June 25, 2026 · 49:18

Ryan Bomberger, Co-Founder of The Radiance Foundation, returns to “The Corner” to discuss the new book and documentary “Should Have Been Aborted.”

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0:00 - 15:00. John 10:10. The thief comes only to steal, kill, and destroy. 15:00 - 31:00. Ryan Bomberger, Co-Founder of The Radiance Foundation, returns to “The Corner” to discuss the new book and documentary “Should Have Been Aborted.” 31:00 - 48:00. A culture of life is worth the fight. | 1-800-326-4543 ext. 345 To donate call: 877-616-2396 Video Clip Links Should’ve Been Aborted Trailer

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0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
0:03It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
0:06This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
0:11It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite.
0:15Delivery people out of the bondage of mainstream media.
0:18And the philosophies of this world.
0:20God has called you and me to be his ambassador.
0:24Even in this dark moment.
0:26Let's not miss our moment.
0:28and now, The Hamilton Corner.
0:33Good evening everyone.
0:34Welcome to The Hamilton Corner.
0:36My name is Abraham Hamilton.
0:37The third joined by the corner contingent,
0:39right across from me,
0:40my man, 100 grand Mr. Bobby.
0:43H Buddhist
0:44and in the screening room produced extraordinary often imitated but never successfully duplicated,
0:53although efforts have been employed and they are continually offered nevertheless unsuccessfully.
1:03The real Jay Mac ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Jeff McIntyre is in the screening room and are
1:08wonderful, delightful, effervescent and evanescent.
1:13Kennedy Green in the screening room as well. I think she says there's like what is he gonna say today?
1:19And he's gonna say something different every day.
1:21You're a long hot summer. Stay tuned. Thank you all for tuning in to the program. We have an exciting
1:29program for you today. I'm looking forward to this for so many, so many reasons. It is vitally
1:40important. Jesus instructed us by his spirit through the Apostle Paul that the
1:44body of Christ is to cast down vain imaginations or some translation says
1:51speculations there but they all derived from the Greek word lagismoth. Cast down
1:56vain imaginations and any high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of
2:02God. One of the great benefits of living in a free country is that we don't have to
2:07you censorship in order to appeal to hearts and minds when there is a horrendous idea asserted
2:15that we don't have to try to shut the people up who assert the horrendous idea or the insane
2:20idea or even the dangerous idea unless it borders crosses that border over into criminality.
2:25Okay, there is a such thing as criminal assertions. Again, we wanted to touch that one example
2:31of the yelling fire in a crowded theater or in a crowded out public event.
2:36All right?
2:37That's criminal.
2:38Yelling fire and there is no fire.
2:41But the idea space, the antidote for horrendous ideology is better ideas, better ideology.
2:51And we are commanded by the Lord that as a part of our spiritual warfare engagement is
2:56is that we examine the insanity that is offered
2:59in view of the white, hot scrutiny of God's holy word.
3:04And one of the areas where anti-Christ ideology
3:09is being asserted routinely in our country
3:12is in the area of the sanctity of human life.
3:15So we're gonna talk about that quite a bit
3:17as we go through the program,
3:18but at this very moment,
3:19many of you, if not most of you,
3:21are making your transition from your part-time jobs
3:23where you generate an income
3:24to your full time jobs where you cultivate an outcome.
3:27And as you do so, I want to remind you to do so
3:31with intentionality.
3:33Guys, this is the battleground where,
3:36you know, I hate that this is true, but it is true.
3:39This is the space where there's been the greatest
3:41chasm and failure to fight.
3:43And that is an equipping, subsequent generations
3:47with truth, not only knowing what to believe,
3:50but knowing why we believe it.
3:54why we believe what we believe, we believe,
3:56having a capacity to reasonably articulate
4:00what we believe and why we believe it.
4:03There's been a great chasm there,
4:05and that's contributed unfortunately,
4:07into the political gang banging phenomenon,
4:09because we're looking for political outlets
4:12to solve spiritual problems.
4:16A lot of us feel the constraint,
4:18we feel the frustration.
4:20We know it's a spiritual problem.
4:22When you have a popular political candidate
4:23who would talk about,
4:24We're going to use taxpayer dollars to provide transgender
4:27surgeries for prisoners.
4:29Like we know, oh, come on, man.
4:31We're not going that far.
4:32Just before that, we had a presidential candidate literally
4:35out loud running for the office saying
4:37that he's a democratic socialist.
4:40And in the information age where we have access
4:42to all kinds of books and information,
4:44he should have been embarrassed to say that out loud.
4:47Nevertheless, until the Clintons bribed him.
4:51Talking about Bernie Sanders, get off my lawn.
4:55until the Clintons bribed him, he was driving the momentum in the Democrat Party.
5:01The reality is it is Bernie Sanders that laid a foundation that AOC drove through there after
5:07Zoron the Moron came through after, I should say Moron, he knows exactly what he's doing.
5:12He's just wrong and wickedly wrong.
5:15You know, and then all of these acolytes, the new trio that just won Democratic primaries
5:19in New York, you have these candidates running all over the country and it shouldn't be a
5:23the coincidence that we see, hmm, the advocates for Islamism and the advocates for Marxism
5:28tend to kind of roll in the same camps. Do you think that's a coincidence? Guys, this
5:34is anything new. That same reality is what led to the Islamic Revolution in Iran. You had
5:39the combination of Islamic zealots and Marxists working together to throw Iran into the 1979
5:48revolution. But we who have the word of God, we must know what we believe, know why we believe
5:56And not only reasonably articulated in a kind of a passive,
6:01well one day I might get around to it.
