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12. 0:35Welcome to the Hamilton Corner here on American Family Radio.
13. 0:37I'm your host, Abraham Hamilton III.
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19. 0:52ladies and gentlemen, and we are ready to rock and roll
20. 0:54with today's edition of the program
21. 0:57to get this work week kicked off.
22. 0:59We are excited to be with you.
23. 1:01We are planning a few remote broadcasts this week.
24. 1:05I voter guide is having a conference
25. 1:08on the Patriot Academy campus this week.
26. 1:11Rick Green, our colleague here is hosting
27. 1:16the I voter guide and planning the broadcast
28. 1:18from there later this week.
29. 1:19So it's gonna be an exciting week of programming
30. 1:22and excited to confer with you all,
31. 1:26share information and most importantly to encourage you to
32. 1:29continue to fight the good fight of faith at this very moment.
33. 1:33Many of you, if not most of you are making your transition from
34. 1:36your part time jobs where you generate an income to your full
35. 1:40time jobs where you cultivate an outcome. And as you do so, I want
36. 1:42to remind you to do so with intentionality, I will continue
37. 1:47to stress this. Because the story of America secularization has
38. 1:52not been the effective evangelistic circuit writing of the
39. 1:56Atheists, no, no, it has been, unfortunately, the phenomenon articulating the Colossians
40. 2:06too, in that the old deluder has been able to infiltrate the homes and ultimately the
41. 2:15local assemblies and to cultivate a certain affinity for worldliness that rivaled the
42. 2:22the truth of Christ and over the course of time, because discipleship is a constant, which simply
43. 2:29means it's going to happen. The only question is who is going to be the discipler and in which
44. 2:35direction will the discipleship occur? Jesus told us the student when fully trained, he will be like
45. 2:41his teacher. And much of what is transpired in our country, the spirit of the age has infiltrated
46. 2:50at the family level in many instances and ultimately into the local assembly to kind of twist following the way of Christ into something that is foreign.
47. 3:05And over time, as a proverb warned a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, our nation went from Mr. Gorbachev tear down that wall to New York City's Islamianist mayor,
48. 3:23which increasingly large contingents of younger people,
49. 3:29who at least by name would say they prefer socialism,
50. 3:35which of course the illogical underpinnings of socialism
51. 3:37is atheism.
52. 3:39And as Marx posited, socialism is simply
53. 3:43and a step en route to full on communism.
54. 3:47How does that happen?
55. 3:50That's how it happens.
56. 3:52But by God's grace, we have the wherewithal to recognize
57. 3:56as transpired and turned the tide.
58. 4:00And thanks be to God that he is still in the business of using crickets sticks to paint
59. 4:06straight lines.
60. 4:08What began as a small movement in Israel grew to the place to where these people have shaken
61. 4:19up the entire world have now come here.
62. 4:22And it's not over until God says it's over.
63. 4:27that he has determined and articulated in his word that he makes himself known through his
64. 4:32people. Hence my encouragement to you. What goes on in your house is far more important
65. 4:40than what goes on in the White House. We can, if we will, what do I mean by that? We can
66. 4:48see the Lord's hand and turn in the tide. If we will obey what he's commanded, you and
67. 4:53I individually, instead of looking over there, I said, what they're not doing with somebody
68. 4:58is not doing, let's look at ourselves and see what has God required of me. And am I being faithful in
69. 5:05what God has required of me? At this very moment, many of you have not most of you, as I mentioned,
70. 5:10you're making your transition from part-time work to full-time. Let's do it with intentionality.
71. 5:16Let's be about our Father's business. To the Word of God we go. 2 Peter chapter 1 again.
72. 5:22I want to go back to 2 Peter chapter 1 in this conversation here from the Lord's Word is going
73. 5:29to frame and shape the remainder of the program. In 2 Peter chapter 1 verses 12 through 15,
74. 5:38Peter writes and is keenly aware that the time of his, the expiration of his natural life
75. 5:45is at hand and not just expiration. He ultimately is martyred under Nero. But he says this,
76. 5:502 Peter chapter 1 verse 12, therefore I will always be ready to remind you of these things
77. 5:54things, even though you already know them, and have been established in the truth, which
78. 6:03is present with you.
79. 6:05I consider it right as long as I am in this earthly dwelling to stir you up by way of reminder,
80. 6:14knowing that the laying aside of my earthly dwelling is imminent.
81. 6:19As also our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me, and I will also be diligent that at
82. 6:26And any time after my departure, you will be able to call these things to mind.
83. 6:32I pointed out before from this text that Peter was keenly aware that the time of his demise
84. 6:38was near.
85. 6:39I mean, he said it plainly in verse 14, knowing that the laying aside of my earthly dwelling
86. 6:43is imminent.
87. 6:44It's imminent.
88. 6:45It's here.
89. 6:46I'm about to be out, y'all.
90. 6:47That's what Peter is saying.
91. 6:49The time of my earthly engagement as a servant of the Lord Jesus Christ is coming to an end.
