The Hamilton Corner

August 18, 2026 · 47:46

("Best-of" Edition from 8/2/23) Tim Barton, President of Wallbuilders, steps into “The Corner.”

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0:00 - 15:00. Philippians 3:1. Repetition is a safeguard. 15:00 - 31:00. Tim Barton, President of Wallbuilders, steps into “The Corner.” 31:00 - 48:00. Everyone should know the real Adams Family history.

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  1. 0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
  2. 0:02It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
  3. 0:06This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
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  11. 0:32Good evening.
  12. 0:33Welcome to the Hamilton Corner here on American Family Radio.
  13. 0:36I'm your host, Abraham Hamilton.
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  15. 0:41produced extraordinary, often imitated, but never, never,
  16. 0:45never, never, duplicated.
  17. 0:48And we are ready to rock and roll with today's edition
  18. 0:51of the program at this very moment.
  19. 0:53Many of you, if not most of you, are transitioning
  20. 0:57from your part time jobs where you generate an income to your full time jobs where you
  21. 1:02cultivate an outcome. And as you do so, I want to encourage you and to remind you of the
  22. 1:10reality that family is the first human institution that God ordained and established with marriage
  23. 1:16at the center. The first command that God gave to mankind was issued within the familial
  24. 1:22context before you have monarchies, before you have orders of priests, before you have orders
  25. 1:28of prophets, before you have the establishment of the modern civil government, the first human
  26. 1:33institution the Lord establishes is the family. And he did that intentionally and recorded it
  27. 1:38for his posterity and for our edification so that we would know the primacy that he places
  28. 1:44on family. It is the institution God ordained family as the primary multi-generational discipleship
  29. 1:53mechanism that exists. This is why when you search the scriptures, you'll find that the
  30. 1:58responsibility to make disciples of children born into Christian households, it's not the responsibility
  31. 2:05of the church corporately. It is not the responsibility of your favorite youth pastor. The first response,
  32. 2:11the first persons who are responsible for evangelizing, catechizing, and making disciples
  33. 2:19of the children born into Christian families are the parents. The parents, we as parents,
  34. 2:26are responsible for this. This is why we should recognize that no matter where you are, if God
  35. 2:33has blessed you to be a parent, you are called to be a disciple maker. Now, the commitment is
  36. 2:39is required of us, not because we can guarantee by our investment what the receipt of that
  37. 2:46investment will be.
  38. 2:47We cannot guarantee that our children will be born again, but what we are required to
  39. 2:52do is to be faithful and obedient.
  40. 2:55You and me will be held accountable.
  41. 2:57We will be held accountable by God for the quality with which, the degree to which we
  42. 3:02have been obedient and faithful to Him as we have shepherded His heritage.
  43. 3:09commitment is to faithfulness and obedience, not to outcomes. God calls us to be faithful,
  44. 3:17to be faithful. And if you really want to know what the larger story of the American
  45. 3:27regression has been, it has been the story, frankly, of the world being more passionately
  46. 3:32commitment to multi-generational discipleship than the body of Christ. If you want to drill right
  47. 3:39down to it, that is what has happened. Now, thanks be to God, that does not have to continue to be
  48. 3:45the case because as we submit ourselves afresh to the truth of God's Word, because we submit ourselves
  49. 3:52afresh to the God of his Word, we have the opportunity to repent and as far as it concerns you and me,
  50. 4:02personally and individually, we can implement the evidence of that repentance starting right in our
  51. 4:08own homes. When Jesus gave the disciples to Great Commission, he instructed them that they were to
  52. 4:17be His witnesses. You have been doing it with power to be My witnesses in Judea, in Jerusalem,
  53. 4:23in Judea, into Sumerian, to the other most parts of the world. Now, I'm not saying that all of them
  54. 4:27were from Judea as a homeland, but it established, it served as the foundation, the base, if you will,
  55. 4:34for ministry there.
  56. 4:36And so what the Lord was conveying is that you start
  57. 4:39at the home base first and you worked outward from there.
  58. 4:43Well, we have the opportunities to start
  59. 4:45with our commitment to execute our king's commission
  60. 4:48at our home base.
  61. 4:49And so I wanna encourage you to do so.
  62. 4:51This is why I describe what we do to generate revenue,
  63. 4:53to generate income as our part time work.
  64. 4:55Because our full time work as Christ followers
  65. 4:58is to first and foremost live the lifestyle of worship,
  66. 5:01which is typified by obedience.
  67. 5:04the most immediate outflow of that obedience,
  68. 5:06following our personal commitment to holiness,
  69. 5:08is to execute our Lord's commission
  70. 5:10right at our home base, starting at our home base.
  71. 5:14All right, to the word of God we go, man,
  72. 5:16I'm excited about today's show, I'm excited about it.
  73. 5:19But we're gonna begin in Philippians chapter three,
  74. 5:21verse one, just one verse for today,
  75. 5:24Philippians chapter three, verse one.
  76. 5:27And the Apostle Paul is writing, and here he says,
  77. 5:30Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord to write the same things again is no trouble to me.
  78. 5:39And it is a safeguard to you. The Apostle Paul said something, sorry, the Apostle Peter said
  79. 5:46something very similar. For me to reiterate what I've said to you previously is a safeguard for you.
  80. 5:52What I want to share, and I've mentioned this on this program before, is that we have to resist a
  81. 5:58human temptation to always want to have something new. We shared that already. We need to have
  82. 6:06something new. You know, the Apostle Jude said that the faith has been once and for all passed
  83. 6:12down to us, his saints. You actually should be wary when somebody comes to you saying, Hey, man,
  84. 6:18look, they got this new thing to add to you for the gospel. Hey, no new gospel chief.
  85. 6:24Hey, no new gospel.
  86. 6:26In fact, the positive eye or an angel show up presenting you another gospel, let him be
  87. 6:31accursed.
  88. 6:32There's no new gospel.
  89. 6:33The faith that we have has been once and for all passed down to the saints.
  90. 6:37That is millennia old, millennia old and repeating the truths of scripture, giving what God has
  91. 6:46given us.
  92. 6:47It is word that the Lord has established for our benefit.
  93. 6:51It is no trouble.
  94. 6:53Should be for the believer.
  95. 6:54as the Apostle Paul's articulated here in chapter 3 verse 1 in the Epistle to the Philippians,
  96. 6:59that it is a safe guard.
