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March 10, 2026 · 50:48

What precipitated the 1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran? Bill Federer, Founder of The AmericanMinute explains the history.

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0:00 - 15:00. 2 Peter 1:1-9. “For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they render you neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of LORD Jesus Christ. 15:00 - 31:00. What precipitated the 1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran? Bill Federer, Founder of The AmericanMinute explains the history. 31:00 - 48:00. When we understand rightly what has happened it helps us to see what is happening with appropriate clarity. | 1-800-326-4543 ext. 345 To donate call: 877-616-2396

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  1. 0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
  2. 0:02It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
  3. 0:06This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
  4. 0:10It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite.
  5. 0:15Delivery people out of the bondage of mainstream media.
  6. 0:18And the philosophies of this world.
  7. 0:20God has called you and me to be his ambassador.
  8. 0:23Even in this dark moment.
  9. 0:26Let's not miss our moment.
  10. 0:28And now, the Hamilton Corner.
  11. 0:31Good evening, everybody.
  12. 0:34Welcome to the Hamilton Corner.
  13. 0:35My name is Abraham Hamilton, the third.
  14. 0:39Joined by the corner contingent right across from me
  15. 0:41is our friendly neighborhood with a haulik,
  16. 0:44perpetual in recovery.
  17. 0:46You ask him how he's doing, he might just say,
  18. 0:49fairly partly cloudy with a slight chance of brain.
  19. 0:53That's what he might say.
  20. 0:56Mr. Bobby Rosa is not, is a little bit under the weather.
  21. 0:59Today, so we have Mr. Marty Sparks
  22. 1:01up the dark from inside the studio this evening. And in the screening room, producers grew in
  23. 1:06air often imitate and never duplicated the real Jay Mac ladies and gentlemen. We are ready to rock
  24. 1:12and roll with today's edition of the program. At this very moment, many of you have not most of
  25. 1:19you are making your transition from your part time jobs where you generate an income to your full time
  26. 1:24jobs where you cultivate an outcome. And as you do so, I want to remind you to make this transition
  27. 1:30with intentionality. You know, they're a terrorist attacks, attempts in New York, around Gracie
  28. 1:40Manchin, and then you have the newly elected Islamist mayor who seems to condemn the people
  29. 1:48who would be victimized by the terrorist attack. And that interesting we have, and I'm going to
  30. 1:58and he helped processing this one.
  31. 2:00But can anybody help me understand why the Republicans in the U.S. Senate won't pass the
  32. 2:04Save America Now Act?
  33. 2:07Something as popular, nationwide as voter ID, that's something that is universally popular.
  34. 2:15Democrats supported, independent supported, Republican voters I'm talking about, Democrat
  35. 2:18voters supported, independent voters supported, Republican voters supported.
  36. 2:23And I spoke at length about the absurdity and the chicaneary and frankly the wickedness
  37. 2:32involved in Democrat senators opposing the Save America Now Act.
  38. 2:38But Republicans won't pass it.
  39. 2:41John Thune, President Trump has said that he won't sign any bills until the senators pass
  40. 2:47the Save America Now Act.
  41. 2:49John Thune says, well, we're not doing anything about it.
  42. 2:55If the Republican Party will not cause the US senators, and let me be specific, it is
  43. 3:01the Republicans in the US Senate to pass the Save America Now Act, what good is the party?
  44. 3:09We can't do something that basic as a nation.
  45. 3:20It really, it's really, really telling when you see things like that happening.
  46. 3:26And we have the Operation Epic Fury that's underway.
  47. 3:34Central Command has reported there's been a seventh US soldier who's lost their lives.
  48. 3:42And that is contrasted with the Iranian women's soccer team who made, it seems like it wouldn't
  49. 3:50be the most outrageous thing, but it was a bold, courageous thing for them to do when
  50. 3:55they refused to sing the National Anthem at an international soccer match.
  51. 3:59And we have people like Megan Rapinoe here, they talk about everything under the sun, but
  52. 4:04they won't say that.
  53. 4:05I haven't heard anything yet in support of these women who literally risk their lives.
  54. 4:11And the nation of Australia has extended, I should say, immigration receptivity to the
  55. 4:22entire team.
  56. 4:26Some of the girls who were forced to, some of the women were forced to board the bus to go
  57. 4:30back to areas.
  58. 4:31It's an amazing thing that's happening.
  59. 4:33The nation has declared the soccer team, the Iranian women's soccer team.
  60. 4:37Let me see if it's specific.
  61. 4:41The terrorist apocalyptic jihadist regime has declared the Iranian women's soccer team to
  62. 4:48be traitors.
  63. 4:52I think one of the most important things that has happened as a result of Operation Epic
  64. 4:57Fury that needs to transpire here in the United States of America is that there needs to be
  65. 5:01far more consistent and robust candid conversations.
  66. 5:05When we talk about the rogue regime in Iran, we need to be more specific about what we're
  67. 5:10talking about.
  68. 5:11We're talking about zealous, demonically inspired murderers who use their religion as
  69. 5:20the impetus to bathe the world in blood and they're running a country that Obama sent
  70. 5:28pallets of cash to.
  71. 5:29Remember that?
  72. 5:30Yeah.
  73. 5:34These events swirling internationally very easy to consume our attention and focus.
  74. 5:40But I would submit to you, they underscore the necessity of parents taking the lead into
  75. 5:47in discipling our children.
  76. 5:49They underscore the necessity of Christ followers in our nation, executing our King's Commission
  77. 5:54to make disciples.
  78. 5:56The Commission is not simply or exclusively to make converts.
  79. 6:00It is to make disciples.
  80. 6:02We must do this, guys.
  81. 6:05We must, to the word of God we go.
  82. 6:10Second Peter chapter one, second Peter chapter one.
  83. 6:14And I'm saying this as I do regularly because what goes on in your house is more important
  84. 6:19than what goes on in the White House.
  85. 6:21Those things are vitally important guys, but they're not more important than what you and
  86. 6:25I are responsible for in our homes.
  87. 6:31Hospitality is a great disciple making tool.
