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0:00 - 15:00. Deuteronomy 6:4-7 (NASB95). Regressives continually seek to destroy the parent-child relationship in order to foist mass chaos onto mankind. 15:00 - 31:00. Jim Mason, President of the Homeschool Legal Defense Association (HSLDA), returns to “The Corner.” 31:00 - 48:00. Threats to parents’ freedom to direct the cultivation of our children’s minds and on the rise. or call: 800-326-4543 To donate call : 877-616-2396
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1:00And we every day seek to make it worth your while to tune into today's program at this very moment,
1:07to turn into today's program, I'm going to say.
1:09At this very moment, many of you, if not most of you are making your transition from your part-time jobs
1:15where you generate an income to your full-time jobs where you cultivate an outcome.
1:19And as you do so, I want to remind you to do so with intentionality.
1:23understanding the primacy that God places on family and allowing that
1:28primacy to guide and to govern your engagement. We are the ones who suffer
1:35when we refuse to either one, understand God's requirements or to fail to implement
1:42what God requires of us. We are the ones who suffer as a consequence of that
1:49phenomenon. And so what we're seeking to do on a daily basis through this program
1:54is to encourage this audience to navigate life from the perspective of the truth of
2:00God's Word, to understand what God requires of us and to live accordingly.
2:05That is what we're seeking to do. I know a lot of people get upset about
2:09certain things as we seek to apply this to public life, but the Lord didn't
2:15protect for us didn't provide for us I should say then inalienable right of the
2:20freedom of worship like some try to describe it some try to to contract
2:25that liberty it's actually the free exercise of religion which is inalienable
2:30and God given and protected by our Constitution which means that we apply
2:34the whole of our commitment and devotion to God to every area of life this is why
2:41I don't have any hesitation when people say well if you're getting a little bit
2:44political there. I'm not getting political just because politicians may try to discuss something or
2:49discuss something that is addressed in scripture. It doesn't inherently reclassify that subject matter.
2:55And so my goal personally is to exact exalt Christ in all of my life and my hope for this audience
3:03is that you would have a similar conviction and commitment. And as a result, the sum total of our
3:11commitment that we will be a part of God's, the execution of God's agenda to make disciples of all
3:16nations. That is my goal. That is my hope. And we would apply that first and foremost in our own
3:21families and our own communities, our own societies, our own neighborhoods, our own counties, our own
3:28states, and ultimately in our nation as we seek to export the gospel into other nations via evangelism,
3:35we do not want to overlook our own nation in that process.
3:39So as you are making your transition from your full-time job, which is where you generate, sorry, your part-time job, which is where you generate an income.
3:46I know the way the world describes it, but I do not describe our income-generating function as our full-time jobs.
3:52Our full-time jobs, the full-time commitment we must have is outcome cultivation, and that is what we seek to do on a daily basis through this program.
4:02Now, to the word of God, we go,
4:04do it around to me, chapter six.
4:07A portion of scripture I've referred to numerous times,
4:11but I wanna do so today, specifically,
4:14because there are lots of people who can say,
4:16well man, man, whoops, whoops,
4:18decided going off the rails boy,
4:20but what, you gotta, hey, hey, hey,
4:21you gotta watch what, society, what's the,
4:23what do you want today, buddy, why, boy,
4:26why has society gone off the rails
4:28and more particularly where has society gone off the rails?
4:33Deuteronomy 6, as I've explained repeatedly, that this is an address directed toward the
4:41second-generation wilderness Israelites, which has specific application to us today as well,
4:49as Moses is preparing the second-generation of wilderness Israelites for the Promised
4:54Land.
4:55This is referred to as the Jewish shmah because of the beginning phrases of the text in Deuteronomy
5:00chapter 6 verse 4. But the word of God says is here, oh Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is one.
5:08You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.
5:18These words which I am commanding you today shall be on your heart and you shall teach them
5:26diligently to your sons or to your children and shall talk of them when you sit in your home,
5:34when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise up. You can pair this Old Testament
5:42passage with the New Testament, text in Ephesians 6, for example, verse 4, when it says,
5:48fathers do not exasperate your children, rather rear them in the nurture and admonition of the
5:55the Lord. I've explained before that word, nurture or some translation, say instruction at that point
6:01or discipline at that point. They all come from the Greek word, pidea, which literally means the
6:07whole training of the mind in the morals. Simply put, the scripture describes it plainly that parents
6:17are the ones who he has tasked, who he has commanded to see to the cultivation of the hearts and the minds of our children.
6:30The scripture does not say that we are to export that duty to others.
6:37It doesn't mean that others can't help us in that task, but what the scripture is saying is that the parents are the ones to direct it.
