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0:00 - 15:00. 2 Peter 1:12-15. God’s establishments endure beyond our temporal lifespans. 15:00 - 31:00. It’s National Collection Week, now through November 24th, for Operation Christmas Child. 31:00 - 48:00. Jenna Ellis, host of “Jenna Ellis in the Morning,” returns to “The Corner” to explain The Future of Conservatism Isn’t Behind Us. It’s Above Us. | 1-800-326-4543 ext. 345 To donate call : 877-616-2396

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0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
0:03It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
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0:32Good evening, everyone.
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0:52ladies and gentlemen, and we are ready to rock and roll
0:54with today's edition of the program
0:57to get this work week kicked off.
0:59We are excited to be with you.
1:01We are planning a few remote broadcasts this week.
1:05I voter guide is having a conference
1:08on the Patriot Academy campus this week.
1:11Rick Green, our colleague here is hosting
1:16the I voter guide and planning the broadcast
1:18from there later this week.
1:19So it's gonna be an exciting week of programming
1:22and excited to confer with you all,
1:26share information and most importantly to encourage you to
1:29continue to fight the good fight of faith at this very moment.
1:33Many of you, if not most of you are making your transition from
1:36your part time jobs where you generate an income to your full
1:40time jobs where you cultivate an outcome. And as you do so, I want
1:42to remind you to do so with intentionality, I will continue
1:47to stress this. Because the story of America secularization has
1:52not been the effective evangelistic circuit writing of the
1:56Atheists, no, no, it has been, unfortunately, the phenomenon articulating the Colossians
2:06too, in that the old deluder has been able to infiltrate the homes and ultimately the
2:15local assemblies and to cultivate a certain affinity for worldliness that rivaled the
2:22the truth of Christ and over the course of time, because discipleship is a constant, which simply
2:29means it's going to happen. The only question is who is going to be the discipler and in which
2:35direction will the discipleship occur? Jesus told us the student when fully trained, he will be like
2:41his teacher. And much of what is transpired in our country, the spirit of the age has infiltrated
2:50at the family level in many instances and ultimately into the local assembly to kind of twist following the way of Christ into something that is foreign.
3:05And over time, as a proverb warned a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, our nation went from Mr. Gorbachev tear down that wall to New York City's Islamianist mayor,
3:23which increasingly large contingents of younger people,
3:29who at least by name would say they prefer socialism,
3:35which of course the illogical underpinnings of socialism
3:37is atheism.
3:39And as Marx posited, socialism is simply
3:43and a step en route to full on communism.
3:47How does that happen?
3:50That's how it happens.
3:52But by God's grace, we have the wherewithal to recognize
3:56as transpired and turned the tide.
4:00And thanks be to God that he is still in the business of using crickets sticks to paint
4:06straight lines.
4:08What began as a small movement in Israel grew to the place to where these people have shaken
4:19up the entire world have now come here.
4:22And it's not over until God says it's over.
4:27that he has determined and articulated in his word that he makes himself known through his
4:32people. Hence my encouragement to you. What goes on in your house is far more important
4:40than what goes on in the White House. We can, if we will, what do I mean by that? We can
4:48see the Lord's hand and turn in the tide. If we will obey what he's commanded, you and
4:53I individually, instead of looking over there, I said, what they're not doing with somebody
4:58is not doing, let's look at ourselves and see what has God required of me. And am I being faithful in
5:05what God has required of me? At this very moment, many of you have not most of you, as I mentioned,
5:10you're making your transition from part-time work to full-time. Let's do it with intentionality.
5:16Let's be about our Father's business. To the Word of God we go. 2 Peter chapter 1 again.
5:22I want to go back to 2 Peter chapter 1 in this conversation here from the Lord's Word is going
5:29to frame and shape the remainder of the program. In 2 Peter chapter 1 verses 12 through 15,
5:38Peter writes and is keenly aware that the time of his, the expiration of his natural life
5:45is at hand and not just expiration. He ultimately is martyred under Nero. But he says this,
5:502 Peter chapter 1 verse 12, therefore I will always be ready to remind you of these things
5:54things, even though you already know them, and have been established in the truth, which
6:03is present with you.
6:05I consider it right as long as I am in this earthly dwelling to stir you up by way of reminder,
6:14knowing that the laying aside of my earthly dwelling is imminent.
6:19As also our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me, and I will also be diligent that at
6:26And any time after my departure, you will be able to call these things to mind.
6:32I pointed out before from this text that Peter was keenly aware that the time of his demise
6:38was near.
6:39I mean, he said it plainly in verse 14, knowing that the laying aside of my earthly dwelling
6:43is imminent.
6:44It's imminent.
6:45It's here.