92. 6:56I'm going to use the remainder of my time that God has given me here. I'm going to diligently use that
93. 7:06so that you will be able to thrive in what God has called you to, the life of Christ following,
94. 7:13even after my departure. The point I want to convey to you now is that the principles that are
95. 7:23articulated to the Christ follower, they exceed the span, they
96. 7:30exceed one's temporal lifespan. They exceed one's temporal
97. 7:35lifespan. The principles and the commands of Jesus to its
98. 7:41offspring, they are anchored in eternity. I've gone through
99. 7:48details before explaining how the revelation concerning this,
100. 7:54this inalienable right phenomenon is a revelation that flowed from the idea that mankind is made
101. 8:01in the image of God. The things that this is where, and you've heard me say this before,
102. 8:07we need to make a decision whether or not we're going to be partisans or we're going to be Christians
103. 8:11because if partisans are the affinity that the partisans will inevitably stray away
104. 8:18from biblical truth. Inevitably, we'll stray away from biblical truth. But if it is Christ over
105. 8:26everything, you don't have to worry about you straying anywhere because you're anchored in principles
106. 8:31and truth that transcends your temporal lifespan. I've shared with you all my testimony in regards to
107. 8:39civic engagement and things of that nature, that I had no clue what conservatism was or what it meant
108. 8:45meant to be a part of him and all that is what I knew,
109. 8:47is that Jesus saved me.
110. 8:48That's what I knew.
111. 8:50And as I studied the scripture,
112. 8:52there were certain things that Jesus required in scripture.
113. 8:54For example, the sanctity of human life
114. 8:56was not a political talking point that I arrived at.
115. 9:00You know, the Lord gripped me by the truth of his word,
116. 9:02by the power of his spirit concerning the fact
117. 9:04that he is the author of life.
118. 9:07That when you have passages like Malachi,
119. 9:09I'm sorry, Psalm 139 in Jeremiah,
120. 9:16when the Lord talks about, and so I'm wondering,
121. 9:19knowing all of your days before one came to fruition,
122. 9:23Genesis one, Genesis two, man con being made
123. 9:28in the image of God, seeing how God treats life
124. 9:32and its value and how he responds to those
125. 9:35who would take innocent life.
126. 9:38That came from biblical conviction.
127. 9:39I never saw a political debate on this.
128. 9:44This is what the Lord gripped me by,
129. 9:46respecting people and being remained in violent in their property.
130. 9:52It flowed from the reality that all good and perfect gives flow from the Father of
131. 9:55lights that when man has anything, it's only been afforded to him as a steward placed
132. 10:01in their stewardship by God Almighty.
133. 10:05And the reality of not only you shall not steal being a sin, but the Lord ups the
134. 10:11ante say, you shall not even covet in the in the legal context.
135. 10:16That is an in co hate crime and in co hates and, but that flows from the character
136. 10:20and the person of God.
137. 10:23That's not some, that I didn't arrive at that conclusion
138. 10:26from some, you know, white paper from some think tank,
139. 10:33you know, understand in the right functioning
140. 10:36of government even, recognizing that government
141. 10:39is not merely the innovation of man's mind,
142. 10:42that government comes from God, which reveals the reality
143. 10:46that there's a biblical anchor for legitimate government
144. 10:50and there is an illegitimate government.
145. 10:52That is the idea from which our declaration articulated
146. 10:58that government exists to serve the ends
147. 11:01to protect to the person made in God's image,
148. 11:06those rights that are inalienable,
149. 11:08that government doesn't bequeath rights to people,
150. 11:10they protect God given pre-political rights.
151. 11:15That, I didn't get that from any white paper.
152. 11:18So my point in saying these things
153. 11:22is that a part of the challenge in this moment
154. 11:24I don't know if you noticed yet, but, um,
155. 11:29there's a bit of that dare I say, um,
156. 11:33an identity crisis going on, especially right now,
157. 11:38amongst those who profess to be, you know, participants in the GOP.
158. 11:44What does it really mean?
159. 11:47This is one of the major reasons why I often describe my, um,
160. 11:51position as being more of a constitutionalist simply put because they've been
161. 11:56people saying and doing things in an amosocall conservatism that I remotely
162. 11:59close to being conservative. You know, I'm not going to go on a big deal about this now,
163. 12:06but the government shutdown boil came right down to the reality of Obamacare. Well, why
164. 12:11didn't Republicans, when they had majority repeal Obamacare, we wouldn't even have to
165. 12:14have this issue because Republican will be in the garbage dump. But if you recall, there
166. 12:20were Republicans that kept Obamacare from being repealed. Is that conservative? You
167. 12:28know, and the point of this is not to spend a whole lot of time highlighting the various
168. 12:34iterations of partisanship, but to reorient us to the fact that, wait a minute, we should
169. 12:38seek to anchor our positions for engagement on notions that are endure that are durable,
170. 12:47that are eternal. That is why I would argue that we've enjoyed the longest standard republic
171. 12:55in the history of the world, because that republic has been founded upon principles that
172. 13:00are eternal. They're not subject to the temporal, fickle nature of the ever-changing winds of a
173. 13:07perpetually confused society. It's one of the major reasons why our founders established
174. 13:14the constitutional public because it was an anticipation of man's fickle nature. Say, even
175. 13:19when man gets blown to and fro, that there was a transcendent objective standard that aids
176. 13:26doesn't know on wait, murder is murder because it is and always will be because God has established
177. 13:32it as such. When Peter is explaining this, the time of my temporal dwelling, as he says
178. 13:38in the verse 14, my earthly dwelling, the time of me laying aside, my earthly dwelling
179. 13:43is imminent. And he is more specific as also our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me.
