September 14, 2026 · 50:48

Jacob Coxon, former Anthropic AI researcher, resigned from the company because the AI race is “gambling with our lives.”

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0:00 - 15:00. Isaiah 9:8-10. Is hubris causing us to misunderstand the moment? 15:00 - 31:00. Jacob Coxon, former Anthropic AI researcher, resigned from the company because the AI race is “gambling with our lives.” 31:00 - 48:00. The MA Department of Family Services removed a 15 year-old from her family’s home because they refused to call their daughter a boy.

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  1. 0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
  2. 0:03It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
  3. 0:06This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
  4. 0:11It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite.
  5. 0:15Delivery people out of the bondage of mainstream media.
  6. 0:18And the philosophies of this world.
  7. 0:20God has called you and me to be his ambassador.
  8. 0:24Even in this dark moment.
  9. 0:26Let's not miss our moment.
  10. 0:28And now the Hamilton Corner.
  11. 0:31Good evening, everybody.
  12. 0:35Welcome to the Hamilton Corner here on American Family Radio.
  13. 0:37I'm your host Abraham Hamilton III.
  14. 0:40Ready to rock and roll with today's edition of the program.
  15. 0:43At this very moment, many of you, if not most of you,
  16. 0:46are making your transition from your part-time jobs
  17. 0:49where you generate an income to your full-time jobs
  18. 0:51where you cultivate an outcome.
  19. 0:52And as you do so, I want to remind you to do so
  20. 0:55with intentionality, understanding the primacy
  21. 0:58that God places on family and welcoming that
  22. 1:01primacy to govern and to guard and to guide your engagement, starting right in your homes.
  23. 1:10At this very moment, many of you, if not most of you as you're making that transition, I
  24. 1:15want to encourage you to do so with intentionality because the family is the fundamental building
  25. 1:23block of society. The family is the fundamental component of the church. Jesus Christ is the
  26. 1:32head of his church and is the cornerstone and the bride is comprised of individuals and families
  27. 1:38and the primary institution tasked with the responsibility of being a part of the household
  28. 1:45of God generationally is through the family. If we neglect, if we ignore, if we allow the
  29. 1:54reality of the student when fully trained, they will be like the teacher and we continually
  30. 2:02outsource the discipleship responsibility, we should expect to get more and not just quantitatively,
  31. 2:09but it increasingly negative iterations of what we have currently.
  32. 2:15Thank you very much for tuning into the program, tuning into the program.
  33. 2:18I'm grateful to be with you.
  34. 2:21However you're listening, I know we have people who are live radio listeners, podcast listeners,
  35. 2:27podcast watchers, television show watchers.
  36. 2:30We're grateful to God for all the different ways He allows us to communicate with you and
  37. 2:34also grateful that you are inclined to allow us to be a part of your lives. I will continue
  38. 2:45to state this because the simple reality is darkness is not an affirmative force, but it
  39. 2:50reoccupies the space that is vacated by the light. And if we want to see things change
  40. 2:55in our nation and we need to start being vehicles for that change right where we live. I've been
  41. 3:01saying and I will continue to say that we have to live locally, refuse to allow national headlines,
  42. 3:07national conversations to move you away from being salt and light right where you live. If something's
  43. 3:13going on in your community and you recognize the problem, perhaps God has opened your eyes in that
  44. 3:18fashion so that you can initiate the address for the problem. You know, one of the things that is
  45. 3:27as more and more people in our country are embracing things like Marxism and you
  46. 3:32have an entire political movement that is gaining momentum unfortunately in our
  47. 3:37country to where we look to governmental answers to problems that is
  48. 3:44foundationally anti-american. That is not who we have been nor is it who we are
  49. 3:50but that we are a people who have sought to keep the government at bay.
  50. 3:58You know, one of these days I'm going to have to go through all the areas where I would argue
  51. 4:07that the federal government is operating in an unconstitutional manner.
  52. 4:10You know, whenever any piece of legislation is proposed, the first question that every
  53. 4:14American citizen should have is, wait a minute, does the government have the authority to
  54. 4:19do that?
  55. 4:22And when you enter that assessment or begin that assessment, you're going to find that,
  56. 4:28No, I don't see the constitutional authority for that to happen at the federal level.
  57. 4:33But what has happened over time, these things have been normalized across generations.
  58. 4:40And it's very, very easy to point the finger at, you know, this person here did that, this
  59. 4:46person here did that, but a lot of the things that have transpired, folks very simply, they
  60. 4:51have transpired on our watch, on our watch.
  61. 4:56You know, you have the situation right now, and people often forget that Cecile Richards's
  62. 5:03mom and Richards used to be the governor of Texas.
  63. 5:06There was a long time, it's been a long time since then, but in the past, Texas had a pretty
  64. 5:14robust Democrat presence.
  65. 5:16Then it became a Republican stronghold, but as I'm talking to you right now, the Senate
  66. 5:23raised between James, Talarico and Ken Paxon is close. How did that happen? Let's get
  67. 5:34into the Word of God first before we start diagnosing those things. But this will be connected
  68. 5:38to what we're just talking about. Isaiah chapter 9 is what we're going to begin the program
  69. 5:43today. Isaiah chapter 9 verses 8 through 10 is what I want to present to you for your
  70. 5:49consideration today. In the book of Isaiah, if you turn a few pages prior, you'll see in
  71. 5:54chapter 8, the Lord was warning the northern kingdom of Israel through the prophet of
  72. 5:58through the prophet Isaiah and specifies that Assyria would be an instrument of judgment against
  73. 6:07the northern kingdom, names them specifically in chapter 8, chapter 10. The Lord once again refers to
  74. 6:15judgment coming from afar, that there would be a people who would come from afar indicating that
  75. 6:21the Assyrian invasion was something that was coming. But in chapter 9 the texts we're going to read
  76. 6:26today in verses 8 through 10, the Lord reiterates the fact that he sent warning judgments. There's
  77. 6:33always been warning judgments and the purpose of the warning judgments are never to be cataclysmic
  78. 6:39annihilationist in orientation. I mean, God is well capable of doing that. Hello, Sodom and Gomorrah.
