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Tom Homan was President Obama’s Executive Associate Director of Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) and is now President Trump’s “Border Czar.”

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0:00 - 15:00. Proverbs 18:17. Cross-examinations are part of jury trials for a reason. 15:00 - 31:00. Tom Homan was President Obama’s Executive Associate Director of Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) and is now President Trump’s “Border Czar.” 31:00 - 48:00. A New York jury finds doctors liable for malpractice in a lawsuit concerning a minor’s mutilation surgery. | Family Focus Weekend Feb 20-22, 2026 | 1-800-326-4543 ext. 345 To donate call : 877-616-2396 Video Clip Links Chloe Cole

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0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
0:03It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
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0:31Good evening everybody.
0:35Welcome to the Hamilton Corner.
0:36My name is Abraham Hamilton the third.
0:38I am grateful to be back in studio with you.
0:43Like lots of people all across our country.
0:48My family had some issues with the little storm of the the the
0:53wintery varieties.
0:55Thanks for everybody's okay and I'm not going to regale you with
0:58anything because there are people in the country have it far worse than my family and
1:02I suffered but just know we were right there with you.
1:07By God's grace we're back in studio and I'm ready to rock and roll with today's edition
1:11of the program.
1:13We have the corner contingent in studio as we are here daily.
1:19So as you know Abraham Hamilton the third is my name.
1:22I'm the host of this program.
1:24across from me we have my man a hundred grand Mr. Bobby,
1:28Hunter, Hunter, and in the screening room.
1:32Produce extraordinaire often imitated but never duplicated.
1:38Successfully that is.
1:39It's the real Jay Mac.
1:40Ladies and gentlemen we are ready to rock and roll with today's edition of the program.
1:45At this very moment many of you if not most of you are making your transition from your part-time
1:50jobs where you generate an income to your full-time jobs, where you cultivate an outcome.
1:55And as you do so, I want to remind you to do so with intentionality.
2:02Understanding the primacy that God places on family and allowing that, welcoming God's
2:08view on the family to inform, to govern, and to guide your engagement and my own engagement.
2:16I was talking to a brother over the weekend just explaining how it's vitally important vitally vitally
2:25vitally important for us to understand that much of the things that we're confronting
2:30societally they are the byproduct of things that are not happening in the homes you know I saw this
2:37horribly sad video of a young man high school student who somebody gave a platform and a microphone
2:48and cameras rolling to talk about things that are happening in Minnesota, decrying the ice
2:57protests. And I'm saying you see what's happening. I've been explaining people like in the Carson
3:04versus making case, even the Supreme Court acknowledged for the longest time the reason
3:07why they wanted this government, this publicly funded government indoctrination system. It's
3:14for values cultivation. It's values cultivation. And that's it for the longest people thought
3:22that it was about reading, writing and arithmetic. And I've said, the stated purpose has not been
3:27the functional purpose in reality. Because you see, trillions of dollars being expended,
3:33yet we consistently simultaneously see reading capacities diminishing, writing capacities
3:39diminishing, you know, cursive, what's that? Who cares that every founding document that
3:45exists was written and what it was it was typed it was typed with with aerial 10.5 no no 14 point
3:53no no it was typed in send serif no it was written in cursive at a minimum a a baseline capacity to
4:03read and write cursive is necessary for subsequent generations of americans to be able to read the
4:08founding documents for themselves it's absurd yet with the continued funding and yet the continued
4:17poor performance, do I need to go over all of the statistics of government education systems
4:23students who cannot read or are not literate?
4:28So you've asked, and well, why are we speaking out?
4:30Because they're making regressive activists.
4:33That's why.
4:36And we see that poor example, that manifesting itself now, where people don't have a capacity
4:44to evaluate circumstances, use discernment.
4:50It's just sheeple following the metronome of Gerbil Zink.
5:02But we have the opportunity to cut that off and to reverse it
5:08if we were welcome to the Lord to grab ahold of us
5:12and our families.
5:15We will never be able to out-politik
5:18out-Supremecord opinion, out-skotis oral argument
5:23outvote the deficiencies that persist in the home.
5:29We need a presence on all of these other fronts,
5:33but if we neglect the obligation to make disciples
5:36starting in our homes, we are going to continue
5:39nipping around the periphery.
5:42To the word of God we go, Proverbs chapter 18.
5:45Proverbs chapter 18 is where we're gonna begin.
5:50This is one of my, I guess I gotta stop saying,
5:54I have too many favors,
5:54That's my choice.
5:55Daddy, every one of the Scriptures is your favorite.
6:00Proverbs 18, I call it the case in chief text.