180. 13:49I will be, I will also be diligent that at any time after my departure, you will be able
181. 13:56to call these things to mind.
182. 14:02With all of the uncertainty of this moment brothers and sisters, we have the opportunity
183. 14:07to root our positions in the transcendent, unchanging truth of God's Word and the principles from
184. 14:16God's Holy Word will drive our outward facing public facing engagement and enable us to
185. 14:28advocate for mankind to embrace the only sound source.
186. 14:33For us to enjoy what the scripture has revealed
187. 14:35is available to us, and that is through God's holy word.
188. 14:39This is one of the major reasons why I firmly object to it
189. 14:43and resist efforts to try to recast positions
190. 14:48in view of the current cultural climate.
191. 15:00A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker,
192. 15:03Proverbs 15 verse 1.
193. 15:06A soft word turns away wrath,
194. 15:09but a harsh word stirs up anger.
195. 15:12Proverbs 16 verse 24.
196. 15:14Gracious words are like a honeycomb.
197. 15:17Sweetness to the soul and health to the body.
198. 15:21Words are powerful.
199. 15:23Our words can do things far beyond what we seem to realize.
200. 15:27Words can make someone's day
201. 15:29and words can ruin someone's day.
202. 15:32words can give people hope and words can help people feel hopeless.
203. 15:37As the scripture says in Proverbs chapter 18 verse 21,
204. 15:41Death and life are in the power of the tongue.
205. 15:44Those who love it will eat its fruits.
206. 15:47We are wise to pray the prayer found in Psalm 141 verse 3.
207. 15:52Set a guard, O Lord, over my mouth.
208. 15:54Keep watch over the door of my lips.
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237. 17:00Shining light into the darkness, this is the Hamilton Corner, an American family radio.
238. 17:11Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton III.
239. 17:15Here I am delighted to have my next guest on the program because many of you may know, some
240. 17:20of you may not be aware.
241. 17:22Operation Christmas Child's National Collection Week is underway.
242. 17:27continues now all the way through to November 24th.
243. 17:30And my guest is one of the representatives of Operation
244. 17:33Christmas Child, none other than Miss Lita Geed.
245. 17:36Miss Geed, thank you for joining me here on the Hamilton
246. 17:39Corner on American Family Radio.
247. 17:41It's a pleasure for to join you tonight.
248. 17:44Oh, the pleasure is absolutely mine.
249. 17:46And I am confident it is our listeners and viewers as well.
250. 17:50Would you just share a little bit of your background?
251. 17:51I know that you are from Cambodia originally.
252. 17:55Would you share a little bit of your background
253. 17:57and how you've encountered Operation Christmas Child
254. 17:59ultimately in your own life?
255. 18:01Sure, thank you.
256. 18:03So my name is Lida Gitt,
257. 18:05and I'm originally a shoe buck recipient,
258. 18:08come from Cambodia.
259. 18:10And I would like to share a little bit of my childhood.
260. 18:15Before I received the shoe buck gift,
261. 18:18when I was a kid, everyone in Cambodia was poor
262. 18:21because they had been a war, the genocide.
263. 18:24And I was hard, it was hard to find food,
264. 18:27was hard to find a place to live and not every child could go to school. And as a child, I
265. 18:33had no toy to play with it. And my dad was hardly ever around. And so my mom had to work
266. 18:39so hard just for food. And there was no money for nice clothes or even by toys. And in fact,
267. 18:47I never owned a pair of shoes and only a rubber flip-flop. And when I was around four years
268. 18:55So, usually my mother took me to work with her,
269. 18:59but one day she took, she left me home alone
270. 19:03and that day I got kidnapped and I was so too a brothel.
271. 19:07Child trafficking was a big problem at that time
272. 19:10and I was only four, so I was so scared and terrified.
273. 19:14And but fortunately I got rescue
274. 19:19from a Cambodian Christian couple
275. 19:22and they told me back to my mother on the same day,
276. 19:25It was a miracle.
277. 19:26And later on in life,
278. 19:30I hardly ever saw my father,
279. 19:32and all I know about him is that he was a gambler
280. 19:34and womanizer, and he never took the responsibility
281. 19:38over my mom and I, and he even gambled away our house.
282. 19:42And so both of us had no place to leave.
283. 19:44We were homeless, hopeless and loveless.
284. 19:47And would you tell me, how would you respond
285. 19:51and handle all this at a young age?
286. 19:54And I, it was soon clear that I, my single mother
287. 19:59could not protect and provide for me at the same time.
288. 20:03So I was sent to leave with my uncle family
289. 20:05and where he become like a true father to me.
290. 20:08And I'm grateful to him for taking me
291. 20:11into his Christian family.
292. 20:13And he's a kind-hearted man.
293. 20:15He took the responsibility for me.
294. 20:17He provide for my basic needs,
295. 20:20allowed me to go to school
296. 20:21and took me to church every Sunday with the family
297. 20:26where as soon it's become my favorite place to be at.