  79. 6:47But the Lord prior to that often sends warning judgments, and in this text he explains that he
  80. 6:52sent warning judgments, but the people of Israel were so arrogant, so proud that they
  81. 6:59did not discern the warning judgment and just decided within themselves that they would
  82. 7:04press forward and rebuild.
  83. 7:06You know, and you're going to see that in the text.
  84. 7:09And I want you to consider whether or not some of this may sound familiar.
  85. 7:13Isaiah chapter 9, verses 8-11, and this is what the Word of God says.
  86. 7:18The Lord sends a message against Jacob and it falls on Israel and all the people who know
  87. 7:24it.
  88. 7:26That is Ephraim and the inhabitants of Samaria, asserting in pride and in arrogance of heart.
  89. 7:33The bricks have fallen down but we will rebuild with smooth stones.
  90. 7:38The sycamores have been cut down but we will replace them with cedars.
  91. 7:44In verse 10 where it says but we will rebuild with smooth stones.
  92. 7:48translations there would say dressed stones. And what is happening, note that the Prophet
  93. 7:53Isaiah says that Ephraim and inhabitants of Samaria were asserting in pride and arrogance
  94. 8:01of heart. And they note the bricks have fallen down. So this tells you, in God is saying this,
  95. 8:11that they recognize that the bricks have fallen down. Something has gone wrong, man. They recognize
  96. 8:18that your bricks have fallen.
  97. 8:20They likewise recognize the sycamores have been cut down.
  98. 8:25So they recognize something had transpired,
  99. 8:28but instead of in light of that recognition,
  100. 8:32the pain that has befallen them,
  101. 8:37as evident by the fallen bricks and the sycamores cut down.
  102. 8:40And in light of that, turning to the Lord to say,
  103. 8:42Lord, what is going on here?
  104. 8:44Seeking clarity from the Lord,
  105. 8:46seeking the Lord to show them what might have happened.
  106. 8:48They just unilaterally declare, yeah, the bricks have fallen down, but we, we, you see,
  107. 8:54the bricks have fallen down, but we will rebuild with smooth stones.
  108. 8:58The sycamores have been cut down, but we, we, we will replace them with cedars.
  109. 9:06What I'm driving at in our country right now, many people recognize that some things that
  110. 9:09are off.
  111. 9:11I mean, I was looking at some stuff today in the North Texas area.
  112. 9:17We've talked a bit on this show about the prevalence of the Islamic presence in the North
  113. 9:21Texas area, but we hadn't talked as much about, you know, the construction of Hindu temples,
  114. 9:28North Texas.
  115. 9:32And I'm looking at this stuff and my wife and I had the privilege of going to India in
  116. 9:372020.
  117. 9:38What was that?
  118. 9:392020?
  119. 9:40We went to India?
  120. 9:412021?
  121. 9:42I don't remember the specific year, but I'm saying this stuff looks like the same stuff
  122. 9:44we saw in Mumbai.
  123. 9:46This, this, this is stuff we saw in Jenga Reddy, Gudum.
  124. 9:50These are things we saw there, but now these things are in Texas.
  125. 9:55I mean, just last week, for the last few weeks, this is wild man.
  126. 10:02A woman strangles her own children to death, and yet the pink wearing ladies are supporting
  127. 10:10the woman.
  128. 10:13And then you have jurors in the trial, and I shared this on social media.
  129. 10:17You have jurors in the trial, and I shared this on the show, whereas 11 to 1, and is one
  130. 10:23One juror, one man who now I know the man that was more
  131. 10:28a melanated man, he said listen, I'm not moving past the fact
  132. 10:33that this woman's strangled her three children.
  133. 10:35And the other juror is like I can't believe
  134. 10:37that he couldn't get over the fact that she violently murdered
  135. 10:42her three children, yeah that's really the point guys.
  136. 10:45Something is off in our country, something is off.
  137. 10:52I just saw another thing and I may get to this later this week.
  138. 10:55One of these actors in Hellywood and he's going on and on
  139. 10:58pounding the chess how proud he is that he's been able to be
  140. 11:00successful because he and his wife have not had children.
  141. 11:06I'm just like, you proud of that son?
  142. 11:09He's like, nah, he gives me more time to have more fun,
  143. 11:11to do more than things that I enjoy.
  144. 11:12I was like, yo, one of the major instances of matriculating
  145. 11:17into maturity as a man is when you stop living for yourself
  146. 11:20primarily.
  147. 11:22You know, you're like, you're not living to just,
  148. 11:24like you can't be 15 forever fam.
  149. 11:28Like Peter Pan was supposed to be a cartoon, but you got real real people trying to be real like Peter Pan's
  150. 11:40guys things are off we've talked about
  151. 11:43the
  152. 11:45protracted
  153. 11:49non-marital rates and and and and how you have
  154. 11:54women
  155. 11:55Seemingly motivated by this massachusetts trial repeating the same things
  156. 12:00You know, you have, you know, I'm not trying to throw shade on anybody, but this is just
  157. 12:05the reality.
  158. 12:06You have people for years who would say, man, listen, the government to redistribution of
  159. 12:10wealth is touched on Marxism.
  160. 12:13But then you have a Republican president or a Republican party who says, and by the way,
  161. 12:16we're going to redistribute wealth.
  162. 12:17And now all of a sudden people forgot what socialism is.
  163. 12:19Well, you shouldn't try to call everything socialistic.
  164. 12:22Or what's not socialistic?
  165. 12:24The redistribution of using the federal government as a laundering mechanism to redistribute
  166. 12:30Tax dollars, that's not.
