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0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
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0:36Hamilton corner day two of NRB 2025 we are once again in the exhibit hall at the
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0:54today's edition of the program my name is Abraham Hamilton the third I am the
0:59host of the Hamilton Corner and I am joined here in Grapevine, Texas with me. I didn't say
1:05that yesterday. We're in Grapevine. Grapevine, Texas here on site is producing short and they
1:11are often imitated, never duplicated. The real Jay Mac is trying to get my mic set up
1:15properly because the mic is staying and keep topping over. It keeps topping over. But it's
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1:24that you can hear us in addition to seeing us it is it is my man a hundred grand mr. Bobby
1:33closer and we are ready to roll rock and roll with today's edition of the program
1:39at this very moment many of you if not most of you are making your transitions
1:43from your part time jobs where you generate an income to your full time jobs where you cultivate
1:48and outcome. And as you do so, I want to remind you to do so with intentionality. It is instructive
1:55for us that the first human institution that God established was the family with marriage at the
2:01center before there was the modern iterations of civil government before orders of priests and prophets.
2:07God began with the family with marriage at the center. He did that intentionally,
2:13intentionally. That was not a mere coincidence. That was not something that we wanted to shrug
2:18our shoulders and move on from, that's something that God did
2:21intentionally because he wants us to understand the significance
2:24that he places on family.
2:27This has nothing to do with denigrating people at other
2:29stations of life, stages in life.
2:31This has nothing to do with people who have different life
2:34circumstances.
2:35This is an articulation of the reality that family is central
2:40to God's plan for his people, to God's plan for his kingdom.
2:45and is vitally important that we understand that,
2:49embrace it, and welcome the application of that reality
2:52to our lives.
2:54So as you are making your transition
2:56from your part-time jobs to your full-time jobs,
2:59outcome cultivation is the order of the day.
3:02The Lord has instructed for His offspring
3:05to be executed towards of His commission,
3:09where we are called to go into all the world
3:11and make into making disciples of all nations.
3:13you've heard me teach before, explain before that the word nations there in the text Matthew
3:1828 comes from the Greek word ethnos where we get our English word ethnicity from proclaiming
3:25the gospel and making disciples to amongst all nations, all people groups.
3:31And we are to do this until the end of the age, to the end of the age.
3:38This is why I say what goes on in your house is far more important, far more important than
3:43what goes on in the White House, not because the White House's activities are unimportant.
3:48It is because the White House's activities should not supplant your faithful discharge
3:54of what God calls you to do.
3:57It should not supplant what God calls me to do to simply give an example.
4:01It is an indictment for us to know more about President Trump's executive orders than we
4:06know about what's going on in our own homes.
4:09and indictment for us to know more about the budgetary arguments that are happening on the
4:13floor of the United States House of Representatives than we know anything about what's on our teenager's
4:18cell phones. What sites are they visiting? You know, that's a problem. And we should not
4:23allow that problem to persist. So that's just one of the examples and one of the many ways
4:30that we can reverse the temptation to allow things that are transpiring nationally to allow
4:36things that are transpiring at a level that exceeds what where we operate and what we're
4:42functioning in in our homes away from our recognition. I'm sorry to allow things to
4:50the transpiring nationally to capture our attention beyond our awareness and our
4:54consistency with what is going on and what goes on right in our own homes. That's
5:01It's just a simple fact.
5:03It is exciting to be a part of God's plan.
5:06I'm grateful for being here, being able to witness
5:10all of the different things that are transpiring,
5:13all of the different ministries from all over the world.
5:16It's amazing to see what's happening,
5:18but it makes me also sobered by the fact that,
5:22man, God has given us great freedoms in our nation.
5:24God has provided great resources in our nation,
5:27and I feel an outsized sense of accountability to the Lord
5:35for what will we do with all the God's provided for us?
5:39The unfortunate reality that the United States
5:41of America historically has sent the most missionaries
5:44into the world in the history of the Lord's New Testament church.
5:48But we largely as a nation have become the mission field.
5:53That's just the truth.
5:55But it's not over.
5:56Just like I said yesterday,
5:57when when Jesus rebuked the church at Laodicea, it wasn't a rebuke of
6:02finality, it wasn't a final condemnation, because he concluded by saying,
6:06those whom I love are correct, articulating that I am speaking to you in
6:12this way, I'm offering this strong medicine because I love you.
6:16And I'm doing so as an encouragement for you to turn.
6:19And you know, I'm going to get to it later in the show this morning,
6:23some of the things that happened this morning were greatly encouraging in the
6:26scripture that's a little put on my heart. It's something we visited before, we want to revisit it
6:30now that today presents the appropriate backdrop to return to this portion of scripture. So we're
6:36going to begin the program in Psalm 33, Psalm 33 verses 11 through 17, Psalm 33 verses 11 through 17
6:48by way of context just as a reminder.
