October 9, 2026 · 50:44

("Best-of" Edition from 9/9) Delano Squires returns to “The Corner” to discuss The Vanishing Black Family.

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0:00 - 15:00. Acts 23:10-22. May God give us eyes and hearts discern. 15:00 - 31:00. Delano Squires returns to “The Corner” to discuss The Vanishing Black Family. 31:00 - 48:00. Welfare and feminism have made marriage optional and children vulnerable. How did this happen?

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  1. 0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
  2. 0:03It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
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  10. 0:28And now, the Hamilton Corner.
  11. 0:31Good evening everyone.
  12. 0:34Welcome to the Hamilton Corner.
  13. 0:35Abraham Hamilton the third is my name.
  14. 0:38I am the host of the program joined by the Corner contingent right across from me, my
  15. 0:42man, 100 grand Mr. Bobby.
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  18. 0:55The Rio J. Mack, ladies and gentlemen, and we are ready to rock and roll with today's
  19. 0:59edition of the program at this very moment many of you if not most of you are making your
  20. 1:04transition from your part time jobs where you generate an income to your full time jobs where
  21. 1:09you cultivate an outcome and as you do so I want to remind you to do so with intentionality
  22. 1:16understanding the primacy that God places on family. Yes the primacy that God places on family
  23. 1:24and among the many things I'm thankful for I am thankful for the one man
  24. 1:28on the jury in Massachusetts that says,
  25. 1:34I don't care how much you guys harp on this.
  26. 1:36There's no way I am going to agree to allow a woman
  27. 1:42who unquestionably strangled three of her own children
  28. 1:46to death to escape criminal responsibility for that.
  29. 1:51What will happen here after I cannot tell you,
  30. 1:53but what I can tell you is that if you ever have a question
  31. 1:57can one person make a difference?
  32. 1:59That's one real time example for you.
  33. 2:02I mean, I can't get over one, how quickly
  34. 2:07several of the women who are on the jury are giving interviews.
  35. 2:10And one woman literally had to audacity to say,
  36. 2:12well, this one man, he was so arrogant.
  37. 2:14He wouldn't listen to anything we had to say.
  38. 2:16He just could not get past the fact
  39. 2:19that the murderer violently murdered
  40. 2:24her three little children.
  41. 2:26Yeah, yeah, that's kind of the point.
  42. 2:28It's kind of the point.
  43. 2:29It shouldn't be kind of hard to get past that.
  44. 2:32When you have the evidence that there is no disagreement
  45. 2:35or debate as to whether that has transpired.
  46. 2:38It's amazing, but it's yet again an example
  47. 2:41of the fact that one person can make a difference.
  48. 2:47It's amazing that we're having these conversations.
  49. 2:51The family is central to God's plan for his kingdom.
  50. 2:55Central, not peripheral, but the enemy works over time
  51. 3:00to cause us to succumb to notions that allow us to practically treat the family as if it
  52. 3:08is peripheral.
  53. 3:09We put all kinds of other things before it.
  54. 3:13We have all kinds of things have priority and preeminence in our lives.
  55. 3:21But the principle reality, the most immediate external location for our fidelity to God must
  56. 3:29be our families.
  57. 3:32I don't know this man and I hope he stays anonymous, you know,
  58. 3:38cause you can see just as well as I can see,
  59. 3:41if this man comes out and people are getting to know who he is,
  60. 3:44what will his life be like in Massachusetts?
  61. 3:47Let me remind you that this trial took place in the suburb of Boston.
  62. 3:53All right.
  63. 3:55The man just went about his duty.
  64. 3:57Is it not?
  65. 3:59Okay.
  66. 3:59I don't care how much y'all talk, how much y'all go through it.
  67. 4:02And for that activity, man, it was heroic.
  68. 4:06He was a hero. It's amazing that this is where we are.
  69. 4:12Looking forward to having a conversation this evening on the program.
  70. 4:16Thank you to each and every one of you for allowing us to be a part of your day.
  71. 4:19We do not take that for granted. When I say we, I'm speaking for our team here on
  72. 4:23the Hamilton corner, that there are so many different places where you could be
  73. 4:26spending this time, so many different voices, Vi, for your attention and access
  74. 4:30to your heart and to your minds, but you allowing us to contribute to your day.
  75. 4:34We greatly appreciate that. To the word of God, we go, I want to jump into this
  76. 4:37because I don't want to run out of time.
  77. 4:39As I was preparing for today's program,
  78. 4:41the Lord brought the scripture to mind in Acts 23.
  79. 4:44And the verses we're going to read are verses 10 through 22,
  80. 4:48but I want to explain a little bit of the context,
  81. 4:52because here the Apostle Paul that had made his way to Jerusalem,
  82. 4:56where he had already been warned prophetically,
  83. 4:58that if you headed to Jerusalem, you're going to be bound
  84. 5:00to which the Apostle Paul said to those weeping elders from Ephesus,
  85. 5:03I'm not only willing to be bound for the cause of Christ,
  86. 5:06I'm willing to even give my very life.
  87. 5:09Well, things transpire as the Apostle Paul expected
  88. 5:13when he gets to Jerusalem.
  89. 5:16There were some Jews who had traveled there
  90. 5:18even from Ephesus, including those from Ephesus,
  91. 5:21to stir up the crowd, basically to seek to kill the Apostle Paul.
  92. 5:26And we're gonna see that they whipped the crowd
  93. 5:29into a frenzy turning the crowd into a mob
  94. 5:32right there in Jerusalem.
  95. 5:35Now pick up at verse 10 and I want to make some points from the text after we read it
  96. 5:41together.
  97. 5:42And this is what the scripture says.
  98. 5:43Acts 23 verse 10.
  99. 5:46This is what the text says.
  100. 5:47And when the dissension became violent, when the dissension became violent, the tribune
  101. 5:53we know was Claudius Lisius verse 26 in the very next chapter gives us his name.
  102. 5:59Sorry, verse 26 in this chapter gives us his name.
  103. 6:02The tribune was Claudius Lisius.
  104. 6:06When the dissension became violent, the tribune afraid that Paul would be torn to pieces by
  105. 6:11them, commanded the soldiers to go down and take him away from among the people by force,
  106. 6:17and bring him into the barracks.
  107. 6:19The following night the Lord stood by Paul.
