:21salting it to preserve. An additional component is obviously as a seasoning feature. The question
117. 8:31I want to pose to us rhetorically today concerning the Church of the Living God in America, and I
118. 8:36want everybody to understand that I understand that there's a difference between the Lord's remnant
119. 8:40and the visible professing church in our nation. But concerning the visible professing church in our
120. 8:45nation, have we been salt in light in our nation? Or have we become lightly salted? When Peter
121. 8:58Proclaim the sermon on the day of Pentecost.
122. 9:01You'll find there was no altar call,
123. 9:03there was no invitation to respond.
124. 9:06It was because of the conviction that the Spirit of God
125. 9:09wrought through the preached word that the people responded
126. 9:13in light of what you're saying, Peter.
127. 9:15What must I do to be saved?
128. 9:20We live in a time period.
129. 9:22Well, instead of what must I do to be saved, we have a people saying,
130. 9:26How much can I do and still be saved?
131. 9:31I mean, how close to the line can I get?
132. 9:34And I mean, what exactly is sin anyway Abe?
133. 9:37You know what I mean?
134. 9:38And can it, can it, you know, you know,
135. 9:42you know what I mean, you know, I got a look.
136. 9:44I told you guys that was a real conversation
137. 9:45I had with a person one time.
138. 9:47No, isn't it true Abe that, you know,
139. 9:48you may be godly men, but even godly men
140. 9:50who have wondering eyes, won't they?
141. 9:54I said, no man, I don't see anywhere in scripture
142. 9:57where the Lord uses biology as an excuse to have
143. 10:01lust reflected through your eyes.
144. 10:03How you use them?
145. 10:08No, no, no ma'am.
146. 10:11I'm not trying to condemn anybody, but there's no way
147. 10:14in scripture where you should tolerate certain levels
148. 10:15of worldliness just because we're in the world.
149. 10:23Because when there is a heart of regeneration,
150. 10:27there's a heart that reflects itself.
151. 10:29Now we conduct ourselves, and I'm not saying,
152. 10:31you know, I understand everybody's on their journeys,
153. 10:34at various, various stages of sanctification,
154. 10:36we have to be very intentional about refusing to allow the world to reestablish
155. 10:41for us what our standards should be.
156. 10:42Instead of recognizing God has already told us what our standards should be.
157. 10:47That already told us.
158. 10:49What, what, what our standards should be.
159. 10:53And I know the reality that we're saved by grace through faith.
160. 10:57We have a faith that is not, but we don't enter eternal life through works.
161. 11:03What I am talking about is a people who instead of being the pillar of ground,
162. 11:09pillar and ground of truth in the world, simply put, we become
163. 11:15worldly by and large. I'm going to get to some data later in the
164. 11:21in the program that our brother George Barna just releases 2024
165. 11:26World Inventory Report, where his conclusions are, it's more
166. 11:30likely for professing evangelical Christians to be shaped by the
167. 11:34world and the culture around us that it is for us to shape and to
168. 11:39influence the culture is providing empirical data that
169. 11:46affirms and confirms what many of us experience on a daily basis.
170. 11:50Are we salt and light or have we become lightly salty?
171. 11:59The number of instances where we've seen, and I'm not going to go through some of the greatest hits,
172. 12:09which are not great at all, but the score is a professing
173. 12:13believers and large churches and things that are capitulating to things in the world.
174. 12:18And it's just, it's sobering to read the data
175. 12:27and in reading it immediately,
176. 12:29the Lord will immediately remind me of the scripture.
177. 12:33A city set on the hill cannot be hidden.
178. 12:37You know, the call to be peculiar is not one,
179. 12:40to where we just, let's find out just how different
180. 12:42from everybody else we can be.
181. 12:43That's not the call at all.
182. 12:45The reality is if you've been captured by Christ,
183. 12:47just keep living.
184. 12:49Your peculiarity will be made evident
185. 12:54When you start to hesitate,
186. 12:56and we say, well, sure, well, surely Abe,
187. 12:58I mean, you understand children have to be raised
188. 13:01to reject the gender that they've been assigned at birth.
189. 13:04Well, what would you say?