6:09Proverbs chapter 18 verse 17, that verse particularly is what I call the case in chief
6:13text.
6:17The verse states, the one who states his case first, seems right until the other comes and
6:28examines him. The one who states his case first seems right until the other comes and examines
6:38him. This is a case in chief text. This is a cross examination text. I'm going to explain
6:46something. Now the procedures in any trial proceeding. This isn't a civil trial or in
6:51a criminal trial in any trial when they're opening statements for the trial. The movement,
6:59Meaning the party that bears the burden of the burden of proof always goes first.
7:04In the criminal trial, that would be the prosecution.
7:06In a civil trial, that would be the plaintiff.
7:08The movement, the one who is asking the court to do something of matter first instance goes
7:14first.
7:15They make their opening statement first.
7:17They have to place what's called their case in chief.
7:21They have to put their case in chief on first.
7:23All right.
7:27the open statements, you move to the testimonial portions of the trial in which evidence is
7:32submitted.
7:33All right.
7:35So let's put this in a criminal context.
7:36You'll have the prosecution who has an obligation to offer their case in chief.
7:40When you are the attorney for the moving party offering your case in chief, this is where
7:46you have to put your witnesses on.
7:49You cannot offer leading, cannot use leading questions.
7:52That will be any questions in which the answer is implied in the question.
7:57You can't make an affirmative statement and then add a question at the end.
8:01You were there at 5 p.m.
8:03Weren't you?
8:04You are suggesting what a person was in the question.
8:06That's a leading question.
8:08All right.
8:08So you in your case in chief, you present what you believe is cogent evidence
8:13that will allow you to meet your burden of proof.
8:18If all that was necessary, an adversarial trial context would be for the moving
8:22party to present their case in chief, the trial would end right there.
8:28But in our American system of government, which is not perfect, but is better than anything
8:32else in the world, especially in the criminal context where we have our Fifth Amendment, where
8:38the charge party is presumed innocent, whereas in Europe and England, in particular, that's
8:42the opposite.
8:43Now, if you charge, you've got to prove your innocent.
8:46Here if you are accused of something, our law says, okay, you accuse me, prove it.
8:53And I don't have an obligation to say anything.
8:55In fact, if I believe what you have presented in your case in chief is insufficient, I can
9:00avail myself solely of the Fifth Amendment privilege against self-accrimination, and
9:04I don't have to say anything.
9:08And in the criminal context, you have to be willing to present to the jury your evidence
9:13and assert that I believe it meets the burden of proof that I have persuaded you jurors beyond
9:19reasonable doubt.
9:20Well, that doesn't always end the trial.
9:24does sometimes because of an accused party, my belief, man, your evidence is so weak, your
9:29case is so wack, I don't need to say anything.
9:33If however, an opposing party believes there's something that needs to be addressed, well,
9:39even before I get there, let me take a few steps back.
9:42When the case in chief is offered, the moving party is putting on his witnesses, its witnesses
9:48and its evidence, guess what the opposing party has, you have the opportunity to do with every
9:54single witnesses, witness that's presented. Our Constitution guarantees to an accused party
10:01the right to confront witnesses against them. So in the moving party, and again, in this criminal
10:07context, the prosecution puts on their case in chief and they're presenting their witnesses at trial,
10:11the opposing party has the privilege to cross examine those witnesses. I hear what you're saying,
10:19but I have some questions about what you're presenting as evidence that I want to examine.
10:24That's literally what the Scripture says.
10:26The one who presents his case first seems right.
10:30Now why is it that the one who presents their case first seemed right?
10:34Because the one who speaks first with no rebuttal, there's nothing to contradict what
10:39is offered.
10:42But the Scripture says the one who presents his case first, the one who presents his case
10:46first seems right until the other comes and examines him.
10:54So the moving party, again the criminal context of prosecution, presents their witnesses, the
10:58the defendant has the opportunity to cross-examine every single witness
11:06and validate their testimony if possible to present information that will call into question
11:12and credibility of those witnesses, to utilize whatever admitted evidence to show
11:19maybe this witness doesn't know what they're talking about.
11:22And with each witness, the opposing party gets that opportunity.
11:25Not only that, after the moving party's case in chief,
11:30The opposing party has an opportunity to offer what's called a
11:35rebuttal case.
11:38It's not something in the way it goes.
11:45Even before you get the rebuttal case, the moving part of puts on the witness,
11:48the opposing party cross examines the moving party has an opportunity to do
11:53what's called redirect examination, redirect your honor.
11:58And then you move on to the next witness to continue that way.
11:59Then the opposing party has an opportunity to put on their rebuttal case.