  167. 12:32Come on, man.
  168. 12:33Wake, we gotta wake up.
  169. 12:36We gotta wake up.
  170. 12:37And there are many who are simply saying,
  171. 12:40and I get it, because I see the problems.
  172. 12:42I feel the pain.
  173. 12:43Listen, I'm raising children in this environment,
  174. 12:46in this economy, like just like you all are.
  175. 12:49I pump gas, just like you pump gas.
  176. 12:52I see what's happening.
  177. 12:55But if we recognize the bricks are falling,
  178. 13:00but we don't have the wherewithal to stop and say,
  179. 13:02Whoa, Lord, we have gone astray.
  180. 13:07Lord, will you help us to turn rightly in build?
  181. 13:13Or we just push passes, yeah, things are wrong,
  182. 13:15but we're gonna rebuild with dress stones.
  183. 13:18We're gonna rebuild with smooth stones.
  184. 13:19We're gonna fix it.
  185. 13:20We're gonna make America great on our own terms
  186. 13:23without ever considering.
  187. 13:25And listen, as Benjamin Franklin said,
  188. 13:29if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground
  189. 13:31without our Lord's awareness, can an empire rise
  190. 13:35without his aid?
  191. 13:40We like to talk about a lot of the things that are happening.
  192. 13:42All the factless politicians in DC
  193. 13:44who keeps sending them there?
  194. 13:46Somebody is sending them there.
  195. 13:48Somebody's electing them.
  196. 13:50Why haven't we done a better job of vetting them?
  197. 13:52Well, I aim to campaign one way
  198. 13:54and then they operate another way.
  199. 13:56I get that, but at some point
  200. 13:58we have to take some level of responsibility
  201. 14:00And then we get to the place to where,
  202. 14:05we get to the place to where we have liars and thieves.
  203. 14:14Oh, I see this common dividends are not tax dollars,
  204. 14:16not at the end of negative.
  205. 14:17You can't promise,
  206. 14:21270 million US American adults, $5,000 each.
  207. 14:27And it's gonna be an additional $1.35 trillion
  208. 14:29at a minimum that you're spending.
  209. 14:32Where did that money come from?
  210. 14:37We only generated about 140 billion net in tariff revenue,
  211. 14:42in light of the 100 billion plus that have been refunded
  212. 14:45as a result of Supreme Court opinions.
  213. 14:48Just saying guys, bricks have fallen,
  214. 14:50but if we try to speed to say we will rebuild
  215. 14:53without turning to the Lord, we're missing.
  216. 14:55The key ingredient.
  217. 15:00A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker.
  218. 15:03He who dwells in the secret place
  219. 15:05to the most high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
  220. 15:08I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress,
  221. 15:11my God in Him, I will trust Psalm 91 verses one and two.
  222. 15:16In a perilous world, so many people are afraid,
  223. 15:20they're fearful in a world where inner cities
  224. 15:22and many other communities are just simply dangerous places
  225. 15:26to be, we see the drug trafficking, human trafficking,
  226. 15:29muggings, murders, physical and sexual abuse.
  227. 15:33There is a place of safety in this world
  228. 15:35and it's found in, it's found in that secret place,
  229. 15:39that intimate relationship with God,
  230. 15:41no one can protect you like God can,
  231. 15:44but it's important for us to do our part
  232. 15:46to appropriate to place ourselves in that secret place.
  233. 15:50Praying Psalm 91 every day is a very wise thing
  234. 15:52for all believers to do.
  235. 15:54No one can protect you like God can.
  236. 16:00Here's a $10 bill.
  237. 16:01It's got the picture of Alexander Hamilton on the front of it.
  238. 16:04You know, it's kind of sad when I was 10 years old,
  239. 16:07everything that I could buy for a dollar
  240. 16:09now costs about $10.
  241. 16:10That's the cost of inflation.
  242. 16:13It's just paper.
  243. 16:14It's not backed by anything.
  244. 16:15You can't exchange it for gold and silver.
  245. 16:16You used to, but you can't do that anymore.
  246. 16:19And that's unfortunate.
  247. 16:20You know, pirates wouldn't accept this.
  248. 16:21Pirates, they wanted gold and silver.
  249. 16:25Patriots, the founders of this nation,
  250. 16:26also wanted gold and silver coin.
  251. 16:28In fact, they put a provision in the Constitution,
  252. 16:3017 words that said states could only make gold
  253. 16:34and silver coins tender within the states.
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  258. 17:04Shiting light into the darkness, this is the Hamilton Corner, on American Family Radio.
  259. 17:11Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton III here. Listen, I'm sharing these
  260. 17:17things just for your information, but not for the sake of perpetuating any type of
  261. 17:24caustic reactionary response, but to understand what's happening around us, to one know how to
  262. 17:32pray and then seek to have to seek to engage in the ways that we can where we are and where we need
  263. 17:37to. Because as I've been saying, and I will continue to say, all hands must be on deck. We need everybody
  264. 17:44Engaged and when I'm saying everybody engaged we have to do things in terms of engaging our civil government know that about it
  265. 17:50We have to do things to engage the hearts and minds of people the hearts and minds of people
  266. 17:55you know, I
  267. 17:57Grieve at a host of things prevalent biblical illiteracy the lack of
  268. 18:02Economic literacy and in terms of macro level economics as well as just personal finance and things of that nature
  269. 18:08And I'm engaged in trying to do things on a local level and in addition to what we do nationally
  270. 18:13And I encourage everyone of you to do the same thing.
  271. 18:16But I do want you to be aware of what's happening.
  272. 18:17So there's one thing I want to share with you.
  273. 18:19I've been kind of monitoring as it was unfolding,
  274. 18:21wanting to do a little bit of digging,
  275. 18:24a bit of due diligence before I brought this conversation
  276. 18:27to you, but this is a conversation that I think
  277. 18:29you need to be made aware of.