6:03No, no, no, that we affirmatively engage
6:06in executing our King's Commission,
6:07that is to make disciples.
6:10That is where the biggest ball has been dropped
6:12in our country.
6:17To the word of God we go, John 10.
6:20And I'm saying that's the biggest ball has been dropped.
6:22That's why our friend Dr. George Barner,
6:24he said, man, he's done a lot in his life,
6:26he's done a lot of research, he's well respected.
6:28See for the years that the Lord has given me,
6:30I'm going to bang this drum until the Lord calls me home or unless Jesus returns before
6:34He calls me home that we have got to equip the saints starting with our children to do
6:40the work of the ministry.
6:41Making disciples is not optional.
6:43Bobby and I were talking about families are balkanizing and separating with these visceral
6:52arguments because people on both sides really think they're right.
6:59But sincerity and passion are not the same as being right.
7:04You can be sincere and be sincerely wrong.
7:09That is why the believer is commanded by the Lord to cast down the Vane Loggies Mosque,
7:15to confront the Vane Loggies Mosque, to combat the Vane Loggies Mosque, because ideas have
7:20consequences and bad ideas create casualties.
7:24Eternally bad ideas lead to eternal damnation, hence the necessity for urgency.
7:31To God's word we go John 10, verse 10.
7:35have got to take this to heart. This is the incarnate Christ, Jesus, the Messiah,
7:39saying this, and the Apostle John has recorded it for our benefit. The thief
7:43comes only, only to steal and to kill and to destroy. I, Jesus, saying is saying
7:54this, I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. The term life there in
8:02Greek when Jesus says, I came that they may have life is
8:05so a life that I might that they might have life to the
8:09full, abundant life. This is life that begins on this side of
8:13eternity and that it virgins on into the eternal state. But
8:18notice Jesus, not Abe, not Kennedy, not Jeff, not Bobby.
8:23Jesus said when the thief shows his ugly head, he's showing his
8:27ugly head only for thievery murder and destruction. Now, he
8:33He's not gonna advertise himself that way.
8:35He's not gonna show up to, hey, good evening.
8:38No, have a wonderful family.
8:39Why don't you let me in your house?
8:40Cause I'm here to murder you.
8:42And to destroy and to steal.
8:44No, the advertisement is always arsenic cloaked in chocolate.
8:48It's always, as the scripture says,
8:50Satan presents himself as an angel of light.
8:54It's always presented as, oh, we just want equality
8:56for everybody.
8:58That's all I mean, I mean, come on, man.
9:01I mean, I mean, come on, Kennedy,
9:02you need to be the old folk,
9:03They didn't mess it all up.
9:04Don't you want for housing, affordable housing?
9:07And don't listen to those ideas.
9:09They're bad.
9:10Why are they bad?
9:11Because they're old.
9:12Yeah, they're old.
9:14When there's some, there is truth that endures.
9:18There is objective truth that endures.
9:21And so you have these appeals that are being made and they quote the arsenic in chocolate.
9:26And then we have a society that has been dumbed down.
9:30So much so.
9:31Dumbed down.
9:32So much so.
9:33go back to the numbers, the percentages of Americans who are proficient in things like history and
9:39civics. Do we need to talk about where we rank in terms of mathematics and things of that nature?
9:44And it's not because we don't have the capacity. These are areas where we used to lead the nation.
9:49I mean, lead the world in. But the trillions of dollars are being spent on so quote-unquote
9:55education, yet the performance is continuously putrid. Do you think that the stated purpose is
10:01Actually, I'm sorry that the intended purpose is synonymous with the stated purpose and I use this analogy all the time
10:09If I go I go to Bobby's 15 minute oil change and I bring my car to get my oil changed and
10:15Don't yeah, hey, hey, hey, I parked the car right here. Hey, I'm back in
10:2120 minutes it's only gonna take 15, but give us a five-minute buffer for grace. I
10:26Showed 20 minutes later as my oilman changed
10:28You know, see what happened, Abe?
10:31This is what obviously said.
10:31See what happened?
10:32You know, we realized as we were trying to change your oil,
10:34all we needed, we just needed you to pay a little more.
10:36We said $39.99 was a price, but we actually need $59.99.
10:41And 15 more minutes.
10:41All right, I'll go come back 20 minutes later.
10:44I'll come, Bobby, I'm back.
10:45Is my oil been shaped?
10:47Nice, Abe, we realized $59.99 wouldn't cut it.
10:50We need $79.99.
10:53I leave again and I go talk to Jeff, Jeff,
10:56I'm trying to get my oil changed, Bobby keeps raising
10:58the prices on me.
11:00I'll go back to the kitchen oil again.
11:03Bobby's more,
11:04last,
11:04last,
11:05eight, we need 129.99.
11:07At what point do I have the responsibility to say,
11:10I don't think Bobby is gonna actually change my oil.
11:15That sounds like a ridiculous example.
11:18But isn't that what we do with education?
11:21Oh, the numbers are falling.
11:23Oh man.
11:25You know what we need to do?
11:26We need to spend more on education.
11:28We spend a little more.
11:30Man, the numbers continue to fall.
11:31We just need to spend a little more on it.
11:35The numbers are going to eat a vault.
11:36At some point we have to realize the stated purpose is not synonymous with intended purpose.
11:41In fact, the stated purpose is a tactic to keep you rolling the money when their goal
11:45is not your goal.