12:08And even then the moving party has an opportunity,
12:11if they view it necessary to offer additional information
12:18and evidence or witnesses in light of the rebuttal case
12:20that's offered depending on the scenario,
12:22depending on the jurisdiction,
12:23depending on certain things like that.
12:25Why am I laying all of this out for you?
12:27It's vitally important that when your goal is truth,
12:34that you refuse to be moved solely by whoever speaks
12:37the loudest or who speaks first.
12:41We often discuss in our family that just because you're loud,
12:44doesn't make you right. Just because you have the bully pulpit, it doesn't make you right.
12:50Just because you have a bunch of networks that are given the same thing is almost like they
12:54coordinated doesn't make them right. I've shared with you guys, my wife gets upset with
13:01me because I have a worldview. This is not a straight news show. I'm giving my opinion
13:07in addition to the information that is newsworthy. All right. But I endeavor to have an informed
13:13opinion and in an effort to have an informed opinion, I want to see counter arguments to
13:20my opinion. Whenever I would prep a case for trial, I would always prep a case for trial
13:26in view of how I would attempt to defeat my case because in order to have an informed opinion
13:34or when truth is the objective, truth can withstand scrutiny. Truth can withstand scrutiny, which
13:45This is why our founders valued the first amendment right to speak so much.
13:50So the antidote to bad speech, poor speech, horrendous speech is not censorship.
13:57The antidote is more speech.
14:04There are a lot of people stating their case first and stating their cases loudly.
14:12And there are others who because of the volume and the firstness of the case being stated,
14:19taken it as if it's true. So we're gonna do a little cross examination today. And I just
14:26want to talk about some factual things. That's it. Some factual things. Now let's see if there's
14:39any truth that can be ascertained as a result of a little bit of cross examination. You're
14:47listening to the Hamilton Corner. Glad to be back in studio. We'll be right back after this
14:52a discipleship minute with Joseph Parker.
15:03Love always gives, and we're all called to a lifestyle of love.
15:08One of, if not the most loving things you and I can do,
15:12is share the gospel with a world that desperately needs to hear it.
15:16So one of the ways whereby we live a life of love
15:19is living a life and a lifestyle of sharing the gospel as we go.
15:24So a part of walking in love, walking in the wisdom and the power of love,
15:29is knowing that yes, if you're a believer,
15:31then it's your responsibility to be a bright and bold witness
15:36for the Lord Jesus Christ.
15:37Sharing the Gospel as the Holy Spirit directs us,
15:40sharing the Gospel because that helps address
15:44the biggest need of the world.
15:46Every human being's greatest need
15:48is the need to know Jesus Christ.
15:50So one of the ways whereby we live a life of love
15:53is living a life and a lifestyle
15:55of sharing the Gospel as we go.
16:05Shining light into the darkness.
16:07This is the Hamilton Corner, an American family radio.
16:11Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton,
16:13the third year.
16:15Grateful to be able to announce once again, February 20th
16:18through the 22nd, we'll be in Simsboro, Louisiana.
16:21At Simsboro Baptist Church's Family Focus weekend,
16:26the event is no charge for your charge.
16:28However, you are asked to register to allow the church
16:32the opportunity to prepare for your attendance
16:35because they are planning to feed all attendees.
16:37It's going to be a thrilling time together.
16:40I believe with everything in me that this is a pivotal moment
16:44in our nation's history and the Lord is drawing people together
16:48to communicate the truth that he desires to be conveyed
16:50in this time period.
16:51And I believe this is a vital, vital, vital time of that occurring.
16:56You don't want to miss this.
16:57If you're in the area willing to come to the area,
16:59that is February 20th through the 22nd,
17:01first Baptist Sims Borough Church, I should have said, I'm sorry.
17:04133 Tiger Drive in Simsboro, Louisiana, 71275 in order to register.
17:10You need to go to fpcsimsborough.org, click on the event tab, and you'll see the family
17:15focus weekend, and you can register there.
17:18Remember, no charge for the event.
17:19They just want to know how many people are coming to anticipate those who will be there,
17:24looking forward to meeting you there.
17:27All right.
17:29There's so much that's happening, and so I'm going to try to do a little bit of catch-up
17:33today.
17:34Get to other stuff.
17:35I know about the Epstein file drop and you know, you got all kind of stuff.
17:39The people squirming in Fulton County, Georgia.
17:42Wait, I thought it was, I thought it was a perfect election.
17:45What's the problem?
17:46What's the fuss?
17:47I mean, if you ask me, hey, what is that on the shelf?
17:54And I know what I have on the shelf is not problematic.