  88. 6:38life is a great disciple making context. Much of what has been falling our nation is a direct
  89. 6:46result of a lack of disciples being made generationally. But now is the time to reverse that course.
  90. 6:55Second Peter chapter one, the Apostle Peter is writing, and it's important to note that he's
  91. 7:03writing in an environment and a context where persecution is on the rise in the Roman Empire.
  92. 7:11Christ's followers, followers of the way of Messiah, are being murdered simply because they are
  93. 7:18followers of the way. And in that context, the Apostle Peter writes to 2 Peter chapter 1,
  94. 7:27verse 1, Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have received a faith
  95. 7:34of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ, grace and peace
  96. 7:41be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord. Seeing that his
  97. 7:47divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness through the true knowledge
  98. 7:54of him who called us by his own glory and excellence. For by these he has granted to
  99. 8:00us his precious and magnificent promises so that by them you may become partakers of the
  100. 8:06divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust.
  101. 8:11Now, for this very reason also, applying all diligence in your faith.
  102. 8:17Supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge.
  103. 8:21And in your knowledge, self-control, and in your self-control perseverance, and in your
  104. 8:27perseverance, godliness.
  105. 8:30And in your godliness, brotherly kindness.
  106. 8:33and in your brotherly kindness, love, for if these qualities are yours and are increasing,
  107. 8:41they render you, neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ,
  108. 8:50for he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification
  109. 8:57from his former sins.
  110. 9:05I present this text with a sobriety in my heart, with a solemnness in my heart. Because for too
  111. 9:17long, far too long in our country, and I'm going to say this, that there is a distinction between
  112. 9:25churchy entity and Christianity, Christ-geanity. For far too long, we have conflated church familiarity
  113. 9:33with disciple making and discipleship.
  114. 9:37And those things are not the same.
  115. 9:39Here the apostle Peter is writing to the church
  116. 9:42in an environment where overt physical hostile persecution
  117. 9:45is ascending.
  118. 9:47And he is challenging the body of Christ
  119. 9:51with the reality that you can be born again.
  120. 9:55You and I may very well be born again.
  121. 10:00But the possibility exists for you to be
  122. 10:03as verse eight says in the text of your watching the show,
  123. 10:05You can see it on the screen.
  124. 10:06Look at verse eight.
  125. 10:08It says, if these qualities are yours and they are increasing,
  126. 10:14if these qualities are yours and they are increasing,
  127. 10:17they render you neither useless or unfruitful.
  128. 10:24We need to invite the Spirit of God to examine us,
  129. 10:30and to assess as we may profess being followers
  130. 10:35of Yeshua the Messiah.
  131. 10:38We need to be honest about whether we are useless and unfruitful in our knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.
  132. 10:46I know it's a stinging concept to confront.
  133. 10:51It's a stinging reality to consider.
  134. 10:55It is, but it is a reality nonetheless.
  135. 10:59Other translations rendered at same phrasing as being barren and unproductive in our knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.
  136. 11:09Brothers and sisters, are you useless in your knowledge of Christ?
  137. 11:18Are you unfruitful in your knowledge of Christ?
  138. 11:21Well, what do you mean when you say unfruitful?
  139. 11:24Very simply, does your Christ following impact anybody beyond yourself?
  140. 11:30And when I say impact, I don't mean generalized ideas of goodness and kindness and neighborliness.
  141. 11:38Those things are absolutely necessary.
  142. 11:39commanded by the Lord to do good to all people, but especially the household of faith.
  143. 11:45But what I'm asking is a more pointed question because notice the Apostle Peter combined.
  144. 11:51So should I say, pairs, uselessness and fruitfulness or say a better uselessness and unfruitfulness,
  145. 12:00he pairs them together. Why does he do that? Because the assessment of fruitfulness,
  146. 12:05I should have said usefulness as the Spirit of God is moving the Apostle Peter to our
  147. 12:10particularly, usefulness in our knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ is demonstrable by
  148. 12:17our fruitfulness.
  149. 12:20Are we outposts for others to come to know Jesus Christ?
  150. 12:25Are we vehicles through which and through whom others, as Matthew 28 says, others come to
  151. 12:32obey Jesus in everything He commands us?
  152. 12:38One of the things that has fallen by the wayside in our understandings of being Christ followers
  153. 12:44is that we have a responsibility to help others to think Christ's thoughts after Him, to where
  154. 12:52we welcome the Lordship of our Messiah to supersede and to pervade, to permeate, and penetrate
  155. 12:59every aspect of who we are.
  156. 13:04Jesus said we are to worship our Lord with our hearts, our souls, and our minds, and our
  157. 13:09minds.
  158. 13:11But for far too long, we've allowed the world, and I'm going to be more specific.
  159. 13:16We've allowed antichrist forces to have a monopoly on the cultivation of the mind.
  160. 13:22So when it comes to the most professing believers in America, most professing Christ followers,
  161. 13:27if we are to be honest about it, we think in worldly terms.
  162. 13:31We allow the ways of the world to govern what we think is worthwhile, what is important,
  163. 13:38What is worth celebrating?
  164. 13:40What is applause worthy?
  165. 13:41What is worth investing our lives in?
  166. 13:45For too many of us, those things are determined
  167. 13:48by a godless environment.
  168. 13:52And what we don't realize that that is the feature,
  169. 13:56frankly, of disobedience.
  170. 13:59We must be reminded as to the believer
  171. 14:00that the Lord says through the Apostle Paul
  172. 14:02to the church at Rome,
  173. 14:03don't be conformed to the ways of this world,
  174. 14:05but be transformed.
  175. 14:07But what's happened to people,
  176. 14:08God is ordained to be peculiar.
  177. 14:10found safety and comfort and be in normal the way the world
  178. 14:14deforms defines normality and the whole notion of being weird
  179. 14:18weirds us out when God calls us to be peculiar and the sum total of
  180. 14:24that accumulative effect of that is what the Apostle Peter
  181. 14:27diagnosis right here that professing to be in Christ but
  182. 14:30being useless and unfruitful in our knowledge of the Lord Jesus
  183. 14:34Christ. Guys, now is the time to reverse that. Now. Now. It
  184. 14:44should jolt us that while we have in God we trust in our Federal Reserve notes.