  278. 18:32What am I talking about now?
  279. 18:33Well, there is a man by the name of Jacob Roxen.
  280. 18:37Is that his name, right?
  281. 18:38Let me make sure I got it.
  282. 18:40Coxen, I'm sorry.
  283. 18:41Jacob Coxen is his name.
  284. 18:43And he is an AI researcher, mathematician, and engineer,
  285. 18:49the whole thing.
  286. 18:50He worked previously for OpenAI,
  287. 18:53in the construction of the chat GPT, AI modality.
  288. 18:58He was in subsequently hired by Anthropic.
  289. 19:01And Anthropic is the company that makes Claude.
  290. 19:05All right.
  291. 19:06Now this caught my attention,
  292. 19:08not only for the substantive comments
  293. 19:11that Jacob Rocksen made,
  294. 19:12because what he did was he resigned from anthropic.
  295. 19:17And this is the guy who was a true believer,
  296. 19:21all in in AI, using his technological expertise
  297. 19:26to help build it he believed in it wholeheartedly.
  298. 19:28But after working on AI for three years,
  299. 19:31he said, no, I'm out, I'm out.
  300. 19:34And he specifically, I guess I'll read to you,
  301. 19:36he posted this on X and then shared a bit of information
  302. 19:39as to why he resigned.
  303. 19:42We're gonna get into that conversation
  304. 19:43because he's done television interview since then,
  305. 19:45explaining his rationale, but he says this quote,
  306. 19:48I resigned from anthropic today.
  307. 19:51I spent the last three years doing pre-training research
  308. 19:54at both open AI and anthropic.
  309. 19:57Neither company is acting responsibly.
  310. 20:00They are racing straight to self-improving super intelligence
  311. 20:05and gambling with our lives."
  312. 20:09End quote.
  313. 20:10Now that's pretty strong language, pretty strong warning.
  314. 20:18In addition to that warning,
  315. 20:19and he goes on to share more information on X about this,
  316. 20:24but in addition to what he said,
  317. 20:26this caught my eye because I am aware
  318. 20:29that anthropic is just about what, six weeks away
  319. 20:33from their initial public offering.
  320. 20:36Many of you are familiar with that terminology
  321. 20:38and the event that you're not familiar with,
  322. 20:39that terminology, an initial public offering
  323. 20:43is what happens when a company makes shares of its stock
  324. 20:50available to the public for acquisition investment,
  325. 20:55and then therefore the investors will be shareholders.
  326. 20:57All right, they reserve a part of the companies
  327. 21:04ownership to themselves so they can maintain control,
  328. 21:07board membership and that kind of thing,
  329. 21:08but the whole purpose for going public with the corporation
  330. 21:11to try to raise the money that they need to scale whatever business enterprises seeking to pursue.
  331. 21:18So most recently some of you may be aware when Elon Musk's SpaceX went public and they went public
  332. 21:24at the largest valuation of a public traded company in history that the official numbers for SpaceX
  333. 21:36when their IPO, the initial public offering was made was 1.77 trillion by the end of the very first closing day, SpaceX closed
  334. 21:46with an over $2.1 trillion valuation. Prior to SpaceX, they had never been a publicly traded company whose IPO was at a trillion dollars or more.
  335. 21:55Never happened. Well, guess what? It just happened.
  336. 21:58You know, the whole story, you know, you guys, many of you heard the stories that one of the
  337. 22:03things Elon Musk did is that he gave his employees, everybody, from, you know, the janitors and
  338. 22:09the engineers working on building things, meaning the mechanical engineers, not just the technical,
  339. 22:14computer engineers, but the mechanical engineers.
  340. 22:16He would include in their compensation shares of stock and how that IPO made new billionaires
  341. 22:25and new millionaires based on their stock holdings.
  342. 22:30Well the anthropic initial public offering is expected to be even higher than SpaceX.
  343. 22:37Current discussions are that anthropics at IPO will it be $2 trillion plus at the moment
  344. 22:43of IPO.
  345. 22:45I'm saying that because I don't know this for a fact but I would imagine that someone who
  346. 22:50works in a critical role for anthropic or worked in a critical role for anthropic like Jacob
  347. 22:55Coxin did that he stood to make a lot of money.
  348. 22:58If he just hold up held on for about six more weeks.
  349. 23:03Again, I don't know him.
  350. 23:04I don't know his moral fiber.
  351. 23:05I don't know his moral code.
  352. 23:07All I know is what he stated publicly.
  353. 23:10And he said, though you have this looming anthropic IPO coming where he very likely stands
  354. 23:15or stood to become very wealthy in a short amount of time, he said that I cannot continue
  355. 23:24to do what I have been doing because I am concerned that this, this AI race is going
  356. 23:34to be problematic for mankind.
  357. 23:37So he did some television interviews recently.
  358. 23:38I want you to hear Jacob Cox and for yourself.
  359. 23:41And I want us to think through and talk through where we are.
  360. 23:45And now when I'm saying this, all right, when I'm sharing this with you, again, I'm not
  361. 23:49sharing this really be alarmed into, into trepidation, anything, but we need to be aware
  362. 23:55Because never forget Act 17, God is ordained you and I for this moment.
  363. 23:58He has determined before time the boundaries of our habitation and the times
  364. 24:02of which we would live so that men should seek God.
  365. 24:04So our Lord is not surprised that we're living in an environment and living
  366. 24:09in an era to where our artificial intelligence as it exists currently is
  367. 24:14on the horizon.