11:48Justice Stephen Reyer told you the reason why we have a taxpayer funded government indoctrination
11:54system that we call education, it is because it is the primary institution responsible for
12:00transmitting the values upon which this democratic society rests. That's what
12:06Justice Breyer said. So all of a while they've been telling you about education
12:09when back behind closed doors is that no it's a values transmission system.
12:13Now you tell me what kind of values would be transmitted when you intentionally
12:16and systematically exclude the knowledge of God. What kind of values are going to be
12:19transmitted? It's almost like what Jesus said is true. When you recognize the thief,
12:23he comes only to steal, to kill, and to destroy.
12:31But just as the text says, guys, we do not have to passively allow the theft and the destruction
12:36and the murder to continue. Jesus came that we might have life. What we have to do is recognize,
12:44oh, that's the thief. I don't care what kind of clothes he's got on. I don't care if he's got a
12:49three-piece suit on. I don't care if he has a business tie on. It's a thief and recognizes a thief and
13:00deal with the thief. But not only that, because we not only want to, and this is the beauty
13:07of the Exodus account in the scripture.
13:10The Lord not only delivered the Israelites
13:13from Egyptian captivity and bondage,
13:16but they culminated with entree into the promised land.
13:19We don't wanna merely diagnose what the problems are.
13:23We want to actually move toward
13:25affirmatively embracing the solutions.
13:31Affirmatively embracing what is necessary.
13:34The foundation of that, the fulcrum of that
13:36is what the Lord told us, Proverbs 1,
13:39Verse seven, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
13:46Proverbs nine, the fear of the Lord's beginning of knowledge.
13:50The fear of the Lord is beginning of wisdom.
13:51Knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
13:55The solution seems simple, but don't confuse simplicity
13:58with ease of execution because it is simple.
14:04But it requires everything that you have to offer
14:07in order to implement it for execution.
14:11That's why the call of Father Christ is the call
14:13to take up our own crosses, Luke 9, 23.
14:16If anyone come after me, he must first abandon himself,
14:25take up his cross and follow me.
14:29Guys, we need all hands on deck is what I'm saying.
14:31Not armed with some humanistic mechanism
14:36to assert one's will against somebody else,
14:38but armed with the truth of God's holy word,
14:41empowered and super intended by God the Holy Spirit,
14:44and fearing no one but God.
14:47Because the only way we lose is if we quit.
14:51And for far too long, we've had too many people on the bench complaining that actually being
14:56in the game, putting feet to the pavement.
15:01A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker.
15:05Sheep desperately need a shepherd, and we are like sheep.
15:10The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.
15:14Psalm 23 is not just a nice poem, it actually is one of the most favorite passages in all
15:19of God's Word.
15:20But the fact is, it's not just a nice poem, a nice song to be drawn from.
15:26It's a weapon, an important tool for us to read and meditate on every day to confess and
15:32stand on.
15:33Father, thank you for the gift.
15:35Psalm 23 is.
15:36Thank you for the opportunity for us to speak Psalm 23 and to know that we can trust your
15:42Word.
15:43You have guidance, you have counsel, you have encouragement, strength, wisdom and power,
15:48much more for us as we simply read and meditate on your word and listen to the voice of you,
15:53our great shepherd. Thank you for the opportunity to do just that. In Jesus' name we do pray.
15:58Amen. Shiting light into the darkness, this is the Hamilton Corner, an American family radio.
16:12Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton the third here. I'm delighted to have on the program
16:17My brother, my co-laborer, Kingdom Citizen, Mighty Man of God,
16:22husband, father, co-founder of the Radiance Foundation,
16:25coming to us live from Radiance Mana.
16:29And Virginia, none other than Mr. Ryan, Bomburger, Ryan,
16:33thank you so much for joining me here on the program again.
16:35Hey, it's always great to be with you.
16:37Oh, man, it's a pleasure to have you here.
16:41I guess it was about a month and two months ago,
16:43when the release took place.
16:46I had the privilege of joining you and the whole Radiance Foundation team, the board members
16:50and all, as you released this, man, I don't really have the words even to describe what I
16:57witnessed.
16:59This documentary film titled Should Have Been Aborted, which is accompanied by a book that
17:05you have published, I believe the 24th is when the documentary went live.
17:09Is that accurate?
17:10Is that right?
17:11Well, actually we kind of had to hold on.
17:13Okay.
17:14Hold on.
17:15Man, I was overwhelmed and watching.
17:18And the thing about it is I know you and I know your story.
17:22And I still was overwhelmed by the visual,
17:27the reality of the testimony and seeing how God
17:30has woven your story together to glorify himself.
17:34This should have been a boarded project,
17:35the book and the documentary.
17:37Would you explain for the audience,
17:39for those who may not know you,
17:40most of our audience is very familiar with you.
17:43Would you explain what the should have been
17:44of what it project is the book and the documentary?
17:48Absolutely, it is actually my story.
17:50It's not a biography of God's goodness
17:53of being someone that the world would so easily write off
17:57and discard because I was born in violence.
18:01But thank heaven that I am able to flourish in victory
18:05because through God everything is possible.
18:07I was placed for adoption by my courageous birth mom
18:11who rejected the violence of abortion.
18:12In fact, oh, there's so much that I learned recently,
18:16just about my life, about my past,
18:18but really the book is really to illuminate
18:21that there's no such thing as unwanted,
18:22and everyone is wanted by someone.
18:25And the reason why I say that is because all my life,
18:28I've never known my birth family,
18:29never had any connection, never met my birth mom.
18:32But last fall, I connected with my birth family
18:35for the first time in my life,
18:37which in and of itself is a whole other, it's a lot.