  108. 6:22The Apostle Paul said, Take courage for as you have testified to the facts about me in Jerusalem,
  109. 6:29so you must testify also in Rome.
  110. 6:33When it was day, the Jews made a plot and bound themselves by an oath neither to eat nor drink till they had killed Paul.
  111. 6:40There were more than forty who made this conspiracy.
  112. 6:45They went to the chief priests and elders and said we have strictly bound ourselves by an oath to taste no food till we have killed Paul.
  113. 6:51Now therefore you, along with the council, give notice to the Tribune to bring him down to you, as though you were going to determine his case more exactly.
  114. 7:01and we are ready to kill him before he comes near.
  115. 7:05Now the son of Paul's sister heard of their ambush.
  116. 7:09This is verse 16.
  117. 7:11That's Paul's nephew.
  118. 7:13How many times have you heard sermons about Paul's nephew?
  119. 7:16Paul had a nephew because Paul also had a sister.
  120. 7:20The scripture doesn't name him, but the Bible tells us
  121. 7:23right here in verse 16 of chapter 23 of the book of Acts
  122. 7:27that Paul's nephew heard about the plot.
  123. 7:29Let's get back to the text.
  124. 7:30Now when, sorry.
  125. 7:32Now the son of Paul's sister heard of their ambush.
  126. 7:35So he went and into the barracks and told Paul.
  127. 7:38Paul called one of the centurions and said,
  128. 7:41take this young man to the Tribune
  129. 7:42for he has something to tell him.
  130. 7:45So the Centurion took him and brought him to the Tribune
  131. 7:47and said, Paul, the prisoner called me
  132. 7:50and asked me to bring this young man to you
  133. 7:52as he has something to say to you.
  134. 7:55The Tribune took him by the hand
  135. 7:57and going aside, asked him privately.
  136. 8:00What is it that you have to tell me?
  137. 8:03And he, Paul's nephew said, the Jews have agreed to ask you to bring Paul down to the
  138. 8:07council tomorrow, as though they were going to inquire somewhat more closely about him,
  139. 8:12but do not be persuaded by them, for more than forty of their men are lying in ambush
  140. 8:17for him, who have bound themselves by an oath neither to eat nor drink till they have killed
  141. 8:22him.
  142. 8:23Now they are ready, waiting for your consent.
  143. 8:27So the tribune dismissed the young man, charging him, tell no one that you have informed me
  144. 8:32of these things.
  145. 8:33Now if you keep reading, the scripture then reveals Claudius, Lissius, the Tribune immediately
  146. 8:38in the middle of the night has soldiers escort Paul from Jerusalem off to Caesareaan, Philippi
  147. 8:44that night because of this murderous plot.
  148. 8:47But let's take a few steps back.
  149. 8:49So first in verses 10, in 11, verse 10, verse 10, first, the scripture tells us plainly that
  150. 8:56the mob was whipped up into such a frenzy that they were going to try to rip Paul to
  151. 8:59pieces right there in Jerusalem.
  152. 9:01They were going to try to tear him to pieces.
  153. 9:05This is not hyperbole.
  154. 9:07This is not some game.
  155. 9:08They were going to try to take Paul out there in a mob like fashion.
  156. 9:12I don't mean a mob like, you know, a mob boss.
  157. 9:14I mean, in a vicious, frenzied group of people, murderous group of people.
  158. 9:21It was so intense that the Tribune had to send Roman soldiers in to grab Paul and take
  159. 9:27him into the Roman barracks.
  160. 9:30The following night, verse 11 says,
  161. 9:31the Lord himself stands beside Paul and assures him,
  162. 9:35because you read the previous chapters 22 and 21,
  163. 9:38Paul gave a powerful testimony as to how yeshua saved him
  164. 9:43and revealed himself to him and turned him around.
  165. 9:46And that is what whipped the crowd into a frenzy.
  166. 9:50But the Lord assured him,
  167. 9:51you have testified powerfully to me here in Jerusalem,
  168. 9:54you must do the same in Rome.
  169. 9:56Therefore, you will not lose your life here in Jerusalem.
  170. 10:01So that's the divine revelation of what was going to transpire,
  171. 10:04but then the Lord allows us to see some of the mechanics
  172. 10:07as to how this unfolds.
  173. 10:09Verse 12, then explain some of the Jews conspire together
  174. 10:15and make an oath that we are not gonna eat or drink
  175. 10:18until this dude is dead, until this dude is dead.
  176. 10:23We strictly bound ourselves, but as the Lord would have it,
  177. 10:29Paul's nephew sniffed out the plot, heard about it,
  178. 10:33hurt what was going on.
  179. 10:35So we have two things happening at the same time.
  180. 10:37You have what I would argue is a demonically inspired effort
  181. 10:40to assassinate the Apostle Paul
  182. 10:44because they didn't like what he had to say.
  183. 10:46On the surface, it seems like these
  184. 10:48are just a frenzied mob of Jews.
  185. 10:49But the demonic inspiration was that Satan
  186. 10:52did not want the Lord to minister to the Apostle Paul.
  187. 10:55Any furthering Jerusalem did not want him to make it to Rome.
  188. 11:00Did not want it to happen.
  189. 11:02Wanted to try to short circuit God's will
  190. 11:06and use people to execute the plot.
  191. 11:09I wanna say very similarly,
  192. 11:12I've said on this program before,
  193. 11:14that one of the most amazing realities about our country
  194. 11:18is that the freedom that we've enjoyed
  195. 11:20is something God has used to have the gospel spread
  196. 11:24around the world.
  197. 11:24There have been more people who have carried the gospel
  198. 11:27from our country than any other country
  199. 11:29in the history of the world.
  200. 11:31That was by God's divine design.
  201. 11:36But the enemy does not like it, does not like it.
  202. 11:40So he wants to snuff it out.
  203. 11:42Anyone wants to snuff out the witness of the church in our country.
  204. 11:45To snuff out the witness of the family.
  205. 11:48To remove from the board, if you will, God's designed for the family.
  206. 11:54That's the overarching demonic scheme.
  207. 11:56But we have to be aware of the practical implementation mechanism.
  208. 12:00The practical implementation vehicle.
  209. 12:03Here, the Lord allowed Paul's nephew to be aware of the practical implementation vessel.