298. 20:30And so my life at that time,
299. 20:34if you can imagine it's like a dark cloud
300. 20:36and I was not a happy child,
301. 20:38I thought that I was not so special.
302. 20:42I don't feel somebody, anyone can't for me
303. 20:47me and I felt like I'm not even exist. So I always wonder where is the true love and why
304. 21:02my life is like there's no color in my life's only dark and gray color. And one of the
305. 21:10a favorite hobby that I used to do when I was a child.
306. 21:15When I went to church, it's doing coloring.
307. 21:18But when you go to church and do the coloring,
308. 21:21you have to leave the stuff there.
309. 21:23You cannot, you cannot, can never take it home.
310. 21:27And that was it.
311. 21:28And so I always love to draw in color,
312. 21:31but I never get to own an art supply.
313. 21:36So one day when I went to church,
314. 21:38I was invited to check for kids' events with my cousins.
315. 21:41And when I was in the room, there was a lot of kids.
316. 21:46And then I noticed that there was a lot of boxes
317. 21:50coupled with white cloths, but I can see the sparkly
318. 21:56color paper wrapping around that boxes.
319. 21:59It's just so, I was so curious what was inside it.
320. 22:03How old were you at this point?
321. 22:05So that's when I was around 12 years old.
322. 22:10Okay.
323. 22:11Yeah.
324. 22:12So that I've been...
325. 22:13That's interesting.
326. 22:14Yes.
327. 22:15So, yes.
328. 22:16So when I was around 12 when I joined these kids, it went.
329. 22:21And at the end of the program, after we hear the gospel presentation and all these stuff,
330. 22:27they told our people going to receive a shoe buck gift.
331. 22:31And I could not believe with my own eye that I was going to receive my very first gift ever
332. 22:39from Operation Christmas Child.
333. 22:41It brought tears to my eyes.
334. 22:43They handed me my very own shoe bar gift.
335. 22:46I remember it was a Robbie colorful paper.
336. 22:49It was heavy.
337. 22:51And the one thing, the first thing that caught my attention, it was the smell of the shoe
338. 22:57bar.
339. 22:58I did not know what you guys put in there.
340. 23:00But even a toad brides also smells so good.
341. 23:04And I remember I received school supplies, hygiene items, and like a toy, a doll, a
342. 23:12jumbro.
343. 23:13But one thing that stood out to me the most, it was a color, a very good quality color pencil.
344. 23:23And you know, I told you that I all would love to draw, but I never get to own one.
345. 23:30And so, having my very own ass supply inside the shoe bar, it made me feel careful and special.
346. 23:38It was the moment that I realized that God is real and He came for me.
347. 23:42And I was wondering where the shoe bar came from and who gave it to me.
348. 23:46And when I asked, I was told that it came from people who love God.
349. 23:51And I was amazed that someone who did not know me live across the world from me who
350. 23:56cared enough to practice shoe bar.
351. 23:58for me. I wanted school supply. I wanted a olive pencil and it was, they were there inside
352. 24:06my shoe bar that made me felt that there's somebody out there who loved God and then I
353. 24:13can receive God, tangible love that I can touch that I can feel and I can smell the love.
354. 24:20I call a foreign smell, a role model, love that I can feel it.
355. 24:27And so this show brought, it's really changed my life.
356. 24:32It brought the color into my life layer on.
357. 24:36And it was the moment that I realized that God is real and he cared for me.
358. 24:41So, this, you know, even though life will feel with so much pains and many hardships,
359. 24:50but I can clearly see Scott's hand protect for me over again and again.
360. 24:55And the show about give was one of those seeds that got planted in my heart to remind
361. 25:00me that I am not forgotten.
362. 25:02I struggle to forgive those who hurt me, especially the one who was supposed to care for me like
363. 25:09my own parent. But then I let her I learn in Isaiah 49 15 said, can a mother forget the baby at her
364. 25:17breath and have no compassion to a child she has born, though she may forget, I will never forget
365. 25:25you. And this scripture is reminded me that I have not forgotten God used many situations in my life
366. 25:33to remind me that I am not forgotten.
367. 25:36Amen.
368. 25:37And the show about give,
369. 25:39I planted seed in my heart
370. 25:41and to experience God's tangible love.
371. 25:45And because of experiencing this love, God's love for me,
372. 25:49I learned this important life lesson
373. 25:52is to forgive the whole hurt me,
374. 25:54just ask Christ for giving my sin.
375. 25:57Now let me ask you this,
376. 25:58because I know you eventually become a teacher
377. 26:01at the greatest journey.
378. 26:02How did you accomplish your faith in Christ Jesus for salvation?
379. 26:06Yes. So after I received my shoe bag, give a few year letter, I decided to put my faith in Christ.
380. 26:13And I became so passionate about children ministry.
381. 26:17And I got involved with that because of involving with the children ministry, I got to,
382. 26:24I got the opportunity to reconnect it with our present Christmas child again.
383. 26:28And then I had the opportunity to distribute shoeboxes to other children myself.
384. 26:34Wow.
385. 26:34And yeah, it was incredible being on the other side of the shoebox and witness the joys on
386. 26:39the children faces just as I felt when I received mine.
387. 26:43And also, yes, God told me to be more involved with the office in Christmas shop and by becoming
388. 26:49the great best-year teacher.