6:45It flies directly in the face of a system of instruction that we call the education system in our country
6:54To where the majority of the time parents have no clue what it is that children are learning have no clue
6:59Don't know what's in the textbooks. Don't know what the textbooks are
7:03But we export the responsibility and we seed all authority concerning our children to others
7:10Doesn't make those people to whom we've exported the task to evil and doesn't make them ill intention
7:16even though we know there are some, but the majority of people are not ill-intentioned,
7:22but we're seeking to enjoy God-like results by sidestepping God's ways.
7:30That simply is not the way that God prescribed it, folks.
7:34I say the reality that the spirit to development of our children and Lord never called us to
7:40entrust that to a youth pastor.
7:43Search the scriptures, you tell me whether or not it says that.
7:46Similarly, the cultivation of the mind of our children,
7:50that we call education and we've embraced this really
7:53unbiblical bifurcation of spiritual development
7:55and academic matriculation,
7:57which is why the Ephesians 6, 4 passage is so important.
8:00The whole training of the mind and the morals.
8:04When Jesus was asked about the greatest commandment,
8:05he said, the greatest is,
8:06you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart,
8:08so mind and strength, loving the Lord,
8:11includes loving the Lord with our minds.
8:13The scripture says, parents are responsible
8:15for instructing and guiding our children in that understanding.
8:22But we don't often realize it.
8:25And I've made the statement,
8:26and it's been kind of construed as a somewhat provocative statement.
8:30When you got this communist anti-Semite,
8:37Zoramam Dani, who may very well become the next mayor
8:40of New York City, who said he wanted to have government owned
8:45and government run grocery stores.
8:47And people go, what?
8:49No way.
8:50Government owned at Marxism.
8:52I said, but I won't see that same kind of zest.
8:55We took when it comes to government run
8:58in government owned schools.
9:03Huh?
9:05Nah, I didn't see that same kind of zest.
9:08And this is one of those moments where
9:11my people perish for a lack of knowledge.
9:13We don't understand.
9:14In addition to, and I referred to,
9:16I did this show a couple weeks ago
9:17talking about how violence is intrinsic
9:20to a Marxist worldview.
9:22It's not.
9:23That's why you find regressives that are not uncomfortable
9:26with the utilization of violence for political objectives,
9:28because it's intrinsic to Marxism.
9:30Marx said it himself, Marx and Engels.
9:34You wanna know what else Marx said,
9:35along with his desire to abolish private property?
9:40You wanna know what else you wanna do abolish?
9:42Yeah, y'all wanna know?
9:43You wanna know what else Moses Mordecai, Marx, Levy?
9:47Also known as Karl Marx wanted to abolish,
9:49he wanted to abolish the family.
9:53More specifically, what Marx sought to destroy
9:58was parental influence on children in favor of children being made,
10:07stop me if you heard this before, children of the state.
10:12With the abolition of the family, Mark said that communism would ensure
10:17that children would be educated by the state and not their parents.
10:24Mark's wrote this manifesto quote that communism would quote
10:29Rescue education from the influence of what he called the ruling class
10:36The most basic element of the ruling class he called it the bourgeoisie family
10:41Is that you had to have children to become children of the state to make what he described as the new man
10:49Marx's ideals were manifested in the first
10:53state to
10:55the first state to succumb to Marxism was Russia following the Bolshevik Revolution. In 1917, with the communist now in power,
11:05Alexandra Kolentai was the do's name. Was the Soviets first people's commissar for welfare?
11:13I'm sorry. I said he am and she Alexandra Kolentai.
11:20She put us succinctly when she wrote quote the old family narrow and petty where the parents quarrel and are only interested in their own
11:27offspring is not capable of educating the new person. She went on to explain that
11:33Soviet schools would even encourage students to snitch on their parents. Anybody
11:38heard of that before? This is in 1917. It didn't stop there following the Bolshevik
11:47Revolution in Russia in the in the in the 19, 19 teens in 1917 when the
11:53Communists were firmly in power in Russia. You had the Hungarians who attempted to
11:57implement their own Soviet Marxist program, where you had another
12:04Marxist by the name of Georgie Lukox. In Georgie Lukox, who took on the position, I want to make sure I get the position, right?
12:20Lukox was over the education of the children, and sought to utilize that as a mechanism to destabilize, establish society.
12:32Lukox, yes, Lukox included that the weight that they quickly realized is the best and
12:49most effective way to completely change society was to destroy the most important civil institution,
12:56the most important civil society institution, which was the family.
13:00Georgia Lukox became the culture and education commissar in Hungary, and he instituted a system
13:07to instruct the young children that included full-on pornographic perversion, sexual perversions,
13:15that he called cultural terrorism.
13:17Georgie Lukach's end up training people who would later be known as the Frankfurt School.
13:24Heard of them before.