6:46I'm about to be out, y'all.
6:47That's what Peter is saying.
6:49The time of my earthly engagement as a servant of the Lord Jesus Christ is coming to an end.
6:56I'm going to use the remainder of my time that God has given me here. I'm going to diligently use that
7:06so that you will be able to thrive in what God has called you to, the life of Christ following,
7:13even after my departure. The point I want to convey to you now is that the principles that are
7:23articulated to the Christ follower, they exceed the span, they
7:30exceed one's temporal lifespan. They exceed one's temporal
7:35lifespan. The principles and the commands of Jesus to its
7:41offspring, they are anchored in eternity. I've gone through
7:48details before explaining how the revelation concerning this,
7:54this inalienable right phenomenon is a revelation that flowed from the idea that mankind is made
8:01in the image of God. The things that this is where, and you've heard me say this before,
8:07we need to make a decision whether or not we're going to be partisans or we're going to be Christians
8:11because if partisans are the affinity that the partisans will inevitably stray away
8:18from biblical truth. Inevitably, we'll stray away from biblical truth. But if it is Christ over
8:26everything, you don't have to worry about you straying anywhere because you're anchored in principles
8:31and truth that transcends your temporal lifespan. I've shared with you all my testimony in regards to
8:39civic engagement and things of that nature, that I had no clue what conservatism was or what it meant
8:45meant to be a part of him and all that is what I knew,
8:47is that Jesus saved me.
8:48That's what I knew.
8:50And as I studied the scripture,
8:52there were certain things that Jesus required in scripture.
8:54For example, the sanctity of human life
8:56was not a political talking point that I arrived at.
9:00You know, the Lord gripped me by the truth of his word,
9:02by the power of his spirit concerning the fact
9:04that he is the author of life.
9:07That when you have passages like Malachi,
9:09I'm sorry, Psalm 139 in Jeremiah,
9:16when the Lord talks about, and so I'm wondering,
9:19knowing all of your days before one came to fruition,
9:23Genesis one, Genesis two, man con being made
9:28in the image of God, seeing how God treats life
9:32and its value and how he responds to those
9:35who would take innocent life.
9:38That came from biblical conviction.
9:39I never saw a political debate on this.
9:44This is what the Lord gripped me by,
9:46respecting people and being remained in violent in their property.
9:52It flowed from the reality that all good and perfect gives flow from the Father of
9:55lights that when man has anything, it's only been afforded to him as a steward placed
10:01in their stewardship by God Almighty.
10:05And the reality of not only you shall not steal being a sin, but the Lord ups the
10:11ante say, you shall not even covet in the in the legal context.
10:16That is an in co hate crime and in co hates and, but that flows from the character
10:20and the person of God.
10:23That's not some, that I didn't arrive at that conclusion
10:26from some, you know, white paper from some think tank,
10:33you know, understand in the right functioning
10:36of government even, recognizing that government
10:39is not merely the innovation of man's mind,
10:42that government comes from God, which reveals the reality
10:46that there's a biblical anchor for legitimate government
10:50and there is an illegitimate government.
10:52That is the idea from which our declaration articulated
10:58that government exists to serve the ends
11:01to protect to the person made in God's image,
11:06those rights that are inalienable,
11:08that government doesn't bequeath rights to people,
11:10they protect God given pre-political rights.
11:15That, I didn't get that from any white paper.
11:18So my point in saying these things
11:22is that a part of the challenge in this moment
11:24I don't know if you noticed yet, but, um,
11:29there's a bit of that dare I say, um,
11:33an identity crisis going on, especially right now,
11:38amongst those who profess to be, you know, participants in the GOP.
11:44What does it really mean?
11:47This is one of the major reasons why I often describe my, um,
11:51position as being more of a constitutionalist simply put because they've been
11:56people saying and doing things in an amosocall conservatism that I remotely
11:59close to being conservative. You know, I'm not going to go on a big deal about this now,
12:06but the government shutdown boil came right down to the reality of Obamacare. Well, why
12:11didn't Republicans, when they had majority repeal Obamacare, we wouldn't even have to
12:14have this issue because Republican will be in the garbage dump. But if you recall, there
12:20were Republicans that kept Obamacare from being repealed. Is that conservative? You
12:28know, and the point of this is not to spend a whole lot of time highlighting the various
12:34iterations of partisanship, but to reorient us to the fact that, wait a minute, we should
12:38seek to anchor our positions for engagement on notions that are endure that are durable,
12:47that are eternal. That is why I would argue that we've enjoyed the longest standard republic
12:55in the history of the world, because that republic has been founded upon principles that
13:00are eternal. They're not subject to the temporal, fickle nature of the ever-changing winds of a
13:07perpetually confused society. It's one of the major reasons why our founders established
13:14the constitutional public because it was an anticipation of man's fickle nature. Say, even
13:19when man gets blown to and fro, that there was a transcendent objective standard that aids
13:26doesn't know on wait, murder is murder because it is and always will be because God has established
13:32it as such. When Peter is explaining this, the time of my temporal dwelling, as he says
13:38in the verse 14, my earthly dwelling, the time of me laying aside, my earthly dwelling
13:43is imminent. And he is more specific as also our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me.