389. 26:51And this is a 12 discipleship program,
390. 26:55offer to children after they receive the Shubak gift.
391. 27:00We invite them back and have the discipleship program
392. 27:03together with us.
393. 27:05And I just want to tell you, I witnessed the impact
394. 27:08of the gospel in the life of children.
395. 27:12Not only as they heard the gospel before they received
396. 27:14the Shubak gift, but as we went through
397. 27:16the discipleship program together.
398. 27:19And today, many of them I taught and now do one teaching
399. 27:23and serving other children themselves.
400. 27:26So the shoe box give Israeli an open door for evangelism,
401. 27:31discipleship and multiplication.
402. 27:34That is fantastic.
403. 27:36And for those who may not be aware,
404. 27:38as Ms. Gee shared, the greatest journey is a program
405. 27:43that accompanies the Operation Christmas Child Shoe Box gift
406. 27:46because each child that receives the shoebox gift
407. 27:50is invited to participate in the greatest journey.
408. 27:53And I wanna ask you, Lita.
409. 27:56Yes.
410. 27:57And you described it a little bit.
411. 27:59Can you just expound a little bit more
412. 28:01of how it was for you after having received the shoebox
413. 28:04such an early age, after having suffered?
414. 28:09I mean, I know you only,
415. 28:10you didn't even hit the tip of the iceberg
416. 28:11and the things that you suffered.
417. 28:13But to be on the other side, packing the shoeboxes
418. 28:17and then teaching the greatest journey
419. 28:20for children who receive gifts, shoebox gifts,
420. 28:23just as you received.
421. 28:26How would I feel?
422. 28:28Yeah, how did it feel for you to be the one packing
423. 28:30those shoeboxes?
424. 28:31Oh, I mean, it was incredible.
425. 28:34I cannot, when I received my shoebox gift,
426. 28:36I never imagined that one day I would be also giving
427. 28:40shoeboxes to other children.
428. 28:41And now that I am America, I, myself and my family, are packing shoebox in force.
429. 28:47Incredible.
430. 28:48Being on the other side of the shoebox and, you know, it just made me feel that.
431. 28:56And looking back, I can clearly see God's hand as he was guiding me through in a way that I could be here today.
432. 29:03and to practice your body's children and then also to witness the impact of the eternal impact
433. 29:14in that simple shoe box you can make the transformation in the children's lives around the world.
434. 29:22You never know that the shoe box, that you pack can make the eternal impact in the life of the
435. 29:27children around the world. You mentioned that you went through the struggle of
436. 29:33learning to forgive those who hurt you and including, you know, your parents.
437. 29:40My parents.
438. 29:41Yeah.
439. 29:42How did the shoebox gift relate to the love of Christ being revealed to you and then how
440. 29:47did that impact your ability to grow to the point where you could forgive?
441. 29:51Yeah.
442. 29:52So I mentioned I struggle to forgive.
443. 29:56Don't hurt me.
444. 29:58I mean, not just my own parent, there were so many other people who hurt me and wrong me.
445. 30:05And forgive, forgive someone who wrong, I wrongers and embarrassers or hurters. It's not easy.
446. 30:12And sometimes it sounds impossible. But then after receiving this shoe bag,
447. 30:17like I said, it's one of those seeds that got already planted in my heart to show me that I'm
448. 30:24not forgotten and that he's care for me and I experience his love and that I learned that
449. 30:31God love us so much that he said he beloved son to die on the cross for me and that I am a sinful
450. 30:41person and God can forgive me so why I cannot forgive other people and so it's with this it's
451. 30:51really changed my life to help me to really
452. 30:57transform my life that I God can forgive me so I also can forgive. I mean
453. 31:07forgiving someone is hard. I and then God called us to forgive not just one in
454. 31:13Matthew 1822 Jesus said to forgive 70 times seven right that's me he asked us to
455. 31:20will give again and again up until today my life hasn't always been easy. But then my
456. 31:26country felt me, my family felt me. I didn't have a choice where I was born into. I was
457. 31:32born into a poor and broken family. But I can still choose Jesus because he has seen me,
458. 31:40he has chosen me. And before I was born, I was in my mother's, well, he already know my
459. 31:46name. And so, but when I, when it's hard to forgive, I ask, I look up to Christ and I ask him for the
460. 31:58strength to do so for others. And that is how I can moving forward and I practice this forgiveness
461. 32:06again and again.
462. 32:08And it's so profound. I mean, you're sharing something that really is unfathomable for many
463. 32:12people listening and watching right now because to be sold to a brothel at four years old.
464. 32:17I mean, this is amazing, but packing these shoeboxes, praying over them, that's something
465. 32:24my family and I, we do as we pack, we pray, even though we may not know the name of the
466. 32:28child who's going to receive the gift, God knows and we pray for impacts just like you experienced.
467. 32:34Where can people go if they want to get more information and they want to be a part of packing
468. 32:38a shoebox and make it available for National Collection Week? How can they do so?
469. 32:41So you can go to SamaritanPurse.org slash OCC for more information about packing shoe
470. 32:51box and today is the beginning of the National Collection week until November 24th. So you still
471. 32:59have time, grab a box and pack a shoe box and when you go to the website you can find your
472. 33:06a near-restrop of location, you can drop off there.