13:27These are academics who are in Germany who then fled to the United States to try to escape
13:32Hitler and some of the most famous scholars were Theodore Adorno, Max Horkheimer, and Herbert
13:38Mark Hughes, remember him? Her Mark Hughes ends up writing the 1959 best-seller
13:43arrows and civilization which became the founding document of the sexual
13:48revolution of the 60s. Do you see the trajectory of this ideology? But it
13:57started from a premise that said we need to destroy the parental child
14:02relationship in terms of who is the most influential in the children's lives.
14:06replace the parents with the state.
14:09So from the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia
14:12to the Soviet program implemented in Hungary
14:17to the training of the Frankfurt School scholars
14:20to those same scholars influencing
14:24and laying the foundation for the American sexual revolution,
14:27the foundation of it all
14:29is to destroy the relationship between parents and children,
14:33specifically destroyed the capacity for children to educate and therefore
14:37influence their children but to see that influential authority to the state. So
14:43children would no longer be to be children of their families. They will
14:47become children of the state. That would be the most effective way to stop
14:50if you heard this before. Fundamentally, transform the nation.
14:55Children, of course, are given to parents by God and not to the state.
15:07children don't belong to the state and we need to make sure that those lines are very clearly protected
15:12and increasingly secularized culture where the government has not only tried to make the church
15:20completely irrelevant but basically replace parents. Jenna Ellis in the morning weekdays at 7
15:26Central on American Family Radio. Shiting lightning to the darkness this is the Hamilton
15:38on American Family Radio.
15:40Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner,
15:42Abraham Hamilton the third here.
15:43I am delighted to have on the program with me
15:46my honored guests, the president
15:48of the Home School Legal Defense Association, none other,
15:51than Mr. James Jim Mason, who has since joining HSLDA
15:55to lead the litigation team in 2001,
15:58has represented homeschooling families
15:59in a wide range of challenging situations.
16:02And I set presidents that have expanded freedom
16:05for the homeschool community.
16:06I wanted him specifically to come on with us today to address a rising trend that he sees
16:14as I see as well that is threatening that liberty.
16:17But first, Jim, thank you for joining me here in the program.
16:21Oh, it's my pleasure.
16:22Always, Abraham.
16:23Thank you.
16:24Oh, it is the pleasure is mine.
16:25I told you before we came on that I kind of walk through a brief history of how it has
16:31been an intentional plot to try to sever children from their parents, particularly in the
16:36cultivation of the mind and in education and we're reeling from some of that
16:40influence today. HSLDA has been on the front lines historically and paving the
16:45way for parents to be able to lawfully invest themselves in their own children
16:50and many hostile threats we had Brian Ray on earlier this week when he talked
16:55about there were actual dads in Oklahoma being put in handcuffs for trying to do
16:59this but there's similar threats rising today. What would you like our audience
17:04which should our audience know and understand concerning those threats that are rising today?
17:08Well, because you told me a little bit about your previous segment when you were talking
17:12about sort of the historical way that children are being separated from their parents, I think
17:18it's important to kind of go back and remember our own country's founding, which was grounded
17:24in a biblical view of the natural law that recognized that children and the raising and
17:30nurturing, educating children really belongs in the family and the church.
17:36And it's really not the business or the jurisdiction of the state.
17:40And so the threats we see today arise out of the ideology that comes from the other view
17:48that thinks that children belong to the state and parents can't be trusted to raise them.
17:56of the threats are coming from academia in over the years. We've read from Harvard Professor
18:04Elizabeth Bartlett that homeschooling ought to be banned because parents can't be trusted
18:11to not just educate them, but really to even just take care of them. And she thinks homeschooling
18:16is a sickness, not a remedy.
18:23And so the education schools and the public schools
18:28come from the ideology that the kids kind of belong to them.
18:31And so we're starting to see in legislatures.
18:35So let me back up just a little bit.
18:37When COVID happened and suddenly everybody was home,
18:43there was sort of a lull.
18:45So Elizabeth Bartlett's famous article calling for the banning of homeschooling hit almost the same day that public schools all over the country closed.
18:55But she didn't quit.
18:57So after the schools reopened, there was a pretty big concerted, it seems to me onslaught in the media from different publications calling into question homeschooling.
19:11So Elizabeth Bartholotte has just written another article, just out, in which she renews the same vision.
19:20And as you know, this year is the 100th anniversary of the Case Pierce v. Society of Sisters,
19:28in which the Supreme Court said Oregon cannot outlaw private education,
19:34and the famous quote, because children are not the mere creatures of the state.
19:40So that understanding that children don't belong to this state, so Elizabeth Bartlett's
19:47article was the blessing and curse of the Pierce case.
19:53In her view, and this is, she's right.
19:58The opening sentence of her article says something like this.
20:01Yes, I said that.