13:49I will be, I will also be diligent that at any time after my departure, you will be able
13:56to call these things to mind.
14:02With all of the uncertainty of this moment brothers and sisters, we have the opportunity
14:07to root our positions in the transcendent, unchanging truth of God's Word and the principles from
14:16God's Holy Word will drive our outward facing public facing engagement and enable us to
14:28advocate for mankind to embrace the only sound source.
14:33For us to enjoy what the scripture has revealed
14:35is available to us, and that is through God's holy word.
14:39This is one of the major reasons why I firmly object to it
14:43and resist efforts to try to recast positions
14:48in view of the current cultural climate.
15:00A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker,
15:03Proverbs 15 verse 1.
15:06A soft word turns away wrath,
15:09but a harsh word stirs up anger.
15:12Proverbs 16 verse 24.
15:14Gracious words are like a honeycomb.
15:17Sweetness to the soul and health to the body.
15:21Words are powerful.
15:23Our words can do things far beyond what we seem to realize.
15:27Words can make someone's day
15:29and words can ruin someone's day.
15:32words can give people hope and words can help people feel hopeless.
15:37As the scripture says in Proverbs chapter 18 verse 21,
15:41Death and life are in the power of the tongue.
15:44Those who love it will eat its fruits.
15:47We are wise to pray the prayer found in Psalm 141 verse 3.
15:52Set a guard, O Lord, over my mouth.
15:54Keep watch over the door of my lips.
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17:00Shining light into the darkness, this is the Hamilton Corner, an American family radio.
17:11Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton III.
17:15Here I am delighted to have my next guest on the program because many of you may know, some
17:20of you may not be aware.
17:22Operation Christmas Child's National Collection Week is underway.
17:27continues now all the way through to November 24th.
17:30And my guest is one of the representatives of Operation
17:33Christmas Child, none other than Miss Lita Geed.
17:36Miss Geed, thank you for joining me here on the Hamilton
17:39Corner on American Family Radio.
17:41It's a pleasure for to join you tonight.
17:44Oh, the pleasure is absolutely mine.
17:46And I am confident it is our listeners and viewers as well.
17:50Would you just share a little bit of your background?
17:51I know that you are from Cambodia originally.
17:55Would you share a little bit of your background
17:57and how you've encountered Operation Christmas Child
17:59ultimately in your own life?
18:01Sure, thank you.
18:03So my name is Lida Gitt,
18:05and I'm originally a shoe buck recipient,
18:08come from Cambodia.
18:10And I would like to share a little bit of my childhood.
18:15Before I received the shoe buck gift,
18:18when I was a kid, everyone in Cambodia was poor
18:21because they had been a war, the genocide.
18:24And I was hard, it was hard to find food,
18:27was hard to find a place to live and not every child could go to school. And as a child, I
18:33had no toy to play with it. And my dad was hardly ever around. And so my mom had to work
18:39so hard just for food. And there was no money for nice clothes or even by toys. And in fact,
18:47I never owned a pair of shoes and only a rubber flip-flop. And when I was around four years
18:55So, usually my mother took me to work with her,
18:59but one day she took, she left me home alone
19:03and that day I got kidnapped and I was so too a brothel.
19:07Child trafficking was a big problem at that time
19:10and I was only four, so I was so scared and terrified.
19:14And but fortunately I got rescue
19:19from a Cambodian Christian couple
19:22and they told me back to my mother on the same day,
19:25It was a miracle.
19:26And later on in life,
19:30I hardly ever saw my father,
19:32and all I know about him is that he was a gambler
19:34and womanizer, and he never took the responsibility
19:38over my mom and I, and he even gambled away our house.
19:42And so both of us had no place to leave.
19:44We were homeless, hopeless and loveless.
19:47And would you tell me, how would you respond
19:51and handle all this at a young age?
19:54And I, it was soon clear that I, my single mother
19:59could not protect and provide for me at the same time.
20:03So I was sent to leave with my uncle family
20:05and where he become like a true father to me.
20:08And I'm grateful to him for taking me
20:11into his Christian family.
20:13And he's a kind-hearted man.
20:15He took the responsibility for me.
20:17He provide for my basic needs,
20:20allowed me to go to school
20:21and took me to church every Sunday with the family
20:26where as soon it's become my favorite place to be at.