473. 33:09And then you never know that shoe buck gives
474. 33:12is mean a lot to the children.
475. 33:15It might seem small and simple,
476. 33:18but it could mean the world to the child
477. 33:20who never received a gift before.
478. 33:22Amen.
479. 33:23Yes.
480. 33:24Amen folks, you definitely wanna be a part of this.
481. 33:27This is one small way, even if you never are able
482. 33:30to participate in a foreign mission trip,
483. 33:32you can be a part of ministering to someone
484. 33:34in the foreign country by just packing a simple shoebox.
485. 33:37Simply go to samaritanspurse.org slash OCC.
486. 33:42That is samaritanspurse.org slash OCC.
487. 33:46Your small gift could very well be for a child,
488. 33:49exactly what Ms. Lita Geed experienced,
489. 33:52a tangible deposit to show the love of Christ.
490. 33:55Thank you, Lita.
491. 33:56Amen.
492. 33:57Thank you so much.
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543. 36:15Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton,
544. 36:17the third here.
545. 36:18I am delighted to have on the show with me
546. 36:20a woman who usually probably helps you
547. 36:23in getting to work in the mornings.
548. 36:24And we help you get home from work usually in the evenings.
549. 36:27For most of you, I'm speaking of none other than Jenna Ellis,
550. 36:30host of Jenna Ellis in the morning right here
551. 36:32American Family Radio also host of On Demand with Jenna Ellis, the podcast made available
552. 36:38through the American Family Radio podcast network.
553. 36:41And I have her on because she just published a new article available at AFN.net titled The
554. 36:47Future of Conservatism.
555. 36:49Now when question is not behind us.
556. 36:52Jenna, thank you for joining me here this evening when you normally would be chilling.
557. 36:56Thank you for joining me here on the Hamilton Corner.
558. 36:57Well, thanks.
559. 36:58It's fun to chill with you.
560. 36:59I love joining in the evening and listening to you
561. 37:02in the evenings as well.
562. 37:03Oh, it is a pleasure to have you on.
563. 37:05And I'm grateful that you were willing to even come on
564. 37:07to talk about this, because I know I asked you to come on
565. 37:09very late, but you were gracious in being willing to come on.
566. 37:14Now, I also listened to the piece that you sent me,
567. 37:17the audio from your show.
568. 37:18When you pin this article, what are you attempting to convey
569. 37:23that is absolutely necessary for, I would argue,
570. 37:26the entire body politic to understand,
571. 37:28but also Christians,
572. 37:29constitutionalists and conservatives.
573. 37:31Mm, that's a big question that right now,
574. 37:35when we are at the midst of,
575. 37:37in the midst of possibly the fourth turning,
576. 37:39we're seeing that the Trump era is coming to a close.
577. 37:43We're on the brink of more modern technology
578. 37:46dealing with AI.
579. 37:47I mean, you have so many questions
580. 37:49that are what does the future hold?
581. 37:51My attempt at this article was to answer the question
582. 37:55of why conservatism, when defined and articulated correctly,
583. 38:01is still relevant.
584. 38:03And not only is it relevant, it is premised
585. 38:06in a foundational eternal truth,
586. 38:09because what we are really conserving
587. 38:13is what God ordained.
588. 38:15And we have so much focus on the failures of institutions.
589. 38:20And we hear this all the time that young men,
590. 38:23especially have lost trust in institutions,
591. 38:27they're tired of the establishment GOP,
592. 38:29all of those things true.
593. 38:30And we can and should criticize and critique men
594. 38:34and their man-made institutions.
595. 38:36But what we should be preserving and conserving
596. 38:40is what is true throughout all of human history,
597. 38:44which is the person of God himself and his authority
598. 38:47and his three ordained institutions,
599. 38:50which are the church government,
600. 38:51the family government and the civil government.
601. 38:53So the future of conservatism, as I say in the piece,
602. 38:57isn't behind us, it's above us.
603. 39:00Oh, I love that so much.
604. 39:02And even when talking to you about this, I said,
605. 39:03when you included that in the piece,
606. 39:05the future conservatism isn't behind us, it is above us.
607. 39:08It's such a profound reality because there has been
608. 39:12kind of komingud, if you will,
609. 39:14with the intense and continued secularization
610. 39:19of America, generally speaking,
611. 39:21there's been an effort even to kind of secularize
612. 39:24the so-called conservative movement.
613. 39:26And so what we're witnessing really is a lot of people
614. 39:29who have become exhausted by the failures of the efforts,
615. 39:33but may not be aware of exactly why the efforts have failed.
616. 39:37And what is it that we should be drawing toward
617. 39:40in order to reestablish ourselves in a much more sound footing,
618. 39:45instead of only being identifiable what you oppose,
619. 39:48what are the ideals of principles and frankly,
620. 39:51the truth that we should be ascribing toward
621. 39:53that would further anchor our society.
622. 39:55And then you referred to it just now,
623. 39:57but how would you articulate that
624. 39:59to kind of flesh it out a bit more for people
625. 40:01that are kind of floundering in the midst of the current million?