190. 13:07This is another real conversation I had in a lift.
191. 13:12You know, I don't tend to use Uber as much
192. 13:13if I'm traveling, I use Lyft more than Uber.
193. 13:17I say, right?
194. 13:17The gender assigned at birth,
195. 13:20that's why did you get that terminology from it?
196. 13:21And I look, I know what happened in the culture.
197. 13:22So you know, that's the way we describe it now.
198. 13:25I say, who is we?
199. 13:28That's not how I describe it.
200. 13:33I said, man, do you realize sex?
201. 13:36We talked about that, the difference between using term,
202. 13:38gender to apply to human beings versus inanimate objects.
203. 13:43I said, sex is discernible at a molecular DNA level
204. 13:48that predates birth.
205. 13:51Why do you think, wait for this,
206. 13:53why do you think, who use sonograms?
207. 13:58He was sautograms often to confirm what it is that mommy is carrying in her tummy before the baby is even born
208. 14:04That's not an assignment made at birth and the guy's like oh
209. 14:08I hadn't thought about that and I'm just like what do you mean?
210. 14:11So we'll go off and spout these things and won't even think about what we're spouting
211. 14:21Salt and light are lightly salted the greatest and most enduring need for the United States of America is
212. 14:30Repentance
213. 14:33One of the things we're gonna get into this study,
214. 14:37that Dr. Barna says,
215. 14:39believe is not even endeavoring to share the gospel.
216. 14:42By and large with people who don't agree with him.
217. 14:45Again, I know that's not everybody,
218. 14:48but that's a generalized cumulation
219. 14:51based on his empirical data collection.
220. 14:53We'll get into it, we'll get back.
221. 15:00Deuteronomy six verses four through eight direct us
222. 15:03to display scripture in our homes and other places.
223. 15:07It says you should decorate with the word of God
224. 15:09and that you are to fill your hearts and minds
225. 15:12with these words.
226. 15:13There's no greater cause than for those of us
227. 15:15who know Christ to share Him and God's word.
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232. 15:35Shiting light into the darkness,
233. 15:37this is the Hamilton Corner,
234. 15:39on American Family Radio.
235. 15:41Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton.
236. 15:44The third here.
237. 15:52Got a lot on my heart today, man.
238. 15:53A lot on my mind.
239. 15:54I'm processing things as I'm speaking on the air.
240. 15:59We're at a pretty significant juncture.
241. 16:02We're at a very, very significant juncture
242. 16:04in our nation's history.
243. 16:09It's now been announced and confirmed that Kamala Harris
244. 16:14will make her first interview appearance.
245. 16:20Oh man. Tomorrow night at 9 p.m. Eastern APM Central Time on CNN. She will not however be
246. 16:31interviewed live. Oh, no, no, no. Can I do that? Can I do that? She also will not be interviewed alone.
247. 16:38Oh, no, she will make a joint appearance with Tim Walz. This will be her first appearance
248. 16:45as a DNC standard bear and she's made the decision to have this prerecorded, certainly campaign approved, video, air tomorrow.
249. 16:59It has not been disclosed when the recording will take place.
250. 17:03There have been lots of people who have said that this certainly doesn't project leadership quality.
251. 17:11is if your first interview is going to be a joint interview.
252. 17:17And there's no problem with joint interviews,
253. 17:22generally speaking, but this is your first one?
254. 17:29And are there any others that are planned?
255. 17:34People in the live stream saying,
256. 17:36we thank you for watching The Force Abe.
257. 17:38Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
258. 17:41I'm here for y'all man, I'm here for you, I'm here for you.
259. 17:46,
260. 17:56, actually I won't be able to watch it live I am going to come and catch it with it later, but I'm not going to watch what you
261. 18:02,
262. 18:05this is not an interview. This is a paid campaign ad.
263. 18:09That boy, y'all is sharp. Y'all is sharp, but it's true.
264. 18:13It's true. So it's not going to be live as prerecorded.
265. 18:15I guess she didn't want another one of those Lester Holt moments when
266. 18:20you haven't been to the border. I haven't been to the border.
267. 18:24And I haven't been to Europe. What is what is
268. 18:34this is one of the things I'm processing, guys.