  210. 12:09that was these more than 40 Jewish conspirators
  211. 12:12who had placed themselves together.
  212. 12:16So the Lord allows the nephew to gain an audience
  213. 12:18with Claudius Lisius.
  214. 12:20Paul says, man, get down there to the Tribune
  215. 12:22and tell him what you've heard.
  216. 12:25And then sniffing out, if you will, the scheme,
  217. 12:31the Lord allows it to happen.
  218. 12:35Guys, you've heard me say on this program,
  219. 12:36time after time after time after time,
  220. 12:38we will never out-politic, out-vote,
  221. 12:42out-Supreme Court opinion, out-legislated
  222. 12:45policy make the deficiencies that are bound in the home. You've heard me
  223. 12:50explain to you, Satan does not like to contend with full-grown opposition. We see
  224. 12:54evidence of that. There's a prophecy of a deliverer coming to Egypt. What's the
  225. 12:58demonic plan under Pharaoh? Get rid of all the baby boys, right? There's a
  226. 13:03Messiah who's coming and we've explained this on the show before. Not
  227. 13:08only was the prophecy made evident in Israel but remember the wise men from
  228. 13:12the east, the maggots, these are men who are traversing back into Israel from outside of
  229. 13:19Israel saying, whereas he who was born king of the Jews, we understand Herod was appointed,
  230. 13:25but there is one who was born king of the Jews, we saw when his star arose and we have
  231. 13:30followed it to this place.
  232. 13:33But what was the monic plot under Herod?
  233. 13:35Herod let's kill all the baby boys because Satan does not like to contend with foregrown
  234. 13:40opposition so his scheme and plan is to eliminate the opposition in its infancy.
  235. 13:47You've heard me likewise explain. There are three primary institutions that got us established
  236. 13:52to facilitate maximized human flourishing. Those institutions, the family with marriage at the center,
  237. 13:59the church and civil government, but one of them is first. Which one is first?
  238. 14:03It's the family with marriage at the center. What's the demonic scheme? Let us
  239. 14:09Plus, eliminate the family.
  240. 14:14Because if I can eliminate the family,
  241. 14:17there's no question as to what society will face
  242. 14:22and will suffer.
  243. 14:24Guys, we have to understand the plot.
  244. 14:25It's not because, you know, I'm married
  245. 14:27and we got six children that I keep talking about the family.
  246. 14:30The reason why the family is precious to me personally,
  247. 14:33is because the family is precious to God.
  248. 14:35And the God is designed for the family
  249. 14:37to be central to his plan.
  250. 14:41want to have a fortified opposition to the demonic forces at bay, if God can grab a hold
  251. 14:48of us and our families.
  252. 14:49There's no question.
  253. 14:50That's what could happen in our society.
  254. 14:57A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker.
  255. 15:00In the Word of God from Genesis to Revelation, there are many truths, insights and stories
  256. 15:04that help to paint a clear picture, a portrait of sorts of what a man is, a real man.
  257. 15:11They specifically paint a picture of what a godly man is.
  258. 15:14Now I should say very quickly, there's only one man in all of the Word of God that perfectly
  259. 15:19paints such a picture for us.
  260. 15:22That man is, of course, the Lord Jesus Christ.
  261. 15:25He alone stands as our only perfect role model.
  262. 15:29There are though other individual characteristics in some of the other men of the Bible that
  263. 15:34are definitely characteristics to be desired.
  264. 15:36In this day and time, there's a tremendous need in the world for a clear understanding
  265. 15:42of what a real man.
  266. 15:44a godly man really is.
  267. 15:46And there's an outstanding need to paint a picture,
  268. 15:48a portrait of what a godly man looks like
  269. 15:51based on the wisdom of God's precious word.
  270. 16:01Shiting light into the darkness,
  271. 16:03this is the Hamilton Corner, an American family radio.
  272. 16:18Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner,
  273. 16:19Abraham Hamilton III here, delighted to have you here
  274. 16:22with me, I have a brother who I love, appreciate,
  275. 16:26and respect, had the privilege of meeting in person,
  276. 16:30Not too long ago, I've been trying to get him on the show,
  277. 16:31but you know, he's too big time for us now, y'all.
  278. 16:33He didn't, he too big for us now.
  279. 16:35You're publishing new book and everything, you know,
  280. 16:38you acting brand new, I'm joking.
  281. 16:40I'm literally playing the brother we have on the show.
  282. 16:43Today is brother Delano Squires,
  283. 16:46who is a contributor to the Blaze Network.
  284. 16:48You might have heard him or seen him
  285. 16:50on Fearless with Jason Whitlock.
  286. 16:52He writes about culture, family and faith
  287. 16:54for the Blaze News, he's director
  288. 16:56of the Heritage Foundations,
  289. 16:57richard and hell and devolve center for human flourishing
  290. 17:00and as previously written for black and married with kids the root
  291. 17:03the federalist news week
  292. 17:05the american conservative
  293. 17:07the institute for family studies and the green on my guess is none other
  294. 17:10then the lonos choirs alan will think you've joined us here in the program yet
  295. 17:13again
  296. 17:14thank you for having a home and it is it is truly truly my pleasure
  297. 17:19uh... you published a book not too long ago which is one of his near and dear
  298. 17:23to my heart
  299. 17:25that is a part of, in my view,
  300. 17:28one of the things we need to understand and ascertain
  301. 17:31in order to recognize the practical implementation
  302. 17:34of what I would describe frankly as demonic schemes,
  303. 17:37to ensnare God's image bearers
  304. 17:40and to get us to invite counterproductive ideologies
  305. 17:46and then wonder, man, I wonder why things aren't going so well
  306. 17:49when we invite these counterproductive ideologies.
  307. 17:52What I'm talking about is the book that you have just
  308. 17:54Not too long ago published, it's titled
  309. 17:56The Vanishing Black Family, How Welfare and Feminism
  310. 18:00Made Marriage Optional and Children Vulnerable.
  311. 18:06Oh my gosh, when I read the entirety of the title
  312. 18:09and the subtitle, I thought to myself,
  313. 18:11this is exactly what has transpired.