626. 40:04Yeah, and you know, I think that what you've articulated
627. 40:07is also true for how so many young people feel about church
628. 40:11as well, when they say, you know, look,
629. 40:13I look at all these different denominations, these factions,
630. 40:16I look at the mega churches that aren't doing XYZ.
631. 40:19I look at the theological milieu,
632. 40:21and so the response is to abandon church altogether.
633. 40:25Well, what you're doing is actually abandoning
634. 40:28an institution that God tells you to be a part of.
635. 40:31The same thing with the family.
636. 40:32We see the rise of divorce, we see relationships
637. 40:35that don't work out.
638. 40:36We see tragedy, you know, with people who lose their spouses,
639. 40:41like Erica Kirk, lost Charlie Kirk.
640. 40:43We see abuse.
641. 40:45We see so many other ways that the family has broken down.
642. 40:48And so then the future is well, redefined it all together, right?
643. 40:51Well, no, that's not the response.
644. 40:54It's that we need and what I articulate in the piece is a revitalized church that preaches
645. 40:59truth without fear, strong families capable of withstanding cultural collapse.
646. 41:04And then for our current political milieu, as you put it, legitimate civil government
647. 41:10that protects life, liberty, and property, not that manages speech, faith, or parental
648. 41:15rights, but the term legitimate means understanding that the source of civil government authority
649. 41:24is God himself, and therefore we cannot do anything separate and apart from what he
650. 41:29has delegated to the civil government and also the church and the family.
651. 41:34If we truly want to conserve the institutions that God has ordained and we want to go into
652. 41:41the next part of the American experiment that is ahead of us, we have to always look
653. 41:48above instead of reducing the political question to either the future or what's in the past.
654. 41:57Man, it is so profound.
655. 42:00You write in the piece on this point, you say this quote, when conservatives act like,
656. 42:05when conservatives act like saving the GOP brand or restoring the Reagan coalition or
657. 42:09defending norms is the goal, they missed the point.
658. 42:12Reagan didn't succeed because he happened to govern during the 1980s.
659. 42:15He succeeded because his leadership aligned with timeless, transcendent principles that
660. 42:20reflect the God-ordained institutions that actually matter.
661. 42:26I mean, that is such a true statement
662. 42:28because with the disintegration of the family, for example,
663. 42:31and this is a point that I try to illustrate for people,
664. 42:34it's one thing when you don't know what you don't know,
665. 42:37it's one thing to be ignorant.
666. 42:39It's another thing to be ignorant
667. 42:41of that which you are ignorant of.
668. 42:44So when you have people who say,
669. 42:47well, we need to talk about family values,
670. 42:49but the majority of people, younger people,
671. 42:51Gen Z, millennials, and even younger,
672. 42:54when you talk about family values,
673. 42:55Well, the majority of those people, many of whom are adults now, they come from families
674. 43:00where divorce was the norm, not the exception, the norm.
675. 43:03So when you say family values to them, they hear something completely differently than
676. 43:07what others in other generations might say.
677. 43:10And to that point, you are this explaining that we need to begin to once again proclaim
678. 43:16what the truth is concerning family, not merely reflecting on some nostalgic idea of
679. 43:22days gone by, but affirmatively present the good, the true and the beautiful concerning
680. 43:28what family is as God has ordained it.
681. 43:30Did I explain that right?
682. 43:31Yeah, absolutely.
683. 43:32Amen.
684. 43:33And this goes to this rising question of how the Reagan generation is quote unquote out
685. 43:40of touch because the American dream is not possible right now for Gen Zers.
686. 43:45And so they're saying, well, yeah, well, maybe you got to buy a house and you had a nuclear
687. 43:50family you lived in the era that you're dreaming about of, you know, the 80s and 90s and so forth,
688. 43:56but that's just not reality anymore. If that's the goal that we are articulating to the next
689. 44:02generation that the American dream is about a moment in time or is about a quality of life,
690. 44:09then we are totally missing the point because those are surficycles. Those are a reflection
691. 44:14of the principles that transcend far longer than just the last greatest generation that's
692. 44:21currently surviving can articulate the American dream.
693. 44:24The true American dream actually has nothing to do with living specifically in America.
694. 44:30It's that this country was the first country literally founded on a recognition that our
695. 44:36rights are pre-political and every human being who has ever existed at any time, place, or
696. 44:41culture has the same rights that God gave them, the same inherent dignity and value and
697. 44:46worth, and the same mission to have a family, to be part of a church, to come into a saving
698. 44:53knowledge of Jesus Christ, and have the freedom and liberty that is protected by their civil
699. 44:58government to pursue the things of God.
700. 45:00The American dream is inextricably intertwined with the truth of God.
701. 45:06And if we are conserving the American experiment, then what we absolutely are doing is preserving
702. 45:13and protecting the biblical worldview that is timeless.
703. 45:17You say this plainly, now I'm not going to read the whole piece on the air because everybody
704. 45:21needs to go to AFN.net and get this piece, read it, share it with your friends, Jeff, please
705. 45:26put it in the show notes so that people can circulate this.
