Remembering Charlie Kirk, with Guest Host, Bishop E.W. Jackson

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11. 0:31Well, it is my pleasure to sit in for Abraham Hamilton III, dear friend of mine and great
12. 0:38talk show host.
13. 0:40I'll do my very best to do him justice and do you all justice too.
14. 0:44But as always, I'm glad to be with you.
15. 0:47Grateful to God and honored to be part of the AFR family.
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23. 1:11If you don't have a computer then or you don't do the online thing, so to speak, you'll have
24. 1:17to wait until these opportunities to substitute come along.
25. 1:21But I'm grateful to God for every one of them.
26. 1:24I'm grateful to AFR.
27. 1:26Again, folks, I don't know what this country would do
28. 1:29without American family radio.
29. 1:33Praise God for what is happening right now
30. 1:36with, as a result, sadly, as a result of the sad and tragic
31. 1:43death of Charlie Kirk by assassination.
32. 1:46But I am thrilled with what is happening right now
33. 1:49because it really does seem to be an explosion
34. 1:53of expressions of faith in Jesus Christ.
35. 1:57I heard JD Vance say,
36. 1:58I don't talk about my religion,
37. 2:00I've talked more about it in the last couple of days,
38. 2:03and I was really glad to hear that,
39. 2:05but you know that's interesting
40. 2:06because the word of God says we're supposed to talk about it.
41. 2:09The word of God says we're supposed to speak of Jesus
42. 2:15every opportunity we have.
43. 2:17We're supposed to be telling the whole world about him,
44. 2:20But this horrible act by this nefarious leftist who decided that he was going to do
45. 2:31something about the voice of Charlie Kirk seems to have awakened many in the
46. 2:36church who were either asleep or silent and I'm glad to hear that but I will add
47. 2:44this. AFR was here before this terrible incident. AFR will be here after this
48. 2:51terrible incident and we will be a persistent and consistent and persevering voice for the
49. 2:59truth of God's word. And I really am grateful to God for that. I mean, I'm glad for the result
50. 3:08of this, not glad for what's happened, obviously, because this was a terribly evil act. But I'm
51. 3:14I'm certainly glad for the response that we are seeing.
52. 3:19But I'll tell you something, folks.
53. 3:22AFR has been at this, and American Family Association
54. 3:24has been at this for a long, long time,
55. 3:27laying the groundwork, sewing the seeds for people
56. 3:31like Charlie Kirk, who can find a ground that's
57. 3:38been plowed in many ways, many of the kids who I'm sure
58. 3:42followed him, they might not have been listening to AFR, but I guarantee you, many of their
59. 3:49parents have, many of their grandparents have. And probably the seeds of faith were sewn
60. 3:56into many of them. They caught up in that secular world and in the godlessness of Akadim
61. 4:02and sort of forgot where they really came from. But one plants another waters and God gives
62. 4:10the increase. And so, AFR has been planting and watering for a long, long, long time. And
63. 4:17I, folks, I just can't say how grateful to God I am for that. Because I really believe
64. 4:23in a very spiritual sense that without an AFR, without an American Family Association, there
65. 4:31couldn't be a turning point USA. Without a brother Don Weillman, there wouldn't have been
66. 4:39Charlie Kirk or an E.W. Jackson or an Abraham Hamilton III or at least that you would know
67. 4:45about because he laid the groundwork for the work that so many of us are doing right now.
68. 4:52So praise God for that.
69. 4:55And now let me get into this then because like all of you, I was shocked when I first
70. 5:02heard the news.
71. 5:04I think I said this to you before, folks.
72. 5:05When I first heard the news of the assassination,
73. 5:09my brain really wouldn't process it.
74. 5:12And I think that may be the first time
75. 5:13I've had that experience where I just couldn't wrap my head
76. 5:18around that being true.
77. 5:20And so I was in a staff meeting.
78. 5:22One of my staff members said,
79. 5:25I just heard Charlie Kirk was shot and he's dead.
80. 5:30And my response was, are you kidding?
81. 5:33Now knowing the person who said this wouldn't joke like that,
82. 5:36But I just didn't know how to respond.
83. 5:40And then when they came back, knowing this is a serious person,
84. 5:43and I got a joke like that, I think
85. 5:45I just froze for a few minutes.
86. 5:48And just kind of I'm trying to absorb this.
87. 5:54And I think people across the country, particularly,
88. 5:57those of us who admired his work, admired what he was doing,
89. 6:03admired particularly, because turning point was not
90. 6:07started as a faith organization, turning point USA faith, was then then became the
91. 6:12kind of the faith arm and expression of Charlie Kirk's, what became ultimately
92. 6:18his primary mission, which was sharing the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ
93. 6:24with people and using politics really as a vehicle to do that. That's what ultimately,
94. 6:30that's what his organizational genius ultimately became.
95. 6:36It became a vehicle for the gospel of Jesus Christ,
96. 6:39which came up constantly.
97. 6:40I'm sure you all saw that video of this person
98. 6:43dressed in this satanic outfit coming up
99. 6:46and muttering all of these, I guess,
100. 6:48that's supposed to be incantations or spells or whatever,
101. 6:52and Charlie Kirk said to him,
102. 6:54I repudiate that spirit in the name of Jesus.