20:30And so my life at that time,
20:34if you can imagine it's like a dark cloud
20:36and I was not a happy child,
20:38I thought that I was not so special.
20:42I don't feel somebody, anyone can't for me
20:47me and I felt like I'm not even exist. So I always wonder where is the true love and why
21:02my life is like there's no color in my life's only dark and gray color. And one of the
21:10a favorite hobby that I used to do when I was a child.
21:15When I went to church, it's doing coloring.
21:18But when you go to church and do the coloring,
21:21you have to leave the stuff there.
21:23You cannot, you cannot, can never take it home.
21:27And that was it.
21:28And so I always love to draw in color,
21:31but I never get to own an art supply.
21:36So one day when I went to church,
21:38I was invited to check for kids' events with my cousins.
21:41And when I was in the room, there was a lot of kids.
21:46And then I noticed that there was a lot of boxes
21:50coupled with white cloths, but I can see the sparkly
21:56color paper wrapping around that boxes.
21:59It's just so, I was so curious what was inside it.
22:03How old were you at this point?
22:05So that's when I was around 12 years old.
22:10Okay.
22:11Yeah.
22:12So that I've been...
22:13That's interesting.
22:14Yes.
22:15So, yes.
22:16So when I was around 12 when I joined these kids, it went.
22:21And at the end of the program, after we hear the gospel presentation and all these stuff,
22:27they told our people going to receive a shoe buck gift.
22:31And I could not believe with my own eye that I was going to receive my very first gift ever
22:39from Operation Christmas Child.
22:41It brought tears to my eyes.
22:43They handed me my very own shoe bar gift.
22:46I remember it was a Robbie colorful paper.
22:49It was heavy.
22:51And the one thing, the first thing that caught my attention, it was the smell of the shoe
22:57bar.
22:58I did not know what you guys put in there.
23:00But even a toad brides also smells so good.
23:04And I remember I received school supplies, hygiene items, and like a toy, a doll, a
23:12jumbro.
23:13But one thing that stood out to me the most, it was a color, a very good quality color pencil.
23:23And you know, I told you that I all would love to draw, but I never get to own one.
23:30And so, having my very own ass supply inside the shoe bar, it made me feel careful and special.
23:38It was the moment that I realized that God is real and He came for me.
23:42And I was wondering where the shoe bar came from and who gave it to me.
23:46And when I asked, I was told that it came from people who love God.
23:51And I was amazed that someone who did not know me live across the world from me who
23:56cared enough to practice shoe bar.
23:58for me. I wanted school supply. I wanted a olive pencil and it was, they were there inside
24:06my shoe bar that made me felt that there's somebody out there who loved God and then I
24:13can receive God, tangible love that I can touch that I can feel and I can smell the love.
24:20I call a foreign smell, a role model, love that I can feel it.
24:27And so this show brought, it's really changed my life.
24:32It brought the color into my life layer on.
24:36And it was the moment that I realized that God is real and he cared for me.
24:41So, this, you know, even though life will feel with so much pains and many hardships,
24:50but I can clearly see Scott's hand protect for me over again and again.
24:55And the show about give was one of those seeds that got planted in my heart to remind
25:00me that I am not forgotten.
25:02I struggle to forgive those who hurt me, especially the one who was supposed to care for me like
25:09my own parent. But then I let her I learn in Isaiah 49 15 said, can a mother forget the baby at her
25:17breath and have no compassion to a child she has born, though she may forget, I will never forget
25:25you. And this scripture is reminded me that I have not forgotten God used many situations in my life
25:33to remind me that I am not forgotten.
25:36Amen.
25:37And the show about give,
25:39I planted seed in my heart
25:41and to experience God's tangible love.
25:45And because of experiencing this love, God's love for me,
25:49I learned this important life lesson
25:52is to forgive the whole hurt me,
25:54just ask Christ for giving my sin.
25:57Now let me ask you this,
25:58because I know you eventually become a teacher
26:01at the greatest journey.
26:02How did you accomplish your faith in Christ Jesus for salvation?
26:06Yes. So after I received my shoe bag, give a few year letter, I decided to put my faith in Christ.
26:13And I became so passionate about children ministry.
26:17And I got involved with that because of involving with the children ministry, I got to,
26:24I got the opportunity to reconnect it with our present Christmas child again.
26:28And then I had the opportunity to distribute shoeboxes to other children myself.
26:34Wow.
26:34And yeah, it was incredible being on the other side of the shoebox and witness the joys on
26:39the children faces just as I felt when I received mine.
26:43And also, yes, God told me to be more involved with the office in Christmas shop and by becoming
26:49the great best-year teacher.