20:03She's right.
20:04Let me just get to that.
20:06Let me just get to this.
20:07The first sentence of her article says, the Pierce case was a blessing and a curse, but
20:14there's disagreement about which parts the blessing and which parts the curse.
20:20So she thinks the curse is that it recognized parental rights as fundamental.
20:28She thinks the blessing is that it launched the era of substantive due process, which
20:34is a legal term that basically gave judges license
20:37to find previously unknown rights in the Constitution,
20:41which led to the right to abortion and same-sex marriage.
20:45So she's exactly right.
20:47It's a blessing and a curse,
20:48and we don't agree on which part's the blessing.
20:50We think, I think, that the blessing is,
20:53it recognized parents' rights as fundamental,
20:57but the legal doctrine it introduced
21:00created a lot of mischief.
21:02And so out of that doctrine, we're
21:06starting to see more and more legislatures
21:09around the country trying to introduce new regulations
21:14on homeschooling.
21:15Some of them pretty draconian and severe.
21:19Yeah, we talked at length about an example
21:22of the draconian and severe legislation that thankfully
21:25was beaten back just this past legislative session
21:29in Illinois, which is an example of that draconian measures
21:35to see if it occurred curtail home schooling.
21:38And I know, because I talked to you about it,
21:40that HSLDA has even had to file a lawsuit recently
21:45in the state of Pennsylvania,
21:47because there's some efforts there
21:48to kind of encroach upon the jurisdiction of parents.
21:51Yeah, so this arose, and this comes up from time to time.
21:56In Pennsylvania, parents have to file an affidavit swearing
22:02under Penelope of perjury that they possess
22:06at least a high school diploma and other things before they are,
22:11you know, that's how they start homeschooling.
22:13I filed this affidavit saying I have a high school diploma.
22:18Well, a school district in Lancaster,
22:20the people in Pennsylvania will criticize me
22:22for how I pronounce that.
22:23I'm going to try to say it right.
22:25The school district there has apparently for some time demanded that parents provide them
22:35with a copy of their high school diploma in addition to swearing in the required form that
22:42they have one.
22:44And that may seem like a small thing.
22:48And many people apparently have been complying with that.
22:52But one of the founding principles of our country is that
22:57The state only has so much power and so when they pass a when the legislature passes a homeschool law
23:05homeschoolers
23:06You don't have to abide by it, but so does the state so do the school districts
23:12So when they demand more even you know, it's kind of if you give a mouse a cookie. He's gonna want more so we
23:19along with James Madison who wrote many years ago that it's proper to take
23:25alarm at the first experiment on our liberties because if you don't stop it
23:30right away by practice it the state grows muscles and it will continue on. Yeah. That
23:38was sort of a paraphrase. Medicine said it much better than I do. And so this school
23:44district demands that homeschoolers give them a copy of their high school diploma
23:49And in this case, we had HSLDA member families who moved to Pennsylvania from other states
23:57where there was a lot different.
24:00And they said, we don't have to do that.
24:01The law doesn't say that.
24:03So our attorneys sent a letter to the school district and said, law doesn't have to do that.
24:08The law doesn't say they have to do that.
24:10And so the parents refused to do it.
24:13So the school district left a voicemail and said,
24:17if you don't give us a copy of your high school diploma,
24:21we'll be at your house tomorrow at 8 a.m. in the morning
24:24to collect it.
24:25Oh my.
24:26And they did?
24:27Well, and so when we heard that voicemail,
24:29we sent another letter that said, don't do it.
24:32But they did.
24:34And they sent along the school social worker who asked one
24:39family, I must see your kids to make sure they're safe.
24:43Oh.
24:44So, so, how, what does that have to do with anything?
24:47You ask. It has nothing to do with anything. It's a paperwork
24:51dispute where the school district was wrong and even worse,
24:55the statute in Pennsylvania says when there's a paperwork
24:59dispute, there's a very definite process.
25:03The school district has to send a certified letter
25:07giving the family 30 days to respond,
25:11and then if there's still a dispute,
25:13have a hearing before a neutral hearing officer.
25:16So when...
25:17None of that happened this year.
25:18Zero.
25:19So the state didn't comply with their own requirements.
25:22No, and it was almost like the school district
25:25didn't care that there was a statute,
25:27or didn't know that there was a statute
25:29that governed all those things.
25:31So when they showed up,
25:34And one of the things that's really important,
25:38and it's really deep in the kind of DNA
25:41of the homeschooling movement, homeschool families stand up
25:46for what's right.
25:48And in this case, what's right was not to give in
25:52to an unlawful demand by the school district.
25:55So when they came, the school district,
25:58or the parents said, well, call my lawyer.
26:01And they said, and if you want to talk to me again,
26:04Send me a certified letter.
