February 27, 2025 · 48:48

Emeal “E.Z.” Zwayne, President of Living Waters, steps into “The Corner” for the first time.

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0:00 - 15:00. 1 Thessalonians 4:1-8. God has not called us to impurity. 15:00 - 31:00. Emeal “E.Z.” Zwayne, President of Living Waters, steps into “The Corner” for the first time. 31:00 - 48:00. In the face of the cultural dearth of biblical male leadership, E.Z. was moved by God to call each Brother to “Fight like a Man” for personal purity. or call: 800-326-4543 To donate call : 877-616-2396

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0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
0:03It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
0:07This is the Hamilton Quarter on American Family Radio.
0:11It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite.
0:15Delivery people out of the bondage of mainstream media.
0:18And the philosophies of this world.
0:20God has called you and me to be his ambassador.
0:24Even in this dark moment.
0:26Let's not miss our moment.
0:28And now the Hamilton Corner.
0:31Well, good evening, everybody.
0:34Welcome to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton.
0:36The third here, we are still here at the NRB 2025 convention,
0:43here at the beautiful Gaylord Texan Resort and Conference Center.
0:46We are on the exhibit hall floor.
0:49Once again, I see Dr. Peck, Dr. Jessica Peck is right there.
0:52I'm waving to her.
0:53She's like, hey, I don't want to interrupt your show.
0:55It's just a wonderful opportunity everybody to see everybody,
0:58see co laborers in the faith fighting a good fight and fight in their various areas all
1:03over the country geographically but also in the various areas of the expertise all over
1:07the country.
1:08I am extremely excited about today's edition of the program because we're going to have
1:14a much much much needed conversation.
1:18I'll tell you now we're going to have a guest but I won't tell you who they are just yet
1:23because I want to give you a little bit of suspense.
1:26I am eager to have this conversation today at this very moment. Many of you, if not most of you,
1:32are making your transition from your part-time jobs where you generate an income
1:35to your full-time jobs where you cultivate an outcome. And as you do so, I want to remind you
1:40to make your move with intentionality. Understand the primacy that God places on the family.
1:46We will never be able to out-politik. We'll never be able, frankly, to out-church deficiencies
1:51that abound in the home.
1:54This is why I say all the time, what goes on in your house
1:56is far more important, far more important than what goes on in the White House.
2:01And we need to have the appropriate disposition, the appropriate posture
2:04to understand that and to respond to that accordingly.
2:10Okay, this is the outside's need of the moment.
2:13I am grateful for things that are happening at the governmental level,
2:16but I'm going to tell you, in order for our nation to be the type of nation we need to be
2:21and have the type of enduring changes that must take place,
2:24it has to happen at a personal, foundational, and familial level. This is why I say all the time live
2:30locally. The call of the Lord for His bride is to make disciples. And this is what we should,
2:38and we must be overly invested in. So again, as you're making your transition from your part-time job,
2:44your income-generating capacity to your full-time jobs, please understand the primacy that God
2:49places on family. The first human institution to God established before the
2:53modern iterations of civil government, before orders of priests, before orders
2:58of prophets. The first institution to God established was the family with marriage
3:04at the center. This is not to despise it, it'd integrate other stations of life,
3:09other things that we're involved in, but we also shouldn't allow those things to
3:13to cause us to have a jaundiced view of God's primary institution.
3:20So as you're making a transition, we want to do so well.
3:23Let's turn to the word of God, to the book of 1 Thessalonians, just by way of reminder.
3:29Remember in the book of Acts when Paul made his way to Thessalonica, all right?
3:34He was only able to be there about two weeks because the locals were whipped up into a frenzy.
3:43And so as you might imagine, they had all kinds of questions because the Lord opened the hearts
3:47of believers in that area and for a church to be founded in that area.
3:53And so Paul ended up making, interacting with them because they had all kinds of questions.
3:58All right.
3:59And we have what I believe is pertinent information available to us in Paul's first Epistle to
4:04the Thessalonian believers in 1 Thessalonians chapter 4, 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 verses
4:101 through...
4:11Let me make sure I got it.
4:13One through about verse eight.
4:15First thessalonians chapter four, verses one through eight.
4:20This is what the word of God says very plainly,
4:21finally then brethren.
4:23We request that exhort you in the Lord Jesus
4:28that as you received from us instruction
4:30as to how you ought to walk and please God,
4:33just as you actually do walk,
4:36that you excel still more.
4:39For you know what commandments we gave you
4:41by the authority of the Lord Jesus.
4:43For this is the will of God, your sanctification.
4:47That is that you abstain from sexual immorality,
4:52that each of you know how to possess his own vessel
4:55in sanctification and honor, not in lustful passion.
5:00Or some translations there say, concupiscence,
5:04like the Gentiles who do not know God,
5:06and that no man transgressing defraud his brother
5:08in the matter, because the Lord is the avenger
5:11in all these things.
5:12Just as we also told you before and solemnly warned you,
5:15for God has not called us for the purpose of impurity,
5:20but in sanctification.
5:22So he who rejects this is not rejecting man,
5:26but the God who gives his Holy Spirit to you.
5:30One of the major things I want to focus on
5:32is right in verse five.
5:33For this is the will of, sorry, verse three.
5:35For this is the will of God, your sanctification.
5:38That is that you abstain from sexual immorality.
5:41As you've explained before, the Greek word for immorality there is
5:44poor Nea, where our English word pornography is derived from.
5:49What the Lord is condemning is not only the physical activity,
5:54but also the attitude and the intention of the heart
5:57that is riddled with lust.
6:01He emphasizes this even more, that each of you know,
6:04verse four, that each of you know how to possess
6:05his own vessel in satification and honor,
6:07not in lustful passion, or concupisense
6:12is what the King James says.
6:13That literally is that Greek word literally means
6:15craving or desire for what is forbidden.
6:20And then finally, again, emphasizing this point in verse seven,
6:23for God has not called us for the purpose of impurity,
6:26but in sanctification.
6:29We have talked at length on this program.
6:32I mean, the Barnard group just put out a study concerning
6:34the prevalence of pornography, that not just those
6:37who are in the world are racked with it,
6:41but in the church as well, passes as well.