  314. 18:13What was the motivating impetus for you to take on this
  315. 18:18certainly significant, but very, very provoking
  316. 18:23topic of study. Yeah, if you know that the issue of the family and the black family in particular has been something
  317. 18:31conservatives have been talking about for decades, but one of the things that occurred to me and
  318. 18:36particularly after working 15 years in local government in Washington DC is
  319. 18:41That a lot of folks in the center left will talk about racial equity in every structure except family structure
  320. 18:48Mm-hmm and and doing my research I found
  321. 18:50this is per the CDC in 2023 in Washington DC, 77% of black children were born out of wedlock. 77.
  322. 19:01So that's the most important for every five. Correct. Now for context, 93% of white children DC were
  323. 19:12born to married parents. That is a 70 percentage point gap and for a city that has an office of
  324. 19:18racial equity, the fact that family structure never comes up in any of the cities, racial
  325. 19:25equity plans, it's not an indicator, it's not something that people talk about, was one of
  326. 19:29the things that motivated me to say, you know what, I think it's time to put pen to paper,
  327. 19:33not just to talk about the problem. Yes, to talk about how we got here, but also to speak to
  328. 19:40solutions, how do we move forward? What does a comprehensive strategy look like to restore
  329. 19:45marriage as the foundation of family life, particularly in the black community.
  330. 19:50So it was motivated obviously by the prevalence of the issue, but also by the fact that the
  331. 19:56people who speak most about racial equity and claim to speak on behalf of the black community
  332. 20:02are completely silent on the number one social issue facing our community today.
  333. 20:07Man, I wanted to dig into this quite a bit.
  334. 20:10or social just now about the number one social issue,
  335. 20:12as well as the utilization or highlighting of disparities,
  336. 20:17because what immediately comes to mind,
  337. 20:19when I hear you say that, the first thing that comes to mind,
  338. 20:23one of the major focuses of Moses Mordecai, Mark's Levy,
  339. 20:26that's his real name, Karl Marx and Frederick Ingalls,
  340. 20:29was not only the abolition of private property,
  341. 20:31but the abolition of the family.
  342. 20:33Yes.
  343. 20:34In my review, based on what I've seen,
  344. 20:37is that the highlighting of disparities has never been done
  345. 20:42for the, for constructive purposes, meaning to build something.
  346. 20:45They've always been used to tear something down,
  347. 20:48alter the tear down, establish heads, many detail down,
  348. 20:51tear down, establish structures, and even to tear down
  349. 20:53the families and replace the family
  350. 20:55with nanny state governmental policies.
  351. 20:57Because that's the part of the wherewithal
  352. 20:59because if you point to disparities concerning marriage,
  353. 21:02marriage and family formation,
  354. 21:04then that, the only purpose of highlighting that
  355. 21:07would be to build to construct something.
  356. 21:09So in light of that reality,
  357. 21:12do you think that the silence concerning disparities
  358. 21:15as it applies to marriage and family,
  359. 21:16do you think that's intentional or convenient omission?
  360. 21:21I would say I think a big part of it
  361. 21:23is what I would call social inertia.
  362. 21:25When a few things I remember from physics class
  363. 21:27back at an undergrad,
  364. 21:28as an object at rest tends to stay at rest.
  365. 21:31And for the better part of 10 years,
  366. 21:33progressives have trained themselves
  367. 21:35to not talk about this particular issue.
  368. 21:38And one thing I will give former President Obama credit for
  369. 21:42is that in my lifetime,
  370. 21:43he's probably the one president who most regularly
  371. 21:46connected family structure and social outcomes.
  372. 21:49And whenever he did it, and I know you would know this,
  373. 21:52he would always get slapped on the hand,
  374. 21:54not by conservatives.
  375. 21:56He would get slapped on the hand from his progressive,
  376. 21:58typically black progressive flank.
  377. 22:01So when he's on the South South Chicago in 2013,
  378. 22:05talking about ways to address issues of violence
  379. 22:07and build up a middle class economy in that community.
  380. 22:11He said, you know, he talked about the force of family structure
  381. 22:14and he said, that's why we have to do more to promote marriage
  382. 22:17and strong, responsible fatherhood.
  383. 22:19You couldn't find a Democrat in elected office today
  384. 22:21who would use those words.
  385. 22:23So I think, right, part of it is social inertia.
  386. 22:27And I think the other part of it is that,
  387. 22:30this is what I would call the capital allocation strategy
  388. 22:33among the black leadership set.
  389. 22:36So today, among these are the people I talk about in the book is the
  390. 22:40Act of Stocracy, right?
  391. 22:41The Black Progressive politicians, pundits, professors, preachers and
  392. 22:46performers, these are act of stock.
  393. 22:50They allocate all of their capital and put it in the bucket of politics.
  394. 22:55So yes, the political capital, social capital, cultural capital, moral,
  395. 23:00spiritual capital is all placed in the account of politics.
  396. 23:05And so what you have is a group of leaders who care far more about retaking the White
  397. 23:12House than they do rebuilding the Black family.
  398. 23:15So I think it's a combination of those two things, right?
  399. 23:18It's not used to talking about it.
  400. 23:20And then also focusing attention entirely on politics and assuming that political change
  401. 23:27will lead to the type of cultural change that they hoped for.
  402. 23:31I agree with you 100% on that.
  403. 23:32But what I'm driving at is why.
  404. 23:34It's like the elephant in the room.
  405. 23:36It's people like me in my background being a trial
  406. 23:39practitioner in the criminal justice system.
  407. 23:41It's the thing that's glaring me in the face all over,
  408. 23:44you know, seven days a week, you know,
  409. 23:47it's happening over and over and over.
  410. 23:48So why is that?
  411. 23:49You know, why would you among the things
  412. 23:51that Barack Obama would talk about
  413. 23:53when he's talking about the family?
  414. 23:54That's the thing you want to rebuke him for?
  415. 23:56People amongst his party, why is that?
  416. 23:58Yeah, and so this is an interesting phenomenon
  417. 24:01because many of the people I'm talking about live right,
  418. 24:04but they talk left, right?
  419. 24:05So we're coming out of the summer season.
  420. 24:08When they spent August on Marcus Vineyard,
  421. 24:10the people who go there for vacation,
  422. 24:14they don't believe in having five kids by five different men
  423. 24:17or five kids by five different women.
  424. 24:18They practice the things I'm talking about in the book,
  425. 24:21but I think it's a combination of things.
  426. 24:22One, subsequent, at least two generations have been trained
  427. 24:27to believe that all the problems facing the black community
  428. 24:30are due to either inequitable resource distribution
  429. 24:33or systemic racism.