  185. 14:49We simultaneously have the largest generation of unbelieving young people in our nation.
  186. 14:56Our nation has ever seen.
  187. 15:00A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker.
  188. 15:03The great servant of the Lord John Wesley, his word for spiritual habits was means of grace.
  189. 15:09Your prayer life is a means of grace.
  190. 15:11Your time in the word of God is a means of grace.
  191. 15:13Your obedience is a means of grace.
  192. 15:15You are praise and worship and thanksgiving.
  193. 15:17Those are means of grace.
  194. 15:18Those are tools you and I can put to work in our lives
  195. 15:21that can appropriate or help us to get a hold of
  196. 15:24and use effectively grace that's available to each
  197. 15:28and every one of us.
  198. 15:29And the fact is God has an ocean of grace available
  199. 15:33to us all, but we have to reach up and grab it.
  200. 15:36Spiritual habits help us to reach up and draw
  201. 15:38from that wonderful ocean of God's grace.
  202. 15:41Your prayer time, your time in the world,
  203. 15:43obedience. All of them help you to appropriate grace in your life and to
  204. 15:47funnel more grace to pour into your life in greater measure. It's important that we
  205. 15:51take advantage of these wonderful blessings and opportunities God gives to
  206. 15:56each and every one of us.
  207. 15:58Shiting life into the darkness. This is the Hamilton Corner, an American family radio.
  208. 16:10Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton the third year. I am just elated
  209. 16:15to have on the program with me. My friend, my brother, a man who I believe is a national
  210. 16:21treasure who must be protected at all costs, who I believe God has really, really ordained
  211. 16:27for the moment that we're facing currently. He's been on the program before. I was excited
  212. 16:31to welcome him back on the show. I'm speaking of none other than our brother Bill Federer.
  213. 16:36Bill, thank you for coming on the Hamilton Corner once again.
  214. 16:39Well, Abraham, great to be with you.
  215. 16:42Oh man, the pleasure is mine, absolutely.
  216. 16:46I was listening to you discuss really the history
  217. 16:52of Iran and really was global history
  218. 16:54broader than just Iran, but it was building
  219. 16:57toward the point of where we are currently
  220. 17:00when there's been lots of people like,
  221. 17:02no, frankly, I wasn't even, I wasn't born
  222. 17:05when the Shah was overthrown in 1979 in Iran.
  223. 17:08So you see Marty's eyes.
  224. 17:11You weren't born.
  225. 17:12No Marty, I was not born then.
  226. 17:14And so there are a lot of people who don't know a lot
  227. 17:17of the details and as you shared some of the details,
  228. 17:20like one particular fact, I don't want to take any thunder
  229. 17:24from you, but mentioning the Cadillac Seville
  230. 17:26and where it was produced, and I didn't know that.
  231. 17:28I thought it was imperative for our audience here
  232. 17:30in the Hamilton corner to kind of glean from
  233. 17:33your historical wisdom.
  234. 17:35What don't we know that we should know,
  235. 17:37concerning the events that precipitated the 1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran and how do
  236. 17:42they contribute to where we are now?
  237. 17:45Yeah, well, Iran had a long history pre-Islam and so Abraham's, excuse me, Noah's grandson
  238. 17:54through Shem is Ilum and Ilum is another name for Persia. Around 1900 BC, Abraham fought a war
  239. 18:03with the king of Elam, Chidul-Aremar, and Chastean got a lot back. And then Cyrus of Persia,
  240. 18:12which is Iran, he conquers Babylon and Assyria, and he's the one who lets the Jews go back and
  241. 18:18rebuild their temple. And in his court is Daniel, and then when Persia is taken over by Darius,
  242. 18:28Daniel's working for Darius and Darius is the one who invaded Greece and you have the
  243. 18:35Battle of Marathon and when the Greeks won 490 BC somebody ran 26.2 miles back to tell
  244. 18:43Athens that this we call it the Marathon race.
  245. 18:47And then Xerxes, Darius' son, in 490 BC, excuse me, 480 BC, he invades Greece and he
  246. 18:57He wins a couple of battles and then loses and then goes back and spends time with his
  247. 19:01harem and lo and behold, that's when he had this big party and Vashty didn't come out
  248. 19:06and he says he'll never see her again.
  249. 19:08So that's when the story of Esther comes about, right?
  250. 19:11That's in Persia.
  251. 19:13Persia is then conquered by Alexander the Great around 333 BC.
  252. 19:19And then you had the salucia general that controlled Persia and he's the one that wanted to wipe
  253. 19:24out the Jews and the Jews fought back and we call it Hanukkah.
  254. 19:27And then 63 BC, the Romans are encroaching into that area.
  255. 19:33And Pompey is the Roman general,
  256. 19:37and he more or less conquers Judea.
  257. 19:40And then gets into a war with Persia.
  258. 19:45And there's a seven century war,
  259. 19:48700 years of war between Persia and Rome.
  260. 19:51Even after Rome becomes Christian,
  261. 19:53it's still fighting Persia all the way up
  262. 19:57and they beat each other up so bad it leaves a power of action and into that power vacuum
  263. 20:01comes Islam. And so, Muhammad is born in 570 AD. I get into his whole story in my book,
  264. 20:10Whatever American Needs to Know About the Quran. He went from being a religious leader to a political
  265. 20:16leader to a military leader. At first he was in Mecca and you look at all the religions that were
  266. 20:24in their pre-Mohammed, there were the Zoroastrians in Persia that believed paradise was filled full
  267. 20:29of virgins that would fulfill all the guys' desires. And the Muhammad hears that. And then
  268. 20:34there's the pagan faith. And in Mecca, there's 360 different pagan gods. The most popular was
  269. 20:39Houbal the moon god. And they had their calendar start with the first sight of the crescent moon
  270. 20:43over the desert. And they had a glass impact rock where a meteor hit the hot desert sand and melted
  271. 20:50into this brown glass and the pagans kissed it and walked around it.
  272. 20:53Muhammad kissed that rock and it got incorporated into his belief system.