17:57I'm not going to squirm because you ask me what's on the shelf.
18:00Now, of course, I want to make sure you have a legal request and all these kind of things.
18:04You know, I didn't title to know what's on my shelf, but if in this instance, there's a lawfully
18:10approved search warrant in subpoena for documents that you'd already been instructed to maintain
18:16for that of purposes.
18:18It's a problem.
18:21And then it's always funny to me, you know, because these things happen, you know, on an
18:24obscure Friday on December 17th of 2024, I believe that was a Friday.
18:29You can double check me.
18:30You might have been a Friday.
18:31I might be wrong.
18:3217, 2025, you know, as people are preparing for Christmas, all of a sudden, and in fact,
18:40I was out, I believe that day, but I made a note, say, huh.
18:46So the Fulton County admitted that they violated the rules in 2020 when they certified 315,000
18:55early votes that lacked poll worker signatures.
18:58Huh.
19:00And the county said we won't dispute these allegations.
19:02That was on December 17th, 2025, by the way.
19:05See, they thought they could slide that one by you, like a sandy Colfax slider, you know?
19:09Get it in.
19:10But we take notes.
19:11So until they get the warrant.
19:14Aha, aha.
19:15See, I'm saying that because if you're wondering how did the Department of Justice get the
19:20warrant, Fulton County acknowledged that they counted 315,000 votes illegally.
19:26Do you remember the margin of victory in Georgia?
19:29Proported victory, that is, for Mr. Ice Cream, man.
19:33It was a mere 11,779 votes.
19:37So if you illegally certified 315,000 votes,
19:39what are we saying people?
19:41Heh heh heh.
19:44I remember reading somewhere in the scripture,
19:45the Bible says that the wicked flee when no one pursues.
19:50We'll say it differently.
19:51If you're driving on an interstate and you're doing the speed limit
19:53and you happen to see a police car,
19:55usually most people won't necessarily be concerned.
19:59But if you're speeding,
20:00that's when the heart tends to stop being a little faster.
20:03Anyway, anyway, I'm getting beside myself.
20:06So, as many of you, and I've been talking about this, and it's just amazing to me just
20:16how much Bible we're saying we were walking in the studio, man, and these people have no
20:19regard for the American people.
20:22Just how absurd some of the things are that are done repeatedly, like you have video evidence
20:31of the photo testers in Minnesota, and I'm saying that because that's what they are.
20:36This is not an organic outcry of the people because ICE has been operating all over the
20:44country.
20:45Right now, ICE is operating in other states.
20:50Why are we having these things happen in Minnesota?
20:53And let's just, again, I'm going to do a little bit across the examination.
20:57So a lot of us are aware of Tom Hohman, for example, because Tom Hohman was elevated to
21:03be the director of ICE under President Trump.
21:07Trump described him as his border czar, right? But as President Trump, the first president,
21:15Tom Holman served in a capacity where he was responsible for, let me see, let's get this
21:23from a job description, shall we? Where he served in the capacity where he directed the
21:30enforcement and removal operations for ICE. Does anybody know the answer to that question?
21:40Well, no, brother Abe, this is not the first time.
21:45Oh, fun facts for everybody here.
21:49Did you know the way that President Trump learned
21:54about Tom Hohmann's capacity to operate in ICE?
21:59Did anybody know?
22:01You wanna know how Trump became aware of Tom Hohmann?
22:06This is what I'm here for.
22:07This is why you tune in.
22:08Cause I'll tell you.
22:12I feel like me, me, me, me.
22:14In 2013, President Barack Obama appointed Tom Holman as his title, guys, ready for it?
22:27The executive associate director of enforcement and removal operations for ICE.
22:37It was the ERO branch of ICE.
22:41What was Tom Holman's job?
22:43I'm so glad y'all asked me this question.
22:45Tom Holman's job under Barack Obama.
22:522013 is when Barack Obama appointed him to this position.
22:56Tom Holman's job in 2013 was to identify,
23:01arrest and deport illegal immigrants.
23:062013, 2013.
23:11I'm not saying you have to Jeff,
23:12but you could put up a picture if you wanted to.
23:13You don't have to, but you could if you wanted to.
23:16did you know
23:17that because of the stellar performance of tom homing under president obama
23:23that he was given an award
23:26by president not just any award
23:29president of our not just any award he was given in a trich i encourage everybody
23:33to go look this up
23:34he was a good he was given the presidential rank award by president obama
23:40which is the highest
23:42civil service honor
23:44that could be afforded in the united states
23:50Yeah, I'm gonna say that again real slow for the people all the way in the back.