706. 45:29I mean, you say it plainly, quote, the future of conservatism will not be secured by reliving
707. 45:341776 or 1980. It will be secured by returning to the God-ordained institutions that existed
708. 45:40long before America and will outlast every political cycle you go on to say in mentioning
709. 45:46a revitalized church, preaching the truth without fear, strong families capable with standing
710. 45:50cultural collapse, legitimate civil government that protects life, liberty and property,
711. 45:55that these aren't old-fashioned ideas. They're the only framework strong enough to rebuild
712. 46:01a free society. Jenna, you were in the kitchen with your chefs at all because you were cooking.
713. 46:07You know, which is exactly where a woman should be, right? Because I'm baking my Christmas cookies
714. 46:12tonight, in fact. So I love it. And we can say that because I love the God ordained traditional
715. 46:19rules, right? Like women, I want to be a wife and a mother someday. And so if you're listening
716. 46:23and you have a recommendation, Abe is accepting applications for vetting for my future husband.
717. 46:28And so just putting that out there.
718. 46:29But this is so true that it's like we have this conception
719. 46:34as patriotic Americans that somehow this notion
720. 46:39of pre-political rights and everything about America
721. 46:42began in 1776 and these were new ideas.
722. 46:46Well, now our founders understood these principles
723. 46:49from the Bible.
724. 46:50They understood them from generations passing
725. 46:53in the history and tradition of the law,
726. 46:55of understanding how civil governments rose and fell
727. 46:58throughout history and what they had come from,
728. 47:01from England that didn't protect religious liberty.
729. 47:03I mean, all of these things,
730. 47:05this wasn't some brand new idea that spawned the greatest
731. 47:09nation that has ever existed on the face of the earth.
732. 47:11It was a recognition of the truth of God
733. 47:15and his view of what a moral and upright society
734. 47:20that is truly fashioned in liberty actually means
735. 47:24and what it provides for the family and the church,
736. 47:28which is protection ultimately to raise our children
737. 47:31in the fear and admonition of the Lord
738. 47:33and to worship God freely and do exactly what we're doing
739. 47:35right now, Abe, which is speaking together
740. 47:38about truth and the things of God,
741. 47:40which is exercising our first freedoms,
742. 47:42freedom of speech, freedom of association,
743. 47:44free exercise of religion,
744. 47:45and also freedom of the press,
745. 47:46because hey, we're in a radio network.
746. 47:48Absolutely.
747. 47:49I'll give you one more,
748. 47:51because these quotes are just so profound.
749. 47:53You wrote, quote, the left builds institutions intended to replace God's authority.
750. 47:59Conservatives must stop trying to conserve those.
751. 48:02Our mission is not to protect the status quo, but to protect the eternal order.
752. 48:08End quote.
753. 48:08That is, is spot on because as you, as I read that, I immediately thought the
754. 48:14progressive movement, the progressive movement literally thought the moved to
755. 48:18entrying institutions to rip our nation away from God's authority.
756. 48:23and to supplant God's authority with man-made, and I would argue, an insufficient replacement
757. 48:29for God's authority, I think you rightly diagnosed that in the piece.
758. 48:33Yeah, and the right is just as guilty of holding up institutions as if they are the final authority,
759. 48:40like saying, as long as we have a Christian president, then anything that he does, or a Republican
760. 48:47president, even anything he does is without being subject to criticism. And no, the president
761. 48:53actually is a man-made institution because the Bible does not require a president, the
762. 48:58Bible does not require a constitutional form of government, and yet we preserve some of
763. 49:04these institutions which I think are worth preserving like the US Constitution, but it
764. 49:08has to be for the reason that they are the best expression of God's authority that ultimately
765. 49:14those institutions were founded and established and man-made because they're the best vehicle
766. 49:19to ultimately protect the eternal order and limited delegated authority that comes from
767. 49:26God himself.
768. 49:27And the moment that those institutions run afoul of God's eternal order, like what our
769. 49:32US Supreme Court is doing right now by not overturning the horrific same sex marriage decision,
770. 49:39that needs to be called out.
771. 49:40We don't just say, well, because you are the US Supreme Court, you're infallible.
772. 49:44It doesn't work like that.
773. 49:46The only institutions that are worth preserving 100% are the institutions that God ordained.
774. 49:54So well said.
775. 49:55So well said.
776. 49:56So as you are laid it out, the way forward is not harkening to nostalgia.
777. 50:03The way forward is transcendent.
778. 50:05It's eternal.
779. 50:06It's above us.
780. 50:07If we're seeking for and grappling for how do we find our footing in this, you know, the
781. 50:13torrential winds of modern society in our nation, what we need to do is grasp upward to what
782. 50:19what God has already established.
783. 50:21You mentioned them already, revitalized church, strong families, legitimate civil government.
784. 50:25How can we do exactly what you prescribe for us to do in your article?
785. 50:30By keeping God at the center instead of transforming our national religion into a worship of politics,
786. 50:39the moment that we do that and we worship a movement or we worship politics or so focused
787. 50:45on that and we lose sight of the eternal person of truth, then we get off track in so
788. 50:50many different directions. We have to keep the main thing, the main thing, which is God
789. 50:54at the center. Well said, Jenna Ellis, ladies and gentlemen, if you are not tuning in in
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795. 51:25You can carry Jenna Ellis in your pocket and tune in whenever you can. Jenna, thank you
796. 51:29so much for taking the time to hop on with me this evening.
797. 51:31Thank you, my friend. I'm going to go back to the kitchen where I belong.
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