  430. 24:35And that's why all of their solutions
  431. 24:38take one of two forms.
  432. 24:40It's either bigger government or better white people.
  433. 24:42Anything that does not, right?
  434. 24:47Good, man.
  435. 24:48Anything that does not fit in one of those two boxes
  436. 24:51gets cast to the side.
  437. 24:52Anything that requires agency from the black community
  438. 24:56gets cast to the side.
  439. 24:57Anything that can be reflective of our values,
  440. 25:00our principles, our morals, how we organize our lives,
  441. 25:04our social lives gets tossed to the side.
  442. 25:06So it's always about what government program we need.
  443. 25:11So if the kids are acting up on a Friday night,
  444. 25:15getting into fights, team takeovers,
  445. 25:17it's we need to extend the hours of the recreation center.
  446. 25:21If it's some other issue in terms of subpar education outcomes,
  447. 25:28the teachers are discriminating,
  448. 25:29the school system is discriminated.
  449. 25:31So if you can't fit your issue within those boxes,
  450. 25:34if you can't say this is due to a health disparity
  451. 25:37or employment discrimination or criminal justice discrimination,
  452. 25:42then your issue has zero chance of being advanced
  453. 25:46with respect to the black leadership class.
  454. 25:48So I think some of them committed Marxists?
  455. 25:52Absolutely.
  456. 25:53And I know you more than anyone drew light and attention
  457. 25:56to BLM five, six, seven years ago.
  458. 25:59and we both know that their black villages principal starts with we commit to disrupting the western
  459. 26:06prescribed nuclear family structure. So yes, those women were committed self-abile Marxists.
  460. 26:12Do I think the average typical member of the Congressional Black Caucus feels that and would say
  461. 26:17yeah we want to destroy the nuclear family? No I don't believe that because most of them again
  462. 26:23married before they carried but I do think that they are focused on issues that they can characterize
  463. 26:29as a systemic and structural and not issues
  464. 26:32that would require us to change the way
  465. 26:35that we organize our own lives.
  466. 26:37Now you may refer to something married before you carry.
  467. 26:40What does that mean?
  468. 26:42So it's the basic idea of forming family gods' way, right?
  469. 26:48So it's marriage first, then children.
  470. 26:51Or for all the people of a certain age
  471. 26:54when you were a school kid or you were here,
  472. 26:56Chris and Christina sitting on the tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
  473. 27:00First comes love, then comes marriage,
  474. 27:03then comes baby and a baby carriage.
  475. 27:05Even children understood the proper way to form a family.
  476. 27:09But now here's the issue today, Abe,
  477. 27:11is that there's a new family formation paradigm.
  478. 27:14It's Chris and Christina staring at their screens,
  479. 27:17T-E-X-T-I-N-G.
  480. 27:19First comes sex, then comes baby,
  481. 27:22then comes marriage, but that's a big maybe.
  482. 27:25So an entire generation has a completely different perspective
  483. 27:30on how families should be formed.
  484. 27:32And we see that born out in the data.
  485. 27:34Nationally, 70% of black children are born
  486. 27:37to unmarried parents, 45% live with a single mom.
  487. 27:41But if you look at some cities,
  488. 27:42as I said DC is 77% non-marital birth rate.
  489. 27:45And in New York is 75%, in Baltimore is 83%.
  490. 27:50In some states, in Georgia,
  491. 27:54I believe the black nomada birth rate is 71%.
  492. 27:58In South Carolina, I think it's 77%.
  493. 28:01In Arkansas, Louisiana, and Mississippi, it's 82%.
  494. 28:07So 82% of black children in Mississippi
  495. 28:10are born to unmarried parents.
  496. 28:12The idea that that particular family structure
  497. 28:15would have no downstream social, economic,
  498. 28:19behavioral, emotional effects is ridiculous.
  499. 28:23But for whatever reason, it's hard to get attention paid to it.
  500. 28:27And here's the challenge.
  501. 28:29The challenge is that the more conservatives, particularly
  502. 28:33white conservatives, I'm just going to talk real politics here,
  503. 28:36the more white conservatives are more attention,
  504. 28:39they pay to the issue.
  505. 28:41The more black progressives say, oh, no,
  506. 28:43that's just racist tropes and white supremacy.
  507. 28:47You just want to mimic the European family structure.
  508. 28:50So the more conservatives push into it,
  509. 28:53the more progressives pull away from it.
  510. 28:55And that is a microcosm of a much larger issue
  511. 28:59in terms of the different political ideologies
  512. 29:02as it relates to the family.
  513. 29:03And this is why you can't find think tanks,
  514. 29:06policy think tanks on the center left
  515. 29:08that have family policy papers.
  516. 29:10Because they've pulled back from this issue completely,
  517. 29:14because that allows them to say that this is just,
  518. 29:17you know, a conservative talking point or trope
  519. 29:20or hobby horse.
  520. 29:21And this is not something that we on the left
  521. 29:22need to pay attention to.
  522. 29:24I mean, it seems patently obvious that that type of withdrawal
  523. 29:29leaves, or should I say creates the environment that feeds
  524. 29:35immediately into, and this is why we need bigger and bigger
  525. 29:39government, more and more government intervention, more
  526. 29:42and more.
  527. 29:42Hey, by the way, we just need more of your tax dollars
  528. 29:45to do all of these other things.
  529. 29:46I mean, it seems like the hand-in-glove kind of phenomenon.
  530. 29:49Of course, we're going to ignore family formation,
  531. 29:51because if we look at the data that says children
  532. 29:54who are reared in an environment with a married father
  533. 29:56and mother, well, that affects their outcomes.
  534. 30:00The data shows that they, more than likely,
  535. 30:02they won't live in poverty.
  536. 30:04And if they don't live in poverty, guess what that means?
  537. 30:06And more than likely, they won't need the government
  538. 30:07to help them do these other things.
  539. 30:09So it seems like that that that connectivity aids them
  540. 30:13in their, they would view it as their policy objectives,
  541. 30:17but I would argue that there's a demonic rock throw
  542. 30:20behind that that says oh no no no yeah yeah yeah yeah keeping on on the policy
  543. 30:26standard yeah that's what it is we have the hurts and policy considerations this
  544. 30:30is not about the thriving in the maximum flourishing God's image bearers this is
  545. 30:35only a part of policy in a rhetorical debate so so one of the things that I
  546. 30:39cover in a vanishing black family is this specific phenomenon and and I talk
  547. 30:44about how the rise of the welfare state in the 1960s
  548. 30:48displacement from their rightful role as providers in their homes.