6:45that this prevalent wickedness is something
6:48that we will never be able to have.
6:51Let me say it better.
6:53Without exercising self-control in this area
6:56and pursuing purity, we'll never have the type of potency
7:00we need as the body of Christ.
7:01Because this is one of the things you've heard me say,
7:03Satan does not like to contend with full-grown opposition.
7:06You know, there's a prophecy of a deliverer coming to Israel.
7:08I'm sorry, coming to Egypt for the people of Israel,
7:11the Hebrew people, the satanic emphasis of Pharaoh,
7:14kill all the baby boys. There's a prophecy of Messiah coming to Israel, under Herod, the
7:21demonic impetus for Herod, kill all the baby boys. It's not like to deal with full-grown
7:23opposition. The enemy knows the potency of godly men in the economy of the kingdom of
7:30God. So what does he seek to do? Cut them off at their infancy. Cut them off at their
7:34kneecaps. We're living in a time where we live in a panogrified society. Statistics show young
7:40men have their first encounters in these areas at very, very, very young ages. We know
7:45for a fact, increasing amounts of women are consuming this pornographic material as well.
7:52There is a, they should be a red alarm and red alert for the purity of God's bride.
8:00I've explained to you guys before that there is a distinction between purity and abstinence.
8:07And Jeff, I need to ask how much time do I have left in this segment.
8:10There's a distinction between purity and abstinence.
8:17is abstaining from what is desire.
8:22Purity however, is the attitude and the intention of the heart.
8:27It's a heart condition that precedes conduct.
8:32We cannot be the force that God would have us to be
8:37if we have a compromised bride.
8:41The bride's compromised status is reflected
8:47and having an overwhelming percentage of Christian men who are overcome by the sin of lust
8:57indicated by their consumption of pornography. This is something that has to be confronted head on.
9:02This is something that has to be addressed directly. And frankly, there are many who refuse to do so,
9:08and I don't mean this to be condemning. I'm just stating this as a matter of reality.
9:12There are many who refuse to do so frankly because they are compromised. We're living in a time period
9:18where you be hard pressed to find many young men who have not been or have not
9:26struggled in this area. Thankfully there's some who although they've been exposed
9:32to pornography they have not been overcome by it but there are far more
9:36who have been overcome by it. I mean I was minister to a young man not too long
9:42ago you know. Innocent young man unfortunately wasn't supervised appropriately
9:47had access to the internet at his grandparents home, was trying to do a search for basketball
9:56equipment and football equipment and was trying to find Dick's sporting goods on the
10:00internet.
10:02To cut right to the chase and not to belabor it, he ain't find Dick's sporting goods.
10:08That led to a multiple decades longs of a struggle.
10:14This was not somebody who had this crime and this is a little boy, seven or eight years
10:18old, whose mind was twisted because he was allowed to have, unfortunately, unsupervised
10:25access to the internet.
10:26Looking for Dick's Sporting Goods found not Dick's Sporting Goods.
10:29I can tell you story after story after story after story, past his children.
10:33People have counseled story after story after story, but because nobody, I won't say nobody,
10:37but because it's not confronted directly often.
10:43There are lots of people who are struggling in silos and anonymity.
10:49I've shared with you the statistics on this program
10:52that the pornography industry generates more revenue
10:55than the NBA, the NFL, Major League Baseball combined.
11:03I've shared right on this program
11:05that pornography websites have more traffic
11:09than Amazon, Netflix, LinkedIn,
11:12and the top non-prographic websites combined.
11:17Guys, this is endemic.
11:21And it's not the kind of thing that's just going to go away on its own.
11:24We have to have one, a battle plan, but most importantly, the willingness to confront it.
11:32Because here's the reality.
11:34Jesus Christ died.
11:36Wait, came, lived a sinless life, died or was resurrected, not merely to conform our conduct
11:41with the transformers at a heart level, to transform us at a heart level.
11:45And one of the downsides of this digital age is that the thing that older men had
11:51to work feverishly to get in magazine form.
11:55Now, trying to get it.
11:59Everybody carries around these microcomputers
12:02in their pockets.
12:05We've got to deal with it.
12:06My hope for today's program is that we'll
12:08be able to confront this.
12:10And I'm going to bring a guest on who's written a book about this.
12:14But this is a battle that has to be fought.
12:18This is a battle that has to be fought.
12:20One of the things I've learned over time
12:21is that sin is the opposite of a plant.
12:23Sin grows in darkness.
12:26You know how plants, in order for them to grow,
12:28and to flourish, and eat water,
12:29and what else do they need?
12:30Light, they need sunlight.
12:32Sin is the opposite.
12:33It grows in darkness.
12:37In order to have the type of freedom we need to have,
12:42we have to confront this sinfulness in the light.
12:46We have to bring it down into the light.
12:50Many of you listening right now, you know anecdotally
12:52how many people in your immediate sphere of influence
12:55have been impacted by pornography?
12:58How many are currently struggling with pornography?
13:03How many pastors are struggling with the sin of lust
13:10exemplified through pornography consumption
13:15and nobody around them knows about it?
13:17We gotta confront it head on.
13:19We gotta bring the sin out into the light.
13:21And I strongly believe that as the men
13:24God are able to come before Him, lifting up holy hands without wrath or doubt, and able
13:29to walk in purity and transparency that we will see a restoration of potency to the body
13:35of Christ.
13:36I was at an event not too long ago with my brother, Will Addison, and he made this statement, and
13:40I will never forget it.
13:41He said, brothers, your purity is your wife's security.
13:46Your purity is your wife's security.
13:48And I know that someone, listen to me, someone that fellas might be listening to me right now,
13:52You can't even envision your life without your habitual consumption.
14:01We have to get free. We have to get free. And I pray that today's program will be a tool that God uses
14:08to allow that to happen. A major, major, major plot from an enemy who does not like to condemn a full
14:15grown up, a contend with full grown opposition is to ensnare our boys at young ages and to have
14:21them to grow up with their manhood impacted by pornographic addictions, which really is being
14:29overcome by sinfulness.
14:30But God's grace will be free.
14:32And the God that we serve is still in the business of setting people free.