269. 18:36I've said it before and I'll say it again,
270. 18:40Regressives despise the American people.
271. 18:43So you have the reality of according to the prevailing
272. 18:53narrative, right?
273. 18:55You have the most popular president in American
274. 18:57electoral history.
275. 19:00According to the reports of 81 million votes,
276. 19:02this is the objective facts.
277. 19:05The 81 million vote total is the largest vote total
278. 19:09of any American presidential candidate in our nation's history.
279. 19:14You have that popular president who had his entire campaign largely from his basement,
280. 19:22square that circle for me, if you will, who then was observed by Nancy Pelosi saying she's
281. 19:29never been impressed by his election operation.
282. 19:32Hmm.
283. 19:34Again, square that circle for me.
284. 19:37Then got another nearly 15 million votes in the Democratic primary process.
285. 19:43One that the Democrats were feverishly to keep RFK junior away from as well as any other candidate.
286. 19:49And then when the world learned what they all knew for years that the man did not have the capacity to do the job of the president,
287. 20:02that they dispatched him quickly and installed the selected candidate.
288. 20:08I believe by and large the major reason why is financial because of the federal elections rules that she was the only one
289. 20:16that would have access to all of the money that was raised under the proverbial Biden-Harris campaign.
290. 20:23But yeah, I mean, people ask, you mean to tell me Biden's vote total is more than Obama's vote total?
291. 20:28Yes. Yes. Go on, look it up for yourselves. Yes. So she is installed as a nominee
292. 20:39and commences to refuse to have any public engagement at all. Fodz, no need to explain anything
293. 20:48to any of the American people, as I mentioned to you, early voting is already for all intents
294. 20:54and purposes underway, literally days from now, early voting begins in some states.
295. 20:58So, for people to say, yeah, this is an interview and a run-up to the election, the election has
296. 21:05started, folks.
297. 21:06We realized this.
298. 21:07I said, no, I don't need to interview you.
299. 21:11I don't need to interview you.
300. 21:12I played the audio for you earlier.
301. 21:14I mean, maybe I'm an ass, Jeff, and we could pull that back up.
302. 21:18We played it Monday.
303. 21:19We didn't play yesterday, but it's not on the rundown right now.
304. 21:22I'm asking, we can find it.
305. 21:23I played it Monday, but she had one of our surrogates.
306. 21:26Who came out and said, oh, no, no.
307. 21:27We think it's the winning strategy for her as a Democrat.
308. 21:30She didn't need to be the one explaining her policies.
309. 21:32Let the journalists explain their policies.
310. 21:40That's the winning strategy for us.
311. 21:42What?
312. 21:45And then you have a pretty significant
313. 21:46contingent of Americans that are like, yeah.
314. 21:49I'm like, y'all are cool with that?
315. 21:51You don't find it the least bit disturbing,
316. 21:55yet you have a person vying to be the next holder
317. 21:58of the nuclear codes for our nation
318. 22:00and don't feel obligated to talk to the American public.
319. 22:10Yeah, some states start early voting early September.
320. 22:14There's some depending on mailing balance
321. 22:15and other kind of stuff that may start slightly early,
322. 22:17but yeah, early voting is about to start in some states.
323. 22:21We've gone from election day to election season, you see.
324. 22:28And in our first interview is gonna be pre-taped.
325. 22:36And part of the reason why I'm wrestling through this
326. 22:40is that the political calculation that they're making
327. 22:43is that the body politic in America
328. 22:44has devolved as such a degree
329. 22:46to where the people won't demand more.
330. 22:49The people won't demand more from those who would be,
331. 22:55when's the last time you heard this phrase, public servants.
332. 23:00Y'all got it?
333. 23:01Now, I'm sorry, I didn't give them any advanced warning that I wanted to do this.
334. 23:10Which one is it, Jeff?
335. 23:12Seven.
336. 23:13All right.
337. 23:14Clip number seven.
338. 23:16Go.
339. 23:17Talking about policy.
340. 23:18In fact, I think vice president Harris has been incredibly brave to roll out an ambitious
341. 23:23economic agenda because we all know how this works.