  97. 7:04So as you go about your lives and you're engaging in executing our Lord's commission and making
  98. 7:09disciples, starting first with your children, do not grow weary of repeating the same eternal
  99. 7:16truths from God's Word that you may have spoken before.
  100. 7:19Just because you've said it doesn't mean that it's been called.
  101. 7:23One of the things that's necessary in endeavoring to inculcate faith in our children is repetition.
  102. 7:29When the scripture says, as the apostle Paul is writing to the Romans, says faith comes by
  103. 7:34hearing, hearing by the word of God.
  104. 7:37What may not be obvious is that the tense that is employed there as the phrase rendered
  105. 7:44comes by hearing, what is included in the Greek rendering of this verbiage is that it
  106. 7:49It comes by hearing with repetition repeatedly over and over and over, not to be mundane, not
  107. 7:56to be monotonous, not to be redundant for the sake of redundancy, but when you have the eternal
  108. 8:03truths of God accessible to you, it is incumbent upon us, not merely to read it, not merely to
  109. 8:11go over it.
  110. 8:12But as David said, to meditate on it, to meditate on it day and night, there is great safety.
  111. 8:19God available to us when we repeat the eternal truths of God's Word.
  112. 8:29You can never discuss the fruit of the Spirit too much.
  113. 8:32You can never discuss God's righteous requirement too much.
  114. 8:35You can never reiterate the fact that God has expectations and standards for His covenant
  115. 8:41people.
  116. 8:43You know, I've been talking a bit and I shared some of this at the Marriage Family Life Conference
  117. 8:482023.
  118. 8:50And you see the entirety of scripture, you know, and a lot of people are familiar with the
  119. 8:55account when other touches the ark and the ark stumble and there's a great temptation to
  120. 9:01you know, impose upon God and impose upon his word an isegetical humanistic morality, you
  121. 9:06know, what's going on there?
  122. 9:09Like that's so mean.
  123. 9:10Other than do nobody, nothing, you know, but if you survey description, you delve a bit
  124. 9:17deep where you'll find what God is revealing of himself and what God is
  125. 9:21revealing of mankind and what God is revealing of his requirements where it's
  126. 9:26coming to people. You you'll recall that under saw the Philistines defeated the
  127. 9:31Israelites and took the Ark of the Covenant, you know, and the Ark was in
  128. 9:36the Philistine territory for seven months to scripture records and the Philistines
  129. 9:42initially misinterpreted their temporary military victory because they thought
  130. 9:46because they defeated the Israelite army that also that
  131. 9:49meant that the God of Israel been defeated to which Qleecorso
  132. 9:55not so fast, my friend, you know, simply because the Lord allowed
  133. 9:59the Philistine army at that juncture to serve as the means of
  134. 10:04discipline for Israel doesn't mean that they had toppled God from
  135. 10:09his throne. So when they initially got the Ark of the Covenant
  136. 10:12and put it in the temple of their pagan God, they gone. They
  137. 10:18He came back in later on and found, oh, the statue had fallen.
  138. 10:23They tried to put the statue back up, picked it up again, came back again later.
  139. 10:29Fell again, this time the head was locked off of the statue.
  140. 10:32Then we get to realize, oh, it seems like this may be the doings of the God of Israel.
  141. 10:39So for seven months, they circulated the Ark of the Covenant through various Egyptian
  142. 10:44Philistine cities.
  143. 10:45And when plagues broke out, almost like the plagues in Egypt, and it had plagues of mice
  144. 10:50and you have plagues of tumors and the tumors weren't really internal growth,
  145. 10:54they were actually external. The reason why we know this is that the the phyllis
  146. 10:57things when they began to surmise what's going on, speckled into what's going on,
  147. 11:01they believed they started to say, wait a minute, this must be the God of Israel.
  148. 11:04So they said, we need to make an offering, a peace offering to the God of Israel.
  149. 11:08And they made golden replicas of the mice and the tumors indicating that they recognize,
  150. 11:15well, we see this, this is what you're doing. And the Bible says that they opened the ark and put it
  151. 11:19inside. Now, you know, the commands that the Lord gave the people of Israel concerning the
  152. 11:24ark that they weren't to open it. Not only that, they would furnish the sick man, if this is really
  153. 11:32the God of Israel. What we're going to do, we're going to take a nursing cow, a cow mom,
  154. 11:37and a just had her baby calf. And she's nursing because we know nursing cows not trying to be
  155. 11:45anywhere separate from their babies. So they made the decision, we're going to hitch a nursing
  156. 11:55cow to a cart and allow the cart to go and we'll see because if this is in fact the
  157. 12:03God of Israel the cow was gonna make a beeline straight for the Israelite
  158. 12:07territory and lo and behold what happens they put the nursing cow attached her to
  159. 12:12the cart as soon as she's attached the cow instantly takes off from Philistine
  160. 12:18territory walking toward the land of Israel the Philistines put spies to watch
  161. 12:26Watch the cart as it traveled.
  162. 12:29And they follow, say, oh, snap, the cow is walking towards Israel.
  163. 12:33And the cow walks all the way until it gets to the border, the territory between the Philistine
  164. 12:39territory and the nation of Israel and stops and stands there.
  165. 12:44That's all in your Bible.
  166. 12:45That's in 1st, Samuel, chapter 4, all the way to verse chapter 7.
  167. 12:49It stops and stands there.
  168. 12:51In all of that, the Lord is revealing he didn't have an issue with carts.
  169. 12:56And then even his issue doesn't prevent the Philistines from opening the ark and putting
  170. 13:06their pagan ignorant offerings into it.
  171. 13:10But when you contrast that with what transpired with the Israelites, the Lord is revealing
  172. 13:18that he has heightened requirement, heightened requirements for his covenant people.
  173. 13:25He's revealing what also that Aaron learned in Leviticus chapter 10 verse 3, and those
  174. 13:30who draw near me, I must be regarded as holy.
  175. 13:33My covenant people, the Levites, were to carry
  176. 13:36the presence of God in the ark
  177. 13:38on their shoulders to bear up under the weight.
  178. 13:40There's a heightened requirement, heightened requirement
  179. 13:44for God's covenant people.
  180. 13:48Repetition of this phenomenon is a safeguard.
  181. 13:52It's a safeguard.