26:06And the attendance person left saying, okay, whatever.
26:12So because of that, that happened on Friday.
26:17Just this past week.
26:18A week and a half ago.
26:19So not the last Friday, but we can have a go.
26:23And on Tuesday, we sent our own kind of letter
26:28to the school district and the officials at the school.
26:31And it was called a civil complaint.
26:33But for those of you out there who don't know what that is, that's a lossing.
26:37We sued them.
26:38We sued them.
26:39The families sued the four officials in the school district who were responsible for this.
26:46And this isn't the first time we've done this.
26:48So the law in Pennsylvania back in 1980s, HSLDA sued Pennsylvania school districts because
26:59they didn't have a statute.
27:01They didn't have a homeschool statute.
27:03And parents all over the state were told different things
27:07about how to homeschool.
27:08And in the lawsuit, it was documented
27:10that there were 34 different policies,
27:13all dependent on the one official in that school district
27:16to decide what you had to do.
27:18And sometimes it changed from year to year.
27:20And from, if you lived on this side of the street,
27:22you had to do one thing.
27:23If you lived on the other side, you had to do something else.
27:26The federal district court said,
27:27that's an unconstitutional statute.
27:30Four months later, the legislature, the General Assembly
27:33in Pennsylvania passed the homeschool law,
27:36which lays out the rules that everybody has to follow.
27:40So this school district has gone back
27:44to the pre-statutory times.
27:48We had a case very similar to this in Virginia
27:50just five years ago where the Supreme Court of Virginia
27:55unanimously said the school district can't add
27:59to the statute that the legislature adopted,
28:02and that's what they were doing in Virginia as well.
28:05Yeah, so what you just described,
28:07the phenomenon where you had this HSLDA member family
28:10who moved to Pennsylvania, and you had the state officer
28:13show up at their home, and they were able to confidently
28:20and convictately say, call my lawyer.
28:23Correct.
28:24That is what HSLDA exists to do for member families.
28:29Would you just speak a little bit to that and let the audience know how if they're listening
28:34and there are people who either are homeschooling and would like to become members, those considering
28:37homeschooling, what is available to them and some who may want to share with others what
28:41HSODA may be able to provide for them.
28:43Would you just share a little bit about that?
28:44Sure.
28:45So to become a member of HSLDA, just go to HSLDA.org and as a member of family, there's a lot
28:52of benefits.
28:53But the main benefit is you can call and talk to a lawyer who is knowledgeable about homeschooling
28:58law and and Fourth Amendment law. So, weirdly, homeschoolers tend to homeschool in their homes,
29:03which is kind of the primary province of the Fourth Amendment. So, we're really good at
29:08the Fourth Amendment stuff too. And whether you homeschool or not, we're part of a cause.
29:14There's a cause, it's a freedom-based cause that is trying to draw the line between the
29:20jurisdiction of the family and the state. So, if you support that cause, you can also
29:25join or become a donor to HSL Day to help other families. So these families on the front line,
29:30they had to have the courage to say no, it would have been really easy just to go in and pull
29:37out the diploma and hand it over. And that would have been that. But like James Madison
29:43said, we have to take alarm at the first experiment of our liberties. And that's what they did. And
29:49that's what we help them for. And that's not just family to family. That's a bigger cause.
29:53Yes, a bigger cross all around the country.
29:56You know, I'm reminded and you know this because you know me
29:59long before I was affiliated with HSLD and the formal capacity.
30:03My wife and I said as one of our financial goals
30:06to get membership largely so we could pass it on.
30:09I was perfectly comfortable and confident that if I ever
30:12ever had any issues with my family,
30:13I would be able to do the legal work to protect my family.
30:16But I wanted to make sure other people and other families
30:19would be able to have that same benefit.
30:21So we set the course and we ultimately did become
30:24lifetime members long before you and I'd ever met
30:27because of that same phenomenon.
30:28So I would wholeheartedly encourage you who are listening
30:31and watching to consider becoming HSLDA members
30:34or becoming donors to HSLDA and passing it on
30:38to others who may need to be aware of what's available.
30:41There are whole host of benefits,
30:42but I would argue one of the most robust benefits
30:44is having that competent legal assistance
30:48in the event that you needed,
30:50that you can call immediately and have someone
30:52who's conversed in homeschool law,
30:53they'll be ready to defend you.
30:55Absolutely, and along those lines,
30:57we have a 24-7 hotline, you can call,
30:59get our answering service, and one of our attorneys
31:02will get back to you.
31:04Jim Mason, thank you.
31:05Thank you so much, and I'm trying to get him out of me
31:07on time, because we're at the HSLDA convention,
31:11and I don't wanna take up all this time,
31:12because there are a lot more important people than me
31:15who need his attention and need his presence.