14:37Just like He sets people free from all manner of sinful lifestyles, God can set you free,
14:42brother.
14:44God can set you free from pornography.
14:48Stay with us.
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15:01Psalm 2 is the hub of all messianic prophecies.
15:04It even has God's perspective on those who oppose him.
15:08In verse 3, the God haters reinterpret his moral law when he clashes with their desires.
15:13But Psalm 2 12 is true.
15:15Do homage to the son that he not become angry and you perish in the way.
15:19For his wrath may soon be kindled.
15:22the full article for some God's holiness's
15:24fetters and cords by me, Dr. Ray Rooney, on thestand.net.
15:35Shiting light into the darkness, this is the Hamilton
15:38Corner, an American family radio.
15:41Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton the third,
15:43and I have to tell you, I am honored, excited, humbled,
15:46overwhelmed by the opportunity that I have now,
15:50providentially, I would say, to have on the program with me
15:53the president of Living Waters, the ministry, founded
15:57pioneered by Ray Comfort, evangelistic outreach.
16:01They have all kinds of offerings,
16:03but the president of the ministry is my guest
16:05seated to my left, Emile Zwain,
16:09who's most commonly known as EZ.
16:12EZ, thank you for joining me here on the program.
16:14Hey, what a joy to be with you, man.
16:16You're right, it was providential,
16:17the way that we just connected like that.
16:19Yeah.
16:20And it's a thrill to be with you, brother.
16:22Thank you for having me.
16:23And thanks for taking this topic on.
16:25Oh, man.
16:25because it's not a popular topic in terms of discussion,
16:30but it's a prevalent one, it's a serious one,
16:32and we need to tackle it, man.
16:34We definitely need to tackle it.
16:35I was just talking in the opening segment,
16:37I always do a biblical segment on the program,
16:41going straight from the scripture first,
16:42Thessalonians chapter four, about God's call
16:45for his people not merely to be absent, but to be pure.
16:48Amen.
16:49And there's a distinction between absent and impurity.
16:52because abstinence is simply abstaining
16:55from a particular conduct.
16:56But you can be abstinent while longing
16:57for the very same thing in your heart.
16:59Absolutely.
17:00It's often been said, you think that the people
17:03that have money, greed issues are people that are rich.
17:07That's not true, you could be dirt poor
17:09and have a greed problem.
17:12And the same thing, you could be abstaining externally,
17:16but man, you don't even need pornography
17:19to look at to lust in your heart and mind.
17:21and a lot of that is going on.
17:22And so, yeah, it's that passion and desire
17:26to please the Lord.
17:27Second Corinthians five, whether absent or present,
17:30we make it our aim to be well pleasing to Him.
17:33And He goes on to say,
17:34for we all must stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
17:37We're gonna give a count to the Lord.
17:38That's not popular to talk about,
17:39but that's a reality.
17:40And praise God for us as believers,
17:42it's not a judgment on decontamination.
17:44But we're gonna give a count for how faithful we were
17:48in our service of the Lord.
17:49Man, I don't want to have regrets on that day.
17:51Absolutely, neither do I.
17:53And it's, as you said, it's a topic that's not popular
17:55to discuss in public.
17:57Yeah.
17:58But it's overrunning the nation in general,
18:00but in particular, the body of Christ.
18:02Yeah, man, the statistics blew my mind.
18:0575% of professing Christian men dabble with pornography.
18:1040% of women and 18% of pastors,
18:14and I think that number is actually a lot higher
18:16because most won't be candid about it.
18:17Yes.
18:18what blew my mind was 95% of 11-year-olds will have looked at pornography.
18:24It's not just an epidemic, brother. It's a pandemic. It's ravaging individuals,
18:29it's ravaging families, it's ravaging the church. And that's what compelled me to write the book.
18:36I wanted a book that was biblically based, but anyone can quote scripture, but I wanted it
18:41to also be theologically sound, while being extremely practical and memorable and gospel-centric
18:49and something that would compel men to pursue holiness.
18:54And so I was hoping to hit those sweet spots and from the feedback by God's grace, it seems
18:59like the book has done that.
19:01So you mentioned the book and I want to show everybody who's watching the show.
19:04It is Fight Like a Man, a bold biblical battle plan for personal purity.
19:08right here written by E.Z. E. M. E.Z. Wayne and I encourage every Hamilton corner listener
19:14and viewer to get this book. If you are a sister, I know you have men in your lives who need this
19:21book. The body of Christ needs this book. It is, we need a new word. I mean pandemic, endemic,
19:29it is, it is wreaking outsized havoc. You have young men who are having their purity. I'm
19:34I'm sorry, they're innocent and true to the pawn.
19:36You have the reality of what God ordained to be
19:39holy matrimony, being impacted by people
19:42who have all types of inordinate affections
19:44that even follows them, even into their married lives.
19:47I mean, this is the kind of thing
19:48that we really have to confront and to address it.
19:51So I'm so grateful that you wrote the book
19:52and you're willing to come on to the show to discuss it.
19:55And then it's an interesting phenomenon
19:57because I know your wife is the daughter.
20:01A Rick Comfort, you know.
20:02Well, you know, it's crazy because, you know, Ray, Ray's been my father on all now coming
20:08on 29 years.
20:09Wow.
20:10He's an amazing guy.
20:11You know, people see him on our videos.
20:12They see him in the movies we put out.
20:14They hear him on our podcast.
20:16But the man you see and hear in all those places is the same man everywhere, man.
20:20Praise God.
20:21100% of the time he's the most humble, godly, gracious man.
20:24And so focused.
20:26Like he's got his calling and nothing's going to hinder him, you know.
20:30And it's awesome because a lot of people don't know this.
20:33Ray's of Jewish descent and I'm of Arab descent.
20:36And together we are the solution of these prizes.
20:39And in fact there's so much peace between us.
20:42We're going to start a new mattress company called Easy Comfort.
20:45And just call it a day.
20:48That is hilarious.
20:49But it's an honor.
20:50I pinch myself all the time.
20:51I'm like, now I get to serve with this guy.
20:53He's a giant of our times.
20:55And it's humbling.
20:57Amen.
20:58Amen.
20:59Let's get into the book.