  182. 13:54It's not something that's gonna be like,
  183. 13:55well, I just wanna remain a strain from the Lord
  184. 13:57because here we are in the New Testament context.
  185. 14:02where John chapter three verse 16 is often quoted.
  186. 14:06But John chapter three verse 17 is also in the Bible.
  187. 14:09And it says, for those who reject the Christ,
  188. 14:13they are condemned already.
  189. 14:15The condemnation is a rejection of the Messiah
  190. 14:18who's been offered as a free gift,
  191. 14:21whose atoning sacrifices makes salvation available
  192. 14:24to whosoever will let them come.
  193. 14:28Don't be afraid or dismayed or tempted into thinking
  194. 14:33that repetition is boring, same old, same old.
  195. 14:36We need to fresh this latest new,
  196. 14:38it's something new hips, hip, hip,
  197. 14:39hip, hip, hip, hip, hip, hip,
  198. 14:41repetition is a blessing and it's a safeguard
  199. 14:45when it's repetition of the eternal truths of God's Word.
  200. 14:48There's a reason why all throughout the scripture,
  201. 14:51Genesis to Revelation, the Lord says to his people
  202. 14:53over and over and over again, remember.
  203. 15:06Shiting light into the darkness,
  204. 15:08this is the Hamilton Corner, an American family radio.
  205. 15:12Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner Abraham Hamilton the third here.
  206. 15:15It is my distinct honor and pleasure to have on the program with me, none other than Tim Barton,
  207. 15:22president of wall builders.
  208. 15:24If you are not familiar with wall builders, where have you been?
  209. 15:28Come out from under the rock where you have been sleeping.
  210. 15:31Wall builders is an organization dedicated to presenting America's forgotten history and heroes
  211. 15:37with an emphasis on the moral, religious, and constitutional foundation on which America
  212. 15:44has been constructed.
  213. 15:46Tim Barton is a brother in Christ.
  214. 15:48He is a husband.
  215. 15:50He is a father.
  216. 15:51He's a man of God.
  217. 15:52And frankly, he and his family have been a tremendous blessing to our nation and a blessing
  218. 15:56to me personally.
  219. 15:57It is my honor to have on the program, Mr. Tim Barton.
  220. 16:00Thank you for joining me, Tim.
  221. 16:02Man, my pleasure.
  222. 16:03Thanks for having me on.
  223. 16:04Oh, man, the pleasure is certainly, certainly mine.
  224. 16:07I know you heard me share the story numerous times,
  225. 16:10but I'm gonna share it now for the audience.
  226. 16:13I will never forget I was 14 or 15 years old
  227. 16:16at my church in New Orleans, Louisiana.
  228. 16:18And I remember coming to service.
  229. 16:20Our, we had two Sunday morning services at that time.
  230. 16:24Our larger service was actually a 7 a.m. service.
  231. 16:27I would get there at 6.30.
  232. 16:29And I remember seeing a man putting these huge books
  233. 16:33across the entire front of the platform.
  234. 16:35Didn't know who he was.
  235. 16:37And I was just intrigued from that portion on.
  236. 16:39And the man I learned his name later,
  237. 16:42his name was David Barton.
  238. 16:44And he did a series of sermons really,
  239. 16:48and lectures on Americans for God and History.
  240. 16:50And so that helped shape the trajectory of my life,
  241. 16:54and the way that God ended up moving me.
  242. 16:56And so I get to talk to you now,
  243. 16:58who is the president of the organization
  244. 17:01that your dad founded.
  245. 17:03And you have your unique gifts, talents, and abilities
  246. 17:05as you take as you take in the helm of the organization.
  247. 17:09And so I wanted to have you on a Hamilton corner
  248. 17:11just to present our audience here with an opportunity
  249. 17:14to learn some things about America's forgotten history.
  250. 17:17I would argue sometimes intentionally concealed history.
  251. 17:21But what are some of the things
  252. 17:22that from our history and founding
  253. 17:24that you think are pertinent and necessary
  254. 17:26for every American to be aware of?
  255. 17:29Well, I appreciate the setup.
  256. 17:31And also I want to maybe tie a little bow
  257. 17:33kind of connect some of the doctor that story too.
  258. 17:36As you mentioned, my dad was setting out all these old books on the stage.
  259. 17:40We've been very blessed over the last 35 years, give or take.
  260. 17:45We've been able to compile what's considered one of the largest private collections
  261. 17:49of original documents from the founding era.
  262. 17:51And as we try to present history, we go back to the original documents.
  263. 17:55We actually have letters and journals and diaries from guys like George Washington,
  264. 17:59and Benjamin Franklin, and John Hancock, and Thomas Jefferson, John Adams,
  265. 18:03all the noted names of founding fathers, we actually have their writings and what makes
  266. 18:07it different is in a modern, I guess, academic kind of movement. We've been told that just
  267. 18:13trust the experts, right? We definitely heard this a lot during COVID, but it's true in the
  268. 18:16academic world as well. We're told, right? These professors, they have all knowledge, they're
  269. 18:21all knowing just trust what they say, do what they do. And when my dad first started actually
  270. 18:26reading some original documents back in the 80s, he was blown away by how different it was
  271. 18:31from what he had originally heard and he realized that the founding fathers contrary
  272. 18:37to the notion of the separation church of state that they didn't want to secularize
  273. 18:40America they had actually worked to keep God at the center of what we were doing in America
  274. 18:45and and he found this in their writings he found this in their letters which is just incredibly
  275. 18:50evident if you actually studied their writings with that being said one of the things that he
  276. 18:54really felt the challenge of God was a little bit like the story of Nehemiah from the Bible where
  277. 18:58where Nehemiah was part of the Israelites,
  278. 19:00when they were in that Babylonian captivity,
  279. 19:02and Nehemiah is the cupboard of the king,
  280. 19:04but he saw Jerusalem torn down at the man.
  281. 19:06We need to help restore our nation.
  282. 19:09And Nehemiah with the blessing of the king
  283. 19:11goes back and rebuilds Jerusalem.
  284. 19:12And in Nehemiah 2.17, he says,
  285. 19:14come let us rebuild the walls
  286. 19:15that when they no longer be reproach the people.
  287. 19:17And God really felt like that was kind of his calling,
  288. 19:20the diverse of our organization, of our ministry,
  289. 19:23was that God was calling us to rebuild the walls of America,
  290. 19:26which is where the name wall builders came from.