26:51And this is a 12 discipleship program,
26:55offer to children after they receive the Shubak gift.
27:00We invite them back and have the discipleship program
27:03together with us.
27:05And I just want to tell you, I witnessed the impact
27:08of the gospel in the life of children.
27:12Not only as they heard the gospel before they received
27:14the Shubak gift, but as we went through
27:16the discipleship program together.
27:19And today, many of them I taught and now do one teaching
27:23and serving other children themselves.
27:26So the shoe box give Israeli an open door for evangelism,
27:31discipleship and multiplication.
27:34That is fantastic.
27:36And for those who may not be aware,
27:38as Ms. Gee shared, the greatest journey is a program
27:43that accompanies the Operation Christmas Child Shoe Box gift
27:46because each child that receives the shoebox gift
27:50is invited to participate in the greatest journey.
27:53And I wanna ask you, Lita.
27:56Yes.
27:57And you described it a little bit.
27:59Can you just expound a little bit more
28:01of how it was for you after having received the shoebox
28:04such an early age, after having suffered?
28:09I mean, I know you only,
28:10you didn't even hit the tip of the iceberg
28:11and the things that you suffered.
28:13But to be on the other side, packing the shoeboxes
28:17and then teaching the greatest journey
28:20for children who receive gifts, shoebox gifts,
28:23just as you received.
28:26How would I feel?
28:28Yeah, how did it feel for you to be the one packing
28:30those shoeboxes?
28:31Oh, I mean, it was incredible.
28:34I cannot, when I received my shoebox gift,
28:36I never imagined that one day I would be also giving
28:40shoeboxes to other children.
28:41And now that I am America, I, myself and my family, are packing shoebox in force.
28:47Incredible.
28:48Being on the other side of the shoebox and, you know, it just made me feel that.
28:56And looking back, I can clearly see God's hand as he was guiding me through in a way that I could be here today.
29:03and to practice your body's children and then also to witness the impact of the eternal impact
29:14in that simple shoe box you can make the transformation in the children's lives around the world.
29:22You never know that the shoe box, that you pack can make the eternal impact in the life of the
29:27children around the world. You mentioned that you went through the struggle of
29:33learning to forgive those who hurt you and including, you know, your parents.
29:40My parents.
29:41Yeah.
29:42How did the shoebox gift relate to the love of Christ being revealed to you and then how
29:47did that impact your ability to grow to the point where you could forgive?
29:51Yeah.
29:52So I mentioned I struggle to forgive.
29:56Don't hurt me.
29:58I mean, not just my own parent, there were so many other people who hurt me and wrong me.
30:05And forgive, forgive someone who wrong, I wrongers and embarrassers or hurters. It's not easy.
30:12And sometimes it sounds impossible. But then after receiving this shoe bag,
30:17like I said, it's one of those seeds that got already planted in my heart to show me that I'm
30:24not forgotten and that he's care for me and I experience his love and that I learned that
30:31God love us so much that he said he beloved son to die on the cross for me and that I am a sinful
30:41person and God can forgive me so why I cannot forgive other people and so it's with this it's
30:51really changed my life to help me to really
30:57transform my life that I God can forgive me so I also can forgive. I mean
31:07forgiving someone is hard. I and then God called us to forgive not just one in
31:13Matthew 1822 Jesus said to forgive 70 times seven right that's me he asked us to
31:20will give again and again up until today my life hasn't always been easy. But then my
31:26country felt me, my family felt me. I didn't have a choice where I was born into. I was
31:32born into a poor and broken family. But I can still choose Jesus because he has seen me,
31:40he has chosen me. And before I was born, I was in my mother's, well, he already know my
31:46name. And so, but when I, when it's hard to forgive, I ask, I look up to Christ and I ask him for the
31:58strength to do so for others. And that is how I can moving forward and I practice this forgiveness
32:06again and again.
32:08And it's so profound. I mean, you're sharing something that really is unfathomable for many
32:12people listening and watching right now because to be sold to a brothel at four years old.
32:17I mean, this is amazing, but packing these shoeboxes, praying over them, that's something
32:24my family and I, we do as we pack, we pray, even though we may not know the name of the
32:28child who's going to receive the gift, God knows and we pray for impacts just like you experienced.
32:34Where can people go if they want to get more information and they want to be a part of packing
32:38a shoebox and make it available for National Collection Week? How can they do so?
32:41So you can go to SamaritanPurse.org slash OCC for more information about packing shoe
32:51box and today is the beginning of the National Collection week until November 24th. So you still
32:59have time, grab a box and pack a shoe box and when you go to the website you can find your
33:06a near-restrop of location, you can drop off there.
33:09And then you never know that shoe buck gives
33:12is mean a lot to the children.