21:00You wrote it the statistics as you mentioned are are a mon boggling to think about it. Yeah, what what?
21:07Were you seeking to accomplish by writing the book? Yeah?
21:10Well, I wanted men to recognize that there's hope
21:16because
21:17Even though I I do give men a kick in the pants in the book because we need that yeah
21:21We need that wake-up call of like look this is no joke
21:24But but on the flip side a lot of men don't have hope a lot of men have this sense like
21:30I'll never have victory over this.
21:32I'll never be free from this.
21:34Of course you have the men that don't care
21:37and I would urge them to examine themselves
21:40to see if they're in the faith
21:41to make a calling an election sure if they don't care.
21:43But then there are those that really do,
21:45but they're so ensnared, right?
21:47Because if you serve sin, you're a slave of sin.
21:49They're under its bondage.
21:51And they don't think there's hope.
21:53So I wanted to give men hope
21:55and I wanted to give them a practical battle plan.
21:58That's why the subtitle is a bold,
22:00Biblical battle plan for personal purity.
22:01And here's one of the problems that I found, Abe.
22:04It's that a lot of men have a peacetime mentality
22:08when they're in the midst of war.
22:10You know, imagine a soldier being deluded into thinking
22:14that he's on a luxury cruise ship,
22:16heading for the shores of Bora Bora to an exotic resort.
22:19When in reality, he's on a Higgins boat,
22:21heading for the shores of World War II Normandy.
22:23I mean, this dude's gonna saunter off the Higgins boat,
22:25clad in a bathrobe, some fluffy slippers,
22:27and a remote in one hand and a latte in the other.
22:30And he's gonna get smoked.
22:32So a lot of guys are acting like this is a game.
22:35Yeah, I know I need to stop this
22:37and they have their accountability groups
22:38and they just kinda share with each other
22:40how they're each stumbling and falling.
22:41And so they kinda almost affirm each other
22:44and comfort each other and they keep going.
22:45Normalized fallen.
22:46Yeah, but they're not doing anything about it.
22:48And that's why the title is Fight Like a Man.
22:50I start off the book with a war story
22:53of a war here named John Bassett on World War II.
22:55how this guy sacrificed himself for the sake of his comrades.
23:00And I talk about, look, being a man doesn't just include
23:03necessarily being super masculine and deep voice,
23:06to having a big beard and being athletic and strong.
23:08Of course, that's all included, perhaps.
23:11But a real man has character, conviction, integrity,
23:18commitment, devotion, dedication.
23:20A real man is willing to sacrifice in love
23:23for the sake of others.
23:25And look, man, I ask guys, I say this,
23:27hey, just out of curiosity,
23:28if some dude was coming up toward your wife
23:32and he pulls his fist back and he's about to pop her
23:34in the face, would you jump in front of her
23:37and like absorb that blow and then defend her?
23:39Some guy had a gun aimed at your children
23:41was about to pull the trigger.
23:42Would you jump in front of her and absorb that bullet
23:43and try to defend your kids?
23:45Oh, of course, right?
23:45Which man would say no?
23:46Right.
23:47But yet men aren't willing to defend their families
23:50by fighting like men in this area.
23:52Yeah.
23:53And brother, it's high time, man.
23:54It's absolutely right.
23:55It's high time.
23:56It's absolutely high time.
23:57And so I don't want to give the book away,
23:59but I do want to get into some of the practicality
24:02of the strategies that need to be employed,
24:04because what you're saying is so true,
24:05I can't tell you the number of times I've had pastors
24:07come to me kind of like Nicodemus, you know, at night saying,
24:10listen, Abraham, who are you talking about at this?
24:12And I'm talking about pastors.
24:14No, I'm still struggling.
24:15But I don't know what to do.
24:17I don't have anybody to talk about it.
24:17I've been struggling with this amount of years.
24:20But there is freedom in Christ.
24:22And I really, just like you said,
24:23with the accountability group, I think that sometimes people use man's fallenness and even
24:28like if you want to talk about the depravity of humanity to make themselves comfortable.
24:32Exactly.
24:33With sin filled lifestyles.
24:34Right.
24:35Yeah.
24:36Where their lives are characterized by sins like this.
24:37Yeah.
24:38Well, you know, they'll go to, well, hey, I'm not going out, you know, picking up on prostitutes.
24:41Yeah.
24:42There's always a comparison.
24:43Yeah.
24:44And that's tragic.
24:45Jesus said, if you look at a woman to lust for her, you've committed it already and you're
24:48harnessed.
24:49Yes.
24:50And a lot of men have this mindset of, I can't help it.
24:53I give this challenge. I say okay let's say Elon Musk walked up to you said hey I'm
24:58taking a hundred million bucks I'm putting it in an escrow account guaranteed you go
25:02six months without looking at pornography that hundred million is yours.
25:06I mean you're smiling bro because you and I both know it'd be a lot of people that
25:10would be point free for six months. Every single man would be able to do it. We're
25:14willing to do it for the love of money. We're not willing to do it for the love
25:18of the Savior who hung publicly upon a cross and paid the highest price ever paid
25:23for anything ever purchased to redeem our souls.
25:26And man, we need to wake up.
25:28We need to wake up and recognize that there is hope.
25:31And then on the flip side, you have the pastors.
25:33You mentioned the pastors.
25:35That's what happens, right?
25:36A big public figure, a big pastor falls,
25:38and suddenly everyone's talking about it,
25:39thinking about it, oh I better do something about it.
25:41And I don't mean that in a condemning way.
25:43I mean it from a place of compassion.
25:44But this is the reality.
25:45Absolutely.
25:46And then it goes back under the radar, right?
25:49And so there are pastors though that say,
25:52Oh no, that wouldn't happen to me.
25:54And I love what Vodie Bockam said.
25:57He said, look, the wisest man, the strongest man,
26:02and the godliest man in the Bible,
26:03fellness, sexual sin.
26:04If you say you can't, then you're saying
26:06that you're stronger than Samson,
26:08you're wiser than Solomon,
26:09and you're godlier than King David.
26:11And that's just plain stupid.
26:13And so, sadly, on the flip side,
26:14a lot of men don't have,
26:16they don't have safeguards in their lives.