  368. 24:15And what you're going to hear Jacob Cox and talk about is that his concerns
  369. 24:19is not about AI's capabilities currently, but the rate of progress and the
  370. 24:23movement toward the development of recursive self-learning super intelligence and what that
  371. 24:29could mean for mankind in the not too distant future. Having said that, I want you to listen to and watch
  372. 24:35Jacob Coxen discussing his concerns in which he said that A.I. is gambling with our lives that
  373. 24:42within the next decade considering the rate of progress, that it could be bad for mankind in
  374. 24:47short order. Listen to and watch clip number one, clip one, go. Jacob, I appreciate you being with
  375. 24:53us. For sure, I assume you are saying literally that you believe that AI could kill us all
  376. 25:02by the end of the decade. How would that happen? What would that actually look like?
  377. 25:10Yeah. So the precise scenario sounds a little bit like science fiction. It sounds like something
  378. 25:16that's not real, but it is frightening real. It's easiest to understand it if you think
  379. 25:20about real things that happened two months ago.
  380. 25:22So two months ago, open AI agents,
  381. 25:25AI's hacked into third party infrastructure,
  382. 25:29entirely at their own accord.
  383. 25:30And this was like a concentrated hacking spree
  384. 25:33that they carried out of their own volition.
  385. 25:36And I think that if you extrapolate into the future
  386. 25:38the level of capabilities of these AI's
  387. 25:41with the same independent volition
  388. 25:42they could cause extreme havoc.
  389. 25:44For example, hacking critical infrastructure,
  390. 25:46building extinction level bio-weapons.
  391. 25:50There's a lot of ways that the AI could actuate itself
  392. 25:54in the world.
  393. 25:57Within the next decade, AI can kill us all.
  394. 26:04Some of you may be aware of this.
  395. 26:06Some of you may not be aware of this.
  396. 26:07But what he was referring to is that OpenAI, which
  397. 26:10is the company that's created Chat GPT.
  398. 26:15And the CEO of OpenAI is Sam Altman.
  399. 26:21Now, one of the concerns that I've raised with AI is that, of course, AI is a tool,
  400. 26:25but here's the problem that I have with it.
  401. 26:27That a lot of the people that are driving this push towards artificial intelligence
  402. 26:33and then artificial general intelligence and artificial super intelligence,
  403. 26:38a lot of them are godless people.
  404. 26:40You know, Sam Altman is a quite loud,
  405. 26:49homosexual and atheist, and these are the people that are driving the programming for this algorithmic
  406. 26:58learning technology.
  407. 27:00Well just two months ago they had this experiment that they conducted at OpenAI, and they presented
  408. 27:06the AI with a prompt, but the AI in a self-initiating fashion without a human being initiating it went
  409. 27:16beyond the parameters of the of the prompt and hacked into
  410. 27:21uh... various
  411. 27:23other organizations
  412. 27:26to accomplish the task but in a manner that exceeded the capacity
  413. 27:31uh... for a lot you know and before we came on the air by was talking about it
  414. 27:35you know that the c o of anthropic they've been pushing for this stuff pushing for
  415. 27:39pushing for it
  416. 27:40and now that they've built it to where it is now now
  417. 27:43They're crying out to the government for regulation.
  418. 27:45Please, please regulate us now and things of that nature.
  419. 27:48And it's like, what's going on here?
  420. 27:52And what Jacob Coxon is concerned about
  421. 27:55is the lack of ethical parameters for algorithmic learning
  422. 28:01in the AI methodologies, in AI technology.
  423. 28:05He continues in his post, Jacob Coxon, that is, quote,
  424. 28:10do not underestimate the power of this technology.
  425. 28:13This will soon be superhuman systems
  426. 28:15that can hack anything.
  427. 28:16Revolutionize any field overnight
  428. 28:19and acquire real power and resources.
  429. 28:21We have all witnessed the progress in each of these domains,
  430. 28:25and progress is not slowing.
  431. 28:28The people building AI earnestly?
  432. 28:30I'm sorry, the people building AI earnestly believe
  433. 28:33that it could kill us all by the end of the decade.
  434. 28:36This is not a marketing stunt.
  435. 28:38If anything, many executives and senior researchers
  436. 28:40will couch their phrasing in the press to sound sensible,
  437. 28:44But I hear the same people express fear privately.
  438. 28:48No other human activity poses this level of danger."
  439. 28:54That's what Jacob Cox and the AI researcher posted online.
  440. 29:00So in addition to describing it as a phenomenon
  441. 29:03that if we don't get a proper handle on this,
  442. 29:08this could kill us within a decade.
  443. 29:12And the rate of the progress is one of the things that is startling because remember he was all in Jacob Cox and was all in at first
  444. 29:20That's why you'd be worked for these companies
  445. 29:22But what he's seen now is cost them just
  446. 29:25About six weeks and some change short of what what is being predicted as the largest IPO in the world and which you more than likely
  447. 29:32Still to become a very wealthy man. He said man. I can't be involved in this anymore
  448. 29:36Listen to Jacob Cox and describe the rate of progress concern and watch in clip number two clip two go
  449. 29:41Is it specifically when did your feelings about this technology change?
  450. 29:46Was it something about the rate of progress that you've seen?
  451. 29:49Yeah, so I think it's really important to just look at the rate of progress and say for
  452. 29:55example in areas like coding or math, a couple of years ago these AIs were just about helping
  453. 30:00humans a little bit.
  454. 30:01They could give you suggestions.
  455. 30:02Now they're close to replacing them.
  456. 30:03We still need humans at the moment, but quite plausibly within a year we'll no longer need
  457. 30:08humans for doing research in many areas.
  458. 30:11on Tuesday, opening AI solved a millennium problem, one of the biggest unsolved open problems
  459. 30:16in mathematics purely autonomously using an AI.
  460. 30:20And I think what's most scary is if AI is used to make itself more intelligent.
  461. 30:24So you can take an AI and give it the problem of AI research.
  462. 30:28Just like currently they've given it math research.
  463. 30:30You could make it do the tasks that we're currently doing and then you get what's called
  464. 30:33an intelligence explosion.