103. 6:57And then as he walked away, he said,
104. 6:59Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life.
105. 7:04Now, I don't hear any of the mainstream,
106. 7:11lame stream, leftist media acknowledging any of this.
107. 7:17I really don't.
108. 7:19And they're putting these people on,
109. 7:20like Jasmine Crockett and AOC and quoting them
110. 7:25and quoting some of these other people.
111. 7:28And by the way, I'm sure you know,
112. 7:30I have a list of them folks, lots of them, who have been suspended or fired from their
113. 7:36jobs.
114. 7:37Apparently Jimmy Kimmel is coming back.
115. 7:38It will be interesting to see what he's got to say with his sorry self.
116. 7:43Many of them.
117. 7:44And these are in some cases doctors and nurses and college professors that shouldn't surprise
118. 7:51us.
119. 7:52But people in presumably responsible positions, presumably responsible people, at least one
120. 7:59would have thought they were publicly denouncing Charlie Kirk in an effect publicly approving
121. 8:09of his assassination.
122. 8:14Now this is monstrous.
123. 8:18You know I was thinking about this today folks.
124. 8:22And this was the thought that I had.
125. 8:26If you are willing to celebrate an assassination, you are willing to participate in an assassination.
126. 8:35Me, right? If you're willing to celebrate an assassination, surely you're willing to participate
127. 8:43in an assassination. You think what's been done is a good thing. If you consider yourself
128. 8:49a good person and you think that killing someone was a good thing, then presumably you yourself
129. 8:56would be willing to do that good thing as you see it. What does that say about the people
130. 9:03who are reveling in Charlie Kirk's death.
131. 9:07You know what it says to me?
132. 9:08It says to me, these people are deeply evil, deeply evil.
133. 9:13And I mean, we use that word to talk about people's
134. 9:18ideological perspective and their perspective as evil,
135. 9:21but when somebody literally figuratively,
136. 9:24perhaps better said, dances on the grave
137. 9:30of someone who has been brutally
138. 9:32and in cold blood, gun down for nothing more than speaking his mind.
139. 9:43And for you to celebrate that and think that that is a good thing,
140. 9:48it really says something very, very dark and very wicked about the people who do that.
141. 9:58And I'll tell you, Erica Kirk just really, she really established what the Christian
142. 10:12faith is all about because she in yesterday's memorial said, I forgive Tyler Robinson.
143. 10:20I forgive him.
144. 10:23Now we're commanded to do that.
145. 10:24You know, it's not a suggestion.
146. 10:26Jesus doesn't say, well, you know, then think about it and sort of work through it.
147. 10:32And if you really feel like, if you forgive the person,
148. 10:35no, no, it is a command from the Lord advocate general,
149. 10:40the church, the chief shepherd of the flock,
150. 10:44the king of kings and the Lord of lords,
151. 10:47who says, if you do not forgive, neither will your Father
152. 10:52in heaven forgive you.
153. 10:53Now, folks, I don't want any of that.
154. 10:57And so I forgive.
155. 11:00I'm not holding anything against anybody.
156. 11:04Now mind you, I always have to make this distinction
157. 11:08because I think sometimes it gets confused.
158. 11:11There's a difference between forgiving and trusting.
159. 11:15Because I forgive someone, doesn't mean I trust them.
160. 11:19And there's a difference between forgiving someone
161. 11:22and absolving them of the just desserts,
162. 11:27what they deserve for what they've done.
163. 11:30And so I joined her in forgiving Tyler Robinson.
164. 11:33He has done a terrible thing,
165. 11:36but that doesn't mean that the man should not be
166. 11:39incarcerated for the rest of his life or executed.
167. 11:45And those punishments should be carried out.
168. 11:47Whatever the jury decides, the judge decides,
169. 11:49but those punishments should be carried out.
170. 11:53Notwithstanding anyone's personal forgiveness.
171. 11:57So personal forgiveness doesn't mean
172. 11:59you trust the person you've forgiven A,
173. 12:01or that even you want a relationship with the person
174. 12:03you've forgiven.
175. 12:04All it means is you're not gonna seek vengeance.
176. 12:07You don't want anything bad to happen to that person.
177. 12:10I mean, you know, out of the norm of what do process demands
178. 12:14when a person is done a thing like this.
179. 12:16But you know, you're not saying,
180. 12:17well, I hope he gets cancer,
181. 12:18I hope he keels over and dies of a heart attack or whatever.
182. 12:22You just, you don't think that way
183. 12:23because forgiveness means you recognize as a human being,
184. 12:27He is potentially redeemable.
185. 12:29God loves him, wants to redeem him, and if he will repent of his sins, in spite of the
186. 12:35fact he has to pay here on earth, he can end up in heaven.
187. 12:39And you would want that for him, because you'd want that for any human being.
188. 12:43God's not willing that any should perish.
189. 12:45The worst of the worst of the worst, but that all should come to life.
190. 12:50So she's forgiven him.
191. 12:53I'm dressed that with the way people are talking about Charlie Kirk.
192. 12:58Now look, she's forgiven this man and we know what he did, right?
193. 13:01He went up on a roof, took a bolt action rifle, and blew Charlie Kirk's throat out.
194. 13:08And as I've said before, I think he was dead instantly.