6:52This is the Psalm that was penned after the events that
6:58are recorded for us in 1 Chronicles 17.
7:01This is where David was informed that he would not cease
7:06to have an heir on the throne, that he in his offspring
7:11would be granted the throne by Yahweh forever.
7:15And David's response was really counterintuitive
7:19to the understanding of monarchs that would have been prevalent
7:23at this time in the ancient Near East.
7:26And it's instructive for us.
7:28It is really, really instructive for us to consider.
7:34And I truly, truly pray we recognize
7:36what's being stated here,
7:38and that we have a proper application of it to our own hearts.
7:41And so in contrast to David basking in himself
7:44and how wonderful he is and how great of a monarchy
7:48may view himself to be potentially.
7:51This is how the Psalmist responds to that pronouncement
7:56of David's enduring monarchy, Psalm 33 verse 11.
7:59The council of the Lord stands forever.
8:04The plans of his heart to all generations.
8:08Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.
8:13the people whom he has chosen as his heritage.
8:17The Lord looks down from heaven.
8:20He sees all the children of man.
8:24From where he sits enthroned, he looks out.
8:27On all the inhabitants of the earth.
8:31He who fashions the hearts of them all
8:34and observes all their deeds.
8:38The king is not saved by his great army.
8:41A warrior is not delivered by his great strength.
8:45The war horse is a false hope for salvation.
8:49Well, some jurisdictions say victory or others say safety.
8:53The war horse is a false hope for salvation,
8:56for safety, for victory.
8:58And by its great might, it cannot rescue.
9:01I've explained before contrary to what
9:05monarchs in the ancientaries at the time
9:07would have viewed, would have believed,
9:09as well as contrary to what many heads of state today
9:12would believe.
9:15The articulation would have been my confidence
9:17in my ability to have an enduring reign
9:19and enduring monarchy would be directly attributable
9:24to the size of my military.
9:27It would be directly attributable
9:28to my military innovation,
9:30where having the most advanced, technologically advanced
9:34warfare fighting capabilities.
9:37that the longevity and the duration of my monarchy, my reign, would be directly attributable to
9:43the breadth and depth of my financial coffers.
9:47But the Psalmist says the exact opposite.
9:49As David is facing, the creator of heaven and earth has said that I will not cease to have
9:54a descendant on the throne.
9:57He's able to explain that the king is not saved by his great army.
10:03The warrior is not delivered by his great strength.
10:07The war horse, the military strength, the military innovation is a false hope for salvation and
10:13it goes right back to verse 11.
10:15It is the counsel of the Lord that stands forever.
10:18Guys the reality is, and I don't say these try to pump your heads up or anything like that,
10:23but the simple fact is that you plus God are a majority.
10:26That's a simple reality.
10:28Not having anything to do with you because God without you is a majority in potency and
10:33capacity and that's just the truth.
10:37we have in during scriptures like when Elisha is walking around, what the servant boy in the
10:41king of Syria has is plans to arrest and not just arrest but really to execute the prophet Elisha
10:49and the servant came running, master, master father, father. And Elisha prayed,
10:55Lord opened this young man's eyes that he may see that they are more with us than are with them.
11:00After Elisha prayed, the young man looked up and saw the chariots and the horsemen of Israel
11:06that surrounding the Syrian army.
11:09And the thing that's so remarkable in that text,
11:13is that the Charist and Horseman of Israel didn't even
11:16go to blows.
11:18It simply just demonstrated what God is capable of.
11:23And that radically transforms your perception
11:25of longevity and effectiveness.
11:28The truth is, if God before you, who can be against you?
11:32It is that reality, and I've explained this before,
11:34that 1 Kings 17 has David the Shepherd Boy,
11:37who didn't plan a massive full-on assault against a giant that day he was delivering lunch.
11:43That's why I described him as some of the commentaries I've done as the ordinary giant slave.
11:48And when he went up against Goliath, he never once referred to Goliath as a giant, not once.
11:54It wasn't because he couldn't see. It wasn't because his optical lenses weren't working.
11:59It was because his vision was so consumed with his God that Goliath looked small to him,
12:05not because the life was small, but because David was viewing the reality of this uncircumcised
12:10Philistine through the lens of the transcendent, expansive reality of the King of glory.
12:18So when the Psalmist says, the counsel of the Lord stands forever, the plans of his heart to all
12:25generations. This is what leads the Psalmist to verse 12, blessed is the nation whose God
12:34is the Lord. When the question is presented or the statement is offered, make America great,
12:42or the question is presented. What makes America great? You can direct them to this as the answer.