26:18They don't have accountability.
26:19I have like three different brothers
26:20that I'm regularly accountable with.
26:22that they ask me the hard questions.
26:23We open our lives up to each other.
26:25When we're traveling, we'll text each other,
26:27hey man, keep me accountable, I'm going,
26:28hit me up when I get back.
26:29You know, you have to have that.
26:31And so what I do in the book is I give a battle plan.
26:35And it's four parts.
26:37In the first three, I'm talking about
26:38your three main enemies, right?
26:39We have to know our enemies.
26:40We have to know their strategy against us.
26:43And then we have to have a biblical counter-attack.
26:46And so I deal with the world, the flesh and the devil.
26:48Part one, two and three.
26:50And then in part four is where I get really practical.
26:53I'm practical throughout, but that's where I get hyper practical.
26:56And that part is called the six seas to succeed.
26:59And I give men six points that have an alliterated sentence
27:05with each one that they memorize.
27:07And then I fill it in with content to help them,
27:10because the problem is, Abe, is oftentimes,
27:13men don't have anything to give their heart and mind
27:15to do in the heat of battle.
27:18And they also don't train their heart and mind
27:21before they're in the heat of battle
27:23with what I call preventative preparedness.
27:26Preventative preparedness.
27:27Look, I mean the US has this doctrine called
27:29peace through strength.
27:31You know, we're so bolstered militarily
27:33that nations don't wanna mess with us.
27:36And Satan will always try to assail us,
27:37but we can rebuff him by having that
27:40preventative preparedness by being
27:42robust in our pursuit of the Lord.
27:45Because that's what it comes down to ultimately.
27:47And so I get practical on those and I'd love to hit any of those that you'd like me to touch on.
27:52But yeah, man, it's...
27:54I definitely would love to do so, but the illustration you gave about the $100 million,
27:59it underscores value.
28:01We place worth on that $100 million.
28:06Why don't we have the same value for humans?
28:08Oh, bro, I'm so glad you brought that up.
28:12Paul Tripp in one of his books talks about what he calls,
28:16how value impacts behavior.
28:18Value impacts behavior.
28:20And he gives us illustration using currency.
28:22I mean, look, there are days I'm walking around town,
28:24I reach in to my pocket, I pull something out,
28:27and then I hear clinkling, I look down,
28:28I see a penny on the ground.
28:29Or I'm just walking around, I see a penny on the ground.
28:31A lot of times, I don't give it the time of day
28:32to stoop down to pick it up.
28:34But you and I both know that no one ever
28:36does that with a $100 bill.
28:38No.
28:39OK?
28:39But imagine the United States government
28:41suddenly switched those values.
28:44And suddenly that penny became worth $100,
28:46that $100 bill became worth a penny.
28:48There would be no pennies in the world.
28:49And you could be sure that our behavior would change
28:52in keeping with those switched values,
28:54value impacts behavior.
28:56And we'd start weeping buckets of tears
28:59over all the pennies we didn't pick up
29:00because we'd be millionaires by now.
29:02And then we'd start using the $100 bill
29:03as this crap piece of paper or a nap
29:05can wipe our hands with because it's just worth a penny.
29:07What's a big deal?
29:08Value impacts behavior.
29:09The problem is, is we're not orienting our value system
29:13with gods.
29:14Paul's setting Colossians,
29:15don't set your mind on the things below,
29:17but on the things above where Christ is,
29:19set your mind on the things above where Christ is sitting
29:20at the right hand of God.
29:22We need to be eternally minded.
29:23We need to switch our value system
29:25so that it aligns with the Lord's,
29:27and then that will affect our impact.
29:29We need to recognize now, we are a breath away from eternity.
29:33A breath away.
29:35Often we think of eternity far and away.
29:37It's like this invisible doorway that follows us everywhere.
29:40And in a split second, we just cross over into it.
29:43And then it's all sealed up.
29:44And do you know what you forfeit
29:46when you're living in sexual sin, man?
29:48I mean, that the things that you give up,
29:50you think about, in my book,
29:52and one of the points is crisis.
29:54And that illiterate attendance is considered
29:56the catastrophic consequences of compromise.
29:59And one of the things I do is I have a list of notable men
30:04who are in ministry, leadership, who fell.
30:08And I meditate on that list every day.
30:10I think through all those men that destroyed their lives.
30:12And then I think about the crisis of what you forfeit.
30:15The crisis of conscience.
30:17You know, nothing hinders a man progressing in life
30:20more than a conscience that is wounded.
30:24You think of the crisis of moral authority.
30:28How do you speak into the lives of your children,
30:31of your friend, of your younger brother
30:33who's living in sexual sin when you're doing it yourself.
30:36No, it seals your lips.
30:37And then they miss out on being impacted
30:39by someone speaking into their life.
30:42You know, you have the crisis of leadership capacity.
30:46Who wants to lead or be involved in any kind of leadership
30:49when they're living in that?
30:50And who wants to follow anyone who's living in that?
30:52So you're hindered there.
30:54You have the crisis of joy.
30:56Man, the joy the Lord is our strength.
30:58When you're living in sin, it quenches the joy
31:00because you're grieving the Spirit
31:01who gives us his joy when you're living in that sin,
31:04and then the crisis of witness.
31:07How are you gonna be freely preaching the gospel
31:09when you're living in sin like that?
31:11How much do you value all of those things?
31:14You really wanna forfeit all of that
31:16for a split second pleasure that's gone
31:22and you know that emptiness you're left with
31:24after you indulge in that,
31:25whether it's fornication or adultery
31:27or other things I won't mention.
31:29Man, it's destructive.
31:32So we need to wake up and reorient that value system
31:34with the Lord.
31:36Easy, thank you so much.
31:38And I hope you can stay, because I want to continue
31:40going into the air, brother.
31:42You referred to Colossians 2 when you mentioned,
31:45if we're in Christ, set our minds on things that are above.
31:48Paul goes into the next portion of that chapter,
31:51and he's talking to believers in Colossae
31:53by saying, I'm appealing to you in this manner
31:55so that you wouldn't be beguiled.
31:56That's right.
31:57You wouldn't be deluded.
31:58Verse 80 goes on to say, he said,
31:59you would be taken captive.