195. 13:10I saw the film, I wish I hadn't seen it, frankly, but I did see it, saw the video, and I think
196. 13:17he was dead instantly.
197. 13:19She said when she saw him, he had a smile on his face because I think he was immediately
198. 13:24translated into the presence of the Lord. But think about our expression of love and
199. 13:31forgiveness for those who would do something as horrible as killing our husband that way.
200. 13:38And think of the expressions of hatred that we've heard coming down from the Democrat
201. 13:43party and people on the left who wouldn't even vote for resolution. That was really, it was
202. 13:48not a political resolution at all. I mean, condemning political violence, who doesn't want
203. 13:53to do that. I mean, that's essentially what it was doing. I have the wording of it in front
204. 14:00of me, but I mean, it was not it was not an endorsement of Charlie Kirk's politics. And yet,
205. 14:09and yet, after what was done to him, the people who witnessed that are still many of them are
206. 14:21still spewing hatred toward him. Got to pray for our country folks. This is Bishop E. W. Jackson
207. 14:28in for Abraham Hamilton III back in the morning.
208. 15:00A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker.
209. 15:04First Samuel chapter 17, verses 50 and 51.
210. 15:08So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling
211. 15:11and with a stone and struck the Philistine and killed him.
212. 15:15There was no sword in the hand of David.
213. 15:17Then David ran and stood over the Philistine
214. 15:19and took his sword and drew it out of its sheath
215. 15:22and killed him and cut off his head with it.
216. 15:25When the Philistines saw that their champion was dead,
217. 15:28they bled. Every disciple of Jesus Christ would be wise to strive to become a kingdom warrior.
218. 15:35I would define a kingdom warrior as a disciple of Christ who wisely and skillfully puts the
219. 15:40word of God, the sword of the Spirit to work every day. All people everywhere are facing
220. 15:46intense spiritual warfare facing at home, at school, at work, in public every day. We
221. 15:54seat in the news in our government, in our culture, and all across the world.
222. 16:05Shining light into the darkness. This is the Hamilton Corner, an American family radio.
223. 16:13So this is about, I mean, it's very, very honorable, but it's innocuous. I mean, it doesn't, in the sense
224. 16:23that, talking about the resolution, it doesn't agree with Charlie Kirk's politics. It doesn't say
225. 16:30that everything Charlie Kirk says was right and everybody who signs off on this
226. 16:36agrees with that. I mean here's two key aspects of the resolution it says,
227. 16:42whereas leaders at every level, government, education, media, and beyond,
228. 16:46must stand united in unequivocal to condemnation of political violence,
229. 16:50regardless of their ideology. Then it goes on to say, whereas the tragic loss of
230. 16:58Charlie Kirk must not be allowed to deepen the divides in our nation, but instead serve
231. 17:02as a turning point to recommit ourselves to better angels and to the timeless American
232. 17:08principles of liberty, governed by truth, and the virtues of peaceful dialogue."
233. 17:14Now, folks, Jasmine Crockett went on a rant about the fact that there were some Democrats
234. 17:26who voted present.
235. 17:27They didn't oppose it.
236. 17:28They voted present.
237. 17:29I think she said, and I just caught this in passing, but I think she said only two of the
238. 17:37people who voted for it were Caucasians, her word Caucasians.
239. 17:43So she's turned us now into a racial issue.
240. 17:47So somehow if you didn't oppose it and you were Caucasian, I guess, as she would put it,
241. 17:59are somehow you are racist. Now, folks, I just want to say, I've really lost patience with
242. 18:08this. I really have, because I have not heard a single person. And by the way, and I have
243. 18:14no use for the for the mainstream media, because you would, it would seem to me, if you are
244. 18:21a reporter, and you have even a centilla of intellectual curiosity. When a person says he
245. 18:30He was a racist or he is a racist or whatever, however they put it, you would say, what did
246. 18:37he say?
247. 18:38What did Charlie Kirk say or do that convince you of this?
248. 18:44And then wait for the answer because now I want to know you called him a racist, you called
249. 18:49him a fascist, okay?
250. 18:50You obviously have some evidence to point to.
251. 18:54I never hear a single bit, not a shred of any evidence that anybody ever offers up to say,
252. 19:04here's why I say that.
253. 19:08Because folks, if they did that, I could at least say, okay, all right, now we can discuss
254. 19:12now.
255. 19:13We have something to talk about.
256. 19:16But when you have nothing to offer other than just to call the man names, other than just
257. 19:23labels that you can just pull out of nowhere, just pull out of thin air.
258. 19:28I mean, I've lost patience with that.
259. 19:30I really have.
260. 19:31I just have no use for people who do this because really what they are is their demagogues.
261. 19:40That's it.
262. 19:41They are demagogues.
263. 19:44And their demagogues are always filled with hate because they're demagoguing something or
264. 19:49someone usually that they want others to hate with them.
265. 19:53I mean, Hitler was a demagogue against the Jewish people.
266. 19:57These people are demagogues now against Charlie Kirk and frankly, not to put too fine a point
267. 20:04on it, but they're demagogues against anybody who they believe disagrees with their ideological,
268. 20:11not craziness.
269. 20:13And thirdly, they're demagogues against white people.
270. 20:17I mean, you just have to say it, folks, because that's the truth of the matter.