  291. 19:29And so with that being said,
  292. 19:30as we look at the original documents and study history,
  293. 19:33it is crazy to me where the modern conversation has gone
  294. 19:37that right now only 18% of young people,
  295. 19:40the rising generation, only 18% say they're proud
  296. 19:43to be American.
  297. 19:44In fact, we now are a little below 50%
  298. 19:49of Americans that are proud to be American.
  299. 19:50And it's not just because maybe we have political leaders
  300. 19:53that we disagree with, it's because for decades,
  301. 19:56We have been learning in schools, learning in all kinds of academic and educational structures
  302. 20:02that America is fundamentally evil, that we've done more bad than we've done good.
  303. 20:06And that's why if you talk to students today, they can tell you more bad things about America
  304. 20:09than good things about America, which can only be correct based on their perspective if you go to any
  305. 20:16third world nation. And what I always tell parents and young people is if you want to help your young
  306. 20:20people out, young people, if you want to help yourself out, find a church that takes emissions
  307. 20:24trips, the Third World Nation, and go on a two-wing mission trip. Go see what life looks
  308. 20:28like in the rest of the world because you can't have a proper perspective of the uniqueness
  309. 20:33and the blessings of America if you don't recognize the challenges the rest of the world is facing
  310. 20:38at unprecedented levels compared to what Americans deal with. So what we try to do is just tell the
  311. 20:45honest story. We think it's more of the biblical approach. We're in the Bible. If you read the
  312. 20:50the Old Testament, it shows the good, the bad and the ugly.
  313. 20:53It shows in Israel.
  314. 20:54There were great kings and there were awful kings, evil kings.
  315. 20:57Some of the kings had really good moments
  316. 20:59and then had really bad moments,
  317. 21:00but the Bible unapologetically tells the whole story.
  318. 21:03The modern narrative today is we're only learning
  319. 21:07a part of the story and it's part of the story we're learning.
  320. 21:10It's not even always a true story,
  321. 21:11but the part of the story we're learning
  322. 21:12is how bad America is.
  323. 21:14And that's just fundamentally not correct
  324. 21:16in context and perspective, it's not historically accurate.
  325. 21:19And so we try to restore some of the truth of American history,
  326. 21:23not saying that America didn't make mistakes,
  327. 21:24not saying that there weren't evil leaders at times
  328. 21:26who did evil things,
  329. 21:27but it's recognizing that what America is being accused of
  330. 21:31is different in the reality of what she did.
  331. 21:33Most of the sins today that people accuse America of
  332. 21:36are not the sins she was guilty of.
  333. 21:38We committed plenty of sins,
  334. 21:40it's just maybe not the ones we're being accused of
  335. 21:42at the level that we're being accused of,
  336. 21:44but then if that makes sense.
  337. 21:45Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
  338. 21:46And you said so much that was valuable in which you just shared,
  339. 21:50but one of the main things you said is original source,
  340. 21:54original sources, not just parroting what was heard
  341. 21:58from someone who's grandma,
  342. 22:00who's uncle said this about the nation,
  343. 22:02but looking at the original documentation.
  344. 22:04And so one of the major things,
  345. 22:07and I guess let's just hit this right from the beginning.
  346. 22:09I have more things I wanna get into,
  347. 22:12but one of, in my estimation,
  348. 22:14the heroic salient and
  349. 22:18estimable families in american history
  350. 22:20that i believe every american needs to be aware of is the family
  351. 22:24of john adam's the real adam's family
  352. 22:27uh... would you share that with our listeners and our viewers of bit about
  353. 22:31the reality of the legacy of the adam's family
  354. 22:35absolutely and and to your point
  355. 22:37they are one of
  356. 22:38the more forgotten
  357. 22:41families that are arguably
  358. 22:43arguably the most significant family yes as far as a legacy goes in american
  359. 22:47history
  360. 22:48uh... because certainly you can look at that
  361. 22:50people that were noted whether it be a george washington whether
  362. 22:53it be a thomas deveren abraham lincoln you can look at people that were very
  363. 22:57important
  364. 22:58but their family legacy didn't always
  365. 23:01i continue to the same level as
  366. 23:04what for example john adam's he's he's the first vice president becomes a second
  367. 23:08president america will his son john quite the atom
  368. 23:10becomes the sixth president of america
  369. 23:13also kind of worth noting on adam's is the guy that during the american
  370. 23:17revolution he is the american ambassador over to great britain
  371. 23:21he's one of the guys who helps
  372. 23:23negotiate the end of the american revolution
  373. 23:25well john quinty adam's is the american ambassador during the war eighteen twelve
  374. 23:29again another war with great britain
  375. 23:31under president madison john quinty adam's if the american ambassador to great
  376. 23:35britain who negotiate the end of the war of eighteen twelve and then quite
  377. 23:39interestingly, John Quincy Adams son, Charles Francis Adams, is an ambassador over to Great
  378. 23:46Britain this time during the Civil War. And this one is also a super interesting connection
  379. 23:51as far as some of the history details that during the Civil War the Confederate States
  380. 23:57recording Great Britain, recording France, were trying to find allies because for the North
  381. 24:03that's where so much immigration was happening. And so they were able to continue to grow their
  382. 24:07army and build their army through new immigrants coming in, but the South, they didn't have the
  383. 24:13immigration stations the same way they did up north. And so they're struggling to grow their army and
  384. 24:18as battles are happening, their armies are being depleted, they need more supplies. So they begin
  385. 24:22courting Great Britain and France, among others that they're putting out requests for help to.
  386. 24:26And Great Britain and France are pretty close to, it looks like, at least historically on paper,
  387. 24:33looks like they're getting close to maybe siding with the Confederates. And you know what, we're
  388. 24:37We're gonna be with you because we never like those
  389. 24:39Northern guys anyway, we're gonna help you out in this.
  390. 24:42Charles Francis Adams goes to them and says,
  391. 24:44guys, you ought to hold on for a little bit.
  392. 24:47There's something bigger at play, right?
  393. 24:50This isn't merely a state's right issue.
  394. 24:53This is not merely an internal conflict.
  395. 24:55This is something much bigger.
  396. 24:56And he began to tell them that one of the fundamental issues
  397. 25:00in the Civil War was the issue of slavery.
  398. 25:02And he explained to them, if you'll wait just a little bit,
  399. 25:06President Lincoln is going to make it very, very clear.