18:42but it served as a catalyst for me,
18:44first of all thinking, wait a minute,
18:46I didn't write my book,
18:47my autobiography, which I started back in 2009,
18:50because I needed this chapter.
18:53Because this chapter was actually the thing
18:55that reinforced what we fight through,
18:57fight for with the Radiance Foundation,
19:00that every life has purpose.
19:03So it just reinforced that.
19:05So the book, and then I decided,
19:07well, I'm gonna write the book,
19:08I kind of feel like I need to do the documentary
19:09because I need to show the reunion,
19:11I need to show just my past and growing up love
19:14like crazy by two parents who adopted 10 out of the 13 kids.
19:18And so I took on two projects at the same time
19:21from February through May, very beginning May,
19:25and then May 5th on my birthday
19:26called El Cinco de Brio, was able to launch both.
19:30So in a nutshell, that's what it was.
19:32Man, that's what it is.
19:33You know, one of the things, and I obviously had heard it
19:35and I heard it repeated during the documentary
19:39and you were reciting some of the insults
19:41things that you've endured, because as you mentioned, that you were conceived in violence,
19:45being that your mother, your birth mom was raped.
19:51And they would refer to you as the residue of the rapist.
19:56I hate that line.
19:57Which is, you know, and again, as long as I've known you, hearing that, man, it felt like a
20:04javelin pierced my soul.
20:07And just being able to witness what God has done in you and through you, following that
20:11and how, man, you become a champion for the truth of his word concerning every single image
20:19bears bear of God has immutable God breathed purpose.
20:24And we as mankind have a responsibility of understanding that first and then embracing
20:29that as reality.
20:31I have a brief clip from the documentary that I want to show so that people can get a taste
20:36of what is coming their way soon.
20:38Listen to and watch clip number five, clip five.
20:41Yeah, it's kind of a hard call for me to make.
20:48I don't know how close you were to her, but in 1971, she had a baby, and that baby was
20:55me.
20:58Satan definitely comes to steal kill and destroy.
21:01He tried to destroy me before I was even born.
21:05I was conceived and raped, and because of that, people tell me that I should have been aborted.
21:10I really feel that God placed it in my heart to care for children who had nobody.
21:17I would make them know that they were born.
21:21This is the Bombarder Farm.
21:23All 13 kids, all the crazy noise.
21:26We loved each other a lot and sometimes we hated each other a lot too, but we were family.
21:37So that is just a small piece, just wanted to give the audience a little piece of what
21:41they can expect.
21:42I know you heard you were there, obviously.
21:45At the very beginning of the clip we played,
21:47it has you having this phone call.
21:50Would you just describe for our audience
21:52what that phone call was and take it
21:56however you want to take it, how it came together,
21:58and then how it impacted you.
21:59And then ultimately your family,
22:01including your biological family.
22:04Yes, I never had a phone call like that before.
22:09My parents had always encouraged us
22:10If we wanted to figure out or find our birth parents that they would help us.
22:14They gave us whatever information they had.
22:16So my parents gave me an envelope full of some letters and some of the stuff from the adoption agencies,
22:20some attorney letters and things of that nature.
22:24And over the course of years after I got my master's degree, I was determined I was going to find my birth mom.
22:29And that was many years ago.
22:31And I started that search back in 2004 and they searched came up without any response.
22:36So I had nothing.
22:37And I tried for years actually just to gather more information, but I had nothing.
22:43I didn't have her first name.
22:45I knew that she was white.
22:47That doesn't help.
22:48That narrows it down to what?
22:50I don't know.
22:51Tens of millions of women.
22:53Anyway, it wasn't until 2023 when I got my birth certificate.
22:57The state of Pennsylvania allowed you to get your original birth certificate.
23:00And even in my case, having been conceived in rape, I was able to get my original birth
23:06certificate.
23:07time in my life, I was able to see the name of my birth mom.
23:11And that blew my mind.
23:13Because not only did I not have a name to attach to her,
23:16I've had no image whatsoever.
23:18But that was 2023.
23:20We found a bituary of a relative of hers,
23:26then back in the fall of 2025,
23:29which then led us to the only surviving sister
23:31of my birth mom, my birth mom's name is Sharon.
23:34Her only surviving sister's name is Carol.
23:37So we get this information, I do some Facebook,
23:40stalking or whatever you wanna call it.
23:42And we figured out, okay, this person's attached
23:44to this person, that person's attached to that person.
23:46This is the right person.
23:48Found out what the phone number was,
23:51and I held that for about six days.
23:53And on the day that my wife and I were supposed
23:55to go to Pennsylvania to do a joint keynote
23:57for a pregnancy center called Align Life Ministries
23:59in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where I grew up,
24:02I decided, I'm just gonna make this call
24:05because I was so used to nothing ever happening to,
24:08you know, no one answering voicemails
24:10I never got responded to.
24:12I thought nothing's gonna happen anyway.
24:14So I call this number and this sweet woman picks up
24:18and then my heart started being like crazy
24:21and I couldn't get words out.
24:23And so I'm just trying to make sure
24:25she's the right person, she's the right Carol
24:27that I'm looking for.
24:28I asked her about her sister's names.
24:29Yes, yes, yes.
24:30And that's when I said in 1971, Sharon had a baby
24:34that baby was me and her first response was,
24:37no, no, no, I always wanted to hold you.
24:42Oh, I can't believe this.
24:44So that started me crying.
24:46She started crying and that led into an hour long phone call.
24:50Carol couldn't have been sweeter, 82 years old,
24:53never thought that she would ever meet the baby boy
24:56that she never got to hold.
24:57She was actually at my birth,
25:00but the hospital would not allow her to hold me.