271. 20:22They have decided that they're going to villainize white people and turn them into the monster,
272. 20:27the boogeyman, at every turn.
273. 20:30Like I said, Charlie Kirk was clearly the worst of the worst in terms of his demographic
274. 20:35category because on three counts, first he's white, then he's a man, and then on top of that,
275. 20:45he's a Christian.
276. 20:48So I mean, this guy's the tritecta.
277. 20:52You couldn't find a better person to hate from their perspective.
278. 20:56It's like what I said at the top of the hour, folks, is really that these people are deeply
279. 21:06wicked.
280. 21:07I mean, deeply wicked.
281. 21:09It is profound.
282. 21:10I mean, you know, I was looking through my Twitter feed.
283. 21:16I do have a Twitter account, by the way, if you or somebody who follows Twitter.
284. 21:21And I was looking for something else, and I got fairly deep into it, and I found a tweet
285. 21:31that I wrote when Ruth Bader Ginsburg died.
286. 21:38And I looked back on that, looked at that, and went, wow, you know what?
287. 21:43Man, thank you, Lord, that I'm a Christian.
288. 21:48In fact, I found a couple of them.
289. 21:50Here's one about Joe Biden.
290. 21:51This was back in May.
291. 21:52as a Christian I am praying for former President Joe Biden
292. 21:56because he is a fellow human being and a fellow American,
293. 22:00I would not wish cancer on anyone may God heal him.
294. 22:05Now I don't like Joe Biden,
295. 22:07I don't like anything Joe Biden stands for.
296. 22:10But I'm a Christian, I'm a human being,
297. 22:14and I'm not wishing cancer on Joe Biden
298. 22:18because I disagree with him.
299. 22:20You know what I was praying for Joe Biden
300. 22:22while he was in office, I was praying
301. 22:24that God would change his heart A,
302. 22:26and B, get him out of office.
303. 22:28You know, so that he would not be able to inflict on us
304. 22:32the madness that he was clearly inflicting on the country
305. 22:35that was hurting us economically, hurting us socially,
306. 22:37hurting us politically, hurting in terms of crime
307. 22:41and safety and security.
308. 22:43I mean, he was just hurting us on all kinds of bases.
309. 22:48I hate it everything he was doing,
310. 22:52but I didn't then and don't now hate him.
311. 22:57Because you know, the truth of the matter is, folks,
312. 22:59we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
313. 23:02but against principalities, against powers,
314. 23:04against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
315. 23:07against spiritual hosts of wickedness in high places.
316. 23:10And the answer is not to demagogue against a particular group
317. 23:16of people or to villainize a particular group of people
318. 23:18based on race or gender or whatever,
319. 23:21the key is put on the whole armor of God
320. 23:24that we may be able to stand against the wilds,
321. 23:27strategies, the lying and deception of the devil and having done all to stand.
322. 23:34That's the key.
323. 23:37Then you look at human beings as human beings, knowing they all have fleet of clay, they all
324. 23:43are subject to being deceived by the devil, particularly if they have not given their lives
325. 23:48to God, they're really just a walking billboard for the devil, even if it's not obvious.
326. 23:57Now, fortunately in our country, I've talked about my dad a lot.
327. 24:02I say, when my dad took me out of foster care, took me to live with him, he was not saved.
328. 24:08But he was so imbued with Judeo-Christian principles that were predominant in the culture that a
329. 24:14lot of what he taught me, he would have taught me the same thing if he had been saved.
330. 24:19He got saved later in life.
331. 24:20He would have taught me the same thing if he had been saved, taught me respect for God,
332. 24:25you know, that we all have to answer to God.
333. 24:27Our father wasn't, he wasn't a born-again believer,
334. 24:30but he used to say that, you know, everybody's gonna,
335. 24:31we're gonna all have to answer to God.
336. 24:36You know, but we've got people now
337. 24:41who are basically trying to wrench from our culture
338. 24:47that Judeo-Christian perspective
339. 24:51so that we live in a world where anything goes.
340. 24:57You know, in a Marxist world,
341. 24:59it is not the heart of the person
342. 25:02that is responsible for anything, it is the mechanism that allows them to do a certain thing.
343. 25:08So for example, it is not the person who kills who is responsible, it is the availability of
344. 25:17the gun that makes that is responsible.
345. 25:22It is not the person who steals it is responsible, it is the maldistribution of economic wealth
346. 25:29and power that makes it necessary for the person to steal.
347. 25:33That is what's responsible.
348. 25:35Human beings are not responsible for their own actions.
349. 25:39See, that's a Marxist worldview.
350. 25:41A biblical worldview says,
351. 25:44you will answer for every deed and every word that you speak.
352. 25:52Well, no, wait a minute, Lord, you can't hold me responsible
353. 25:54because you don't understand where I came from.
354. 25:58Oh, yes, God understands all that.
355. 26:02But he also knows that we have prudential will,
356. 26:08that we can make our own decisions,
357. 26:13regardless of what the influences are around us.
358. 26:18And when people choose to just go with the flow,
359. 26:24go with whatever all their buddies are saying,
360. 26:26go with everybody, in other words,
361. 26:29when they choose to engage in mob behavior.
362. 26:34Everybody else is doing it, me too.