  465. 30:35The AI just gets smarter and smarter with no human involvement necessary.
  466. 30:39And so you have a thing that is vastly smarter than humans.
  467. 30:42And this could be coming very soon.
  468. 30:45So the rate of progress is the thing that alarmed Jacob
  469. 30:49Coxon.
  470. 30:50And when you're thinking about it, like, well, I mean, this is
  471. 30:54wild.
  472. 30:55What kind of things are promulgated?
  473. 30:56Well, there's already evidence that AI has the capacity
  474. 30:59to concoct extension level bio-weapons.
  475. 31:03There have been experiments that showed that it has capacity
  476. 31:05for various cybersecurity hacks.
  477. 31:08one of the more recent experiments is that in two days,
  478. 31:12AI was able to concoct access to penetrate
  479. 31:18various firewalls of foreign governments
  480. 31:21in just two days.
  481. 31:23And the major concern in these technologies,
  482. 31:26I'm not a techie, I know most of the listeners
  483. 31:28are not teches, but the concern is not just algorithmic
  484. 31:32learning, but when it gets to the place
  485. 31:34to whether the AIs have the ability to expand its information base and becomes a self-learning
  486. 31:40phenomenon.
  487. 31:41Like for example, at Anthropic they are discussing the reality that its clawed AI system now has
  488. 31:47the capacity to upgrade and make the next version of clawed on its own without any human
  489. 31:53intervention.
  490. 31:56That is what the concern is because if you have the capacity to be self-learning but you
  491. 32:02You do not have ethical boundaries and parameters that will say, though you can do something, you
  492. 32:08probably should not do it.
  493. 32:11That is a concern.
  494. 32:12It's described as recursive self improvement.
  495. 32:15Here's one more clip on this.
  496. 32:16For the last few minutes, we'll be in this segment.
  497. 32:19It's clip number three, clip three, go.
  498. 32:22We mentioned a former colleague of yours currently works at Anthropic, basically endorsing the
  499. 32:26assessment that AI could potentially kill everyone within a decade.
  500. 32:29In a follow-up post, he said, to be clear, as we say in our latest risk report, I think
  501. 32:33the risk from present models is low.
  502. 32:35What I'm worried about is superintelligence arising from recursive self-improvement, as
  503. 32:40we've said is happening faster than we thought.
  504. 32:43I assume that's what the recursive self-improvement is what you've just spoken about.
  505. 32:47Do you agree with him that the current model's the risk is low, but it's just the speed
  506. 32:53with which this is now improving?
  507. 32:55Exactly.
  508. 32:57I completely agree.
  509. 32:58Right now there's no risk of extinction.
  510. 33:01The current models, the worst they can do is maybe hack into something, potentially cause
  511. 33:05a lot of damages in infrastructure, but there's no, they're not intelligent enough to outsmart
  512. 33:11us at the level that would lead to extinction.
  513. 33:13I think what's just crazy is to look at the rate of progress and there is a very real possibility
  514. 33:20that in the immediate future, these years, like next year, the year after, the recursive
  515. 33:25self-improvement will happen and will enter the phase of Evan's post where he
  516. 33:30argues that there's a chance we could all die. Like that is coming soon. As with
  517. 33:36this and folks I have more I want to say but but one of the major things that
  518. 33:41Jacob Cox and he worked for OpenAI initially he felt like their ethical
  519. 33:44considerations were even worse to move over to an anthropic but now he's saying
  520. 33:49not even an anthropic is doing what's necessary in order to keep this product
  521. 33:54development on an ethnic court.
  522. 34:00When you look at the fundamental priorities that this administration has, rebuilding the
  523. 34:06American family through the various priorities, ensuring religious freedom is alive and well
  524. 34:11and flourishing in America, having a Department of Justice that is actually focused on enforcing
  525. 34:17the laws of the land, I have a hard time disagreeing with any of them.
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  540. 35:15Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton, the third
  541. 35:19here. So what's driving this? If, you know, you have all of these
  542. 35:25red flags, what was this all about guys? It's very, it's very
  543. 35:28simple in this regard. China is pushing for right now the whole AI arms race if you will is it is a two horse race
  544. 35:35It's the United States of America or it's China and so
  545. 35:41though American companies have identified ethical concerns and considerations
  546. 35:48the communist Chinese
  547. 35:50which by the way the theological underpinning of communism is
  548. 35:55atheism the communist Chinese don't care a bit about
  549. 36:00the ethical concerns so they're pushing forward full bore
  550. 36:05and so the conundrum has been well we don't want
  551. 36:09china to get it first was twofold obviously whoever
  552. 36:13achieves the most advanced ai first stands to make a whole lot of money so
  553. 36:17let's
  554. 36:17let's be real about that
  555. 36:20and in addition to that
  556. 36:21whoever makes the most ai first has capacity to control the aispace
  557. 36:26and if you have to ask whether or not you would want american corporations doing
  558. 36:29or you want the communist Chinese and it's a no-brainer who the answer would be.
  559. 36:36But I would urge caution because doing something like this and unleash it upon the world and not
  560. 36:43heating the warnings of people over and over and over again will prove detrimental. Now as I said,
  561. 36:54I'm sharing this with you so you can be aware so you would have the information not to provoke
  562. 36:58trepidation because the scriptures replete with instances where man has created something
  563. 37:07who they say they will, they will, that will, that will run the world.
  564. 37:13And God is the one who has a final say so.
  565. 37:15And I expect the same thing here.
  566. 37:17They've got ultimately would have the final say so, but you need to be aware of what's happening.
  567. 37:21You need to be aware that this is what people are pressing toward.
  568. 37:24I mean, I think it is certainly noteworthy.
  569. 37:30Again, I don't know this Jacob Cox and fellow,
  570. 37:33but here he is most likely standing in the face
  571. 37:36of a pretty significant wealth-producing event.