  273. 20:57He originally had his followers bowing towards Jerusalem and then there's encyclopedia Britannica.
  274. 21:04Says the gospel was made known to Muhammad through apocryphal and heretical sources.
  275. 21:08So he thought that Trinity was the father marrying Jesus.
  276. 21:10Nobody ever explained to Muhammad the Holy Spirit.
  277. 21:13And apocryphal, what's that? It's the infancy gospel of Thomas.
  278. 21:16written several centuries after Jesus by somebody who knew
  279. 21:20nothing of Jewish life.
  280. 21:22It's so full of so many errors that no scholar takes
  281. 21:24as serious, but these stories were floating around the desert.
  282. 21:27In the sixth century, Muhammad heard them.
  283. 21:30They're like Harry Potter type stories that Jesus was a little
  284. 21:32boy made clay birds and clapped and they flew away
  285. 21:35and raised a play meant from the dead.
  286. 21:36There's no other place in ancient history
  287. 21:38in these stories appear other than this infancy gospel
  288. 21:40that nobody takes serious, but Muhammad heard those stories
  289. 21:43now they're in Islam.
  290. 21:44And so, Muhammad goes out to a cave.
  291. 21:49There's a movement sweeping through Christianity
  292. 21:52called monasticism, where if you really become a Christian,
  293. 21:55you should give away your money and live in a cave
  294. 21:56as a hermit, and they call them desert fathers.
  295. 21:59And so, Muhammad goes out to a cave,
  296. 22:01and the spirit appears to him and squeezes him
  297. 22:03and commands him to read.
  298. 22:04He said, I cannot read, it happens three times,
  299. 22:07and then he begins to recite.
  300. 22:09And the word Quran means recitation, it's oral,
  301. 22:13because Muhammad was illiterate
  302. 22:14and all his followers were illiterate.
  303. 22:16And you say, how come somebody that's illiterate
  304. 22:17memorized these verses?
  305. 22:19Well, in Arabic, they had a little rhyme to them,
  306. 22:21a little beat, very similar to rap music.
  307. 22:23Anyway, so he goes back to his wife, Khadija.
  308. 22:25She's 40, he's 25, she's wealthy,
  309. 22:29and he tells her that he thinks he's demon possessed.
  310. 22:32And so she decides to have him sit on her right thigh
  311. 22:35and says, can you see the visit tent?
  312. 22:37And he says, yes, over there,
  313. 22:39she has him sit on her left thigh.
  314. 22:41Can you see him? Yes, over there.
  315. 22:42And then she begins to take off her veils.
  316. 22:45And when she takes off enough, she says,
  317. 22:47can you see him and he says, no.
  318. 22:49And she said, well, it must have been from God
  319. 22:50because it was embarrassed to look upon me
  320. 22:52without all my veils on.
  321. 22:54That was the test, right?
  322. 22:56The first John four says the test is every spirit
  323. 22:59that does not acknowledge Jesus is the Christ,
  324. 23:01is of anti-Christ, but Muhammad was a literate
  325. 23:04so he could never read the New Testament.
  326. 23:07Anyway, he goes into Mecca and he feels like there's something
  327. 23:11in his faith for everybody, Zoroastrians and Jews and Christians and pagans, but nobody
  328. 23:16likes it.
  329. 23:17And so he gets confrontational and they chase him out of town.
  330. 23:20And he goes to Medina, which was a Jewish city.
  331. 23:25Three Jewish clans controlled it.
  332. 23:27And they're nice.
  333. 23:28They let him in as the first ever Muslim immigrant.
  334. 23:30He goes into the minority neighborhoods and he begins to organize a following.
  335. 23:34His following gets bigger.
  336. 23:35He gets involved in politics.
  337. 23:38And now he's a political leader.
  338. 23:40And as followers get confrontational, they get chased out of Mecca.
  339. 23:43Now you have lots of Muslim immigrants coming into Medina.
  340. 23:46And Muhammad allows them to rob the care of ants headed to Mecca in retaliation for the
  341. 23:52Mecca's chasing them out of town.
  342. 23:54This victimhood thing, we're the victims.
  343. 23:56They weren't all in the bus.
  344. 23:57So we're justified in attacking their care of ants.
  345. 24:00Little different than Jesus who said, if they take your code, give them your shirt.
  346. 24:04So Muhammad gets verses from his Allah that he gets a fifth of the booty from robbing care
  347. 24:08One verse says, Allah has given you the slave girls as your booty.
  348. 24:13He tells us men they can have four wives plus as many extra women as the right hand possesses slave wives, concubines them.
  349. 24:20And so the Meccans send soldiers to protect their caravan, Muhammad defeats them.
  350. 24:26And then he goes back into the city of Medina and the three Jewish clans.
  351. 24:32He gets offended at the smallest one, confiscates their property, chases them out of town.
  352. 24:36And the other two sort of stand down, say, well,
  353. 24:39he's not noticing us.
  354. 24:40Now there's only two Jewish clans.
  355. 24:42He gets offended at the smaller one,
  356. 24:43confiscates her proper, chases her mouth,
  357. 24:45and the big ones just standing down and say, well,
  358. 24:47at least he's not noticing picking on us.
  359. 24:49And now there's only one Jewish clan.
  360. 24:52And he surrounds them for 28 days,
  361. 24:54brings them into the market, chops off their heads,
  362. 24:56and then sells the women and children in his slavery.
  363. 24:58So within five years of Muhammad coming as an immigrant
  364. 25:01into the Jewish city of Medina,
  365. 25:03there's not a Jew left in the city of Medina.
  366. 25:06So when Mondami said in New York last month,
  367. 25:09oh, my religion began with Mohammed being an immigrant
  368. 25:12to the city of Medina.
  369. 25:14It's like, yeah, five years later, there wasn't a Jew left.
  370. 25:19And so it's a three step process.
  371. 25:20He left that part out.
  372. 25:23Yeah.
  373. 25:24So immigrate, increase, eliminate.
  374. 25:27Immigrate as a religious refugee.
  375. 25:29Increase the number of your followers
  376. 25:30and get involved in politics.