33:15It might seem small and simple,
33:18but it could mean the world to the child
33:20who never received a gift before.
33:22Amen.
33:23Yes.
33:24Amen folks, you definitely wanna be a part of this.
33:27This is one small way, even if you never are able
33:30to participate in a foreign mission trip,
33:32you can be a part of ministering to someone
33:34in the foreign country by just packing a simple shoebox.
33:37Simply go to samaritanspurse.org slash OCC.
33:42That is samaritanspurse.org slash OCC.
33:46Your small gift could very well be for a child,
33:49exactly what Ms. Lita Geed experienced,
33:52a tangible deposit to show the love of Christ.
33:55Thank you, Lita.
33:56Amen.
33:57Thank you so much.
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36:15Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton,
36:17the third here.
36:18I am delighted to have on the show with me
36:20a woman who usually probably helps you
36:23in getting to work in the mornings.
36:24And we help you get home from work usually in the evenings.
36:27For most of you, I'm speaking of none other than Jenna Ellis,
36:30host of Jenna Ellis in the morning right here
36:32American Family Radio also host of On Demand with Jenna Ellis, the podcast made available
36:38through the American Family Radio podcast network.
36:41And I have her on because she just published a new article available at AFN.net titled The
36:47Future of Conservatism.
36:49Now when question is not behind us.
36:52Jenna, thank you for joining me here this evening when you normally would be chilling.
36:56Thank you for joining me here on the Hamilton Corner.
36:57Well, thanks.
36:58It's fun to chill with you.
36:59I love joining in the evening and listening to you
37:02in the evenings as well.
37:03Oh, it is a pleasure to have you on.
37:05And I'm grateful that you were willing to even come on
37:07to talk about this, because I know I asked you to come on
37:09very late, but you were gracious in being willing to come on.
37:14Now, I also listened to the piece that you sent me,
37:17the audio from your show.
37:18When you pin this article, what are you attempting to convey
37:23that is absolutely necessary for, I would argue,
37:26the entire body politic to understand,
37:28but also Christians,
37:29constitutionalists and conservatives.
37:31Mm, that's a big question that right now,
37:35when we are at the midst of,
37:37in the midst of possibly the fourth turning,
37:39we're seeing that the Trump era is coming to a close.
37:43We're on the brink of more modern technology
37:46dealing with AI.
37:47I mean, you have so many questions
37:49that are what does the future hold?
37:51My attempt at this article was to answer the question
37:55of why conservatism, when defined and articulated correctly,
38:01is still relevant.
38:03And not only is it relevant, it is premised
38:06in a foundational eternal truth,
38:09because what we are really conserving
38:13is what God ordained.
38:15And we have so much focus on the failures of institutions.
38:20And we hear this all the time that young men,
38:23especially have lost trust in institutions,
38:27they're tired of the establishment GOP,
38:29all of those things true.
38:30And we can and should criticize and critique men
38:34and their man-made institutions.
38:36But what we should be preserving and conserving
38:40is what is true throughout all of human history,
38:44which is the person of God himself and his authority
38:47and his three ordained institutions,
38:50which are the church government,
38:51the family government and the civil government.
38:53So the future of conservatism, as I say in the piece,
38:57isn't behind us, it's above us.
39:00Oh, I love that so much.
39:02And even when talking to you about this, I said,
39:03when you included that in the piece,
39:05the future conservatism isn't behind us, it is above us.
39:08It's such a profound reality because there has been
39:12kind of komingud, if you will,
39:14with the intense and continued secularization
39:19of America, generally speaking,
39:21there's been an effort even to kind of secularize
39:24the so-called conservative movement.
39:26And so what we're witnessing really is a lot of people
39:29who have become exhausted by the failures of the efforts,
39:33but may not be aware of exactly why the efforts have failed.
39:37And what is it that we should be drawing toward
39:40in order to reestablish ourselves in a much more sound footing,
39:45instead of only being identifiable what you oppose,
39:48what are the ideals of principles and frankly,
39:51the truth that we should be ascribing toward
39:53that would further anchor our society.
39:55And then you referred to it just now,
39:57but how would you articulate that
39:59to kind of flesh it out a bit more for people
40:01that are kind of floundering in the midst of the current million?
40:04Yeah, and you know, I think that what you've articulated
40:07is also true for how so many young people feel about church
40:11as well, when they say, you know, look,
40:13I look at all these different denominations, these factions,
40:16I look at the mega churches that aren't doing XYZ.
40:19I look at the theological milieu,
40:21and so the response is to abandon church altogether.
40:25Well, what you're doing is actually abandoning
40:28an institution that God tells you to be a part of.
40:31The same thing with the family.