363. 26:37They're gonna find out that when accountability time comes,
364. 26:41the mob won't be there.
365. 26:44You're going to be all by yourself.
366. 26:50But again, we're dealing with people,
367. 26:52very obviously, who have no fear of God
368. 26:55and no sense of accountability to God.
369. 26:57And man, it's chilling.
370. 27:03It really is.
371. 27:05Because, and Jesus said this, he said that they will come
372. 27:07when they will kill you and say that they've done God's service.
373. 27:11No word say that, I did something good.
374. 27:15And we'll have people around them saying,
375. 27:17oh yeah, you did something good.
376. 27:18You got rid of a fascist.
377. 27:21How is he fascist?
378. 27:24Duh.
379. 27:26I mean, again, you ask these people to define what fascism is.
380. 27:32they don't have a clue.
381. 27:34They really don't.
382. 27:37And if you tell most of them that fascism is really nothing more
383. 27:42than the flip coin of communism,
384. 27:44because Mussolini is considered to be the inventor of fascism,
385. 27:47and Mussolini was a communist.
386. 27:50And fascism was simply communism, a totalitarian state,
387. 27:54with hyper-nationalism.
388. 27:56In other words, communism posits the people,
389. 27:59the proletariat, rule the nation,
390. 28:02And then ultimately the whole world is under communism
391. 28:05and you won't even have a need for the nation state,
392. 28:07you know, this utopian nonsense.
393. 28:10But fascism says no,
394. 28:15our nation and this particular leader should rule the world.
395. 28:23The world should bow to us because we are superior,
396. 28:27we know better.
397. 28:30Communism says the proletariat owns everything.
398. 28:33Fascism says in effect,
399. 28:35No, no, no, no, no, no.
400. 28:36No.
401. 28:37Everybody get on what they want to own.
402. 28:39But you better believe that the real owner is the dictator,
403. 28:44who can tell people to do whatever he wants them to do.
404. 28:48So the property really is in effect.
405. 28:50As I said, it's just like the ancient monarchies,
406. 28:53where, yeah, you could have land,
407. 28:55and you could have the state,
408. 28:56as long as you were in the king's favor.
409. 28:58And when you fell out of favor,
410. 29:00he could take everything you had,
411. 29:04including your life, on word.
412. 29:10So these people are pointing the finger at Charlie Kirk,
413. 29:14President Trump, and people like you and me
414. 29:17and calling us Nazis and fascists,
415. 29:19and little do they know,
416. 29:20because they're so self-deceived,
417. 29:23that if they wanna see what that really looks like,
418. 29:25take a good, hard look in the mirror
419. 29:29at their own thoughts and behavior,
420. 29:32at what they are trying to accomplish.
421. 29:36So let me say something about it.
422. 29:39By the way, when we come back after this break,
423. 29:41want to take your calls about this or anything else.
424. 29:44There is some other news.
425. 29:45I mean, the president did a big press
426. 29:47conference today on autism.
427. 29:48And that's a very important issue, folks.
428. 29:50My wife and I have a school at our church, the maximum
429. 29:53potential Christian Academy.
430. 29:54She runs the school.
431. 29:57And we've got an autistic child in our school.
432. 29:59And everywhere I go, I see autistic children these days.
433. 30:04And I think the president is right.
434. 30:05The numbers of autism has increased so significantly
435. 30:09that we have got to take a hard look at what might be causing it,
436. 30:12and they're suggesting that Tylenol could be a factor.
437. 30:16Now, I'm not a scientist, I'm not a researcher,
438. 30:18or I'm not a pharmacologist, I don't know.
439. 30:20But I'm glad that the discussion is being had,
440. 30:24because something is clearly wrong,
441. 30:26and something is clearly causing this.
442. 30:29I'll leave it to others,
443. 30:31and for them to determine and prove
444. 30:33that they put their finger on the real cause here.
445. 30:36but what we can't do is ignore this.
446. 30:39So I wanna talk about that, feel free.
447. 30:42But look, these folks like Jimmy Kimmel,
448. 30:46who make these horrible statements,
449. 30:48and then lose their jobs,
450. 30:50and then the left cries, you know,
451. 30:51Donald Trump got Jimmy Kimmel for a Donald Trump
452. 30:54didn't get Jimmy Kimmel for it.
453. 30:55Donald Trump said what he thought
454. 30:57as he always does, doesn't he?
455. 30:59I mean, that's partly why we appreciate him so much.
456. 31:02There's no dishonesty in the man.
457. 31:04I mean, he said after Erica Kirk said,
458. 31:07I forgive him, Donald Trump said,
459. 31:09that's where we disagree, I don't forgive him.
460. 31:11I hate the people who hate me.
461. 31:13Now the president's wrong about that.
462. 31:16I mean, he's just flat out wrong about that.
463. 31:19But I'll tell you what,
464. 31:20you don't have any question about where he stands, do you?
465. 31:24I mean, we never have to wonder how we need to pray
466. 31:27for the president because he's gonna tell you
467. 31:28exactly where he's coming from.
468. 31:31And I love that honesty, you know, it's like what Jesus said
469. 31:34about Nathaniel when Nathaniel approached him and Jesus said,
470. 31:36but hold an Israelite in whom is no guile.