25:02She actually even offered to raise me,
25:04but my birth mom felt like I couldn't get the love
25:07that I deserved and that she would have wanted to give.
25:11Carol actually offered to raise me,
25:13but my birth mom said, no, I think he needs a fresh start.
25:16I don't want him to know that he was conceived and raped.
25:20Well, I know it.
25:21And it's actually been something that God's been able to use
25:24in a powerful way, but that was my connection
25:27with birth family.
25:27I took my family down, we visited Carol.
25:30Oh, it was, honestly, it was,
25:33there were just a series of events
25:34that can only be explained by God.
25:38So that was my first connection with Birth Family,
25:41which then led to the next day,
25:43connection with another relative,
25:45which was Carol's daughter.
25:47Yeah. And it was not even linked to the phone call.
25:49That was at the banquet that Bethany and I were speaking at.
25:52Yeah. Bethany being your wife.
25:55Bethany, yes, Bethany is my wife.
25:56And we met Mindy, Carol's daughter,
25:59who was at that bank would not because Carol knew
26:01that I was a speaker.
26:02Because I didn't tell her anything
26:03about the Radiance Foundation didn't tell her
26:04what I do for a living.
26:05Because I didn't want her actually, to be honest,
26:07to reject me out front.
26:11But Mindy was invited two weeks prior to this bank
26:14with this gala.
26:16And all of a sudden she hears my name being announced.
26:18My mom just called me last night.
26:19Wait, this can't be the same person that she just talked
26:21about who the long lost son of my aunt Sharon.
26:25And he's on that stage.
26:27It was so...
26:28I mean, you would look at it as insane
26:30if you didn't look at it through what God does.
26:33Absolutely. Absolutely.
26:35I mean, and again, I don't want to spoil anything,
26:37but I remember watching this during the film and the premiere,
26:41and I am riveted.
26:42I cannot move.
26:45The allergy somehow started operating
26:48in the middle of Cornerstone Chapel.
26:50And it is like, this can't be real,
26:54But it is so real.
26:56And you said something amazing.
26:58In a small clip we played,
27:00your mom, Andrea Bromberger,
27:02is speaking and talking about the desire
27:05that she had in her heart.
27:06That was a God-given thing to offer love.
27:10In an expansive fashion,
27:12would you just speak a little bit to that
27:14and how she was a driving force
27:16and cobbling together your wonderfully handwoven
27:20by God masterpiece of a family
27:21that you were able to grow up in?
27:23Yes, and my family, 15 strong, 13 kids, 10 were adopted.
27:27White, black, mixed Native American Vietnamese, able disabled, started with the
27:33brokenness of a five year old.
27:35So my mom grew up with a father who was a very heavy drinker and a nasty person to
27:41her, her mom emotionally and psychologically.
27:43So her parents separated and at the age of five, my mom went into a children's
27:47home called Christ Home in Paradise.
27:49And for that one year, that's where God transformed her life.
27:53She gave her life to Jesus after a preacher gave a message.
27:56She knew about God, but didn't know about accepting Jesus as your
27:59Savior. And so at the age of five, accepted Jesus as her
28:02Savior. She noticed that other kids at that orphanage didn't have
28:06parents to come visit them. At least her mom came to visit her
28:09every week. But no one came for those other children. And it
28:13moved a little girl's heart to the point where she basically made
28:19a promise to God that she would be a mommy to those who didn't
28:21have one. And so that's where that heart for adoption began. She met my dad, who was the
28:28most amazing man that I've ever known in my life, and who shared that. At first he thought
28:32she was like a little off the wall, little crazy as he put it. But then he realized this
28:37isn't crazy. This is what God's called us to do. And he said, as every new child came
28:42into the family, he loved them just as much as mom loved them. They knew that they were
28:47called to this, but it started with the brokenness of a five-year-old.
28:51It's amazing to see how God brings beauty from ashes.
28:54It's just a wonderful, wonderful testament to His glory and to the goodness He allows us
29:00to experience when we respond to His leading and His callings on our lives.
29:06You are the person that when people are advocating for what I describe as the premeditated intentional
29:12homicide of unborn children, preborn children, they would raise
29:17your circumstance as a red herring to justify what they know to be, a fraction of the occurrences.
29:27Would you just speak to that for a moment?
29:28First of all, the fact that the circumstances when children are conceived in rape or incessant
29:34or when abortion is pursued to preserve their life and the mother, that is not even really
29:39what we're discussing largely, even though it's brought up as a red herring.
29:43in that context that the circumstances of one's conception has no bearing on the value of the human
29:50being that's been brought to fruition. Would you just speak to that, please?
29:52Well, absolutely. I mean, that's why I say I am the 1% used to justify 100% of abortions.
30:00When we look at rape-related pregnancies and abortions in America, we're talking over a million
30:04abortions each year, less than 1% of those are due to rape and incest. And I don't say they less than
30:10than 1% to trivialize, because I'm not
30:12to trivialize my own life when I'm talking about,
30:15but most marginalized amongst the marginalized, that was me.
30:19And so people will constantly use that, pretending
30:22that basically the 98 plus percent of all other abortions
30:26are because of these reasons.
30:28But what they fail to recognize is that our worth
30:31isn't dependent upon any circumstance.
30:33Doesn't depend upon your perceived or actual ability.
30:37It doesn't depend upon these things that we can't control.
30:39And what I never hear from the pro-abortion side
30:43is talk about punishing the rapist.
30:45I mean, this is what's mind-blowing to me.