40:32We see the rise of divorce, we see relationships
40:35that don't work out.
40:36We see tragedy, you know, with people who lose their spouses,
40:41like Erica Kirk, lost Charlie Kirk.
40:43We see abuse.
40:45We see so many other ways that the family has broken down.
40:48And so then the future is well, redefined it all together, right?
40:51Well, no, that's not the response.
40:54It's that we need and what I articulate in the piece is a revitalized church that preaches
40:59truth without fear, strong families capable of withstanding cultural collapse.
41:04And then for our current political milieu, as you put it, legitimate civil government
41:10that protects life, liberty, and property, not that manages speech, faith, or parental
41:15rights, but the term legitimate means understanding that the source of civil government authority
41:24is God himself, and therefore we cannot do anything separate and apart from what he
41:29has delegated to the civil government and also the church and the family.
41:34If we truly want to conserve the institutions that God has ordained and we want to go into
41:41the next part of the American experiment that is ahead of us, we have to always look
41:48above instead of reducing the political question to either the future or what's in the past.
41:57Man, it is so profound.
42:00You write in the piece on this point, you say this quote, when conservatives act like,
42:05when conservatives act like saving the GOP brand or restoring the Reagan coalition or
42:09defending norms is the goal, they missed the point.
42:12Reagan didn't succeed because he happened to govern during the 1980s.
42:15He succeeded because his leadership aligned with timeless, transcendent principles that
42:20reflect the God-ordained institutions that actually matter.
42:26I mean, that is such a true statement
42:28because with the disintegration of the family, for example,
42:31and this is a point that I try to illustrate for people,
42:34it's one thing when you don't know what you don't know,
42:37it's one thing to be ignorant.
42:39It's another thing to be ignorant
42:41of that which you are ignorant of.
42:44So when you have people who say,
42:47well, we need to talk about family values,
42:49but the majority of people, younger people,
42:51Gen Z, millennials, and even younger,
42:54when you talk about family values,
42:55Well, the majority of those people, many of whom are adults now, they come from families
43:00where divorce was the norm, not the exception, the norm.
43:03So when you say family values to them, they hear something completely differently than
43:07what others in other generations might say.
43:10And to that point, you are this explaining that we need to begin to once again proclaim
43:16what the truth is concerning family, not merely reflecting on some nostalgic idea of
43:22days gone by, but affirmatively present the good, the true and the beautiful concerning
43:28what family is as God has ordained it.
43:30Did I explain that right?
43:31Yeah, absolutely.
43:32Amen.
43:33And this goes to this rising question of how the Reagan generation is quote unquote out
43:40of touch because the American dream is not possible right now for Gen Zers.
43:45And so they're saying, well, yeah, well, maybe you got to buy a house and you had a nuclear
43:50family you lived in the era that you're dreaming about of, you know, the 80s and 90s and so forth,
43:56but that's just not reality anymore. If that's the goal that we are articulating to the next
44:02generation that the American dream is about a moment in time or is about a quality of life,
44:09then we are totally missing the point because those are surficycles. Those are a reflection
44:14of the principles that transcend far longer than just the last greatest generation that's
44:21currently surviving can articulate the American dream.
44:24The true American dream actually has nothing to do with living specifically in America.
44:30It's that this country was the first country literally founded on a recognition that our
44:36rights are pre-political and every human being who has ever existed at any time, place, or
44:41culture has the same rights that God gave them, the same inherent dignity and value and
44:46worth, and the same mission to have a family, to be part of a church, to come into a saving
44:53knowledge of Jesus Christ, and have the freedom and liberty that is protected by their civil
44:58government to pursue the things of God.
45:00The American dream is inextricably intertwined with the truth of God.
45:06And if we are conserving the American experiment, then what we absolutely are doing is preserving
45:13and protecting the biblical worldview that is timeless.
45:17You say this plainly, now I'm not going to read the whole piece on the air because everybody
45:21needs to go to AFN.net and get this piece, read it, share it with your friends, Jeff, please
45:26put it in the show notes so that people can circulate this.
45:29I mean, you say it plainly, quote, the future of conservatism will not be secured by reliving
45:341776 or 1980. It will be secured by returning to the God-ordained institutions that existed
45:40long before America and will outlast every political cycle you go on to say in mentioning
45:46a revitalized church, preaching the truth without fear, strong families capable with standing
45:50cultural collapse, legitimate civil government that protects life, liberty and property,
45:55that these aren't old-fashioned ideas. They're the only framework strong enough to rebuild
46:01a free society. Jenna, you were in the kitchen with your chefs at all because you were cooking.