23:53The Presidential Rank Award.
23:56Tom Holman received it in 2015.
24:00Tom Holman.
24:01You know the dude who was on TV all the time talking about?
24:05Same cat.
24:08Did you know, if you were asked this as a trivia question,
24:10who is responsible, and I'm gonna finish this line of question on Tom Holman,
24:14but who is responsible for the largest deportation operation in American history?
24:22We have some Japanese music, doo doo, times up.
24:33Who is Barack Hussein Obama?
24:35Dang, you would be absolutely right.
24:38Barack Hussein Obama.
24:44Barack, the most ever in American history.
24:52I'm gonna give a couple other things.
24:53So why did Barack Obama give Tom Homan
24:56the Presidential Rank Award?
25:00The award was given to Mr. Homan for quote,
25:02sustained extraordinary accomplishment.
25:07Mr. Holman was recognized for his effectiveness
25:11in immigration enforcement.
25:15Have you said that in a term?
25:16No.
25:16Barack Obama gave him the Presidential Rank Award
25:19because of how effective he was in deporting,
25:23I'm gonna read the drop description again.
25:26It's not on LinkedIn though.
25:29He was so effective in identifying, arresting,
25:33and deporting illegal aliens.
25:40Now I could be wrong here.
25:42Bobby, you may recall this.
25:43Jeff, you could help me out if you recall this.
25:44Do y'all remember anybody protesting in Minnesota when Barack Obama was was
25:49deporting almost the entire population of the state of Mississippi?
25:55Did the do you know the other minute in any protest?
25:59You know, the kids in cages, you know, you know, you know, who started that jam, right?
26:03AOC?
26:05What is it for him?
26:06It was before her.
26:07It's Barack Obama's cages.
26:10Now why am I presenting all of this?
26:15Are we witnessing objections to deportees?
26:17Well Abraham, and I like these questions, y'all.
26:20That's why the quarrels and damnations come up.
26:22Abraham, you don't understand, you see.
26:25President Obama was only focusing on criminal aliens.
26:29Okay, so we can play these games if you want.
26:33Entering the country illegally is a crime.
26:36If you enter the country illegally, and before you get to your assessment of the country,
26:39of your law degree assessment.
26:44Do you think the people into the country illegally
26:45are unaware that they've entered the country illegally?
26:49You think they don't know?
26:53You think they're unaware?
26:55Now even if you disagree with the idea
27:01that crossing the border is illegal,
27:05it really no matter what your opinion is of it
27:06because we have statues, that's the point.
27:09It doesn't matter your opinion about it.
27:11We have laws that say it's illegal to enter our country illegally
27:14Because we also have laws that say,
27:18for those who want to come to our country from other nations,
27:21here is how you do so.
27:23Okay.
27:25But A, you see, there were no protests under Obama,
27:28Barack Obama A, because he was focusing
27:30on criminal aliens.
27:32Oh, so is that the distinction you wanna roll with?
27:35Okay.
27:36Well come go with me for a moment, all right?
27:39If you want the deportation efforts to focus on
27:42criminal aliens, and let's be specific with our terms,
27:44You mean in addition to breaking our law to enter our country without authorization to
27:51enter our country?
27:53Those who commit additional crimes, once they've entered our country, those are the aliens you
27:58are comfortable with being deported.
28:01And the data would say that the American popular supports that one of the highest things that
28:07people agree on.
28:09Well, how then would you square that with the idea?
28:15There you know the coach Tim Waltz, Minnesota, the Minneapolis Mayor, Dick O'Brien, their
28:23sanctuary states and sanctuary cities who say that they will not allow ICE to enter their
28:30jails to remove illegal aliens who additionally committed crimes upon entering our country
28:37illegally and are incarcerated in either the prison or the jails.
28:45So which one is it?
28:46So you cool with deporting illegal aliens who commit additional crimes when they come
28:51to our country, but at the exact same time, you're supporting administrations that refuse
28:57to allow ICE access to the jails to the prisons to remove the illegal aliens.
29:03Now ask yourself the next question.
29:04If you are an ICE employee and you have been made responsible with removing illegal aliens
29:10and your focus is criminal illegal aliens, but the local state and municipality prohibits
29:15you access to the jails and to the prisons, where are you going to find the illegal aliens?
29:24Are y'all tracking with me? Where are you going to find them? Or let me say it differently,
29:29where then would you have to find them? Because you don't want to provoke a constitutional crisis,
29:35you don't want to provoke a scenario where you have federal agents standing crosswise from state
29:42and municipal law enforcement officers, then what are you going to do? You then have an
29:47an obligation based upon the scenario created by whom?