  400. 25:07Well, President Lincoln comes out with an anticipation proclamation.
  401. 25:10At that point, it's very clear that this internal conflict, the major component in this
  402. 25:15is a slavery component.
  403. 25:17At that point, Great Britain and France, they've already ended slavery.
  404. 25:19They had been against the slave trade a long time until they come out and say, okay, if
  405. 25:23it's slavery, we're not supporting a nation or a startup nation, so to speak, a Confederacy
  406. 25:28that is wanting to extend slavery.
  407. 25:30So we're off.
  408. 25:32is quite remarkable is John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Charles Francis Adams, all of them negotiated,
  409. 25:38helping America find peace in the midst of major conflict, but also all three of them were
  410. 25:44major anti-slavery advocates.
  411. 25:46And everything that's largely overlooked when people talk about the founding fathers.
  412. 25:50And you hear this all the time.
  413. 25:52Yes.
  414. 25:53And obviously in our circles, when we are people that are helping share news and kind of,
  415. 25:59In some level, create truthful narratives as opposed to a lot of the dishonesty and so
  416. 26:04there's an economy of what we're trying to show people like this is what actually happened.
  417. 26:08This is the truth, helping people navigate what that is.
  418. 26:11There is so much nonsense being espoused.
  419. 26:14One of them about how the accusations that all the Founding Fathers or all of America
  420. 26:19is racist, right?
  421. 26:20This is one of the things certainly paraded by the 1619 project.
  422. 26:23It's something that critical race theory largely teaches that all the Founding Fathers
  423. 26:26are racist evil individuals.
  424. 26:28although in like full disclosure right telling the whole story the good about the ugly in full
  425. 26:33disclosure there certainly were some right to finding fathers however the majority of them
  426. 26:38were not racist and you also have examples of guys like john Adams someone who never owned
  427. 26:44slaves and fought against slavery his entire life well john Adams raises his son john quincey
  428. 26:51Adams in the midst of the american revolution and john Adams also a lot of background in his
  429. 26:57story and we could spend hours on any one of their stories, whether it be John Adams or
  430. 27:02John Quincy or Charles Francis and obviously we don't have time for that.
  431. 27:04So I'm going to focus a little bit more on John Quincy because his story is so fun.
  432. 27:09But John Adams makes himself a noted name as an attorney.
  433. 27:13He is a firebrand speaking out for freedom against tyranny and oppression.
  434. 27:19Well, as a revolution unfolds, he's a major voice in the Continental Congress.
  435. 27:24His family is growing up and they're in Massachusetts.
  436. 27:26As they grew up, the family abigail his wife and then his son, John Quincy Adams, they're
  437. 27:32actually at the Battle of Bunker Hill.
  438. 27:33They're watching from the hillside.
  439. 27:35They watched their family doctor, their personal friend, Dr. Joseph Lauren get murdered in essence
  440. 27:40by the British.
  441. 27:41She was wounded in the battle and after the battle was over, they came over and they
  442. 27:43bane it into the death.
  443. 27:44They were not going to get in medical help.
  444. 27:46They said, no, we're killing this dude.
  445. 27:47So he's literally murdered on the battlefield at that point because the battle, right, in essence,
  446. 27:52like he's done.
  447. 27:53He's out of fight.
  448. 27:54Anyway.
  449. 27:55So this is when John Quincy Adams eight years old as that the war unfolds it is very evident
  450. 28:02and John Adams mind that this is really on our family's doorstep and we're going to be
  451. 28:08part of the bloody conflict whether we want to or not.
  452. 28:11So the Massachusetts Minute Men, one of the places they would do drills was in front of
  453. 28:16John Adams home.
  454. 28:17And at one point John Adams tells John Quincy Adams, hey you got to get your musket, you need
  455. 28:22get out there you got to start learning how to how to work the musket
  456. 28:25learning how to do this because
  457. 28:27before you know you might need to still he's only eight years old and he's
  458. 28:30out training with the military the eight-year-old
  459. 28:33when he's ten years old john
  460. 28:34adam's eyes
  461. 28:35going on diplomatic mission over to france and john quinti adam's
  462. 28:39uh... scorches father is actually the official secretary for the delegation
  463. 28:42for his father
  464. 28:44uh... when he's fourteen years old
  465. 28:45he gets a second assignment from congress congress actually assigned a
  466. 28:49fourteen-year-old
  467. 28:50as part of a a ambassador delegation over to russia will the reason john kwan
  468. 28:55d'adam's got the assignment is
  469. 28:57as a fourteen-year-old he was already fluent in six languages
  470. 29:00uh... he ends up being over in europe a lot with his father as a revolution
  471. 29:04comes to an end
  472. 29:05uh... john adam's actually over
  473. 29:08in europe wall the constitution is written then
  474. 29:10when george washington becomes president he's chosen vice president he comes back
  475. 29:14well when george washington is looking for ambassadors
  476. 29:17he was so impressed john quindy and i'm to done some writing and it was printed
  477. 29:21paper
  478. 29:22george washington red is that is good amazing
  479. 29:24it didn't and actually washington know who was the first he said this writer is
  480. 29:27amazing
  481. 29:28come to find out was john adam's son
  482. 29:30who at the time of nineteen twenty years old and what washington is point but
  483. 29:33right like this this could be a big guy
  484. 29:36washington assigned to go be an ambassador for america
  485. 29:40and while he's over in in europe washington actually writes about him
  486. 29:45that he is the best ambassador that america hat he is the the the best guy we have over
  487. 29:50in europe
  488. 29:51uh... when john at it becomes president john quincey adam
  489. 29:54is an ambassador under his father
  490. 29:56when jefferson gim's president john quincey adam's elected to be a u s senator
  491. 30:00when that it became president
  492. 30:02he recruited adam's again to come back and be an ambassador
  493. 30:06uh... which i mentioned he negotiated the end of the war of eighteen twelve
  494. 30:09when maro became president he became the secretary of state under maro
  495. 30:12and then john kwanji out of the king six president united states of america
  496. 30:16which is arguably the most impressive resume
  497. 30:19of any president ever
  498. 30:21especially when it comes to a guy who personally knew every single-founding
  499. 30:24father
  500. 30:24or it was meant toward by guy like george washington just absolutely amazing
  501. 30:29after being president though
  502. 30:30he he lost to andrew jackson
  503. 30:33and he was at that point john kwanji's trying to figure out what you know do
  504. 30:36it's a lot of because
  505. 30:37he still has a lot of passion but what what can you do to make a difference in
  506. 30:41and he ends up being elected to Congress.