30:49In 1977, four years after Roe v. Wade,
30:52the same Supreme Court ruled in Koka v. Virginia,
30:55I'm sorry, versus Georgia,
30:57that it was cruel and unusual punishment
31:00for a rapist to get a death penalty.
31:03So four years prior, they said a child could be killed
31:06for any reason throughout the entire pregnancy,
31:08including partial birth abortion.
31:09That was fine, but a rapist, it was cruel and unusual,
31:13but yet the pro-abortion activists immediately go
31:16to the punishment of the child, the punishment actually,
31:19the woman too, because she suffers emotionally, psychologically,
31:22and physically from the violence of abortion.
31:25But I just feel like part of my existence
31:29is to be able to tell another side of the story
31:31that Trionne can rise from tragedy.
31:34And so that's why when people talk, you know,
31:35exceptions cases where they say the hard cases,
31:38I call them the heart cases because we know what the heart does.
31:42It's wickedly deceptive, right?
31:44Scripture tells us that.
31:46But I want to be that face to something that is often so abstract to people.
31:52And for Christians, especially we have no excuse.
31:55There is no asterisk.
31:56There's no disclaimer that says, oh, wait, those he created, regardless of the circumstances,
32:02those are lesser than, and these are the ones who deserve like, no.
32:06Every one of us is fearfully, wonderfully made.
32:08Did God mean for my birth mom to go through that horrific ordeal?
32:12No, not at all.
32:14I'm sure he wept at that moment that my birth mom went through that.
32:18Our fallenness, the fallenness of our humanity leads to these horrific things.
32:23But when we act like Christ and we bring light into these situations,
32:28we can have radically different journeys for people.
32:33Just like my mom's journey from a broken five-year-old girl
32:36in an alcoholic's home changed her into a mother of 13
32:41and beautifully changed the life of so many,
32:44the same way with my situation
32:47that God can redeem all things and redeem all people,
32:51including the rapist.
32:53Amen.
32:54But as I said, the rapist.
33:01The mission of AFA is to inform, equip,
33:03and activate individuals and families
33:05strengthen the moral foundation of American culture
33:08and to give aid to the church here and abroad,
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33:35The Hamilton Quarter Podcast
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33:41back to the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
33:45Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner.
33:47My guest is Ryan Bombarder, co-founder of the Radiance
33:50Foundation, author of the book Should Have Been Aborted.
33:54Primary, should I say, protagonist in the documentary
33:59Should Have Been Aborted.
34:00That is coming soon.
34:00I will be available to you.
34:02I'm just so enjoying this conversation.
34:06Seeing Roe versus Wade and Planned Parenthood versus Casey
34:10overturned via the Dobbs case was something that many people have been working for for years,
34:16some working, not even expecting to ever see that happen in their lifetimes. Yet it was a moment by
34:22God, sovereign and divine providence, He allowed us to enjoy. But following that, we've seen really
34:29the prevalent usage of the abortion drugs. And we often talk about the pill, but it's actually two
34:38pills and we're seeing that use even more and more in the post-row world. What would
34:47you say to those who are listening who may be a bit discouraged by that, seeing
34:51how certain states fought feverishly for the right to enshrine, the ability to kill
34:57I hate to say it that way but it's what it is to murder unborn children according
35:01to state law. What would you say to those who are listening to you that are
35:03encouraged by your story but are also confronted with the reality of where
35:06things are on the legal front in our nation?
35:09Well, we have to constantly be aware of what's truly going on.
35:13So never stop just being intentional about understanding
35:17what's going on culturally, legislatively.
35:19But we also can't get discouraged by that.
35:21I mean, I think of how long it took for abolition.
35:24And one of the main reasons why abolition took so long
35:26is where was the church?
35:28And where is the church today?
35:29So even though I realized that the battleground has changed
35:33because of the DIY chemical abortion drugs,
35:36We cannot give up hope. Yes, there are states that have enshrined this violence as a right in
35:42their constitutions. Our state here in Virginia is doing the same thing this fall. And sadly,
35:48there are so many Christians who are disconnected. But I'm never going to give up hope. I mean,
35:52thank heaven abolitionists never gave up hope. Do you know how many times they failed? Do you know
35:58how many times they thought it was impossible that the 13th amendment couldn't even imagine
36:03that there would be a 13th Amendment,
36:05a 14th Amendment, a 15th Amendment,
36:06the Reconstruction Amendments.
36:08So we just can't give up.
36:09We may be defeated today,
36:11but the victory may be around the corner.
36:12Dobs, as limited as it was, was a victory.
36:16A huge victory.
36:17I mean, with the political landscape the way it was,
36:19that shouldn't have happened on paper,
36:21that shouldn't have happened.
36:23So I'm never gonna give up hope.
36:24I'm gonna keep on fighting.
36:25I mean, we're dealing with this whole reality
36:27that life is now the Supreme Court failed,
36:31And it's compromised by kicking it to the states and saying that life is a state's rights issue.
36:36No, it isn't.
36:37What if slavery were a state's rights issue or women's suffrage or, you know, many other
36:42civil rights if it were left to the states?
36:45We'd have a crazy patchwork.
36:47You can be enslaved here, but not enslaved.
36:48And obviously that didn't work well and led to a civil war.
36:51But I'm not saying that this should lead to a civil war.
36:53I don't want anybody to die.
36:55I don't want any life to be destroyed.
36:57But we cannot give up hope.
36:59And we cannot give up.
37:01We have to keep on speaking, we have to keep on fighting.
37:03And church, can you please arise?
37:05I mean, what are you waiting for?
37:06What are you waiting for?