29:52That would be the governor of the sanctuary state
29:54and the mayor of the sanctuary city who prohibits you
29:57from executing your task with removing the criminal illegal
30:01aliens, those who have committed the additional crimes.
30:04Once they've entered our country illegally,
30:06you can't get them in the jail,
30:07so guess what you gotta go and get them?
30:11The same place Barack Obama had to go and get them.
30:17Guys, I'm not laughing because this is funny,
30:20because it's not funny.
30:21I'm laughing because it's unbelievable, unbelievable.
30:26So you have Don Lemon showing up
30:29with a professional camera crew
30:32and he's coordinating with local elected officials.
30:37We laid out for you, local elected officials
30:41and those campaigning for election.
30:44Yet they're kicking in in the country like,
30:47these are just organic protests
30:49and the people are rising up.
30:54You had the scenario.
30:56It was a gentleman's name, Paredi, Alex Predi.
31:02Oh, he's just a docile.
31:06I see you nurse who just, you know, who showed up a couple weeks prior at a full test and
31:15he's vandalizing, vandalizing government property and which by the way, if you spit upon a person
31:26that is considered an assault, that's a crime.
31:30That's a crime.
31:32upon a law enforcement officer is an additional crime.
31:36A salt upon a law enforcement officer that impedes the officers lawful discharge of his
31:41duties is an additional crime.
31:46And oh by the way, when he's committing these acts, vandalizing government property, kicking
31:51taillights out of vehicles, spitting on officers in their vehicles, he happens to have a firearm
31:55in his waistband and his waistband.
31:57But nevertheless in his waistband.
32:01So why then the concerted effort to try to present him is something other than what he
32:04is, which is, at a minimum, a person who seeks to agitate against ICE officers who also is
32:12known to carry firearms.
32:17Y'all know me.
32:18I grieve the loss of life.
32:20But the circumstance with Renee Goode, let's be honest, she calls that circumstance.
32:34This pretty fellow.
32:35And Lord, I don't know where his soul is, but his conduct sure has given me an indication
32:39of something.
32:41But why do the things keep happening?
32:43Why the protests?
32:44Why the theater with equipped with the company
32:49lights camera in action because it
32:52deceives the mindless masses.
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34:16Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner.
34:17Abraham Hamilton III here, why is it not common knowledge that Barack Obama awarded Tom Homan
34:25for his efforts to deport illegal aliens?
34:28Why?
34:31Probably for the very same reason that our culture, we understand Isaac Newton was a mathematician
34:37and a scientist and a physicist, but we don't know that he actually wrote too close to three
34:43times as much about theology than he did about sciences.
34:46We don't know that he explained that his scientific experiments were driven by what he
34:51discovered in scripture because there is a manner of deception that follows concealment,
35:02which is why it requires a knowledgeable cross-examiner to present these things.
35:07I was having a conversation with the person, they were going on and on and on and on and
35:10about icing.
35:11I was on and on and on and on and on and about icing and then I asked him some of the same
35:13questions I presented to you today.
35:15So did you realize that the guy who's, you know, the borders are and all of this?
35:20He's the same guy who Barack Obama wore it for doing the exact same, if not similar activities?
35:24Do you...
35:25What?
35:27Hey, that's not true.
35:28Please go and look it up.
35:30And then come back and tell me.
35:31Man, I didn't know that.
35:34How would that influence your opinion?
35:35Do you remember any protests when Obama was doing it?
35:37Well, hey, it was the criminal aliens.
35:39It's not the...
35:40Alright, alright, let's talk about this.
35:41Okay, well, if you want the criminal aliens, that's the question.
35:43If you want what you're describing to us,
35:45criminal aliens, which are those who've already violated
35:48our lost anti-country illegally,
35:51and then who have committed additional crimes,
35:54or those who've got visas, overstate the visas,
35:56whatever scenario that led to them being illegal,
35:58they committed a crime in addition
36:00to being in our country illegally.
36:02Where will those people be largely?
36:04Largely they will be in jails and prisons.
36:08If you want those aliens removed,
36:11would not you allow access to the jails and prisons?
36:17And it seems obvious.
36:18Or if you did not want those aliens removed from the country, what would you do?
36:23I wouldn't give access to the jails and prisons.
36:26So if you would have a governor and a mayor, for example, who refuses to give ICE access
36:30to the jails and prisons to remove illegal aliens who commit additional crimes upon being
36:35in our country illegally, what would be the only thing you can conclude?
36:39Well, that governor and that mayor wants to easily use aliens to stay here.
36:45Yeah.
36:46Yeah.