  377. 25:32And then you have random outbreaks of violence, crime,
  378. 25:35usually by the young men, our knife's acid attacks, rapes,
  379. 25:38and the previous inhabitants of the neighborhood
  380. 25:40no longer feel safe and move out,
  381. 25:42and you can take over the neighborhood.
  382. 25:44And so there's two ways Islam spreads,
  383. 25:46the fast ways with the sword, the slow ways through immigration.
  384. 25:50And so there's freedom for all religions in America,
  385. 25:53but Islam's not just a religion,
  386. 25:55because Muhammad was not just a religious leader,
  387. 25:57he was also a political and a military leader.
  388. 26:00It's no different than if the MS-13 gang
  389. 26:02simply started calling themselves a religion.
  390. 26:06You're like, oh, you're a religion now.
  391. 26:08Yeah, yeah, well, I guess we can let you take over
  392. 26:10in the neighborhood and practice your own vigilante law
  393. 26:13and sex traffic nine year old girls, right?
  394. 26:16Because Mohammed's youngest wife was 90 years old.
  395. 26:18And you can let people join,
  396. 26:20but if they leave the gang, you kill them, like in Islam.
  397. 26:22You're free to join, but if you leave, they kill you, right?
  398. 26:25I mean, it's, that's basically what it is.
  399. 26:28And so, Mohammed promised booty in the next life.
  400. 26:32So the Muslim warriors conquered Egypt,
  401. 26:36which had been Christian for six centuries evangelized
  402. 26:39by Mark that wrote the gospel, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
  403. 26:42And then the leader in the year 1000 Al-Hakeem
  404. 26:48cut out the tongues of anybody caught speaking
  405. 26:51the Coptic language, so they eradicated
  406. 26:53the Egyptian language.
  407. 26:54And then they conquered North Africa in 10 years
  408. 26:57because the Christians had withdrawn that monasticism
  409. 27:00of their version of separation of church and state.
  410. 27:02And then they conquered Jerusalem,
  411. 27:05which had been a Byzantine Christian city
  412. 27:08and the Bishop Sefranius brokeers a deal.
  413. 27:12Instead of it being two choices, convert or die,
  414. 27:15there's a third choice that the Christians will pay taxes
  415. 27:19to their new Muslim conquerors,
  416. 27:21an annual tribute called the Jizya Tax.
  417. 27:24And so they have no problem in coming into a Christian area
  418. 27:28and letting the Christian welfare program support them.
  419. 27:31And then they conquered Syria in 648 AD.
  420. 27:34People forget Syria had been Christian
  421. 27:36for six centuries evangelized by Paul that wrote the gospel.
  422. 27:40The name Christian was first used in Syria.
  423. 27:42And then they invaded in Spain, held it for 700 years,
  424. 27:46they were stopped outside of Paris
  425. 27:47at the Battle of Tours in 732 AD,
  426. 27:50just 100 years after the death of Muhammad in 632 AD.
  427. 27:54And then they conquer into Armenia and into Turkey.
  428. 28:00So all seven churches mentioned in the book of Revelation
  429. 28:02were conquered by the Muslim Turks.
  430. 28:04The Christians begged the Catholic West for help.
  431. 28:07They send help, it's called the Crusades.
  432. 28:09When the Crusades end, they conquer Constantinople
  433. 28:12in 1453, the largest Christian city in Europe.
  434. 28:15When that happens, it cuts off the land routes
  435. 28:18to India, Marco Polo, remember?
  436. 28:20And so that's when Columbus said,
  437. 28:21say looking for a sea route, but Persia, Iran in 632, the Muslim leader Khalid ibn al-Walid
  438. 28:31called the drawn sword of Allah because he was undefeated in 100 battles.
  439. 28:35He conquers Persia.
  440. 28:39And that's when you see Persia was civilized.
  441. 28:45It had thousands of years of culture, right?
  442. 28:49of Persia, the Arabs were illiterate. They were desert raiders. But after the Muslims,
  443. 28:55the Persians were beat up with that seven century war with the with the Roman Christian Empire,
  444. 29:01right? That war. And so, but we see in the next century, Islam becoming more moderate
  445. 29:12as it takes in this Persian culture.
  446. 29:16And so it's called the Islamic Golden Age.
  447. 29:18And you had Al-Rashid and he was so tolerant,
  448. 29:24he was sending presents to Charlemagne.
  449. 29:27And they were reading Greek classics
  450. 29:30and you had a Muslim scholar named Al-Farrabi
  451. 29:34and Averos and Avasenna,
  452. 29:36and they're studying Plato and Aristotle
  453. 29:39and they're writing about astronomy and music
  454. 29:41and physics. And if you would have snapped a picture of the world, you would have thought
  455. 29:45that Islam's about to experience the Renaissance. But it all gets slapped down by a Muslim scholar
  456. 29:51named Ghazali. And he said, stop reading Greek stuff, even Greek geometry, because it'll
  457. 29:57lead you into great philosophy that'll pull you away from Islam. So those don't read anything
  458. 30:01except the Quran. So we see a closing of the Islamic mind, and then the Mongols invade,
  459. 30:08Angus Khan, and they basically wipe out the Persian capital of Baghdad and kill hundreds
  460. 30:18of thousands.
  461. 30:21And then one of the Mongolian stock type people groups was called the Turks.
  462. 30:27They were nomadic step, you know, horsemen, and they conquer what is today Turkey.
  463. 30:33And so Iran is now pretty well, it conquered.
  464. 30:42But then the Mongols end up, some of them convert to Islam and then some of them retreat.
  465. 30:49But then we have another phase is the 1500s.
  466. 30:53And you have the Muslim leader that causes Iran or Persia to become Shiite.
  467. 31:02So this is another little explanation.
  468. 31:05Yeah, because the majority of Muslims are Sunni
  469. 31:07and Shiites are a minority,
  470. 31:09but they diverge in significant ways.
  471. 31:12But go ahead, go ahead.
  472. 31:14Right, so.
  473. 31:15But they didn't start that way, but go ahead.