  549. 30:51So this is, you know, Lyndon Johnson, Great Society,
  550. 30:54War on Poverty, and you have a massive rapid expansion,
  551. 30:58massive rapid expansion of welfare starting in the 1960s,
  552. 31:02up until welfare reform in 1996.
  553. 31:05But, so I actually described this as an iron triangle,
  554. 31:09where you have elected officials who supported big government
  555. 31:13because they understood that if you promise low-income
  556. 31:18unmarried moms money, then those people are going to turn around and vote for you.
  557. 31:23So the elected official gets votes.
  558. 31:25The unelected bureaucrat gets to manage the poverty economy, just as you said it, right?
  559. 31:29So the more poor people in there are, the more case workers, the more administrators,
  560. 31:34the more statisticians, the more policy advisors, the more outreach specialists.
  561. 31:39And then you have the low income single moms who get financial provision,
  562. 31:45However, meager it may be yet financial provision from the government.
  563. 31:50So you have unelected bureaucrats, elected officials, and low-income moms.
  564. 31:54So who's on the outside of that?
  565. 31:55It's the dad who's useful for his seed, right, for procreation.
  566. 32:00But then he gets tossed to the side when it comes to him playing the role of husband
  567. 32:04and father.
  568. 32:05And I'm not saying this is all past because one of the things that I talk about is the interaction
  569. 32:10between welfare and feminism both hitting in the 1960s.
  570. 32:14I talked about how welfare displays men
  571. 32:16when they're right for rolling their homes.
  572. 32:18And I also talk about how second wave and all in feminism
  573. 32:22deceive women into believing that femininity is weak.
  574. 32:25Masculinity is toxic in men, but empowering in women.
  575. 32:29That marriage is oppressive.
  576. 32:30The home is a prison and children are a burden.
  577. 32:32So you have two ideologies rising at exactly the same time
  578. 32:38that disrupted the God-given roles
  579. 32:42for men and women in their homes.
  580. 32:44Let me break your right hand, Delano.
  581. 32:45We'll pick up right there.
  582. 32:46Other side of this break.
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  619. 35:07Back to the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
  620. 35:11Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton III here.
  621. 35:15My guest is Delano Squire's author of the newly released book, The Vanishing Black Family,
  622. 35:20How Welfare and Feminism May Marriage Optional and Children Vulnerable.
  623. 35:24And before we went to the break, Delano, you were explaining how the synergistic effect
  624. 35:31of both the welfare state and feminism converge to accomplish exactly which you put in your
  625. 35:39subscript, making marriage optional and children vulnerable.
  626. 35:41Would you continue your explanation on that point, please?
  627. 35:43Yeah, so again, you have these two major cultural shocks
  628. 35:46hitting at the same time in the 1960s,
  629. 35:49both disrupting how many women saw themselves,
  630. 35:53one another and the roles that they played in the family.
  631. 35:55And the effect that it had is that it took
  632. 35:59a family culture that was at the margins, right?
  633. 36:02Because even in 1965, 100 years after slavery,
  634. 36:08the non-marital birth rate in the black community
  635. 36:09was only 23.6%.
  636. 36:11just call it a quarter, just for the sake of argument.
  637. 36:13So I mean, three out of four black children
  638. 36:15were still born to marry parents, 65.
  639. 36:17But one generation after these two cultural shocks,
  640. 36:22by the time you get to 1985,
  641. 36:25it was already 60% of black children
  642. 36:27were being born out of red luck.
  643. 36:29So you had these two forces that moved that family culture
  644. 36:33from the margins to the mainstream.
  645. 36:35And what I argue in the Vanish and black family
  646. 36:37is that after that, this is a biblical principle.
  647. 36:41So I know your readers would appreciate this,
  648. 36:43that everything reproduces after its own kind.
  649. 36:46So even if the initial force is pulled back,
  650. 36:49for whatever reason, that culture itself
  651. 36:53would begin to reproduce because now you're going to have
  652. 36:56kids who grow up in neighborhoods
  653. 36:58where their parents aren't married,
  654. 36:59their grandparents weren't married,
  655. 37:01none of their friends parents are married,
  656. 37:03and no one in their community requires marriage
  657. 37:06before having children.
  658. 37:08So now you have kids growing up in a community
  659. 37:11where it is normal for young people at a certain age,
  660. 37:1520, 25, 26, to just get into relationships,
  661. 37:18some more serious than others,
  662. 37:19but some very, very much casual,
  663. 37:21and begin having children outside of the bonds of marriage.
  664. 37:24So that's one of the things that I talk about.
  665. 37:26And then, so I call that,
  666. 37:29that was the pathogen that attacked the family.
  667. 37:32But then I go on to talk about the failure of black leaders
  668. 37:35to adequately address these issues.
  669. 37:37And now you see that pathogen begin to spread,
  670. 37:41and then I dedicate an entire chapter
  671. 37:42to the failure of the black church in particular,
  672. 37:45and draw attention to the fact that
  673. 37:48the most politically active progressive black preachers,
  674. 37:50think you're Otis Moss III's and you're Freddie Haynes's
  675. 37:54and you're Jamal Bryant,
  676. 37:56these are people who actually will be an obstacle
  677. 37:59to black family reconstruction and not an asset.
  678. 38:02And the reason why is because they're embraced
  679. 38:05liberation theology, right from, you know, Dr. James Cole makes them see the the biblical ordering for family dynamics and relationships, one man, one woman for one lifetime, as oppressive either to women who say, I have no interest in a husband, or this is more frequently to LGBT community to the LGBT community that says no.
  680. 38:34the biblical definition of family is far too restrictive as it relates to how we live in 2026.
  681. 38:42And then on top of that, particularly in Jamal Bryan, I write about him,
  682. 38:46a lot of these guys are either silent on the issue of abortion or in Jamal Bryan's case,
  683. 38:51the Sunday after Roe vs. Wade was struck down. He lamented that, you know, that Dobbs struck down
  684. 38:57that poorly decided decision from 1973.