342. 23:26The more details you share, the more your policies are going to get picked apart.
343. 23:30But she's saying, I trust the American people.
344. 23:32I trust the journalists to explain these policies and our values to folks.
345. 23:38And I think when that happens, it will be successful for Democrats.
346. 23:42These are very pro-worker, pro-middle class policies that people have been waiting for.
347. 23:47You get that?
348. 23:48Oh, shit, I need to explain it to anybody.
349. 23:52I trust you people can figure it out.
350. 23:56I trust the journalists to explain it for me.
351. 24:04And has our populace degraded to the place to where the people, sure, that's fine.
352. 24:11Sure.
353. 24:12That is outrageous.
354. 24:16That is outrageous.
355. 24:22And I'm thinking about the dumbing down of our society consistently, irrepressibly, continually.
356. 24:32We've gone from a nation of producers to a nation of consumers.
357. 24:39Is that truly a reflection and accurate, a reflection of where we are?
358. 24:43Again, I'm not trying to paint with a broad brush.
359. 24:45I know there are exceptions.
360. 24:46I know that does not apply to the people in this audience,
361. 24:49but I'm talking about beyond this audience.
362. 25:01That is, that is amazing.
363. 25:07And so you have this recorded interview,
364. 25:14can't get caught saying anything live, you know?
365. 25:18And I understand the reality of campaigning.
366. 25:19I'm talking beyond campaigning.
367. 25:20I'm talking about, you know, maybe something wrong with me,
368. 25:24but I appreciate people who wanna be serpent leaders
369. 25:28country who have some type of investment, some type of skin in the game, so to speak,
370. 25:33to interact with the American people. Not not. Don't appear to be very interested in that.
371. 25:45So that'll be tomorrow. And soon thereafter, September 10th is supposed to be the first debate
372. 25:55between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. But Kamala Harris is now squawking about the rules for the
373. 26:03the debate that she agreed to now says she wants to change the rules. You know, you can't make this
374. 26:09stuff up. You know, I could be wrong, but what I think is happening is that trying to have as
375. 26:15little exposure to the American people as possible, because they know as well as we do that this is
376. 26:23a repeat of the basement Biden strategy. You know, in the 2020 election, Schmovet was the reason for
377. 26:32the basement by the Biden strategy, right? What's the reason now? What's the reason now? I'm gonna
378. 26:42to move on because I feel myself getting worked up.
379. 26:48If you're watching this show, I'm holding in my hands the report from my brother, Dr.
380. 26:53George Barna, Director of Research from the Cultural Research Center at Arizona Christian
381. 26:57University.
382. 27:00This is another piece of information that is concerning to me.
383. 27:10Dr. Barna is a researcher.
384. 27:12In my view, the most reliable researcher, poll taker, statistician in our country is a blessing
385. 27:23to the nation.
386. 27:24He's a blessing to the body of Christ.
387. 27:27And he's willing to boldly assess where others are willing to just tip toe to kind of,
388. 27:31kind of, through the tulip, so to speak.
389. 27:36His American worldview in of inventory.
390. 27:38Can I say the word inventory?
391. 27:40His American worldview inventory.
392. 27:44Not good news.
393. 27:47good news, not good news. In his inventory, he discusses how events from recent years have
394. 27:56caused millions of Americans to realize just how depraved American society has become corrupt
395. 28:03politicians, dishonest journalists and media outlets broken social institutions, immoral
396. 28:09religious leaders, unconstitutional government programs, policies, and more have generated nonstop
397. 28:15headlines highlighting the decadence of American society and the demise of the United States.
398. 28:23He goes on to contain, quote, the depth of the depravity is shocking and it is indisputable
399. 28:31that the decline is a direct result of the collapse, the spiritual collapse of Christianity
400. 28:37in the nation, particularly in the way in which the evangelical community has changed over time.
401. 28:47Now, a clip of Dr. Barnard describing the result of his study, this is clip number five.
402. 28:59Go.
403. 29:00So, when we look at what evangelicals do and believe, yeah, they get some of the big picture
404. 29:08things that the Bible teaches.
405. 29:10And so, they'll believe in the biblical notion of God.