32:00The reality is we often think about delusions of captivity
32:03applying to the unbeliever,
32:04but Paul is talking about believers
32:06being taken captive.
32:08This is one of the ways that many men
32:10who are professing believers have been taken captive
32:13and witnessed compromise and will authority compromise
32:15because in secret they are latent
32:18with a sin-filled lifestyle
32:20and pornography is the mechanism for that.
32:22We'll get into this some more.
32:23Now the side of the break, easy,
32:24is here with us, president of Living Waters.
32:30John the Baptist and Jesus gave the same command.
32:33Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
32:37Repentance is a reorientation toward God,
32:39resulting in a change in actions.
32:42Since our sins were fully accounted for in Jesus' death,
32:46repentance is not about earning forgiveness,
32:49but about receiving the forgiveness
32:51already secured through Jesus Christ.
32:53I'm Jordan Shambly,
32:55and you can read the rest of A Life of Repentance
32:57on thestand.net.
33:04The Hamilton Quarter Podcast and One-Bitted Common Terrets are available at EFR.net.
33:10Back to the Hamilton Quarter on American Family Radio.
33:15Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton the third here.
33:17My guest is E.Z.
33:19Emile Zwain, president of Living Waters.
33:22We are discussing the rogue and the plague that has really swept our nation and the world,
33:29frankly, including the body of Christ.
33:30And that is pornography.
33:32more broadly, we're talking about the need for men to pursue personal purity.
33:38And I love the way that that is the subtitle of his book, Easy tackles this in his new book,
33:43Fight Like a Man.
33:45Fight Like a Man, a bold biblical battle plan for personal purity.
33:51I cannot think of a more necessary book now than this.
33:56So again, thank you for taking the time to share this with our listeners.
34:00And during our break, I was just sharing with you just an anecdotal account, you know, because
34:05we have all kinds of people, all kinds of men struggling in these areas of demographic, increasing
34:10quantities of women struggling in these areas.
34:14But there's a circumstance that I came across where there was a young man.
34:18And he very innocent, like seven or eight years old, wasn't trying to find anything to listen.
34:23It was looking for sports equipment, but had unfettered access to the internet, looking
34:27of a Dick's Sporting Goods and ended up not finding Dick's Sporting Goods and that led
34:31to frankly a lifelong struggle thereafter with pornography.
34:36What do you say to somebody like that?
34:38Yeah, well man, I say first of all you want to head that off by being intentional with discipling
34:45your children.
34:46You know, a sex was God's idea, right?
34:49It still is by the way.
34:51He created it and he gifted us with it.
34:53I mean you think about it, right?
34:54He uses that process to bring into the world image bearers,
34:59bearing his very holy image.
35:01I mean, it's beautiful, but sadly,
35:04obviously Satan has twisted it,
35:06our flesh has tainted it, the world has perverted it.
35:10So you gotta start with your kids when they're young.
35:12You know, with our kids when we had the sex talk with them,
35:15I told my wife, I said, look,
35:16I want to make sure that we do this right
35:19because I've heard this analogy that I love.
35:22It's like your children's minds are like,
35:24warehouse is full of empty shelves.
35:27Whoever gets to those shelves first and stocks to them
35:30will make it harder for someone else to come unstalk them
35:33and restock them.
35:34So we wanna beat the world to it on every level.
35:38And so I told her we wanna handle this right with our kids.
35:40So what I did was I said, hey kids, tonight,
35:42mom and I wanna talk to you about something
35:44absolutely amazing.
35:47Something beautiful and wonderful that God made.
35:50Because usually when parents have their talks like,
35:51yeah, I'm like, hey kids, I'm their fidgeting,
35:53they're shipping their eyes.
35:54No, and the children don't have any frame of reference
35:57for it being anything other than what you present
35:59as the first show star.
36:00Exactly, we wanted an imprint on their minds
36:03that was in keeping with what it really is,
36:04beautiful and wonderful.
36:05So when we sat down with them,
36:06we had a couple books that we took them through
36:08that progressed and we just presented it to them that way.
36:13And it was, oh, I mean, it's so wonderful.
36:16My son just got married a month ago.
36:19And congratulations.
36:20Thank you so much.
36:21And he and his fiancee decided of their own will
36:25to not kiss until they got married,
36:26until they stood at the altar.
36:28And my son, by God's grace, has never looked
36:30at pornography, he's never kissed a woman,
36:32he's never been immoral.
36:33And he said to me when we were having a talk
36:36just before he got married, he said,
36:37Dad, I'm so glad I'm going into my marriage with purity.
36:41Come on.
36:41Brother, it touched me so deeply and blessed me.
36:45But I know that my other kids could fall at any moment.
36:48I'm not saying that to brag.
36:50I'm saying that to encourage parents to say,
36:51look, it's possible.
36:53It's possible, but you have to start early
36:55and be intentional with your children.
36:57When my kids were young, I crafted a family vision statement
36:59for them, and it goes like this,
37:00to gladly and passionately glorify God
37:03in every thought, affection, word, and deed,
37:05while constantly enjoying Him as our greatest pleasure
37:07and most precious treasure.
37:09Amen.
37:09So from early on, look, you were made by God and for God,
37:12and your calling in life is to live for His glory
37:15in all that you do.
37:16We have that as a plaque in our home, my kids,
37:19my wife, all of us have memorized that.
37:20And so you got to start young, headed off,
37:23have regular conversations with your kids about it.
37:26Install software on your devices so that that can't happen
37:30as much as possible.
37:31And tell them, hey, if something pops up,
37:33here's what you do, so that they're prepared
37:35ahead of time for the past.
37:36Yeah, so well said.
37:37It's so well said.
37:38And that's a part of the responsibility that we have
37:40as parents, that we fathers are ultimately accountable
37:42to God for, and discipling our children, rearing them
37:45in the by day and enthusiasm of the Lord.
37:46And they're just an admonition of the Lord.
37:48Amen.
37:48And you also unfortunately have the converse where, like the anecdote I told you, when people
37:55who haven't had that, and they are now laboring within an environment where they're ebbing
38:02and flowing between shame and inability to respond appropriately, how do we help people
38:09in that kind of scenario?