471. 31:40In other words, in whom there's no deceit,
472. 31:42there's no fainting, there's no hypocrisy.
473. 31:44He is exactly who he says he is.
474. 31:48And Nathaniel said, how do you know me?
475. 31:51Well, he didn't understand he was talking to.
476. 31:54So the same is true with President Trump.
477. 31:56But I'm glad something is being done about the situation.
478. 32:01But to get back to Jimmy Kimmel, so Jimmy Kimmel,
479. 32:03is getting his job back.
480. 32:06I'm not unhappy about that,
481. 32:08but I would like to see Jimmy Kimball
482. 32:11acknowledge that what he said was wrong.
483. 32:14I'm not gonna watch him anyway, never have.
484. 32:16It still won't.
485. 32:19So folks, the numbers 888-589-8840,
486. 32:22that's 888-589-8840.
487. 32:25I'm in for Abraham Hamilton III.
488. 32:26This is E.W. Jackson.
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503. 34:03of the Christian worldview.
504. 34:06The heinous murder of Charlie Kirk has caused people all across our country to hold vigils
505. 34:11for this extraordinary young man.
506. 34:13Many in the left, however, are revealing their unmerciful hearts, expressing their glee that
507. 34:18Charlie Kirk was shot dead.
508. 34:21How to explain the celebration of evil?
509. 34:241 John 3 says, For what reason did Cain slay Abel?
510. 34:28Because his deeds were evil and his brothers were righteous.
511. 34:32who hates his brother is a murderer.
512. 34:35The murderer and those who praise him hate what is good, and unrestrained hatred leads
513. 34:40to violence and murder.
514. 34:42They are lost and need Christ to save them.
515. 34:45Here in most recent program with five observations on the murder of Trellie Kirk at the Christian
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517. 34:57Listen to the Christian worldview with David Wheaton.
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521. 35:18So this is why I am convinced folks that we are going to win the spiritual battle because
522. 35:26Righteousness is going to triumph over evil.
523. 35:30And when you had people like Erica Kirk standing up saying,
524. 35:35I forgive the man who killed my husband,
525. 35:38there is a power in that.
526. 35:40That is beyond anything the left knows anything about.
527. 35:43They can squeal and squall and curse,
528. 35:48use drop F bombs, which they at one point remember,
529. 35:51they said that's what they were gonna do.
530. 35:53They thought that was an answer.
531. 35:54They could do $20 million studies and why they can't speak to men.
532. 35:59I mean, they just on and on and on and on and on.
533. 36:02But what they're doing has no spiritual power, particularly not when there's a group of people
534. 36:09who are willing to stand up with the righteousness of God.
535. 36:13They simply cannot defeat that.
536. 36:17And so the only question is, are we going to stand up?
537. 36:20And I am hoping that what has happened, again, terribly evil act, but I'm hoping that one
538. 36:27of the good things that will come out of it will, it will activate Christians all over
539. 36:31this country who have not been voting, have not been participating in the process, have
540. 36:37not been speaking up, have not been engaged in the debate.
541. 36:41Because I've said many times, if the Christian community in America stood up together across
542. 36:46all racial and cultural lines, which is what my debt organizations dedicated to helping happen,
543. 36:51stood up together across all racial and cultural lines, just stood up for the word of God, just
544. 36:57stood up for Jesus and we're going to stand up for the righteousness of God. It would be, the battle
545. 37:02would be over. The war would be over folks. There's enough of us that we can lead this country
546. 37:09into on the path of righteousness, but not enough of us fully participate. And that's why the
547. 37:16left has been so successful.
548. 37:17888-589-8840 is the number.
549. 37:22You can, we can talk about this issue or anything else that you want to raise today is fine.
550. 37:27Let's go to the calls.
551. 37:30We've got Mike in West Virginia.
552. 37:32Mike, welcome.
553. 37:33Thank you for taking my call.
554. 37:36It's nice for calling, Mike.
555. 37:39What's on your mind today?
556. 37:40The murder of Charlie Kirk, the whole Jimmy Kimmel thing, what percentage of the people
557. 37:53and this country need to be committed to a mental institution?"
558. 38:01Well, Mike, you raise a good question, and thank you for the call, thank you for the question.
559. 38:09This is the distinction I always make.
560. 38:11Generally speaking, mental illness does involve people disconnecting from reality and believing
561. 38:18things that simply are demonstrably untrue, factually, physically untrue.
562. 38:24for example, a person believing they can jump off a building and wave their
563. 38:28flap their hands, flap their arms and fly. Well that's
564. 38:32that's insane. That's mental illness. And yet there are people
565. 38:36who actually are seeing things that are not there, hearing things that are not
566. 38:40there. I think what we're dealing with though
567. 38:44is not so much mental illness that people can't function physically in the
568. 38:48world at large but moral illness. People have
569. 38:54disconnected from moral truths. They disconnected from moral reality. And in doing so, they are in
570. 39:02many ways insane, but they can still function. They can still go to work. They can still count their
571. 39:07money. They can still pay their bills. But they are morally insane in a sense. And when you,
572. 39:12for example, when you say that it's okay to inject a developing young child with hormones
573. 39:21to block that child's puberty.
574. 39:24In other words, to emasculate that child if it's a boy.