  572. 37:40And then he says, you know what?
  573. 37:42It's time for me to get off of this train.
  574. 37:45It's time for me to get off of this train.
  575. 37:47I think it's worth noting.
  576. 37:49I'm not saying you should be technology-averse.
  577. 37:51I'm not saying that you need to be in fear
  578. 37:54because God is ordained us for this time,
  579. 37:56is ordained us for this moment,
  580. 37:57but you do need to be aware.
  581. 37:59You do need to be aware.
  582. 38:03There are lots of people who are just so gung-ho
  583. 38:07about AI that they're not heating the concerns.
  584. 38:09There's some people who do not,
  585. 38:13only see detriments, don't see any potential for benefits.
  586. 38:16And you say, some people, all they see is benefits,
  587. 38:18and they're ignoring the detriment.
  588. 38:19But it's important when somebody who's been working
  589. 38:21on something like this for years comes out and says,
  590. 38:23listen, we're getting in above our heads on this man.
  591. 38:26We need to take a few steps back.
  592. 38:28We need to take a few steps back.
  593. 38:31And I want to say in light of, especially what I was saying
  594. 38:34in the first segment, that man, I am praying
  595. 38:38that the Lord would grace us with another awakening.
  596. 38:49It is historically been demonstrated that when God has
  597. 38:54poured out his spirit in the past, it often happened
  598. 38:56and during very, very dark times, during very, very dark times.
  599. 39:00And one of the things that had been consistent
  600. 39:04and various outpourings with the Lord's Spirit over time
  601. 39:07is that he would turn his people to prayer
  602. 39:10in a consistent and a dedicated manner.
  603. 39:13And I've been seeing that in my own life,
  604. 39:19and I see God moving more and more people in that direction.
  605. 39:22And I want to encourage you to pray for,
  606. 39:24I pray for the world show, but pray for our nation
  607. 39:26in particular, because there are lots of things that are happening, lots of things that are
  608. 39:31being revealed, and people are proposing all types of, you know, potential solutions, but
  609. 39:37not many of them include turning to the Lord. That's why I pointed out their scripture from
  610. 39:41Isaiah today in Isaiah chapter 9, that to have kind of an arrogance and a hubris even to say,
  611. 39:49we will rebuild with smooth stones, but not even considering how do we get to this place.
  612. 39:55I think that is an unwise course of action.
  613. 40:04All right, we're gonna go back
  614. 40:05to the state of Massachusetts for a moment.
  615. 40:08And I'll just warn you, this is heartbreaking.
  616. 40:11But I want you to listen closely.
  617. 40:12When I play this clip,
  618. 40:13I want you to listen closely for the way these events
  619. 40:19unfolded there.
  620. 40:22In the state of Massachusetts,
  621. 40:23you have a family,
  622. 40:25I wanna pronounce the name properly,
  623. 40:28the Kutsko family.
  624. 40:31And at the time in 2024, they had a 15 year old daughter.
  625. 40:38Mr. and Mrs. Cutsko had a 15 year old daughter.
  626. 40:43Unbeknownst to them, what you gonna hear,
  627. 40:47the school where she was going, Algonquin Regional High School,
  628. 40:51socially transitioned their daughter in secret.
  629. 41:00The little girl was a little girl
  630. 41:01when she was at home with her parents and her brother.
  631. 41:04Once you went to school, they were treating her
  632. 41:06as if she were a boy.
  633. 41:09the guidance counselor in particular was one of the people that encouraged the
  634. 41:15fifteen-year-old to embrace the social transition
  635. 41:19the fifteen-year-old came to school and shared
  636. 41:22that
  637. 41:23she attempted to to export her social transition from school
  638. 41:28to her home
  639. 41:29to which her
  640. 41:31parents
  641. 41:32who are devout catholics
  642. 41:35said they love their daughter too much to affirm a lie that they know their
  643. 41:38daughter was a girl and so
  644. 41:40They would not call their daughter,
  645. 41:44and treat their daughter as if she were a little boy.
  646. 41:48The 15 year old daughter shared that information
  647. 41:50with her counselor at school.
  648. 41:52Y'all know what happened next?
  649. 41:54The guidance counselor contacted the Massachusetts
  650. 41:57Department of Family Services.
  651. 42:00And the Massachusetts Department of Family Services
  652. 42:03forcibly removed the 15 year old child
  653. 42:06from her parental home.
  654. 42:11The Cutsco family have not seen their daughter
  655. 42:13since 2024. And they are now engaged in a court battle because the department at the Massachusetts
  656. 42:21Department of Children, the DCFS Department of Children's and Family Services is seeking
  657. 42:28lawful authority to administer testosterone to this little girl who's now a 17 year old
  658. 42:35teenager. Here's a clip is about one minute and 16 seconds or so describing this case is
  659. 42:44is clip number four, clip four, go.
  660. 42:47Oh, you know, Joseph and Arlene Kudzko
  661. 42:49haven't spoken to their daughter
  662. 42:50since the end of 2024 after the Department of Children
  663. 42:54and Family Services removed her from their home.
  664. 42:57Family claims it was because of their Catholic faith
  665. 42:59that would not allow them to affirm their daughter
  666. 43:02as a boy, an emotional Joseph Kudzko
  667. 43:04reading the birthday card as daughter Sophie gave him
  668. 43:07in October of 2024.
  669. 43:10Without you, I would have nothing.
  670. 43:12so fullheartedly, fully sincerely.
  671. 43:16I love you with no end.
  672. 43:18Less than three months later,
  673. 43:20child services removed Sophie from their home
  674. 43:22and accused them of abuse.