406. 29:14They will believe that God is the basis of all truth.
407. 29:18They'll believe that the purpose of life is to know love and serve God with all their
408. 29:22heart, mind, strength and soul.
409. 29:24They believe the universe was created by God.
410. 29:27They believe in the reality of Jesus Christ that he lived on earth.
411. 29:32They believe that Satan exists.
412. 29:34So they get those things.
413. 29:36But once you get away from those kind of Sunday school 101 teachings, that's where things get
414. 29:43pretty murky.
415. 29:44And so when we start talking about the nature of moral truth, when we start talking about
416. 29:50the application of moral truth, when we start talking about our responsibility to other people
417. 29:57in terms of sharing the gospel, what is the gospel?
418. 30:01Did Jesus live a sinless life?
419. 30:04These are things that don't get talked about quite as much in our churches, and those are
420. 30:08kinds of issues that relate to not only our lives, but also the political issues of the
421. 30:15day when we look at issues such as abortion, transgenderism and so forth. That's where evangelicals
422. 30:23really struggled to make the connection between biblical truth. Who am I in America? What's
423. 30:29my influence supposed to be here if I'm trying to honor Christ and advance His kingdom?
424. 30:35I want to ask, can we make sure we have a link to Dr. Barna's study in the show notes because
425. 30:42I want everybody have access to this study.
426. 30:46One of the major observations he made was that most of the prevailing researchers put the number
427. 30:53of evangelical Christians at about 40% of the American population to somewhat close to 100
428. 30:59million Americans.
429. 31:00Dr. Barna says, when you dig deeper than superficial assessments and you start to evaluate solely
430. 31:08answers to more detailed theological questions that number may be closer to only 10% of the
431. 31:16population.
432. 31:17So that's a major observation because I've said it, many of you have said it, that man,
433. 31:25it seems like the law is church and I'm in our country, not as big as most people think
434. 31:28it is.
435. 31:31It says when you come to just having an orthodox belief system, it's really only about 10% of
436. 31:36the population that has an orthodox belief system.
437. 31:39Notice, I didn't say a biblical worldview because those numbers plummet even more.
438. 31:46He's just saying they know those basic Sunday school answers, but the real problem comes
439. 31:53in when you actually apply God's Word.
440. 31:58Because you have some who will give the Sunday school textbook answer responses, but then
441. 32:02when you start applying that.
442. 32:04So, for example, if marriage is exclusive union between one man and one woman, then by
443. 32:09by implication is a homosexual person,
444. 32:14sinful and going to hell unless they repent.
445. 32:19According to Dr. Barnard, many of the responses are,
446. 32:21oh well geez, I mean, I don't know.
447. 32:24What's the definition of is?
448. 32:29You can't set this election out.
449. 32:30I know a lot of Christians do.
450. 32:32This is true that God is sovereign.
451. 32:33I tell you that all the time.
452. 32:35But they fancy that somehow that is separate
453. 32:37from their personal responsibility.
454. 32:40We are his hands and feet.
455. 32:42And so that's why we have to do what's right.
456. 32:44The Bible says to him that Noah could do good
457. 32:48and just doesn't do it.
458. 32:49To him it is sin.
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464. 33:14Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner.
465. 33:15And of course, I mentioned, you know, homosexuality just as one of the issues.
466. 33:20The Bible is clear, you know, heterosexual fornication, adultery,
467. 33:25thievery murder before litany.
468. 33:28But you don't have cultural protestation to these other areas.
469. 33:31And this is what Dr.
470. 33:32Marner was pointing out.
471. 33:34And then the sum total of his assessments, assessment is that as things
472. 33:39stand currently, that is more likely that professing evangelicals would to be
473. 33:44shaped by the culture, then it is to influence the culture.
474. 33:49One of the observations that was just from the,
475. 33:56from the world we study, Dr. Barna says,
476. 34:02the research shows that evangelicals are significantly
477. 34:05unlikely to speak to people who hold different opinions
478. 34:08than them, which includes unlikely to share the gospel.