  507. 30:42He wasn't even running.
  508. 30:43He was recruited, his name was put on the ballot.
  509. 30:45He was not campaigning, he wasn't running,
  510. 30:47but his state chosen to be a Congressman.
  511. 30:50And he decided that there was a great evil
  512. 30:53that needs to be remedied, and it was the evil of slavery.
  513. 30:55He became the leader of the anti-slavery movement in Congress.
  514. 30:58And for 17 years, he fought against slavery.
  515. 31:02Interestingly, his last year in Congress,
  516. 31:05which just for everybody listening to remember Congress,
  517. 31:08every two years you have elections in Congress.
  518. 31:10So as he's there for in essence, roughly nine terms.
  519. 31:15I mean, Diden is his ninth term there,
  520. 31:17but as he's there for all these terms,
  521. 31:20he's seeing new people elected every two years.
  522. 31:22His last term, there was a young freshman elected
  523. 31:24who became a member of the anti-slavery movement.
  524. 31:27Let me interrupt you right there
  525. 31:28because music is coming on.
  526. 31:30And guys, you wanna stay close
  527. 31:32because you wanna hear this connection.
  528. 31:34But the reality is John Quincy Adams
  529. 31:36can rightly be described in my opinion
  530. 31:39as an American, William Wilberforce in a lot of ways.
  531. 31:43But I'm gonna pause right here
  532. 31:44because I want you to see the connection
  533. 31:45that Tim is gonna make to show the continuity
  534. 31:50of the anti-slavery moving in America,
  535. 31:52led so long by John Quincy Adams.
  536. 31:55You wanna see who is successor maybe.
  537. 32:07Hamilton Quarter podcast and One-Minute Common Terrets
  538. 32:10are available at eFR.net.
  539. 32:12Back to the Hamilton Quarter on American Family Radio.
  540. 32:17Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner.
  541. 32:18My guest is president of wall builders, Tim Barton.
  542. 32:21He was explaining the life and legacy of the Adams family.
  543. 32:25We're focusing specifically at this point on John Quincy Adams.
  544. 32:28We got right to the point to where after being president, a remarkable teenager.
  545. 32:33You're talking about fluent in six languages about a time he's 14.
  546. 32:36Serving as a foreign ambassador, his writings impressed George Washington so much.
  547. 32:41So George Washington is like, who is this cat?
  548. 32:43He learns that this is a young man.
  549. 32:45that gives you a lot of different perception of adolescents in that time period versus where
  550. 32:49we are today. But after being president, and then being six, the six president of the United
  551. 32:55States, losing a subsequent election, but still recognizing that as more that needs to be
  552. 33:01done, there's a great evil that must be eradicated. He takes on the mantle of the anti-slavery
  553. 33:08movement in Congress for roughly nine term, 17 years. And so that's where we left off
  554. 33:13before the break and tomorrow
  555. 33:14toss it back to you
  556. 33:15uh... to pick up right there to continue
  557. 33:17uh... to to put up a button on john quincey adam's is
  558. 33:21uh... story
  559. 33:23perfect so as as john quincey adam is in congress he becomes a leader of the
  560. 33:26anti-slaver movement and
  561. 33:27and and also john quincey adam's attorney as father been attorney
  562. 33:31and they were both very good attorneys john quincey adam's actually argued
  563. 33:34many cases for the u-sopran court
  564. 33:36one of the cases worth mentioning
  565. 33:38happen while he was in congress and
  566. 33:41he was a very very famous person as you might imagine
  567. 33:44the guy who knew every founding father personally
  568. 33:47who served
  569. 33:48under virtually every single president administration or at least
  570. 33:51was a u s senator jennifer send but every other president's administration he was
  571. 33:55part of the team is part of the staff
  572. 33:57it is a very noted famous guy
  573. 34:00there is a very famous
  574. 34:01anti-slavery case and it was called the oma-spot case and
  575. 34:05of course they do know about this for everybody listening if you don't know about
  576. 34:08that there was a movie, Steven Spielberg did back in the 90s, totally worth watching.
  577. 34:11It'll give you kind of a brief overview of the Amafat case.
  578. 34:15But the essence is there was a group of Africans that were taken on a Portuguese slave trading
  579. 34:21ship.
  580. 34:22And at this point, the slave trade is illegal.
  581. 34:24America actually was the first nation to sign a law banning the slave trade.
  582. 34:28Thomas Jefferson signed that law on March 2nd, 1807.
  583. 34:31England signed the law three weeks approximately later on March 25th, 1807.
  584. 34:36And some people might argue that actually England's law was first because when they
  585. 34:40signed in March 25th, it went into effect on that date.
  586. 34:44America signed a law March 2nd, which they signed it first, but it didn't go into effect
  587. 34:47until January 1st of the following year.
  588. 34:49So people argue that actually England was the first nation to ban the slave trade.
  589. 34:53I would actually throw a caveat and say, no, I don't think they were.
  590. 34:56I still think America was the first nation because even though America's law didn't go
  591. 35:00into effect until January 1st, 1808, England's law that was 1807, March 22nd, their law
  592. 35:06said that if there's any ship captain who has contracts in the slave trade industry, he
  593. 35:13has one year to fulfill the contracts and then there can be no more contracts taken, no
  594. 35:17more slave trade after one year.
  595. 35:19So they didn't actually ban it until March 25th, 1808.
  596. 35:23So America signed the law first, America banned it first all about the context to say that as
  597. 35:28the Amasak case happens, there is a portraody slave trading ship and they're going to Cuba.
  598. 35:35They sell slaves in Cuba, then there's a couple of plantation owners that bought 53 slaves.
  599. 35:41They're taking them to their plantation in the Caribbean.
  600. 35:44Well, on the way, these 53 Africans who were enslaved, they haven't uprising on the ship.
  601. 35:51They killed a crew.
  602. 35:52They keep a couple of people alive because these Africans did not know how to sell this
  603. 35:57large massive ship.
  604. 35:58And so they tell them, right, take us back to Africa.
  605. 36:02And so these sailors, they kept alive.
  606. 36:05They, okay, we will take you back.