38:10Yeah, so again, like I said, you have to have a battle plan.
38:14The first thing aid that is so key and important and indispensable is something called repentance.
38:21It's that beautiful word that has become this archaic, outdated, sort of defunct word when it is the most beautiful word in all of existence
38:32because it implies hope. It implies that the possibility for change and that God has paid for our sins so that we can repent and turn from it.
38:42And so there needs to be that serious reckoning and repenting of sin.
38:46Like I said, the Elon Musk thing, right?
38:48Don't have this deception that, oh, you just can't help it.
38:51You can.
38:53And so you must change your value system.
38:55You must turn to the Lord.
38:56And so you have to have that battle plan, like I said, and understand Satan's strategies.
39:00And so with Satan, for example, he's a one trick pony.
39:03There's nothing new.
39:04It's the same thing he didn't eat in.
39:06And first it was discontent.
39:08As God said, you can't eat of every tree.
39:09God said you could eat of every tree except one.
39:12He gave them dominion over the whole planet.
39:14Think of how microscopic the tree of the knowledge of good
39:16and evil would have been from space
39:17compared to the whole planet he gave them,
39:19but he turned their heart toward discontent.
39:21Then it was disbelief, oh, you will not surely die.
39:24So he deceives us into thinking the consequences for sin
39:27that God has laid out are not what they really are.
39:29So sexual immorality, oh, no big deal.
39:31And Corinthian sells us, he who commits sexual immorality,
39:33sins against his own body.
39:34Every other sin is outside.
39:36It's sat apart as a distinct sin.
39:38When you look at Romans one, I mean,
39:39we see sexual immorality as being like a depraved type of sin
39:45that's in keeping with radical departure from God.
39:49So you have to recognize that and you have to battle that.
39:51And then finally, deification.
39:53You will become like God, knowing good from evil.
39:57In other words, you will become the final arbiter
39:59on what is right or wrong.
40:00You will make that call in your life.
40:02You will like Satan, right?
40:03His first sin, it was his first sin.
40:05You'll ascend to the throne of the Mosai.
40:06You will become God over your own life.
40:09And so I talk about the counter-attact,
40:11how do we deal with that?
40:12Then I get into the world, right?
40:13The world has its ways and its wisdom.
40:16It's got its mantras.
40:17God wants you to be happy.
40:19Sin is sin, no big deal.
40:21Yeah, sin is sin, but the consequences
40:24and ravages of sin are not the same.
40:26You ask me to help you move house,
40:28and I say, oh, sorry, I'm busy and I lied to you.
40:29That's a sin, it's serious, it's wrong.
40:31But if I go and murder your whole family,
40:33that's a different thing.
40:34Yeah, and the main thing,
40:35it has different temporal impact.
40:37Exactly.
40:38Absolutely.
40:39So, you know, so there's that, there's, you know,
40:42you only live once, you know, all these mantras that are so
40:45deceptive, and then you have the flesh.
40:47And really, like Dr. John Street says in his book,
40:50So Powerful, he says, look, the real enemy is the flesh,
40:54right, it's the inward adversary that comes against us,
40:58but you have the world and the devil that it allies with.
41:03And so, you just have to realize that, you know,
41:06it's your fault, so you have to counter that, right?
41:08Paul says, I say then walk in the spirit,
41:10you will not fulfill the less of the flesh.
41:12How do we walk in the spirit?
41:13By engaging ourselves in the things
41:14the spirit of God is involved in.
41:16What is he mainly involved in?
41:17Well, the word, it's called the sort of the spirit.
41:19Prayer, we don't know how to praise,
41:21we out the spirit intercedes for us.
41:22Amen.
41:23Evangelism, right?
41:25When the spirit comes upon you, you'll believe my witnesses
41:27and then fellowship, scripture talks about
41:28the fellowship of the spirit.
41:30And often, Abe, it's so tragic because you talk to men,
41:32for example, about like prayer and the word.
41:34They're like, yeah, man, I know, but there's gotta be something
41:37It's like it's it's insulted us. It's too simplistic. Yeah, so you rephrase that prayer
41:42Yeah, I guess you know all I can do is talk to the omniscient omnipotent omnipresent infinite God of the universe who holds every Adam in
41:49His control and who loves me infinitely that he died on the cross and rose for me and says to ask and I shall receive
41:54I guess all I can do is pray are we crazy?
41:56Yeah, we're minimizing communion with the God of the universe
41:59Yes, if you get access to the president of the United States and he says anything you want
42:04You just let me know if you're not hitting them up, then you really don't believe that's true. Yes, and then the word
42:09Oh, yeah, I guess all I can do is read
42:11You know that thing that's sharper than any two-edged sword the discerns of thoughts and intents in my heart that you know
42:16It is profitable for all things that I may be thoroughly equipped. You know, it's a man every good work
42:21Every good work. I mean are we crazy? Yeah, so no, we are crazy because we've been deceit. No, I really mean that
42:27I've declared I've just described prayerlessness in the life of a believer as a tacit declaration of independence from God
42:33We're living declarations of independence from God,
42:37living as if we don't need him.
42:39Professing Christianity, practical atheist,
42:42or at best agnostics.
42:43Not so true.
42:44And defaulting, neglecting the nuclear atom bomb
42:47that's made available for us to walk upright,
42:49we neglect that.
42:50And I find that people say things like that.
42:52I've heard people say,
42:53babe, can you give me some advice
42:54to something to do other than pray?
42:55That usually comes from people who don't pray.
42:57That's right.
42:58Exactly.
42:59And look, I mean, prayer, I've often said this.
43:01prayer is the barometer to where we're at spiritually.
43:05Because if you're sitting in a room by yourself
43:09speaking into the air to a God whose face you cannot see,
43:13whose voice you cannot hear, whose presence you cannot
43:15physically feel, and you're doing that,
43:17that's a demonstration of true faith.
43:19And I love what James says, show me your faith
43:21without your works, I'll show you my faith by my works.
43:23And the reason why I love that is because it's concrete.
43:27It's not this ambiguous and sort of amorphous thing.
43:32Look, you can show that you believe.
43:34I may not feel prayer is important.
43:36I may not feel the word is important on any given day.