36:48Uh-huh.
36:50And it's just frustrating because the reason why these people do these things over and over again
36:56is simply because it's effective.
36:58Which is why it's important for us to be those cross-examiners. I see what they're saying, but let me look into this.
37:08What is this really? What is this really about? What's really going on here?
37:14Alright, something else I want to address. Trial happened in New York and
37:24the...
37:26How did they describe this court?
37:28Is the yes, the New York Supreme Court at Westchester County.
37:31Now that is a district court in the state court system in New York.
37:35This case has to do with a young lady whose name was Isabelle.
37:40She ultimately changed her name several times, ultimately landing on the name Fox Varian because
37:46she as a 16 year old girl made the decision that she was transgendered.
37:53She had the assistance of two doctors in particular.
37:58One, Kenneth Einhorn, who was a psychologist, and two, the surgeon, Dr. Simon Chin.
38:09Kenneth Einhorn, counseled in ultimately Simon Chin, executed the mastectomy surgery, double
38:17mastectomy, inflicted this upon a 16-year-old girl.
38:26The girl's mom, let me get to that.
38:34The girl's mom, Claire Deacon, testified during the trial that she was against the surgery,
38:41but she consented to it out of fear that her daughter would commit suicide if she did not
38:47get the surgery.
38:49And the psychologist Kenneth Einhorn increased mom's fear that if she did not consent to this
38:58little girl, this little girl's permanent alteration of her body in the name of gender
39:06insanity that it was a foregone conclusion that her daughter would kill herself.
39:13All right.
39:16The case was tried in New York.
39:19It was a three week trial and at the conclusion of the trial, the New York jury awarded the
39:34young lady who is now 22 years old, awarded her $2 million in total.
39:42$2 million in damages, $1.6 million for a past and future pain and suffering, as well as
39:48another $400,000 for future medical expenses.
39:55Following the announcement of the verdict, Chloe Cole, who has been just rock solid on
40:01this issue because she too underwent mastectomy as a minor who came to regret that. She had
40:11some comments concerning this gerry verdict. Listen to and watch clip number two, clip
40:15two go. Frankly that I think that two million dollars
40:19is not nearly enough to compensate for the damages that these doctors have done to my generation.
40:24I think that it would only be right if next every single doctor, every single clinic has
40:28been involved in this as their wallets completely drained, they're all thrown in prison with the
40:33key thrown out.
40:34But I think that $2 million, this especially in a blue state like New York, this bodes well
40:39for the rest of the 28 cases, including my own of all the children who have been harmed
40:43and are seeking legal justice.
40:46Your dog going to skip you?
40:47Open the floor.
40:49Your dog going to skip you?
40:51So as you heard, there are additional 28 cases that are pending that are just like this all
40:54over the country.
40:56And you know, there's a reality.
40:58You know, I had a basketball coach who used to say,
41:00pain stimulates the brain.
41:04Pain stimulates the brain.
41:07You have people who won't reason,
41:09who won't deal with reason and logic
41:11and appeals to truth, the truth of scripture,
41:14but guess what they'll respond to?
41:17That pocketbook.
41:19They'll respond to, you know,
41:22they'll malpractice insurance, skyrocketing.
41:25They'll respond to, and listen,
41:27And you can't find any insurance companies that will provide malpractice insurance for
41:32you because word on the screen is that you'll counsel a minor to destroy themselves.
41:39If it pays well, you're an insurance risk, my boy.
41:43Well, my girl, whatever the case may be.
41:45Now when you get into the facts of this case, man, it's heartbreaking.
41:48It's heartbreaking.
41:51Some of it, for many of you who've been following this issue, it may be predictable.
41:56The other things and the things that I'm talking about in particular in addition to the pain
42:00and the trauma and the toil of this little girl and her confusion as a child, but also
42:12when you consider just, there's a notion in law concerning medical operations called the
42:19reasonable standard of care.
42:22Is this a reasonable standard of care?
42:25So according to the testimony, this is wild to consider this, this young lady had expressed
42:42concerns prior to consulting with the psychologist who made the referral to the surgeon, by the
42:49way.
42:50So this little girl was seeing the psychologist first, Kenneth Einhorn.
42:55Horne is the one who made the referral. But prior to and contemporaneous to this little
43:01girl seeing the psychologist Kenneth Einhorn, she was also going to a local pride center
43:09called Albany Pride Center where she would tell people there she was having second thoughts
43:15about whether or not she was transgender, whether or not she was confused. The people
43:20at the center would say that Isabelle, who became Fox Varian, would tell them, quote,
43:29she felt pressure to decide on a male identity or female identity. She felt pressure from
43:34friends and from family and from culture. And she continued to question her identity, but
43:42she was afraid that if she went back on attempting to identify herself as a boy, that she would
43:47lose credibility."