31:16So thank you for taking a few moments
31:18to come and join me for the program today.
31:19So it's been my pleasure anytime.
31:22I'm always happy to be on your show.
31:24Oh, well, the pleasure is certainly mine.
31:26Absolutely.
31:27Thank you, sir.
31:28All righty.
31:29All right, guys, and I wanted Jim to come on to describe
31:32that I know y'all here to disrespect for music,
31:33I'm gonna wanna lead us to a break,
31:34but I want you to be aware of that
31:36because this is the case that's happening right now.
31:38Happening right now and we're seeing the trends
31:41kind of circle back with the Elizabeth Barthollet
31:42kind of ideology circling back to where there's some who are
31:46who are quite furtively invested in trying to reestablish children being viewed in our nation as
31:52children of the state. I for one am not going to take that to take that laying down because it
31:59has implications for my own family. But most importantly, because I love my neighbor as well,
32:03I don't want my neighbor to come to have to succumb to that type of domestic tyranny. So hslda.org
32:10is the website. Go there now share it with a friend share it with the family members get
32:14together, all of us standing together, we can be a bull arch against
32:19regressiveism and all of its manifestations and its iterations.
32:22HSLDA.org. Go there now.
32:30I'm very concerned about the current young adult Christian fiction genre.
32:34I read or started reading over two dozen Christian YA novels.
32:38Many never mentioned Jesus and many had empty or confusing Christian allegories.
32:44How can we offer our children real hope when we are simply repackaging what the world offers?
32:49Let's look to our Creator God to help us write better stories.
32:53Find the full article Read Am I Way by me, Joy Loosius, on the Stand.net.
32:59The Hamilton Quarter Podcast and One-Minute Common Terrets are available at EFR.net.
33:10Back to the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
33:15Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton III here.
33:19Man, I enjoy that conversation with Jim Mason, president of HSLDA.
33:23Let me just tell you, and how can I say this as
33:27diplomatically as I can.
33:31We expect to win in that case in Virginia.
33:34I mean, in Pennsylvania.
33:36So I just wanted to say that right on the onset,
33:39that we expect to win that case.
33:42That's one of the blessings and the benefits of HSLDA membership
33:47is that you have, as I said, stated a few moments ago,
33:50competent legal assistance.
33:52And so you won't have to pay for an attorney if you remember
33:56because your membership affords you that privilege
33:59is one of the major privileges that are available to you
34:02at HSLDA.
34:04That's one of, it's not the exclusive benefit,
34:06but it's one of the ones that is, I think,
34:08one of the important benefits of that membership.
34:13And I just want to highlight what I explained
34:18in the first segment and its connection
34:20to the second segment that the world over,
34:24whenever you had frankly, demonically inspired people,
34:28they sought and they seek to sever the relationship,
34:33the God ordained relationship between parents and children.
34:38You see it happening in the hyper-sexualization context
34:43when you have nations like Canada
34:45and their movements in forming states like California
34:48others that you're moving away from referring to fathers and mothers affirming the biological
34:54affinity between fathers and the children, mothers and the children, in favor of what
34:59they're describing as parent one and parent two. When you consider that history that alongside
35:06the abolition of private property that marks and ingles postulated the abolition of the family,
35:12he described that relationship only existing out of what is he called the quote unquote
35:16money relation, that it was the most basic unit of capitalism that he sought to abolish.
35:22And so when you see that consistent thread from Marx to the Bolshevik revolution to
35:29Georgie Lukox, you know, in Hungary to the Frankfurt School to the sexual revolution in America under
35:37Herbert Mark Hughes, that it flies in the face of what the scripture teaches first and foremost.
35:44You, Deuteronomy 6 says, are to love the Lord with all that you are.
35:49You are to love the Lord with your heart, your soul, your mind, and your strength.
35:55Jesus quoted from that passage when he discussed his greatest commandment.
35:58And you shall teach this love that you have for the Lord diligently to your children.
36:04Fathers are tasked with rearing our children in the new Thesia, the Pidea and the new Thesia of the Lord,
36:11the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
36:15Our founding, the standard, Dr. Brian Ray stated earlier,
36:20for the bulk of human history,
36:22the default posture was that parents train children.
36:25That we train our children from when they're born,
36:29even in many instances before they were born.
36:31I remember when Maria had our children and her tummy,
36:33I used to talk to Christian in the womb,
36:35I used to read to him.
36:37And it's interesting,
36:38because I didn't really sing to Christian,
36:39but when Anna was sing to her,
36:41And our honor is musically inclined,
36:42Christian is not really, you know,
36:45but she can sing and she plays instruments.
36:47That's starting before they were even born.
36:50Same with my other children, you know?
36:54And then when they come out, when they're delivered
36:56out of the womb, who's teaching them to nurse,
36:59to eat, to potty train?