  607. 36:06What they do is they end up selling up the coast of America
  608. 36:10and they end up stopping in Connecticut.
  609. 36:12As they stop in Connecticut, they go into Harvard,
  610. 36:15they go into Port and when they get there,
  611. 36:17these sailors begin crying mutiny,
  612. 36:19they're muting in the high seas.
  613. 36:21And so Americans come and mutiny is an offense
  614. 36:24that's the death penalty.
  615. 36:26This is totally illegal and you can put the deaths
  616. 36:28for doing mutiny.
  617. 36:30well as canada get there were anti-slavery state the
  618. 36:33trade been
  619. 36:34band for decades in america
  620. 36:37and when they begin to find out what's going on a first of all the they have
  621. 36:40prison all the african
  622. 36:41uh... charging them with the crime of unity but as
  623. 36:44information begins to unfold which first of all no one in canada get spoke
  624. 36:49the this african dialect i think was minty i think is what it was but i
  625. 36:52speak to the african dialect
  626. 36:54so that they start looking for someone
  627. 36:56they find someone who was a former British sailor who actually had been from that nation
  628. 37:03and anyway found freedom was living in America and he came down he began translating and the
  629. 37:10story came out that these were individuals who were taken in the slave trade which Americans
  630. 37:16now already have a distaste for the slave trade that they were kidnapped these were free
  631. 37:20individuals who were kidnapped in Africa who were sold in the slave trade and they were
  632. 37:24For Volta on board, they were fighting for their freedom.
  633. 37:27At this point, the argument was that this wasn't mutiny, this was self-defense.
  634. 37:31Well, they win the case at the lower court.
  635. 37:34It then is appealed to the Supreme Court.
  636. 37:36As it appealed, and by the way, Spain was helping fund this because these plantation
  637. 37:43owners were from Spain, connected to Spain.
  638. 37:46So Spain is helping fund the pro-slavery side of this.
  639. 37:50as it goes to the spring court the most famous anti slavery leader of the time
  640. 37:55is john kwanji atum the guy who actually is argued supreme court cases
  641. 37:58and so they recruit him he was known as old man eloquent
  642. 38:02uh... it kind of
  643. 38:04a a a descriptor on whatever he would get them speaking congress
  644. 38:07everybody no matter what's going on everybody stopped everybody came up
  645. 38:10in the halls
  646. 38:11they even if they disagreed with this guy john kwanji atum for just so brilliant
  647. 38:15everybody wanted to hear the wisdom of his words even if they disagreed with
  648. 38:19the principal even if it's a great politically they wanted to hear the
  649. 38:21brief of the guy
  650. 38:23so he shows in he goes to the supreme court
  651. 38:26the supreme court of the time
  652. 38:27in the justices
  653. 38:29the majority of them i think seven of the nine were were slave holding justice
  654. 38:33it's so you're arguing in slavery
  655. 38:36in front of people that have played that's not looking good he ends up winning the
  656. 38:39decision
  657. 38:39with only one judge voting against them the africans when their freedom
  658. 38:44at any way this is part of his legacy he's fighting in flavors entire life
  659. 38:47his last term in congress there's a freshman who is elected this freshman
  660. 38:51joined the anti-slavery movement
  661. 38:53here's the speech of john quanciadam
  662. 38:55uh... you can imagine inspired by the wisdom of his words which on quanciadam
  663. 38:59to the stroke
  664. 39:00he died in congress
  665. 39:02when he died that the void is now very evident in the anti-slavery movement and
  666. 39:08and the movement still incredibly strong
  667. 39:10but the most noted leader that the spokesman is gone
  668. 39:14and so there's a lot of people now thinking we want to help feel that gap
  669. 39:17but we want to feel the void
  670. 39:19and this young freshman
  671. 39:20run for reelection
  672. 39:22and he lost
  673. 39:23but not to be discouraged
  674. 39:24this freshman congressman that decided he's he's going to try again and we lose
  675. 39:28the game runs for senate he lost for city
  676. 39:30he ran for state office lost a office
  677. 39:33this young freshman did not want another election
  678. 39:35until he won the eighteen sixty presidency and it was a break and link it
  679. 39:40and what is so fascinating about some of these connection
  680. 39:43is not only does Abraham Lincoln become the president that in slavery, Abraham Lincoln
  681. 39:48also appoints John Quincy Adams son Charles Francis Adams to be the ambassador over to Great
  682. 39:54Britain over to you who is another anti-slavery guy. When John Quincy Adams does the Emancipation
  683. 39:59Proclamation that is literally something that John Quincy Adams had been talking about. One
  684. 40:04of the strategies of how could you do this? Well if slaves were rebelling what could you
  685. 40:08do and then you actually can start in Washington DC because you have the federal authority over
  686. 40:13the District of Columbia because that's a federal territory.
  687. 40:16And then everything John Quincy Adams laid out in this plan is strategies what Abraham Lincoln
  688. 40:20did and Abraham Lincoln gets the credit and justifiably deserves credit for ending slavery
  689. 40:25in America.
  690. 40:26But it overlooks the fact that his mentor, that even people he chose as ambassador, helping
  691. 40:32to stop the British and the French from joining the Confederacy were the Adams.
  692. 40:37And back to the original question is,
  693. 40:40who are some of the people that are overlooked
  694. 40:41or people that we should know that we don't,
  695. 40:43that maybe if we knew their story,
  696. 40:44it might even change some of the perspective
  697. 40:46we have of America.
  698. 40:48The Adams family is a family that by and large,
  699. 40:51people don't know their story today.
  700. 40:54And if we knew their story,
  701. 40:55it would give us such a different perspective
  702. 40:57from the modern narrative.
  703. 40:58Also worth noting is that the Adams family
  704. 41:01were very outspoken in their faith.
  705. 41:04John Quincy Adams was very outspoken as a Christian,
  706. 41:07which also if you look at the anti-slavery movement in America, you will be hard pressed
  707. 41:12to find any leader in anti-slavery movement in America who is not an outspoken Christian
  708. 41:18and maybe not even being a pastor or a minister on some level.