575. 39:28And then when that child gets older,
576. 39:30you can actually surgically remove that child's sexual organs
577. 39:35or remove a young lady's breasts.
578. 39:37And you think this is a good thing.
579. 39:39You're doing that great.
580. 39:40That's moral insanity.
581. 39:44You may be able to go to work,
582. 39:45you may be able to drive a car,
583. 39:47but you are morally insane.
584. 39:52Thanks for the call, Mike. Let's go to Kathy in Georgia. Kathy, welcome.
585. 39:59Thank you for taking my call, Bishop. So good to hear you on the radio.
586. 40:02Well, thank you. I was telling the man a few years ago when you were coming on the air,
587. 40:08daily, you said you were reading a book about Antifa. What was the name of it? And it was all
588. 40:16this talk about some lately I thought about you were saying that you had read this book. Do you
589. 40:21You remember the title of it?
590. 40:23And who voted?
591. 40:24You know what?
592. 40:24I don't, but I'll tell you one.
593. 40:26The next break, I'll try to find it.
594. 40:28It's been a few years since I read that book,
595. 40:30but you're right.
596. 40:30I read a book that described how Antifa started.
597. 40:35You know, all the stuff that we see in Portland and Seattle,
598. 40:38that's Portland is really where they got their start,
599. 40:41that it really is a communist-slash-fascist group
600. 40:46because they actually believe in using violence
601. 40:50to accomplish their political ends.
602. 40:53And the president, by the way, is right
603. 40:54to have declared them a terrorist organization
604. 40:57because they really do espouse openly espouse violence
605. 41:02against their political opponents.
606. 41:04I don't know if I can find it,
607. 41:07but I'm gonna try to find it during the break, Cathy.
608. 41:10But listen, thank you so much for the call,
609. 41:13and it's great to be on.
610. 41:15Let's go to Ronnie.
611. 41:17And Ronnie's in Alabama, I believe.
612. 41:19Ronnie, welcome.
613. 41:21Thank you Bishop.
614. 41:25Well first I wanna say that
615. 41:27Brother Abraham and yourself,
616. 41:29I consider y'all both national treasures,
617. 41:32y'all are much needed in this country.
618. 41:35But I wanted to comment on the Marxist influence,
619. 41:39you know, in our education system.
620. 41:42Now, Brother Abraham, one day last week,
621. 41:46brought up a communist manifesto,
622. 41:49and he was speaking about how violence
623. 41:52that marks this tactic, which is very true.
624. 41:58But not only that, there are many, many other tactics
625. 42:02that Karl Marx wrote about,
626. 42:04and every one of them are being utilized in our nation
627. 42:09and have been utilized for years and years.
628. 42:13So I think it'd be a good idea
629. 42:15if somebody could go to these college campuses
630. 42:18in our churches, in our Christian schools,
631. 42:23and start teaching our young people
632. 42:26about Karl Marx's communist manifesto.
633. 42:30Hey, Ronnie, thank you so much for the call, brother.
634. 42:34I'll tell you, man, you could not be more right.
635. 42:38Our people and our young people particularly
636. 42:41are ideologically ignorant.
637. 42:43They really are.
638. 42:45And they throw around terms like socialism
639. 42:47because they don't have a clue what they're really talking about.
640. 42:50Just like they don't have a clue what they're talking about when they talk about fascism.
641. 42:53So you're right, we really need to educate people and then help them understand what these
642. 42:59ideologies have wrought.
643. 43:00In other words, not just do what these leftists do.
644. 43:04That's a bad thing.
645. 43:06Okay, why is it bad?
646. 43:08Let me explain to you then, explain to these kids.
647. 43:11Let me explain to you what communism produces.
648. 43:16Look, capitalism is not perfect.
649. 43:18We all know that because I really believe the only perfect system
650. 43:23we're ever going to live in is heaven.
651. 43:26And on earth until the kingdom of God comes into its fullness,
652. 43:30everything is flawed.
653. 43:31Now, this has been attributed to Churchill,
654. 43:34and I think it was Winston Churchill who said it,
655. 43:36but he said, I think he said, capitalism is the worst system
656. 43:40in the world, except for all the others.
657. 43:44And so if we know it's not perfect,
658. 43:46but it is the very best, fairest, most equitable means of distributing goods and resources because
659. 43:54it leaves people free to work where they want, to spend what they want, to engage in whatever
660. 44:01transactions they want, to invent what they want, and to maintain the property and the
661. 44:07rights to whatever they invent, whatever they create.
662. 44:10And so, yeah, everybody's not going to be a millionaire or a billionaire, that's true.
663. 44:16But it leaves open the door for everybody to live with a level of prosperity and comfort
664. 44:24that the world had never saw in ordinary people before.
665. 44:28So and our young people don't understand that.
666. 44:31We use these polls now that show among young people, a majority in some of these age groups,
667. 44:39with socialism over capitalism, that is sheer ignorance.
668. 44:44If they knew what they were talking about,
669. 44:45they wouldn't think that way.
670. 44:46So you were absolutely right.
671. 44:49We're gonna do that in the maximum potential
672. 44:50Christian Academy.
673. 44:51We're gonna teach our young people these different ideologies
674. 44:56that have tended to govern various countries of the world
675. 44:59and what they produced.