37:08We don't need churches, you know,
37:1050 years from now, 100 years from now,
37:12giving their denominational apologies
37:14because of their lack of involvement
37:17and their lack of involvement in fighting for justice.
37:21Biblical justice.
37:23Amen.
37:24Amen.
37:24So while we're on the topic,
37:26for those who may not be aware,
37:27how can people keep up with the vital work you
37:30and Bethany do and the whole radiance team
37:32to the Radiance Foundation and how can they support
37:35this documentary and book being spread far and wide
37:38because for everybody who would say to you,
37:41what about the end of this rape?
37:43And you can say, I have a bomb burger for your question.
37:47And now you have heard his voice and you've seen his face
37:50and that this is not just a hypothetical,
37:51this is very, very real.
37:53How can people keep up with the work that you were doing?
37:55Very real.
37:56Yes, you could find out the work that we do
37:58at radiance.life, that's R-A-D-I-A-N-C-E.life.
38:02Also the book, you wanna follow the book,
38:03and the documentary, when it will come out right now,
38:06we're working with a major streaming platform.
38:08And so hopefully we will get the result
38:11of some of those workings in the next week.
38:14But if you go to shouldhavebeenaborted.com,
38:17that's where you can get the book,
38:18that's where you will be able to watch
38:19the documentary, the trailers on there.
38:21And there are also possibilities there
38:23for screenings at your church or your organization.
38:26a great way to be able to talk about this issue.
38:29Powerful, I mean, it is powerful, not because of me,
38:34but because of a God who breaks through
38:36the impossible every single day.
38:38Hey man, we'll make sure we have those links
38:40in the show notes for today's program.
38:42I also wanted to invite you to weigh in on this
38:44because as you mentioned, this is a biblical justice issue.
38:48And when you have this callous,
38:50and this I didn't even recall that you referred
38:53to the scripture in the film,
38:54But I started the program today with John 1010,
38:56that the thief comes only to steal, to kill, and to destroy.
39:02When you see such a prevalent disdain for human life
39:06in our culture, what does that say from your viewpoint
39:10about our culture and the callousness
39:11that is set in concerning human life?
39:14Well, it's deeply concerning.
39:16I mean, because if you can disregard this life one day,
39:19well, your life is gonna be disregarded another day.
39:21It reminds me of George Washington Carver
39:23talked about being kind to everyone at every stage of their life, because at one point,
39:27you will be all these things.
39:28That's a paraphrase of his quote.
39:30But it's so true.
39:31And it's biblical.
39:33It's why we're supposed to love one another.
39:35If we actually looked at life through the biblical lens that we, that we Christians claim
39:40that we, we uphold, we would see things differently.
39:43We would react differently.
39:44And we certainly wouldn't write off certain lives because they didn't fit somebody's picture
39:49of perfection.
39:51It's really scary to me how much even the church is embracing a culture of death, giving
39:58all kinds of justifications where there is no justification.
40:01There's no defense of the indefensible when you're talking about the slaughter.
40:06We're talking over a million every year.
40:08We're talking about a predatory industry that depends on fatherlessness, that depends on
40:13vulnerable communities, that depends on a woman acting out of fear.
40:17But we have resources instead.
40:18We have the 3,000 plus pregnancy centers that walk through these journeys with mothers and
40:23fathers and care for children up to usually about two years after they're born, by the
40:27way, 450 maternity homes.
40:29We have adoption agencies.
40:30There are life affirming alternatives.
40:33States now have alternative to abortion programs.
40:36I mean, Texas, they're pouring 100 million into their program.
40:41These are life affirming programs in over, let's see, now I think there are 20 states
40:46that have these kinds of 19 states,
40:48that have these programs.
40:50This is a good start, but this culture of death,
40:56we have to confront it, we have to challenge it.
40:59And if the church is gonna be silent, that's okay.
41:01I'll keep on screaming the truth from a mountaintop somewhere.
41:05Well, you won't be alone, brother,
41:06because I'll be screaming right there with you.
41:08And I think this horrible scenario,
41:10and I've discussed this on the show,
41:12I don't wanna invite you to just help our audience
41:15to navigate this issue where you have the YouTuber,
41:18Jesse Ridgeway, who he and his wife
41:22walk their audience through the fact that,
41:24hey, we're having a baby and they affirm
41:27that they knew it was a child
41:28and they even shared publicly, we know it's a baby boy.
41:31And then when they got information
41:33that gave an indication that the child may have tricomy 21,
41:38which would be indicative of Down Syndrome,
41:40not even knowing if that's actually going to happen.
41:42And then they make the decision and try to cloak the sociopathic carnage in a perception
41:48of compassion to say because of the potential that our child may have some difficulty and
41:55our lives may be a little more difficulty that we will compassionately murder our child to
42:01prohibit that from happening.
42:04That is touchstone sociopathy on display for the world to see.
42:10Right.
42:11I mean, this is a guy who's like clickbait king.
42:14So one, I don't even know if any of that was true.
42:16I don't know his psycho series on YouTube that made him famous years ago.
42:21He's trying to keep living on the fumes of that.
42:25So I don't know if it is real, but if it is real, there are people who have been faced with that.
42:30And unfortunately, the medical field constantly throws the violence of abortion as the solution.
42:35I grew up, my God brothers and God sisters have down syndrome.
42:38That's, I grew up with the Rooney family.
42:41I love them.
42:41Barb, Don, Rooney, love them, their children.
42:44I have sisters and brothers who have physical disabilities.
42:50And I can't even imagine like they are not lesser than because of any real or perceived
42:56disability.