46:07You know, which is exactly where a woman should be, right? Because I'm baking my Christmas cookies
46:12tonight, in fact. So I love it. And we can say that because I love the God ordained traditional
46:19rules, right? Like women, I want to be a wife and a mother someday. And so if you're listening
46:23and you have a recommendation, Abe is accepting applications for vetting for my future husband.
46:28And so just putting that out there.
46:29But this is so true that it's like we have this conception
46:34as patriotic Americans that somehow this notion
46:39of pre-political rights and everything about America
46:42began in 1776 and these were new ideas.
46:46Well, now our founders understood these principles
46:49from the Bible.
46:50They understood them from generations passing
46:53in the history and tradition of the law,
46:55of understanding how civil governments rose and fell
46:58throughout history and what they had come from,
47:01from England that didn't protect religious liberty.
47:03I mean, all of these things,
47:05this wasn't some brand new idea that spawned the greatest
47:09nation that has ever existed on the face of the earth.
47:11It was a recognition of the truth of God
47:15and his view of what a moral and upright society
47:20that is truly fashioned in liberty actually means
47:24and what it provides for the family and the church,
47:28which is protection ultimately to raise our children
47:31in the fear and admonition of the Lord
47:33and to worship God freely and do exactly what we're doing
47:35right now, Abe, which is speaking together
47:38about truth and the things of God,
47:40which is exercising our first freedoms,
47:42freedom of speech, freedom of association,
47:44free exercise of religion,
47:45and also freedom of the press,
47:46because hey, we're in a radio network.
47:48Absolutely.
47:49I'll give you one more,
47:51because these quotes are just so profound.
47:53You wrote, quote, the left builds institutions intended to replace God's authority.
47:59Conservatives must stop trying to conserve those.
48:02Our mission is not to protect the status quo, but to protect the eternal order.
48:08End quote.
48:08That is, is spot on because as you, as I read that, I immediately thought the
48:14progressive movement, the progressive movement literally thought the moved to
48:18entrying institutions to rip our nation away from God's authority.
48:23and to supplant God's authority with man-made, and I would argue, an insufficient replacement
48:29for God's authority, I think you rightly diagnosed that in the piece.
48:33Yeah, and the right is just as guilty of holding up institutions as if they are the final authority,
48:40like saying, as long as we have a Christian president, then anything that he does, or a Republican
48:47president, even anything he does is without being subject to criticism. And no, the president
48:53actually is a man-made institution because the Bible does not require a president, the
48:58Bible does not require a constitutional form of government, and yet we preserve some of
49:04these institutions which I think are worth preserving like the US Constitution, but it
49:08has to be for the reason that they are the best expression of God's authority that ultimately
49:14those institutions were founded and established and man-made because they're the best vehicle
49:19to ultimately protect the eternal order and limited delegated authority that comes from
49:26God himself.
49:27And the moment that those institutions run afoul of God's eternal order, like what our
49:32US Supreme Court is doing right now by not overturning the horrific same sex marriage decision,
49:39that needs to be called out.
49:40We don't just say, well, because you are the US Supreme Court, you're infallible.
49:44It doesn't work like that.
49:46The only institutions that are worth preserving 100% are the institutions that God ordained.
49:54So well said.
49:55So well said.
49:56So as you are laid it out, the way forward is not harkening to nostalgia.
50:03The way forward is transcendent.
50:05It's eternal.
50:06It's above us.
50:07If we're seeking for and grappling for how do we find our footing in this, you know, the
50:13torrential winds of modern society in our nation, what we need to do is grasp upward to what
50:19what God has already established.
50:21You mentioned them already, revitalized church, strong families, legitimate civil government.
50:25How can we do exactly what you prescribe for us to do in your article?
50:30By keeping God at the center instead of transforming our national religion into a worship of politics,
50:39the moment that we do that and we worship a movement or we worship politics or so focused
50:45on that and we lose sight of the eternal person of truth, then we get off track in so
50:50many different directions. We have to keep the main thing, the main thing, which is God
50:54at the center. Well said, Jenna Ellis, ladies and gentlemen, if you are not tuning in in
50:59the morning, what are you doing? Get your life right and tune into American Family Radio
51:05At 7 a.m. Central time, 8 a.m. Eastern time, you can hear Jenna in the morning, or you can
51:10hear her podcast on demand. And frankly, you can get all of her daily radio programs and
51:15her podcast on demand. There's no excuse. You can get the American family radio app, whether
51:20you have an Apple device, Android device, and you can carry the Hamilton corner in your pocket.
51:25You can carry Jenna Ellis in your pocket and tune in whenever you can. Jenna, thank you
51:29so much for taking the time to hop on with me this evening.
51:31Thank you, my friend. I'm going to go back to the kitchen where I belong.
51:35The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American
51:45Family Association or American Family Radio.

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