479. 34:19Sharing the gospel is kind of the root word
480. 34:23of being evangelical, you know, evangelism, evangelize, that there's been a reduction in
481. 34:39the willingness to share the gospel concerning the impact this lack of spiritual engagement
482. 34:47is having on our current cultural climate.
483. 34:50Dr. Barnard says that it has allowed the media to become the evangelists of America, rather
484. 34:58than disciples of Jesus being the evangelist of America.
485. 35:02It's the disciples of Jesus who are called to go out
486. 35:04and do everything that we can to share the love
487. 35:07and saving grace of Jesus with lost sinners.
488. 35:09But in reality, what's happening is that there is now
489. 35:12an evangelistic vacuum in American society
490. 35:16where both evangelicals and the rest of society
491. 35:20are taking their cues from the media.
492. 35:25It's by the way, I don't know if you noticed this yet,
493. 35:27but one of the major voices, sorry, major forces
494. 35:30that is attempting to silence Christianity in the country
495. 35:37is the medium.
496. 35:40And that hit me, that hit me like a ton of bricks.
497. 35:46That hit me like a ton of bricks.
498. 35:49And again, I wanna reiterate the fact
499. 35:50that I know this is not everybody.
500. 35:51I know there's a remnant,
501. 35:53but this is a question that I ask often,
502. 35:55when was the last time you shared the gospel
503. 35:56with an unbeliever?
504. 36:00When's the last time?
505. 36:02Are we still, and I know there's some,
506. 36:04I know brothers who go door to door sharing the gospel.
507. 36:06I know there are some, but we need more.
508. 36:11God places bride in the church to be salt and light.
509. 36:17Not to be lightly salted, man.
510. 36:19In an effort to, there's so much more in this.
511. 36:24That's why I posted the show notes that I could spend four shows in a row just going data entry
512. 36:30point by data entry point by data entry point showing you the percentages showing you the
513. 36:33numbers at where we are in the state of affairs in our nation.
514. 36:40We haven't gotten here overnight.
515. 36:41has been the product of a combination of disobedience and negligence over time over time.
516. 37:02That's heavy. That's heavy. I shared with you yesterday that
517. 37:11the State of Oregon has a taxpayer funded grant program where they want to provide $30,000
518. 37:20down payment assistance to, but it only it's only available to non-US citizens.
519. 37:26not to be outdone the state of California right on their heels. They have various programs
520. 37:35at the state level. They want to expand the programs to now allow additional homebuyer
521. 37:41assistance in the state of California to illegal aliens. At the exact same time, there's a fight
522. 37:48happening in Congress over the Save Act. Save Act simply says illegal aliens cannot vote
523. 37:57in federal elections. The response there is often where illegal aliens already cannot
524. 38:03vote federal elections, which I would simply say, and what's the problem?
525. 38:07If they're not voting, then what's the problem with passing the laws?
526. 38:10Make sure they're not voting.
527. 38:12If they're not voting.
528. 38:14If they're not voting.
529. 38:16Now again, square the circle.
530. 38:20We have all these programs like Oregon and California, and that's just a couple of states
531. 38:24I'm highlighting.
532. 38:27And you determined whether or not a program that's providing $30,000 in down payment assistance
533. 38:32exclusively for non-US citizens with that incentivized or disincentivized illegal immigration.
534. 38:39would it make him want to come or not want to come? All right. Oh goodness gracious.
535. 38:55I know we're coming to the end of the end of the program but this is, can I make this stuff up?
536. 39:02Many of you are aware that yesterday, Jack Smith, into this superseding indictment concerning
537. 39:13President Trump in January 6th, it's the same fact pattern, it's the same for alleged offenses.
538. 39:24It is obvious that Jack Smith is attempting to a side step, the U.S. Supreme Court's decision
539. 39:32in Trump versus U.S. concerning presidential immunity where the Supreme Court, in my view,
540. 39:37got it absolutely correct.
541. 39:40U.S. presidents, and this is where we have to have mature, objective, and wise citizens,
542. 39:46because this is something that has to do with the office of the presidency.
543. 39:50It's not confined to an individual.
544. 39:54So this would apply to all US presidents, okay?
545. 40:01Supreme Court simply concluded that official actions taken by president during his time
546. 40:06of office are immune from criminal prosecution, absolutely immune.