676. 45:01So, brother, I could not agree with that more.
677. 45:05Let's go back to the calls.
678. 45:07Let's go to Doug in Georgia.
679. 45:09Doug, welcome.
680. 45:11Good afternoon, Bishop.
681. 45:13It is great to hear your voice again.
682. 45:15Thank you, Doug.
683. 45:16I have a question.
684. 45:18Your welcomes are since President Trump
685. 45:20is term limited after this term.
686. 45:23Who do you think is the next best hope to carry the banner
687. 45:27of the Republican Party after this?
688. 45:30Wow, Doug.
689. 45:31That is a great question.
690. 45:34And thank you for the call.
691. 45:36And thanks for the encouraging words.
692. 45:38I always appreciate hearing from you all.
693. 45:40Look, I don't know yet.
694. 45:46I don't know yet.
695. 45:49And I think it's going to take a little bit more time to see.
696. 45:54I have to tell you that everybody around the president right now, I have some good feelings
697. 46:04about and some reservations about.
698. 46:06I got good feelings about JD Vance.
699. 46:09Got some reservations about JD Vance.
700. 46:11Got some good feelings about Marco Rubio.
701. 46:16Some reservations about Marco Rubio.
702. 46:18So, you know, I think we'll just have to see
703. 46:22and watch these various leaders around the president
704. 46:27how they conduct themselves.
705. 46:30Let me also add this, folks,
706. 46:34there's not gonna be another Donald Trump.
707. 46:36So I mean, we just might as well settle in on that one.
708. 46:41I mean, each of us is unique in God.
709. 46:43Each of us brings our own perspective and abilities
710. 46:47and talents and all of that.
711. 46:50What Donald Trump is probably unique among the unique,
712. 46:55he is just something else.
713. 46:57He really is.
714. 47:00And so I think if we're looking for Donald Trump,
715. 47:03we're gonna probably all be disappointed.
716. 47:05I think we've got to look for somebody who's got the courage and the conviction to follow
717. 47:09through on the policies that the president implemented.
718. 47:14And I'm not sure who that person.
719. 47:15Oh, Rick DeSantis.
720. 47:16I've got some good feelings about Rick DeSantis and some reservations about Rick DeSantis, particularly
721. 47:21based on the last campaign.
722. 47:23So, I think it remains to be seen.
723. 47:25But those are three people, obviously, that I think are in the mix.
724. 47:29Thanks for the call, Doug.
725. 47:30Let's go to Bruce in Arkansas.
726. 47:34Bruce, welcome.
727. 47:35Hey, good afternoon, Bishop.
728. 47:37Good to hear you again.
729. 47:38Thank you, Bruce.
730. 47:39Hey, and you're commenting about Donald Trump.
731. 47:42So I'm in my mid-70s, and I've been around long enough
732. 47:45to kind of see a lot of this up until Obama, when you know,
733. 47:50I kind of had, I think I, in a lot of the country,
734. 47:53you felt like we were kind of basically a good country
735. 47:55and everybody was gonna do the right thing.
736. 47:58But that crew, they just led the country over the cliff
737. 48:02in terms of turning their back on morality and biblical worldview.
738. 48:06And I think the wonderful thing about Donald Trump is he draws them out and makes them expose
739. 48:10themselves and it just stays crazy.
740. 48:13But it also is easy to see that when the rapture comes, anybody who has a biblical Christian
741. 48:22perspective and moral view is going to be gone and it's very easy now to see what kind of
742. 48:27of a horrific world it's going to be in the absence of a
743. 48:31by a spiritual Christian. What you're thinking about that?
744. 48:35Well, Bruce, I think that is a very powerful spiritual point.
745. 48:39Thank you for the call, my friend. I think that is a very
746. 48:41powerful spiritual point. And I think, you know, that's when
747. 48:44America no longer is America, because everybody said earlier
748. 48:49today, part of what the assassination of Charlie Kirk is
749. 48:53done is to make all of us, those of us who knew it already
750. 48:57reminds us those who didn't maybe make them rethinking Christianity is the foundation of American culture.
751. 49:04I mean it really is. It's the foundation of Western civilization. And without Christianity,
752. 49:11you can't have the kind of civilization that we have. And you're right, when Christians are gone,
753. 49:17when the Holy Spirit withdraws his influence, his restraining influence on evil. Think about this,
754. 49:22The Holy Spirit is actually restraining evil in the world today.
755. 49:26When he ceases to do that, you're right.
756. 49:31I cannot imagine what is going to happen, but America will not be the America we know it
757. 49:39to be today.
758. 49:41I am almost out of time.
759. 49:43In fact, I am out of time.
760. 49:46I was going to try to squeeze you in there, Chris.
761. 49:49I'll be back again tomorrow, by the way, folks, sitting in for Abraham Hamilton the
762. 49:52So please make sure to tune in.
763. 49:55Look, I just praise God for that he works all things according to the Council of His Will.
764. 50:03And in the meantime, that's exactly why you and I, no matter what happens or how horrific
765. 50:07it seems to be or terrible it seems to be, we've got to continue to stand up, step up,
766. 50:12speak up, and refuse to back up, knowing that we cannot be defeated if we will not quit
767. 50:17because we are on God's side.
768. 50:36The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American
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