  685. 39:02And he said, you know, when women's backs are up against the wall,
  686. 39:06they're gonna fight like nobody's business.
  687. 39:09And then 15 minutes later,
  688. 39:10he did a baby dedication at a church called Newburg.
  689. 39:13I knew it. Right? So I knew it.
  690. 39:15So these guys are not assets when it comes to family reconstruction.
  691. 39:20And that's because they've accepted a devil's bargain.
  692. 39:24So they have distorted biblical fidelity, right?
  693. 39:28They have distorted the biblical text
  694. 39:32in order to gain the appearance of social justice
  695. 39:37and political power.
  696. 39:38So it's not even that they really get it.
  697. 39:40But it's the idea that, oh, if I just shave off a little,
  698. 39:43about what the Bible says about family and marriage,
  699. 39:46then I will be given a seat of prominence and position,
  700. 39:50both in my culture, but more importantly,
  701. 39:53among the political party that my people tend to vote for.
  702. 39:56And I think that's a terrible way to handle God's word
  703. 40:01and why that subset of preachers needs to be moved out
  704. 40:04of their way for family reconstruction to take place.
  705. 40:07And that's flat out sinful.
  706. 40:09That's hiring territory.
  707. 40:11And I mean that as an invective or pejorative,
  708. 40:14I mean that in the biblical sense.
  709. 40:16And I'm not going to get into a whole long deal,
  710. 40:21but the prevalence of false teachers
  711. 40:23as the Apostle Paul diagnosed it,
  712. 40:25yes, he was rebuking the false teachers,
  713. 40:26but he also talked about that the reason
  714. 40:28why false teachers had platforms
  715. 40:30because the people had itching ears,
  716. 40:32and they had correlated to themselves,
  717. 40:35people to tell them what they wanted to hear.
  718. 40:36So you have people who are unwilling to repent personally,
  719. 40:40so if they can get somebody who has the external veneer
  720. 40:43of clergymen to satiate their own desire to be affirmed,
  721. 40:50then hence the larger platform.
  722. 40:53but I don't wanna be derailed there because we're,
  723. 40:55even the way you answered that or shared that portion
  724. 40:58of what you shared here today leads us to where I really
  725. 41:00wanna spend a significant amount of time.
  726. 41:03And I encourage everybody listening to go out
  727. 41:05and get a copy of Brother Squires' book
  728. 41:08for your own edification.
  729. 41:09There's lots of data.
  730. 41:11It is extremely well researched.
  731. 41:14There'll be historical information, sociological information
  732. 41:17that you may not be readily aware of.
  733. 41:19you may want to get it as a gift or a tool of communicating to friends, family, and loved
  734. 41:25ones, because Brother Delano has done the heavy lifting for you.
  735. 41:29And so it's something that's worthwhile for you to share.
  736. 41:31But what I really want to drive toward is that how do we get out of this?
  737. 41:34I often say the mire that we find ourselves in, we've ended up here the way the proverb
  738. 41:40says as sin grows as a man travels, one foot after the other.
  739. 41:43And the only way out is by repentance.
  740. 41:47And that's not a quick fix.
  741. 41:48not, I dream of genie, weak eyes, blink your eyes and then you're out of it. But we can,
  742. 41:53if we will, how do we turn away from the trajectory that we have been on and to turn to what you
  743. 41:58describe as both family reconstruction and family revival?
  744. 42:02Yeah, absolutely. And I end that chapter on the failures of the Black Church by saying,
  745. 42:07the beauty of God and his character, he gives us time to repent and turn from our wicked ways.
  746. 42:15So I then pivot to the second half of the book, which is all solutions.
  747. 42:20And one of the things that I say is one of the first things we have to do is to reframe the
  748. 42:24issue of family reconstruction away from the desires of adults and towards the needs and
  749. 42:29rights of children.
  750. 42:30So when I talk about when I use rights language, I'm arguing that children have a right to the
  751. 42:36affection, protection, connection, correction and direction of the one man and the one woman
  752. 42:41that created him or her.
  753. 42:43And that that right is best exercise
  754. 42:44in a loving, low conflict household
  755. 42:46with a married mom and dad, point of line period.
  756. 42:48So that's the issue.
  757. 42:50Not what did the adults want,
  758. 42:52not how do they make the family of their dreams,
  759. 42:55even if it's two guys or two women.
  760. 42:58I want this, I desire this.
  761. 43:00So the government should do everything that I demand
  762. 43:03in order to give me the family of my dreams.
  763. 43:05No, the issue is about what is best for children
  764. 43:08and the rights that they have.
  765. 43:09So once you get the framing right,
  766. 43:11I start by saying, by far the most important institution
  767. 43:15in a reconstruction movement is the church.
  768. 43:17And I praise God for churches and pastors
  769. 43:21that faithfully teach the Bible,
  770. 43:23faithfully teach God's design when it comes to the family.
  771. 43:27I was in South Carolina a couple of weeks ago
  772. 43:29at a conference with Christian families
  773. 43:31against the destructive decision at CFAAT.
  774. 43:33And they have what they call the Eden Reset,
  775. 43:36where they're helping couples
  776. 43:38get back to God's design for the family.
  777. 43:41Not only that, they purchased 127 acre parcel of land
  778. 43:45and close to where the church is
  779. 43:48as a family restoration center.
  780. 43:50So there are churches doing the Lord's work
  781. 43:53as it relates to this particular issue.
  782. 43:55But I think other institutions can play a role.
  783. 43:58So I write in a book about the role HBCUs can play.
  784. 44:02And whether that's holding conferences,
  785. 44:05I've drafted a proposal for HBCU,
  786. 44:07marriage or family consortium that would do original research on attitudes and views around
  787. 44:12relationships, marriage, family, children. I would love to see HBCUs do surveys both to
  788. 44:19students, asking them questions such as, okay, would you be open to meeting a spouse over
  789. 44:24the next four years while you're on campus? And then also to alumni, particularly for alumni
  790. 44:30who have kids, would you be open to your child meeting a spouse? Or what age would you do
  791. 44:35do you think is most appropriate for your child to think
  792. 44:37about marriage and starting a family?
  793. 44:40So it's the church house, it's the schoolhouse.
  794. 44:43Let me ask you one quick question on that.