547. 40:14Non-official acts, private acts, don't.
548. 40:18That is the proper reading of the US Constitution.
549. 40:21Not saying anything you do ever for the rest of your life, you're immune from prosecution.
550. 40:25No.
551. 40:26official acts taking an office because our founders envisioned an energetic executive fulfilling
552. 40:31His constitutionally mandated duties in article two of the u.s. Constitution. All right
553. 40:42So a lot of people asked me about this case
554. 40:46And I'll say it here just like I said in other places. I really think Jack Smith is trying to save face
555. 40:51You know
556. 40:52Because the facts are still the same one of the major is it's nine pages shorter than indictment is one of the major differences
557. 41:00is that it no longer includes Mr. Clark,
558. 41:03who was the Department of Justice official,
559. 41:05who Jack Smith denied it initially,
560. 41:07along with former President Trump,
561. 41:09because Jack Smith, as a member of the Department of Justice,
562. 41:12was working with President Trump.
563. 41:14He gives the indication he's operating
564. 41:17in a government capacity because a president
565. 41:21has a vested interest to ensure the lawful discharge
566. 41:26of federal elections.
567. 41:29Guess who is tasked ultimately with the enforcement
568. 41:33of federal law, the president,
569. 41:37guess who's tasked with enforcement of the US Constitution?
570. 41:41Guess who takes an oath to protect
571. 41:42and defend the Constitution, the president?
572. 41:48So, what Jack Smith is attempting to do
573. 41:49is to edit the indictment to say
574. 41:53that all of these things that he's attempting
575. 41:56to accuse President Trump of were pursued
576. 41:59in his personal capacity and has no bearing
577. 42:01on his official capacity.
578. 42:03That's what he's attempting to communicate,
579. 42:05which I think he's going to have a difficult time articulating because he just presents
580. 42:09another opportunity for the argument made by Justice Clarence Thomas in his concurring
581. 42:14opinion to be brought to the fore. The exact same argument that Judge Eileen can and adopted
582. 42:18when dismissing Jack Smith's documents case against President Trump. Justice Thomas raised
583. 42:26the issue that Article 2, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution includes the Appointments
584. 42:31Clause that we have a constitutional process that includes a U.S. Senate for the appointment
585. 42:36of a federal office has that process been followed with the appointment of the special
586. 42:44prosecutor's office currently.
587. 42:48The answer to that is obvious.
588. 42:50Someone said, well, hey, how is this different from other special counsel?
589. 42:53When you have the attorney general who's been appointed by the U.S. president confirmed
590. 42:59by the Senate, that process is followed when one of his lower level U.S. attorneys, because
591. 43:06you have the Attorney General who is the head of the Department of Justice, you have US
592. 43:11attorneys in each of the states when they are used as special prosecutors that would flow
593. 43:18from the appointment.
594. 43:20So, it presents an opportunity for that issue to come forward.
595. 43:27Now, the other thing that is just noteworthy is that there's no way any of this stuff is
596. 43:33going to be addressed before November 4th.
597. 43:36And in my view, it's just the X-Men trying to say face.
598. 43:39He wants to keep the issue up during this election season.
599. 43:43It's kind of like, oh, I'm not going home yet.
600. 43:45It's kind of like that.
601. 43:48You know.
602. 43:50And it's just the thing that's really weighing on me, man,
603. 43:55it's just the deterioration of our body politic.
604. 43:59You know, our people, it bothers me.
605. 44:04How many regular people I meet on the street,
606. 44:05they have no clue what our US Constitution is
607. 44:07nor what it says.
608. 44:09It bothers me.
609. 44:10When you recognize that our founders
610. 44:13drafted the constitution to be digested at a level,
611. 44:17to be conversation fodder at dinner tables
612. 44:20between moms and their children.
613. 44:26And yet we're at a,
614. 44:31you ever see these men on street interviews?
615. 44:32I randomly do my own men on the street interviews.
616. 44:36I just talk to people,
617. 44:37hey man, what do you think about what's going on here?
618. 44:40You know, maybe I might need to bring this to the show, Jeff.