  474. 31:17Yeah, 15% of Muslims are Shiite,
  475. 31:20and they're mostly in Iran.
  476. 31:2285% are Sunni, and they're scattered all around.
  477. 31:26You have a fraction that are called Sufi,
  478. 31:28and they spin in circles, they're called whirling dervishes,
  479. 31:32and they're less violent, but they don't know why.
  480. 31:35But anyway, but mostly it's Sunni and Shia.
  481. 31:38So Mohammed had a daughter, Fatim, married to Ali.
  482. 31:43And the followers of Ali are called She-At Ali,
  483. 31:47the party of Ali, and so it's shortened to Shiite.
  484. 31:52And Mohammed had multiple wives,
  485. 31:56and the youngest was Aisha, the six-year-old consummated at nine.
  486. 32:00Her father is a boobacher.
  487. 32:02and he fought with Mohammed in his different 66 battles
  488. 32:05killing 3000 people.
  489. 32:07And so he said he knew the way.
  490. 32:10And so the word for the way is Sunni in Arabic.
  491. 32:13And so in Arabic.
  492. 32:15So yeah, I got a break in right here, Bill,
  493. 32:17because the disrespectful music is started.
  494. 32:18We were about to take a break, but when we come back from the break,
  495. 32:22we'll pick up right there with Abu Bakr and how the Shiite Sunni division
  496. 32:27transpired.
  497. 32:28And then we'll build from there to go toward what precipitated the 1979
  498. 32:32revolution in Iran. All right. All right. All right. Stay with us, folks. You see why I had to have
  499. 32:38Bill on because this history, many people in our country don't really even understand. And so if we
  500. 32:43don't understand what has happened, it could cloud our ability to assess what is happening. More with
  501. 32:49Bill Federer on the other side of this break. As we watch world events unfold and fulfill scripture,
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  516. 34:00War with Iran. This is David Wheaton, host of the Christian worldview. President Trump delivered a
  517. 34:06speech to the nation outlining the justification for attacking Iran jointly with Israel, which centers
  518. 34:13around Iran's decades of attacks against us in Israel and their efforts to make nuclear weapons.
  519. 34:19This is ample justification, despite most all on the political left and some on the right opposing
  520. 34:25prophetically, this is a war that involves Israel and Iran,
  521. 34:29historically Persia. The Bible says Iran will be part of a coalition
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  523. 34:37know when, but let's be ready because Jesus said, your redemption
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  534. 35:10Hamilton Quarter on American
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  536. 35:14Welcome back to the Hamilton
  537. 35:15Corner. Abraham Hamilton the
  538. 35:16third here with Bill Federer
  539. 35:18before we went to the break bill,
  540. 35:19you were explaining the Shiite
  541. 35:22Sunni distinction and you left
  542. 35:24off with Abu Bakir. Would you
  543. 35:25mind picking up right there?
  544. 35:27Right, so Abu means father of an Ibn means son of it, so that is often used in Islamic names, but Abu Bakr, depending how it's pronounced, is the father of Aisha, the nine year old that Muhammad married and since he fought with Muhammad in most of Muhammad's battles, he knew the way and so the word for the way is Sunni.
  545. 35:49And now Ali and his infatement had a Sunday in Hussein and he was at the battle of
  546. 35:58Karbalah and the Sunnis kill him and since he is a blood descendant of Muhammad
  547. 36:08this was a big deal and so it starts a blood feud between the Sunni and the
  548. 36:15Shia that goes on for 14 centuries.
  549. 36:20And so the Shiites will once a year
  550. 36:24have a festival called Ashura, where they'll get together
  551. 36:28and they'll sort of do a negative pep rally.
  552. 36:30And they'll want to stir up hatred for the Sunnis.
  553. 36:34And they'll even take knives and tap their foreheads.
  554. 36:36And so the blood goes down their face.
  555. 36:38They do it to their little boys, right?
  556. 36:40Because they want to stir up the hatred against the Sunnis
  557. 36:43for killing Hussein.
  558. 36:46Now, it was in the 1500s that you had the
  559. 36:54Shaw of Iran convert to Shiite Islam.
  560. 37:00So for the longest time, they were different versions of Sunni,
  561. 37:04but now Iran is officially Shia.
  562. 37:09And they don't like each other.
  563. 37:13One of the stories, throw it in.
  564. 37:19When the Mongols came through,
  565. 37:20there was a version of Muslims called the Hashashans,
  566. 37:24because they would smoke Hashish,
  567. 37:26and then they would take somebody to a harem
  568. 37:28and they'd have a really good time.
  569. 37:29And then when they were sobering up,
  570. 37:31they'd bring them to the front lines
  571. 37:32where they were fighting.
  572. 37:33And they said, if you die killing the Mongols,
  573. 37:36you'll go back to that party.
  574. 37:38And so they called them Haschashans or assassins.
  575. 37:42So the very word assassin,
  576. 37:44assassin is a Muslim word where you sneak into your Muslim,
  577. 37:47your enemies camp and then kill them
  578. 37:49and then let them kill you so that you can go to this part.
  579. 37:52That was one group.
  580. 37:54And then another was Tamarlyne.
  581. 37:57He is a Sunni,
  582. 37:59and kills 17 million people.
  583. 38:00I have a Quran so big that I got a carrier on the wheelbarrow.
  584. 38:03but he sacks the Persian city of Isfahan,
  585. 38:09kills 200,000 people and takes their heads
  586. 38:11and builds towers, towers of skulls.
  587. 38:15So, and then one of Tamara Lane's descendants is Babur,
  588. 38:19and he founds the mug-hall Muslim dynasty of India.
  589. 38:23And why is that important?
  590. 38:25Because the British come in and begin to start
  591. 38:28the British East India Company,
  592. 38:30and they're working together with the mug halls
  593. 38:32dynasty in India. And so the the British come down 1500s they meet with a
  594. 38:40boss the great he's one of the most famous of the Shia Muslim shawls of Persia
  595. 38:49and he starts trading with Britain and and they even take the Strait of
  596. 38:56Hormuz away from the Portuguese. So the Portuguese control the Strait of
  597. 39:01Harmuz that's in the news today, but it was taken away by Iran, Persia, with the help of
  598. 39:08the British East India Company.