43:38But if I'm entering God's presence and I'm crying out to Him,
43:41if I'm getting in the word,
43:42even though I'm feeling and thinking these everything,
43:44I'm showing my faith by my words.
43:47And so there's this element of like,
43:49man, are we pursuing the Lord with all our heart,
43:54mind, soul and strength?
43:55Are we truly seeking after Him?
43:57because if we are, we're going to see change
43:59and transformation in our lives.
44:00Evidence of that reality.
44:02And you began by describing some of the practical things
44:05you implement for accountability,
44:07which is so wise and so profound,
44:11because sometimes people are looking for deep things
44:13from God, when the truth is the simplicity,
44:15the simple things from God are deep when applied.
44:18That depth is evident when applied,
44:20and you talked about that accountability,
44:22the way that James articulates it,
44:24we receive forgiveness from God vertically,
44:27but often walking in liberty or freedom
44:28where deliverance requires a horizontal
44:30reality of relationship, confess your sins,
44:33one to another.
44:34And one of the main deficiencies that I see,
44:37and I want to hear what you have to say about this,
44:40is Satan has been effective in reducing
44:42what's supposed to be a thriving, vibrant reality
44:45of Christ following through a body of believers.
44:47He's reduced us who are supposed to be worshiping together
44:51to merely worshiping beside one another.
44:52Absolutely.
44:53We have people we sit next to for decades
44:55in buildings or year, five years, we don't even know them.
44:58Let alone, knowing the struggle is sufficiently
45:01be able to bear one another's burden.
45:03The concept of sharing burdens has become almost anathema
45:07to Christ's followers, because we don't want to be real
45:09about what's going on.
45:10Well, you know, Proverbs 18-1, he who separates himself
45:14seeks his own desires, right?
45:16He corals against all sound wisdom.
45:18When you're pulling away from community,
45:20from authenticity, transparency with other men,
45:23It's because you want to sin without anyone calling you on it.
45:27But if you, like first John says,
45:29if we walk in the light, as he himself is in the light,
45:31we have fellowship with one another
45:34and the blood of his son, Jesus cleanses us from all sin.
45:37I love that, walking in the light with other brothers.
45:39It's so powerful.
45:40And if I could share one more thing, if we have time.
45:44Please do.
45:48I have this thing at the end of the book.
45:49I call it the nope principle.
45:52One time I was counseling this young man,
45:54and I said, man, how you doing with pornography?
45:57So I'm doing pretty good.
45:58I said, how you doing with lust?
45:59Because again, we make that excuse, right?
46:00Oh, I'm not looking important,
46:01but we're lusting, as we're walking around,
46:04with thoughts on our mind.
46:05So I'm not doing too well.
46:06He hung his head in the shame.
46:06I said, man, you know what?
46:07We gotta get serious with this.
46:08I felt this like righteous passion for purity rise up in me.
46:11I said, we just gotta, as men,
46:12just say, I'm done with this, it's enough.
46:14And we gotta just say, nope, right?
46:16And even say it out loud.
46:17I said, don't I say it out loud,
46:18because that commits us, you know?
46:19Anyway, I felt it resonated with him, resonated with me.
46:22The next day I'm on my way to the office.
46:23I'd leave home and these girls wearing barely anything
46:25are jogged by my car.
46:27And I instinctively caught myself going, nope, out loud.
46:29Then I thought, man, I wish there was some kind of,
46:32you know, a cross like that would tie in with that.
46:33And suddenly it popped into my mind.
46:35Nope, N-O-P-E, not one peak even.
46:38Amen.
46:39Not one peak even.
46:40And then I thought, why not one peak even?
46:42It's because it's fueled by my five loves.
46:44And you know, Jesus said, whoever puts his hand
46:46at the plow looks back and doesn't wear the other kingdom.
46:47So I imagine my hand going out to the plow,
46:49Each finger representing one of my loves.
46:51Why not one peek even?
46:52Because I love my Lord.
46:53The one who paid that price to redeem my soul.
46:55I don't want it to sound like I love my lady.
46:57The one that I vowed before,
46:58heaven and earth to be faithful to.
46:59I love my lineage, my children, grandchildren,
47:02even past generations.
47:03I love the lost.
47:05Those that I'm supposed to be a witness to
47:06and I love his lambs, God's people.
47:08So because I love all those, nope, not one peek even.
47:11Not with my physical eye, not with my mind's eye.
47:14So that's in the book along with those six seas
47:16and everything else.
47:17You know what's blowing me away Abe is the response.
47:19You know I mean it was the number one bestseller,
47:21number one new release on Amazon
47:23and one of the top, and it's category,
47:24and one of the top sellers out of all categories.
47:27And you know it was endorsed by Dr. John MacArthur,
47:29Ken Hammer wrote the forward Kirk Cameron,
47:31Ray Comfort endorsed it, and Justin Peters, many others,
47:34and it's just been humbling what the Lord has done,
47:37and I want to see men help, so they can get it at Amazon,
47:40and I pray it impacts them for Dr. Lord.
47:42We'll have a link to get the book in the show,
47:44and I'm telling you everybody get this book,
47:46Give it to a man in your life by four, by five.
47:49Give it as a gift.
47:50We need a resurgence, a wave, a move of God by a spirit
47:55of godly men of purity.
47:57Purity will empower us to have the potency we need
48:00to bear witness to be disciple makers
48:03because God has made us his disciples.
48:06And for those who are listening right now,
48:07you're struggling these areas.
48:09I want it affirmed what EZ has said.
48:11Repentance is available.
48:13Just as God delivers from the guttermost
48:15the uttermost from all types of sin,
48:17you can be free from pornography.
48:19Amen.
48:20In fact, you must be free from pornography.
48:23God, Jesus Christ came, lived and died,
48:25not merely to conform to our conduct,
48:27like Pavlovian dogs, he came to transform us
48:29at a heart level, and that is available
48:31by the power of the shed blood of Jesus Christ.
48:33Easy, thank you, brother.
48:34I'm brother, thank you.
48:35Thank you so much for having me.
48:40The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast
48:42may not necessarily reflect those
48:44of the American Family Association,
48:46or American Family Radio.

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