  795. 44:44Have, how has the response been to that,
  796. 44:48to the proposal to HBCUs?
  797. 44:49Have they been receptive?
  798. 44:51Have they been hostile?
  799. 44:52Have they been lukewarm?
  800. 44:54Not hostile, nobody has bitten yet in terms of saying,
  801. 44:59yes, I want to take this proposal and make this happen.
  802. 45:02But I've heard, you know, the people I've shared it with,
  803. 45:05have been open to the idea.
  804. 45:06So I'm actually trying to do some more work
  805. 45:09and establish some more relationship.
  806. 45:11I'd love to connect with the president Tuskegee.
  807. 45:13Because clearly, he's sending some standards
  808. 45:15and putting his foot down on certain things.
  809. 45:18It's about it, please don't.
  810. 45:18So it's over there, you know what I'm saying?
  811. 45:20Right, right, right, right.
  812. 45:22Yeah, but continue.
  813. 45:23I'm sorry, I didn't want to interrupt you momentum.
  814. 45:24I just, I wasn't intrigued by that idea.
  815. 45:26Yeah.
  816. 45:27So it's HBCU's, but also on the K through 12 level,
  817. 45:30it's introducing the success sequence
  818. 45:32to middle school, high school students
  819. 45:35long before they make the decision to start a family.
  820. 45:37That can be done in during class time,
  821. 45:40that can be done in out of school time,
  822. 45:42that can be done through public awareness campaigns,
  823. 45:44and I know several states have already begun to do that.
  824. 45:47So yes, church house, school house,
  825. 45:49the state house plays a role, right?
  826. 45:52The government obviously has played
  827. 45:54done much mischief when it comes to family formation,
  828. 45:56but I do think there's a limited role
  829. 45:58that the government can play,
  830. 46:00and again, on a basic level,
  831. 46:02That could be using the bully pulpit
  832. 46:05for public officials to constantly affirm
  833. 46:09the importance of the family as the most important institution.
  834. 46:12More important than their office is the family.
  835. 46:15But I can also be using existing federal grants.
  836. 46:20One of the ideas I have in the book
  837. 46:21is around a marriage boot camp
  838. 46:22for co-habiting couples who share
  839. 46:24at least one biological child.
  840. 46:26And the success in that boot camp
  841. 46:28would not be what we have better feelings now
  842. 46:30the end of the program in the beginning.
  843. 46:32Success would mean we're going through this six month
  844. 46:35or one year, however long program.
  845. 46:36And at the end, we are walking down the aisle
  846. 46:39at a communal wedding invite friends, family, grandma,
  847. 46:44granddad, cousins, auntie and all of them.
  848. 46:46They're gonna come out to wherever's being held
  849. 46:49and celebrate with us as we move from cohabitation
  850. 46:54to holy matrimony.
  851. 46:55One of the ideas that I had in the book is that
  852. 46:57if you could find a private funder,
  853. 46:59let's say a family foundation, it would be an interesting idea to offer those couples
  854. 47:04some financial incentive, whether it's $5,000, $7,500, $10,000 structured as a grant or as
  855. 47:12a loan that would be fully forgiven after 10 years, but it would show the importance of
  856. 47:20getting married, particularly to people who come from communities and cultures, family cultures,
  857. 47:26where they have not seen a marriage in the last three generations.
  858. 47:29So I think there's an appropriate role for the State House.
  859. 47:31And then of the four houses that I mentioned, last one is the Art House.
  860. 47:35And this is where I dedicated the entire chapter to the importance of art, media, and culture.
  861. 47:42I taught film.
  862. 47:43I start with Birth of the Nation.
  863. 47:45I talk about Oscar and Michelle and his independent film company to counter that sort of racist
  864. 47:51propaganda.
  865. 47:53And then I get to modern day.
  866. 47:55I talk about the impact that gangster rapper hip hop
  867. 47:58has had since the late 90s.
  868. 48:00And one of the things that I say,
  869. 48:01the thesis of that chapter is that you cannot sow snoop dog
  870. 48:05and reap the Cosby family, right?
  871. 48:08You can't continuously push messages
  872. 48:11into your community and culture that degrade women
  873. 48:15and devalue them as wives, as mothers, that disrespect them
  874. 48:20and think that that won't have an impact
  875. 48:22on how young men see young women in their community.
  876. 48:24So it's really a call for better images and perspectives
  877. 48:35on marriage and family using the most popular and important
  878. 48:40and consequential tools that are in the culture.
  879. 48:42Now, for people with a certain age,
  880. 48:45they'll think music, TV, and film.
  881. 48:48But particularly for Gen Z and Gen Alpha,
  882. 48:51that may mean, and I say this tongue in cheek,
  883. 48:53That may mean a ban on all relationship podcasts, because every day that I open up social media,
  884. 48:59I see somebody cut on a mic and say, oh, I think all women need a whole face.
  885. 49:05Sorry, I don't mean to use strong language, but these are the things that, or I'm polyamorous,
  886. 49:13right?
  887. 49:14So I can't, one woman is not enough to satisfy me.
  888. 49:16So part of it is presenting more positive and realistic images of what marriage looks
  889. 49:24like, the beauty of marriage to a new generation who's never seen it.
  890. 49:28And I'd say biblical.
  891. 49:30That's biblical.
  892. 49:31But that, boy, I'm sorry, I don't want to cut you off.
  893. 49:35No, so that's what it's about.
  894. 49:37And obviously I'm a Christian writing a book about the family.
  895. 49:40So I make numerous references to the biblical design, biblical order.
  896. 49:46But I also acknowledge that marriage is a common grace, designed by God, right, to be
  897. 49:52enjoyed by his people, but also beneficial to people who don't even believe in God.
  898. 49:57And I liken this to someone who lives in a home that was designed by an architect that
  899. 50:03they need a no-no acknowledge.
  900. 50:05Now you can benefit from it, you can make family memories, but if we want to get down
  901. 50:10to the hard work of re-buildings after there's been catastrophic damage done to that structure.
  902. 50:17You need a blueprint and you need to know who the architect is. And this is why, to me,
  903. 50:21it's important to always, even though it's a book on the Black family, reconstruction has to
  904. 50:27be done from a biblical perspective because race alone is not going to be enough to reconstruct.
  905. 50:35The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those
  906. 50:40of the American Family Association or American Family Radio.

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