619. 44:44Maybe you start recording some of these things.
620. 44:47You know.
621. 44:48Hey, you know what's going on in November?
622. 44:50Yeah, yeah, we got an election.
623. 44:53I'm voting for Trump.
624. 44:55Man, can you tell me why?
625. 44:58I'm voting for, can you tell me, I'm voting for Kamala.
626. 45:00Can you tell me why?
627. 45:03Oh, yeah, me.
628. 45:08The number of people I run into who I've met
629. 45:11who don't even know that Kamala Harris
630. 45:13is Vice President now bothers me.
631. 45:20Then you have that as a civic assessment,
632. 45:21and then you come into Barna Studies saying,
633. 45:23hey, you know, it's more likely
634. 45:24that evangelicals are being shaped by the culture
635. 45:26instead of influencing it.
636. 45:28You can see it's kind of a bookends, you know, sandwich bread, you know.
637. 45:38Like, come on, man, where are we?
638. 45:41But thanks be to God that He warned us and He is faithful to uphold us even in the face
639. 45:49of all of these shenanigans and the transpiring.
640. 45:54To my encouragement to you is very similar to what I've said repeatedly that you don't
641. 46:00forfeit your own communities, your own neighborhoods.
642. 46:02Man, you're listening to me now.
643. 46:05Serve your families well.
644. 46:08If you're a parent, if you have young children in your home,
645. 46:10proclaim the gospel to your children.
646. 46:12Make sure your children understand the gospel.
647. 46:18Make sure you understand the gospel.
648. 46:19Make sure we understand the gospel.
649. 46:21Proclaim it regularly.
650. 46:24One of the great aspects of teaching
651. 46:25is we demonstrate to our children
652. 46:27what Christ Father looks like.
653. 46:28Man, take them with you.
654. 46:30And share the gospel with your neighbor.
655. 46:31Obviously, if it's safe,
656. 46:32don't put your children in danger.
657. 46:34I'm not saying that.
658. 46:37But get to know your neighbors,
659. 46:39share with them the love of Christ,
660. 46:40show them the hospitality that flows
661. 46:42from the love of God.
662. 46:46But God's grace man, the Lord can have an outpouring
663. 46:48of his spirit right in your own community,
664. 46:50right in your own neighborhood.
665. 46:52I share with you guys my story.
666. 46:53I knew nothing about conservative politics.
667. 47:00What I knew is that God saved me.
668. 47:03And he laid out standards that I was to ascribe to
669. 47:07because he'd captured me.
670. 47:09He'd capture my soul.
671. 47:12I shared with I shared years ago about not killing the baby
672. 47:15because babies are,
673. 47:18bearers of God's image.
674. 47:22You can learn a lot about a person
675. 47:25when you consider how they view and treat
676. 47:28the most vulnerable among us,
677. 47:31the most innocent among us.
678. 47:37The guy in the conversation with the guy,
679. 47:38you knew I'm more,
680. 47:39you know, I got a vote for the black woman.
681. 47:40I said, wait a minute, now wait.
682. 47:43Now do you think,
683. 47:44you know, use that term when they, you know,
684. 47:46do you think skin color based partiality is bad or not?
685. 47:49What do you mean?
686. 47:50Let me ask you this question.
687. 47:51What do you have to go to?
688. 47:52Man, I'm only gonna fight and vote for Trump if he's white
689. 47:55because I'm voting for the white guy, white man all the time.
690. 47:57No, so you try to twist my words, hey,
691. 47:59but I try to twist your words.
692. 48:01I'm just saying if it works for you,
693. 48:02why can't it work in the opposite direction?
694. 48:03If it works, what if it's wrong?
695. 48:07That's the man that's wrong,
696. 48:08this wrong should be wrong all the time, shouldn't it?
697. 48:15Mm-mm, mm-mm.
698. 48:16This is where we are, folks.
699. 48:19But it's not a time to be despondent.
700. 48:25It's time to remain confident in the King of glory.
701. 48:27Let us be about our father's business.
702. 48:29As much as it pertains to you and me, let's be about our father's business.
703. 48:39The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American
704. 48:43Family Association or American Family Radio.