37:03To, that's, we're training them from the beginning.
37:07This notion of exporting our children primarily
37:10to the state is a relatively recent phenomenon.
37:16And because that has become, it has become so ubiquitous,
37:19we kind of just accept that as a default mechanism.
37:23And then look at all of the insanity
37:24that has unfolded as a result.
37:27Now, you know what?
37:28I'm not trying to overly broad make the statement
37:30of paint with a broad brush, but in my experience,
37:34this is an anecdote, no doubt, this is not empirical evidence,
37:37this is anecdotal evidence, but in my experience,
37:40just to be blunt about it,
37:42I didn't, my parents weren't teaching me crazy things.
37:45And also being a public school student
37:47up to high school, the teachers really wasn't trying to teach me crazy things.
37:51But one thing that was certain, you know, in a room, you know, in inner city, New Orleans,
37:56going to public school, you got 30 some odd children in the class.
37:59That, and you got a one hour class, that teacher don't have an opportunity to find out what my
38:04learning style is. The very learning styles in the classroom, the gifts and abilities that
38:09the children have, they didn't have the ability to tailor anything. And then much of the insanity
38:15that I learned, y'all know, I learned from Nudy and Peanut and Pluk and Gary and Pookie.
38:28That's where I learned and many of you, you listen to me, some of that is your same
38:33experience that it's called peer learning where a lot of that came from. We look at our society
38:41and the continuous degeneration that's transpiring. Why is that happening? How is it happening?
38:47I strongly believe much of it is happening
38:50because parents are outsourcing
38:53the discipleship responsibility.
38:55I said, and I don't mean this to be insulting
38:59or condemning anyone, but you have lots of people.
39:01They rejoice when it's time to send the children
39:03back to school because they don't like their own children.
39:06Can we be honest about it?
39:10So then the question becomes,
39:11why don't they like their own children?
39:14Much of the time, it's not just you don't like
39:15your own children, you dislike the child
39:18who has been shaped and formed in the environment
39:20that we send them to.
39:23We don't like how the peers set an expectation
39:26and set a value system that is foreign
39:29to your own value system.
39:34You have the type of ideology that's so insane.
39:37You have Tylenol finally coming out and saying,
39:40hey, listen, it's probably not a good idea
39:43for you to take Tylenol if you're pregnant.
39:45And now you got a bunch of people
39:46because they hate Donald Trump so much so,
39:48because his administration is the one
39:50that led to Tylenol coming in and saying these things.
39:53Now you got people saying,
39:53I'm gonna take Tyler no one I'm pregnant just despite Trump.
39:56That's just stupid guys.
39:58That's just ridiculous.
39:59That's just ridiculous.
40:02But where did that ideology come from?
40:04What did that mindset come from?
40:07How do we get to the place where we have such a consistent
40:10arresting of development among our boys
40:17to where the matriculation toward manhood is delayed,
40:22but it's prevalent.
40:26Where do we get this idea where our young girls
40:30have no idea what it means to be?
40:33When we used to live in a time where dignity and poise and grace
40:38were things we celebrated amongst our young ladies.
40:41Now I was going in the opposite direction.
40:42Where did that come from?
40:45And you know, you've been listening to me for awhile.
40:47You've been watching my show for awhile.
40:48You know, before we get so quick to condemn the young folks,
40:51all these young folks come from somebody's family.
40:55All the young folks, they have mothers and fathers,
41:00regardless of their proximity to them,
41:03whether they're reared by them,
41:04they all have mothers and fathers.
41:06So before we get on this young generation,
41:08how did this young generation become what they become?
41:11What did the generation before them teach them?
41:14What did the generation before offer them
41:15in terms of grounding and instruction
41:18and then discipline, listen, discipleship guys,
41:20is something that cannot occur in a microwave.
41:26When Moses is speaking in Deuteronomy 6,
41:28and you should teach your children
41:29this love of the Lord that you have diligently,
41:31and you should talk of it when you're in your home.
41:34And when you walk by the way,
41:35and when you rise and when you sleep.
41:37What Moses is conveying is that this disciples
41:39discipleship phenomenon requires time.
41:42It requires time.
41:44It requires intentionality.
41:46It requires investment.
41:49It requires sacrifice.
41:52And if someone said to me,
41:53well, hey, look, it's easy for you to say,
41:55you be real to it.
41:56It's easy for y'all.
41:57I'm saying, hello.
41:59When did you move into my house unbeknownst to me?
42:02And by the way, if you live in my house,
42:03you can build something real.
42:06You don't live in my house.
42:07Listen, this is a sacrifice, man.
42:10It's not easy.
42:11Oh, but it's so worth it.
42:13It's so worth it.
42:15It's so worth it.