  599. 39:11But then you had Turkey.
  600. 39:12So Persia, Iran has the mug halls on the East and the Turks on the West.
  601. 39:21And so the Turks make a treaty with France.
  602. 39:25The King of France, France is the first, and his enemy is Spain.
  603. 39:29They get into a war and so the king of France decides he's going to make a treaty with the
  604. 39:34Turks because they both hate Spain.
  605. 39:37And so the situation in Europe is you have Britain siding with Iran and the France siding
  606. 39:46with the Turks.
  607. 39:47And for three centuries, France is giving the Turks the latest military weapons and so
  608. 39:52forth.
  609. 39:53Napoleon was going to go over there and help them up the grade.
  610. 39:55artillery and Napoleon said no, he wanted to make himself an emperor on his own.
  611. 40:00But then fast forward oil. 1800s oil came from Wales, but then it's discovered in 1859,
  612. 40:09the Drake oil well in Pennsylvania, then Oklahoma, then in Baghdad, and then over in
  613. 40:16Iran. And Winston Churchill changed the British Navy from cold to oil. But there's really no
  614. 40:22oil in England. And so in 1908, Britain formed the Anglo-Iranian oil company, better known as
  615. 40:29BP, also known as BP. That's the Anglo-Iranian oil company, Britain and Iran. And then Germany
  616. 40:38does a treaty with the Turks. It's Kaiser Wilhelm II and Abdul Hamid II from the Berlin
  617. 40:45Baghdad Railroad and oil from Turkey and World War I starts and the Germans lose, well
  618. 40:53they're ally, the Turks lose. So the Turkish Ottoman Empire is divvied up and the British
  619. 41:00mandate is given to the Jews all the way from the Mediterranean to the Euphrates and
  620. 41:08you know, Syria down to Egypt.
  621. 41:11And then Iraq is given to the son of the Shah,
  622. 41:18the Sharifa Mecca, Fazal,
  623. 41:22and then Lebanon and Syria are protectorates of France,
  624. 41:26but they almost get into another war with the Arabs.
  625. 41:29Lawrence of Arabia is the guy that talked the Arabs
  626. 41:32into helping the British defeat the Turks.
  627. 41:35And then he did it by lying to them,
  628. 41:36telling them that they would get all the land in the Middle East.
  629. 41:39And so that laid the groundwork for the problem.
  630. 41:42Winston Churchill decides he's gonna take two thirds
  631. 41:45of the land he gave the Jews and create an Arab state,
  632. 41:48sort of a Palestinian state, and he names it Jordan.
  633. 41:52And he says, that'll be the homeland, right?
  634. 41:54And since two thirds of the land that he originally gave
  635. 41:58the Jews has now taken away to create this Arab state
  636. 42:02called Jordan.
  637. 42:03But back to Iran, back to Persia.
  638. 42:05After World War I, they get a secular leader named Reza Shah,
  639. 42:10R-E-Z-A, and he wants to let women get educated
  640. 42:14and let them wear the latest fashions
  641. 42:15and want to have, he dresses in business suits
  642. 42:18and gets, wants to separate himself from the Shiite Islam.
  643. 42:21Meanwhile in Turkey, you have added Turkey
  644. 42:25and he wants to secularize Turkey
  645. 42:28and get rid of the fesses and the burkas
  646. 42:30and the Arabic calls to prayer and everything.
  647. 42:33He says, Turkey was a great nation before Islam came in.
  648. 42:36He said, Muhammadism is nothing more than Arab politics.
  649. 42:39And then you begin to have secular leaders
  650. 42:41and it looks like the Arab Persian world
  651. 42:45is gonna be pro-West until 1928.
  652. 42:48The Muslim Brotherhood has started.
  653. 42:49And they decide the same way that Muhammad
  654. 42:52immigrated into Medina and then killed the Jews there.
  655. 42:56The Muslim Brotherhood strategy is infiltrate countries
  656. 42:59and then do assassinations.
  657. 43:01And so they assassinated Abdullah, the king of Jordan.
  658. 43:05They tried assassinating others.
  659. 43:06They did assassinate on war, Sadat in Egypt
  660. 43:09because he made a treaty with the Jewish leader,
  661. 43:11Manak and Bacon.
  662. 43:13But what happened in Iran?
  663. 43:15Raises Shah, secular leader after World War I,
  664. 43:19but when World War II starts,
  665. 43:21he did not drive out the Germans.
  666. 43:24And so Britain and the Soviet Union team up to do a coup
  667. 43:29to overthrow Shah Raizah.
  668. 43:32And they help a guy named Mazadek become the prime minister of Iran.
  669. 43:38And he's okay for a while, but then in the 1950s,
  670. 43:42he begins to side with the Soviet Union and the Tudor Communist Party and anti-Western.
  671. 43:49And so you have, he nationalizes the oil in Iran.
  672. 43:56What does that mean?
  673. 43:57It means he takes control of all of BP's oil wells, and the largest oil refinery in the world
  674. 44:03is in Iran, and it was BP's, and he takes it away. And so Britain suddenly has no oil.
  675. 44:09This pro-communist, Mazadek, took it. So Britain appeals to Eisenhower, and he approves in 1953
  676. 44:16Operation Ajax, where our CIA and Theodore Teddy Roosevelt's grandson, named Kermit Roosevelt,
  677. 44:25junior goes over there and he organizes a coup, finds all the different groups, pits them against
  678. 44:30each other and they create a problem and then they blame Mazadek and put him under house arrest
  679. 44:34and they help usher in to power. Raisa Palavi, the son of Shah Raisa and Raisa Palavi loves in
  680. 44:43America and he meets with Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford and he's again building the
  681. 44:52Cadillac Civil over there and if you see pictures of Iran in the 1970s, it's girls going to medical school and girls wearing dresses and
  682. 45:00Discos and dances and it looks exactly like Southern California and
  683. 45:05but the Soviets weren't gonna go away and so they go to these liberal college students and they start calling
  684. 45:14the Shaw
  685. 45:16Western capitalist and they want to push their socialism. And so they begin to organize protest
  686. 45:23against Reza Shah, Reza Palavi. And so now Jimmy Carter is the president and Jimmy Carter
  687. 45:32is convinced that the socialist students and organizing these protests and riots are going to
  688. 45:39throw out the Shah and put in a pro-Soviet leader. And so rather than coming to the Shah's defense,
  689. 45:45Jimi Carter starts talking with the Khomeini, Ayatollah Khomeini, who's exiled in France
  690. 45:51for his radical Shi'i trying to kill the Shah.