  709. 41:22The reason that matters is even when people look at America and they want to accuse America
  710. 41:26of being guilty of all these evils and sin, I mentioned in the beginning, there's no question
  711. 41:31America is guilty of definitely committing evils and sins along the way, not always the
  712. 41:35once we're accused of but definitely we're not a perfect nation we've definitely
  713. 41:38had leaders that did some evil things one of the questions we're asking is how
  714. 41:41do those evils end and and who led the opposition and without exception and
  715. 41:46this is so important for all of our listeners today without exception the
  716. 41:50people that led the opposition to stop the evil things that were being done in
  717. 41:56america it was always christians it was always pastors it was always the
  718. 41:59religious leaders who based on what the bible taught they said we have to stop
  719. 42:04This is not right for America because not what the Bible says and we should do what the Bible says here in America
  720. 42:09The reason evils always stops were because of Christian whether we talk about the slavery
  721. 42:16Slave trade that the slavery industry in America. What are we talking about civil rights?
  722. 42:20What do we talk about in the land removal you pick an evil you want and I will point out the Christians the pastors the ministers
  723. 42:27Who are the ones leaving the opposition?
  724. 42:29Ultimately to stop those things in America and and the reason that we would even argue from all builders perspective that
  725. 42:34But history matters so much because the more we study history, the more we realize that
  726. 42:40when Christians who pay attention, who read their Bible, when they get involved in the
  727. 42:45process, it makes America a more godly nation, it makes America a better nation, which is
  728. 42:50why we've been able to enjoy so many blessings.
  729. 42:52And the reason that we are seeing so many problems in our nation today is because for the last
  730. 42:57many decades, Christians have not been a part of the solution.
  731. 43:01We have been a part of observing, maybe of complaining, but we've not been a part of
  732. 43:05the solution.
  733. 43:06And if we study history, we would know that the only way that we can stop this evil is
  734. 43:11when Christians wake up and get involved in our part of the solution in the process.
  735. 43:16Very well said.
  736. 43:17So in your view, and let me just say this guys, wallbuilders.com is a website, wallbuilders.com.
  737. 43:23It is worthwhile for you to arm yourself with the information and the accurate retelling
  738. 43:29of history for your families.
  739. 43:32I use some of the things that that that
  740. 43:35Volbuter's presented even a book that Tim wrote
  741. 43:38as a textbook in teaching my children
  742. 43:40as we disciple our children from home.
  743. 43:42So I definitely commend them to you
  744. 43:44as a resource center to bolster your families
  745. 43:48in learning a proper view of history for our nation.
  746. 43:52But I want to ask you, Tim,
  747. 43:54why do you think people like John Adams, John Quincy Adams,
  748. 43:57Charles Francis Adams, Adams family,
  749. 43:59as a whole these people have kind of been relegated to or sideline marginalized or completely ignored
  750. 44:06in discussions about American history in our country.
  751. 44:09I think it would be a maybe different answers for different people because I think some people,
  752. 44:17one of the things that I've often told people is in opposition you deal with two kinds of people
  753. 44:22in opposition. It's either the intentional or the ignorant and some people just don't know,
  754. 44:28but some people are it's it's maybe more of a Bible talks about casting your prose before swine
  755. 44:33right like they just they don't value truth and so they don't care what is true they're going to promote
  756. 44:38their agenda right howard vid who 1980 writes his famous book a people's history the United States
  757. 44:45he was an intentional guy he knew he was lying about america he knew he was lying about the
  758. 44:49founding fathers of christian columbus and all these people that today are villainized
  759. 44:53he's one of the lead promulgators of those lives that's where the modern narratives we know
  760. 44:58today about america and the time of the evil he's the guy that started so many of
  761. 45:02those lives released
  762. 45:03repopularized them in the nineteen eighty
  763. 45:06i think some people have ignored the atom family simply they just didn't know
  764. 45:09the story
  765. 45:10and so they repeat what they know and they just didn't know the atom's family but
  766. 45:13then there are certainly some people
  767. 45:15who are intellectually dishonest
  768. 45:17and because
  769. 45:19it doesn't fit the narrative they want to promote right if it for example if you
  770. 45:23go back john adams with the committee of five in
  771. 45:26in the original continental congress when they come up with a declaration john
  772. 45:29adam's worth five men members
  773. 45:31put into our coming up with a declaration
  774. 45:33in the original draft of the declaration
  775. 45:35the largest grievance in the original draft of the declaration
  776. 45:39is a grievance against the slave trade in arguing for
  777. 45:43the humanity and the equality
  778. 45:45of the enslaved individuals
  779. 45:48that
  780. 45:49was
  781. 45:50arguably being the largest i was the most significant thing
  782. 45:53to jefferson as he's drafting this to to maybe john out of franklin and sherman
  783. 45:57livington the five guys who are together so putting all these thoughts
  784. 46:00together
  785. 46:01the most significant thing
  786. 46:03is we have to end the slave trade because these are human that are being
  787. 46:06enslaved and and in the slave trade that it is awful people this has to stop
  788. 46:11that the the reason i became significant
  789. 46:14that doesn't fit the modern narrative
  790. 46:17of the founding fathers maybe didn't like some of the evil of slavery or the
  791. 46:21slave trade and people might argue just to kind of finish some of that thought they
  792. 46:25might argue well but that didn't make it the final draft and the reason was John
  793. 46:28Hancock who was the president of congress so they would only include the final draft
  794. 46:31that was unanimously agreed to and George in South Carolina both said we don't think
  795. 46:36that grievance is necessary but 11 of the 13 colonies voted in favor of that
  796. 46:40Greek is the vast majority the founding fathers were not people that were
  797. 46:45promoting and wanted to see the expansion of slavery in fact the vast majority
  798. 46:48came out saying that we want to see slavery eradicated. We want to see the the abolition
  799. 46:54of slavery in general. And this is where John Adams specifically doesn't fit the modern
  800. 47:00narrative where the argument today is that America is fundamentally evil, that America
  801. 47:05was both on racism, that the Founding Fathers taught maybe even the revolution to to protect
  802. 47:10the institution of slavery. That doesn't fit the narrative if you actually know who these
  803. 47:14people were and this is where I think it's also worth just everybody listening if you go
  804. 47:19and look at the picture we kind of know it as a sign or a declaration.
  805. 47:22I got to interrupt him because we are coming to the end of the program.
  806. 47:28I don't want the music to cut you off and the show in the cut you off.
  807. 47:31But all this means is that I got to have you back because we have to do a follow up on
  808. 47:35this wallbuilders.com ladies and gentlemen is where you need to go.
  809. 47:42The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American
  810. 47:47Family Association or American Family Radio.

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