  675. 43:24The Cutsco say their daughter's school, Algonquin,
  676. 43:27regional high school in Southboro, Massachusetts,
  677. 43:30exposed Sophie to a culture steeped in gender ideology
  678. 43:33and blamed a school counselor for socially transitioning
  679. 43:36their daughter to becoming a boy
  680. 43:38without their knowledge or permission.
  681. 43:40They claimed the counselor contacted child services,
  682. 43:42the school had no comment regarding the allegations.
  683. 43:45Now DCF has assumed guardianship of their daughter,
  684. 43:48a permanent restraining order remains
  685. 43:50against Arlene and Joseph and Sophie's older brother.
  686. 43:53Her father and mother are distraught.
  687. 43:56Mother is too, please come on,
  688. 44:00mama, Miss, come back in here, please.
  689. 44:07Man, I so sad.
  690. 44:10That, you're talking about missing children,
  691. 44:15what do you do when the government takes your child?
  692. 44:20And I've warned about this, you know,
  693. 44:22these things were happening in other parts of the world.
  694. 44:29And I said these things would be coming here.
  695. 44:34And they have come here.
  696. 44:43I can't imagine not seeing my daughter since 2024.
  697. 44:49And the state has entered into a guardianship in which they have a permanent
  698. 44:54restraining order against the parents.
  699. 45:03Now, um, the cuts goes are being represented.
  700. 45:06I do think they will ultimately prevail in litigation.
  701. 45:14But think about this, man, at a minimum, a year and a half of your child's life to date,
  702. 45:19and they're not going to court tomorrow, so it's probably going to be longer than that
  703. 45:21from 2024, December of 2024.
  704. 45:26Until now, what I didn't tell you yet is that the Massachusetts DCFS has the little girl
  705. 45:36housed in a dorm with little boys.
  706. 45:41She's staying in housing with the boys that are in state custody.
  707. 45:45that's going. And this is interesting. A part of the litigation that's pending is that
  708. 45:55wild DCFS in Massachusetts is attempting to assert that this young Cutsco lady, the young
  709. 46:04lady is a boy that's seeking to provide birth control for her. Isn't that interesting?
  710. 46:11Isn't that interesting? I wonder how many other boys quote unquote are in DCFS custody that
  711. 46:16they're suing for the prerogative to be able to administer birth control.
  712. 46:23I wonder why they're doing that.
  713. 46:27Well, that's right, because in their worldview, boys can get pregnant.
  714. 46:29That's what it is, you see.
  715. 46:32Guys, this made me sick to my stomach to read this.
  716. 46:38You saw those Sunday girls parents, you think they don't love their child?
  717. 46:44And what gives the state the where we thought to say, well, we believe what we think,
  718. 46:49especially your child is best for your child, regardless of what you believe.
  719. 46:52And then we're going to take them.
  720. 46:53And then there's other thing.
  721. 46:55You think that they would have been able to forcibly remove that child from the home without the help of law enforcement?
  722. 47:03Guys, this this thinks what I'm saying that our country is not in a good place right now.
  723. 47:11Don't mistake me.
  724. 47:13This is the best nation in the world.
  725. 47:15What I'm telling you is that the barbarians are not at the gate.
  726. 47:17The barbarians have come through and this this this is heartbreaking.
  727. 47:26But if you notice the pattern, what was the pattern?
  728. 47:29They are a family of devout religious beliefs, yet they sent their child to Algonquin Regional High School.
  729. 47:37The school says, well, your parents may think one thing, but we have a different set of ideals.
  730. 47:44And so we will encourage you in this fashion.
  731. 47:48And it was at the school that the guidance counselor was one of the primary people,
  732. 47:55One of the primary people leading this child in social transition and unsurprisingly that
  733. 48:04the same guidance counselor is the one who called DCFS in the beginning from the school.
  734. 48:12When I tell you that the government school is not your friend, this is what I'm talking
  735. 48:16about and understand, you know, well, if I don't live in the Algonquin regional high
  736. 48:22school area in Massachusetts, okay, okay.
  737. 48:29I'm sad to report that I can show you this in places all around the country.
  738. 48:32This happened in Colorado.
  739. 48:33It's happened in other places all around the country.
  740. 48:37That a part of the thing that we have to come to terms with is the very fact that the school
  741. 48:45is not a sufficient replacement for the parents.
  742. 48:51And when the Cusco family prevails on litigation, you guys know the drill.
  743. 48:57You think that guidance counselor is going to feel any pain from this?
  744. 49:00Nope.
  745. 49:03Who's going to be in the hook for it?
  746. 49:04The Massachusetts taxpayers.
  747. 49:07So unless there is a comprehensive reckoning, and do you think also that this is just a
  748. 49:21coincidence that this happened in the same state where the mom strangled her children.
  749. 49:28And one of the jurors came out and said, we knew in this case that we were going to be
  750. 49:34able to make a statement for women.
  751. 49:36Did you see that?
  752. 49:37Did y'all see that?
  753. 49:38Oh, yeah.
  754. 49:39One of the other jurors said, well, we knew this would be a case that we would be able
  755. 49:42to make a change.
  756. 49:43This would be a statement for women.
  757. 49:47But I thought you weren't supposed to be watching stuff on them, who's meeting all of that?
  758. 49:54My point in presenting this to you guys is just like Isaiah said on Isaiah 9 verse 9 and
  759. 50:0010 that breaks are falling.
  760. 50:04It would be unwise for us to press forward in Eric and to say, but we will rebuild.
  761. 50:08Guys, we have to turn back to the Lord.
  762. 50:11Would you join me in praying that the Lord would grace us by His Spirit, not because we
  763. 50:15deserve it because frankly we do not, but because our God is rich in mercy.
  764. 50:19grace us with an outpouring of his spirit, with an awakening of our nation, but we would
  765. 50:24once again recognize that the greatness of a nation is determined by our posture concerning
  766. 50:34the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords.
  767. 50:39The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American
  768. 50:44Family Association or American Family Radio.

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