42:57And so Jesse Ridgeway, I just find it so, I just find it so repulsive that somehow,
43:05oh wait, this is not, this is not our picture of perfection.
43:08and therefore we have to destroy them.
43:09What happens the next time to get pregnant?
43:10Oh, because, oh wait, we really wanted a boy,
43:13we didn't want a girl, so we're gonna abort her.
43:15I mean, this is the mentality.
43:17It is such a sick mentality that says,
43:19you can just throw away human life
43:21because it's inconvenient.
43:26And it's mindset too that somehow,
43:28well, it's going to mess up our quality of life.
43:32What does that even mean?
43:34I mean, there are difficulties in life.
43:36I don't get, I have biological children.
43:37Sometimes they're difficult.
43:39There are difficulties that happen.
43:41And what makes us, you know, this is how I see it.
43:43What makes us strong as a society
43:46is when we defend the weak, our strength,
43:49the way that we show love and compassion,
43:52is in defending the weak, not in destroying the weak.
43:55And the ridgeways of the world to me are,
43:57it's not something to emulate.
43:59I mean, that's why I loved at leasing the pushback
44:02from families who have children with disabilities,
44:05particularly who have children with Down syndrome,
44:08and showing you the absolute love.
44:10I mean, there is something so different.
44:12I know this having grown up in it,
44:14getting a hug from my God's sister,
44:16Andrea Rose named after my mom, by the way.
44:20There's nothing like it.
44:21And if this were real, if this actually happened,
44:24I feel so bad for Jesse and his wife
44:28for having made such a callous decision.
44:33There is help and there is hope.
44:35and there's joy beyond what we can even imagine
44:39being a father, being a mother,
44:40and they have robbed themselves,
44:42loved it, if in fact, she was truly pregnant.
44:46It is a demonstration, and I referred to being a sociopathic
44:51before, but it shows that there is a dangerous,
45:00murderous side to narcissism,
45:04you know, to where if there is any encroachment upon my perception of my kind of Maslow's hierarchy of self-actualization
45:14that I'm willing willing to kill in order to protect that and it's no different than when I heard
45:22Chelsea Clinton say that she was lauding the realities of abortion because of the billions of dollars that women had been able to earn
45:30in lieu of them being parents and it provoked my mind
45:35because I practiced criminal law for a decade
45:37and that was one of the legal definitions
45:39for capital murder in the state of Texas
45:41that is a murder for a pecuniary benefit.
45:44So you're telling me that you're willing to kill people
45:48for the financial benefit?
45:50How are you any different from the person
45:53who's doing that on the corner?
45:54You know what the difference is?
45:56They estimate value based on proximity
45:59to the cervix.
46:01And that is, that is calling to me,
46:05how can we present ourselves as a civilized society
46:08when to your point we are willing to use strength
46:12to pummel those who cannot defend themselves.
46:16Right, I mean, we talk about all the time,
46:18we talk about the history of eugenics in America
46:20and this incredible book called War on the Week
46:22and it talked about the evil of the eugenics society
46:25and how it constantly was waging this war
46:27against the vulnerable.
46:30or Planned Parenthood called charities evil institutions that they
46:35Perpetuated the stock of humans that we want less of and this is the the mindset and now we celebrate it
46:45People could celebrate on social media and get lauded for killing their child
46:51slaughtering their child
46:53I don't understand it other than
46:56And the fact that as a Christian, I see it for what it is.
46:59This is a spiritual battle.
47:01And we're talking over a million slaughtered every year.
47:06And the world's out there celebrating it.
47:08The world's out there throwing a party.
47:10Yeah, the ridgeways of the world,
47:13they're going to keep on spewing their lies.
47:16But my question is, when will the people of God actually
47:19stand up and say, this is enough?
47:23I mean, it took way too long for slavery to be abolished,
47:27and it's taking way too long for abortion to be abolished.
47:31In about a minute, Ryan, maybe a minute and a half,
47:35what are some of the things that you would recommend
47:37that churches should do, and that individual Christians
47:39should do, and that we can do to push back
47:41against this culture of death?
47:45We have to separate ourselves from entertainment culture
47:49for a little bit.
47:50How about, let's stop all the binge watching
47:53and spend time volunteering in our church,
47:56spend time being aware of who is in need around us.
47:59And one of the greatest ways, I think,
48:01for you to understand how the church
48:04can have such a profound impact on life
48:07is volunteer at your local pregnancy center.
48:09Pregnancycenters.org is the easiest way
48:12to find out your local pregnancy center.
48:14Volunteer, they're looking for people to volunteer.
48:16They're looking for men as mentors.
48:17A lot of these centers are also mentoring young men.
48:20There are a lot of guys who don't know what it means
48:21to be a man, don't know what it means to be a father.
48:24Men step up, Christian men, Christian fathers step up.
48:29This is one of the easiest ways.
48:30These are local Prangasi centers.
48:32I mean, you probably have one that's maybe 15, 20,
48:3530 minutes away from you.
48:37It's one of the best ways to get involved.
48:39Pastors, stop being fearful.
48:43I mean, we are called to not have a spirit of fear,
48:46but a power of love and a sound mind
48:48and use that power of love and sound mind at the pulpit
48:51and start speaking about these things.
48:52And don't write it off or we don't talk about
48:53social issues from the pulpit.
48:54Do you talk about sin?
48:56Because what is a social issue but the manifestation of sin?
48:59So talk about it.
49:01People are literally, I mean, they are dying to hear
49:07the truth from the...
49:09The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast
49:12may not necessarily reflect those
49:14of the American Family Association
49:15or American Family Radio.

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