42:20We're talking about, many are talking about,
42:22man, look at what God is doing.
42:23I was explaining even earlier this week
42:25how God is open to an effective door,
42:28a wide door for effective work has been opened.
42:33That is true.
42:35But can I tell you something?
42:36It has to start in our homes.
42:39It has to start in our homes.
42:42One of the major sources of growth and support in Charlie Kirk's work was with young men because
42:50he was proclaiming to them foundational truths, foundational truths about marriage and family.
42:58Guys, marriage is one of the foremost mechanisms that God has established to move young men away
43:04from self-centeredness and selfishness.
43:08reality that when it's when you take on the responsibility of a wife and the
43:15prospect of offspring being born men of flip is switched and your mind and your
43:21heart it happened to me to where you no longer can be so consumed with yourselves.
43:27If you're endeavoring to be a godly man, well you recognize every decision I make
43:32from here on out it impacts at a minimum one other person beyond me and when the
43:40prospect of a child being born into our family is go time. It's go time. We don't
43:49time be messing around. But the whole notion of children being children of the state allows
43:56for a protraction of adolescence because where we should be responsible for what's going on
44:03and our children's hearts and minds where we should be the governors and the gatekeepers if you will,
44:09you know gatekeeping societal things is is a whole other concept but you better believe you me,
44:14I'm a gatekeeper goes on in my home and this is why I say every day that what goes on in your house
44:20It's far more important what goes on in a White House because you and I are directly accountable and responsible for what happens in our homes
44:26If smut makes its way into my home, I'm ultimately responsible for that
44:31And this is one of the major reasons why and look feel free to borrow this
44:37But I tell my children, you know, you live in the Constitution Republic when you leave my doors
44:41But in my house you live in a benevolent dictatorship
44:46None of this is my room. I know you have a room every room in this house is my room in your Amazon. That's our rooms
44:51We'll let y'all use our rooms
44:53That bed you sleep on, that's our beds.
44:56Let me see, do you have the receipt?
44:58Did you pay for that bed?
45:01No, that's our beds.
45:03That's mommy's bed and my bed.
45:04We just let y'all sleep in it.
45:06That bathroom that y'all use, our bathroom.
45:09This is our house.
45:11We let you live here.
45:11And look, we love you.
45:12We want you to enjoy your time here.
45:14But this is our house.
45:15This whole idea, I'm gonna close my room door.
45:17It says who, you will have no door.
45:21That's my door.
45:24But I do that because I love them.
45:26One of the main things children crave is discipline and parameters and expectations.
45:35But this is the foremost consideration and our mandate from God to make disciples of our
45:39children includes our cultivation of their minds.
45:48That's one of the things that it includes, the cultivation of their minds.
45:54We have got to get out of this normalization of regressive ideals that many of us who
46:01and rightly so we object to Marx's ideology,
46:05but we don't recognize how much of the Marx's program
46:09we've already embraced.
46:12During the Charlie Kirk funeral, Dr. Ben Carson,
46:16referred to a book called The Naked Communist.
46:18Man, check it out.
46:20Well, you'll see how you have this entire Marx's program,
46:23but how much of it has already been embraced?
46:25I've talked about on the property tax front.
46:28How do you own your own home?
46:30If you're in a place where you maybe you had a mortgage,
46:32you paid it off, you paid for your home, but then you still owe the state money for your
46:35house that you own.
46:36Guess what that idea came from?
46:38A system of rents in common, a feminist manifest in an effort to abolish private property.
46:46No matter what you've done, you still owe the state money for your property.
46:49That's where it came from.
46:52Similarly, this notion of the state being the end all be all, and this is how I describe
47:01it, the discipleship of our children via the cultivation of their minds.
47:05Straight out of the communist manifesto guys.
47:10And ultimately, straight from the mind of Satan, frankly,
47:15because it's an effort to destroy the God-given bond
47:21and dynamic relationship that is established
47:25for the maximization of human flourishing.
47:32I've talked about this numerous times,
47:33no matter what the situation is,
47:35no matter what the mental pathology is,
47:36when you have mental health professionals
47:38attempting to address the situation,
47:40one of the first questions that they will ask
47:41tell me about your relationship with your father. That's because God is ordained
47:47fathers to have outsized impact upon our children. That's just a reality. The
47:57mental health professionals know it but they don't understand why it is. It is
48:01because among the human institutions of God established the first that he
48:05established was the family with marriage at the center. And we will never be
48:11about politic, out Supreme Court opinion, out church, out vote, deficiencies that
48:17a pound in the home. So if we want to see the tide turn in our nation, we must welcome
48:25the Lord to grab ahold of us in our homes. That's the simple reality. A wide door has
48:33been opened to us for effective ministry. Let's take full advantage of it.
48:40The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American
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