43:49End quote.
43:50She was concerned that she would lose credibility with her own mother.
43:56Now you want to talk about upsetting both of these medical professionals had to testify that
44:09Kenneth Einhorn wrote his referral to Dr. Simon Chin and he never had a conversation about this
44:17girl with Dr. Simon Chin.
44:20Not one conversation.
44:23Not one.
44:25He had to testify, Kenneth Inhorn had to testify.
44:29His referral letters actually included false information and inaccuracies about this girl.
44:38Yet, you still going to chop off her healthy breast tissue?
44:46Guys, this is just wild.
44:49And in addition to what I just told you, Inhorn the psychologist never had any conversations
44:57from anybody from the Pride Center.
45:00So the girl told him about it.
45:03He testified in trial, quote, that he might have never written the referral letter had
45:08he known that the little girl was telling other people she was second guessing, transitioning
45:15to be a boy.
45:22The surgeon, Dr. Simon Chin, testified at trial that had he known the little girl was
45:27unsure of her gender identity, he would not have performed the surgery.
45:32So you don't think before you're going to cut off some little girl's healthy breast tissue
45:37that you need to ask her whether or not she's certain that she want to do this?
45:40You don't think that's important?
45:47Why am I bringing this up?
45:53Because I want you to see that when people like me are talking about these things, hey
45:56guys these things are happening, these mental health professionals make these referrals, they're
45:59not doing their due diligence, they don't really know what's going on with the child,
46:02they have this unstable child, they don't care about the child enough, they're not thinking
46:05about the child, they're thinking about their political objectives, they're thinking about
46:07political preferences, they're thinking about the money they're going to make, they're not
46:10thinking about the child, what about the child, what about the child?
46:13They ain't thinking about that.
46:16So now it takes a jury trial, which most of you may not know, but before you ever get to
46:24a civil jury trial, you're going to have lots of negotiations about a settlement.
46:32So it's when the settlement conversations break down that you actually end up going to trial.
46:39So it takes for these medical professionals to be held accountable in a trial to expose,
46:46well, yeah, I probably wouldn't have cut off the child's healthy tissue had I known she
46:52wasn't sure she wanted this, which brings the whole thing to the forefront, doesn't it?
46:58Doesn't it?
47:01Because the psychologist, this is the key, guys.
47:03The psychologist and the surgeon's attorney argued that trial.
47:08I mean, this is unbelievable.
47:10The psychologist and the surgeon's attorneys argue that trial, well, the little girl, she
47:15didn't express regret for her surgery until years later.
47:21Was the translation of that aide?
47:23She wasn't feeling bad about it until much later.
47:28Is that not the point we've been saying all along?
47:32Is that not the reason why Tennessee enacted a law to say you can't cut off the chest tissue
47:37of a child?
47:41Has anybody ever experienced a child?
47:46Y'all know I got six of them.
47:47I got two teenagers now.
47:51I got a 13 year old daughter.
47:54Y'all want to ask me off, do my daughter changes her mind?
48:00And my daughter ain't confused about her identity.
48:04Yet we're going to bind ourselves in this ridiculously stupid way.
48:08Remember I told you, send makes you stupid?
48:11We know 16 year olds, 15 year olds, 14 year olds, do all kinds of things and change their
48:17minds on a regular basis. But on something like this, well she says she feels like a boy,
48:23so we're going to go ahead and cut the dress off. We don't do that in any other area. So
48:34in a culture where it seems like there's been slap side ahead with a stupid stick, you won't
48:42listen to logic, you won't listen to reason, you won't submit to the truth of God's word,
48:46I guess we got to hit you where it hurts you when you really worship in your pockets. And
48:54make no mistake about it.
48:56That will make this all change in a hurry, in a hurry.
49:04Don't be surprised if these other 28 cases,
49:06they don't see the light of the day concerning trials,
49:08because guess what's gonna happen?
49:09Those insurance companies gonna be behind the scenes
49:12saying, listen here, we gonna go ahead
49:14on and settle this right now,
49:16because there's gonna be momentum built by these verdicts,
49:20and this girl got awarded $2 million in New York.
49:24You think that amount with the jury's is gonna go down,
49:27is going to go up. It's sad to say that it takes this, but we've gotten to this place.
49:33That's what it's going to have to take. But I pray that the Lord opens our eyes before
49:37the foolishness governs in total.
49:41The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American
49:46Family Association or American Family Radio.

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