  691. 45:55He's kicked out of the country.
  692. 45:57And Ayatollah Khomeini tells Jimmy Carter that if Carter will let him become the new
  693. 46:04leader of Iran, that he will not be friends with the Soviets and leave relations with
  694. 46:09America the same as they are.
  695. 46:11And Jimmy Carter is so naive.
  696. 46:14He says, okay.
  697. 46:15And so he pressures the Shaw to leave the country in 1979.
  698. 46:20He tells our military not to help their military.
  699. 46:24The Ayatollah lands his plane, gets off, and then gathers all the pro-American generals,
  700. 46:30brings them to the top of a high school roof and kills them all, and then hunch down all
  701. 46:34the pro-American people in Iran.
  702. 46:37And then all those college students, he kills them.
  703. 46:40And they're like, oh, we helped you get in power.
  704. 46:43like, oh, yeah, now we're in power.
  705. 46:44We don't need you.
  706. 46:45And they kill them.
  707. 46:46So all those naive college students that are socialists,
  708. 46:48like, oh, we want to get rid of capitalism.
  709. 46:50They just set the stage for totalitarian dictatorship.
  710. 46:54And so then the Ayatollah starts Hezbollah in Lebanon.
  711. 47:00And what does Hezbollah do?
  712. 47:01Those people, they blow up the US Marine barracks.
  713. 47:04Killing 241 US Marines and Reagan's response was to leave Lebanon.
  714. 47:09and then they helped the Hamas that's attacking Israel,
  715. 47:13and they helped the Houthis in Yemen.
  716. 47:15And then they, within a month of the Ayah,
  717. 47:18I totally getting in, he broke every promise to Jimmy Carter
  718. 47:21and says death to America, that Israel's the little Satan,
  719. 47:25America's the big Satan, and I have to bring this part up.
  720. 47:29He is not just a Shiite, there's a version of Shiite called Twelver.
  721. 47:33What's that?
  722. 47:35So we mentioned Mohammed and his daughter, Fatima,
  723. 47:38There, Fatima Mary too, and then a son named Hussein.
  724. 47:40Well Hussein had a son before he died.
  725. 47:44And there were 12 male descendants of Muhammad.
  726. 47:47They call him Sharis, a blood descendant of Muhammad.
  727. 47:51And the last one disappears in the year 874 AD.
  728. 47:56And he was like five years old, disappears.
  729. 47:58Well the Shiite, the 12ers, think that this 12th male
  730. 48:02descendant of Muhammad is hiding in a cave
  731. 48:05for 1200 years.
  732. 48:07They call it oculation.
  733. 48:09They think he's hiding in a cave.
  734. 48:10And if the Ayatollah can create a world war,
  735. 48:15this 12th Māori is gonna come out of the cave
  736. 48:19and then their version of Christ,
  737. 48:21which is our version of the Antichrist,
  738. 48:23he'll come back and join together with this 12th Māori
  739. 48:27and kill all the Christians, kill all the Jews,
  740. 48:30kill the little Satan Israel, the big Satan America
  741. 48:33and set up a one world Islamic government called the Caliphate.
  742. 48:37And so where the communists have nuclear weapons,
  743. 48:39but they're not in a hurry to use them.
  744. 48:41The Ayatollah wants nuclear weapons
  745. 48:43because he wants to use them
  746. 48:45because he thinks if he can use them,
  747. 48:47if he can create a world war,
  748. 48:49it will bring this 12th imam out of the cave,
  749. 48:53bring back the Antichrist,
  750. 48:54and they can set up their one world Antichrist government
  751. 48:57called the caliphate.
  752. 48:59And so that's why it was urgent
  753. 49:01that Trump get rid of their nuclear capability
  754. 49:03because they literally want to use them.
  755. 49:06Yes.
  756. 49:06I wanted to have you want to explain all that history
  757. 49:10because you have post 9-11,
  758. 49:16George W. Bush saying Islam is a religion of peace
  759. 49:19and you have really not much conversation
  760. 49:22about the reality of the apocalyptic theological notions
  761. 49:28driving the Islamic regime.
  762. 49:30And I think there needs to be more conversation
  763. 49:33about that the American people need to be aware of that
  764. 49:36so that we won't be repeatedly naive
  765. 49:40and repeat some of the things that we've seen in history
  766. 49:43happening once again.
  767. 49:44I mean, listening to you right now,
  768. 49:45I'm thinking about the reactions on college campuses
  769. 49:48to October 7th and how we had college students here
  770. 49:52doing kind of some of the same things that were happening
  771. 49:54prior to the summer revolution of 1979.
  772. 49:57And so I'll leave the last word to you
  773. 50:00have about 30 seconds.
  774. 50:01What would you wanna leave us with, Bill?
  775. 50:04Well, the word Islam means submission to the will of Allah,
  776. 50:06a Muslim is one who has submitted,
  777. 50:08and they think there will be world peace
  778. 50:10when the whole world submits to the will of Allah.
  779. 50:12So to them, world peace means world Islam.
  780. 50:16Our definition of peace is different groups getting along.
  781. 50:18Their definition of world peace is world Islam.
  782. 50:20A moderate Muslim thinks the world's gonna submit later
  783. 50:23in the distant future, maybe even the end of the world,
  784. 50:25maybe even figurative, and they just are happy
  785. 50:27to live their lives and be friends with you and me.
  786. 50:30The fundamental ones think that it's supposed to happen now.
  787. 50:33The problem is, the fundamental ones are just as happy to kill them up.
  788. 50:39The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American
  789. 50:44Family Association or American Family Radio.

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