12:48What makes a nation great? Is there a position vis-à-vis the Lord? Blessed is a nation whose
12:56God is the Lord. Verse 13, he looks down from heaven. He sees all the children of men. There is not one
13:06that is beyond his scope.
13:09There's not one.
13:10He sees all the children of men,
13:12from where he sits and thrown,
13:13he looks out on all the inhabitants of the earth.
13:18This is why I can say,
13:19without fear of successful contradiction.
13:22When we have questions about justice,
13:24there is not one person who escapes the justice of God.
13:28Not one.
13:29Even if there are some that don't,
13:33that are not held accountable,
13:35that they view themselves as escaping,
13:37excirting justice temporarily, there is not one who escapes justice.
13:41Finally, ultimate, and it's not a one.
13:44And even those who repent, justifies them as well, because in order to repent, they
13:49have to come face to face with their sin, face to face with, with the penalty of this
13:53and submit themselves humbly to the propitiation of this.
13:59And there's not one who escapes from where he sits and thrown.
14:02He looks out on all the inhabitants of the earth.
14:04And it is he who fashions the hearts of them all and observes all their deeds.
14:12Brothers and sisters, make no mistake about it.
14:14Righteousness, exultination, Proverbs 14 tells us that.
14:18Sin is a reproach to any people.
14:21Blessed is a nation whose God is the Lord.
14:25If we want to see our nation positioned firmly, we must be a nation that is under God.
14:31Or as I've heard it say numerous times, if we are not a nation under God, we will be a nation going under.
14:35That is the simple fact, the simple reality.
14:38Some things happen today that are encouraging in this particular direction.
14:44And I'm going to share that with you when you come on the other side of the break.
14:46You are listening to the Hamilton Corner Day 2 at the NRB Convention 2025.
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15:10Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton the third here.
15:14I am on the exhibit hall floor at NRB 2025 in the beautiful Gaylord Texan Resort
15:20and Conference Center and I am delighted to have on the program with me.
15:24I don't know if you heard the show.
15:26Her show this morning because you might have heard me there.
15:29Well, now this evening, you get to hear her on my program.
15:32her on my program. I'm talking none other, talking about none other than the host of the
15:39weekly AFR podcast on demand with Jenna Ellis as well as the daily morning radio show Jenna
15:45Ellis in the morning. Jenna Ellis. Good evening. Good evening.
15:50Sprinting in because yes, the convention center is really closed, but they stay open for us.
15:54Yes, which was great. And so they were like, are you sure you're going in? And I said,
15:58Yes, please let me get there, but got here with 10 seconds to spare and in radio time.
16:03That's a lot of time.
16:04Exactly.
16:05You're good to go.
16:06Well, I wanted to start off with you.
16:07Thanks for having me.
16:08Oh, you're very welcome.
16:09Thank you for being here.
16:11This morning we were talking this morning.
16:13Before you came on, I was talking about the guys' grades.
16:15I've been doing interviews and stuff all day long, so my times are all thrown off.
16:19But just before you came on the show, I was talking about Psalm 33.
16:23And sometimes people can forget the context.
16:25the text where we get the seminal verse Psalm 33 12,
16:29that blesses the nation, whose God is the Lord.
16:31And it goes on through verses 11 through 17,
16:36where the psalmist says that the king is not saved
16:40by his great army.
16:41A war horse is a false hope for salvation,
16:43but what people don't remember often is that the context
16:46for that are the events that precede that particular psalm
16:48are what's recorded in 1st Chronicles 17,
16:50when David is granted the throne forever.
16:53And his response is not to pound his chest and,
16:56and hey, I got the best fighting force
16:58or the best technological war fighting innovation,
17:00but the articulation is that, yo, I'm king,
17:03but my army is not the source of enduring legacy.
17:06You know, the war horse is not the source
17:08of strength and rain for monarch.
17:11Bless is the nation whose God is the Lord.
17:12And so this morning, the first cabinet meeting
17:17with President, for President Trump
17:18as the 47th President of the United States began
17:21in a particular way where cameras for new stations
17:26all over the globe were able to capture the way
17:29that the cabinet meeting this morning began.
17:31I want you to take a gander and listen at that.
17:35And for those who are watching the program,
17:37you can watch those who are just listening.
17:39I want you to listen to, but watch and listen to clip number one.
17:42This is how the cabinet meeting this morning began.
17:45Clip one, go.
17:47Say grace and fill one of our meeting, right?
17:49Thank you very much.
17:50Thank you, Mr. President. Let's pray.
17:52Father, we thank you for this also privilege,
17:56Father, to be in your presence.
17:58God, thank you that you've allowed us to see this day,
18:01the Bible says that your mercy is anew every morning,
18:04and Father God, we give you the glory and the honor.
18:07Thank you, God, for President Trump, Father, for appointing us.
18:11Father God, thank you for anointing us to do this job.
18:14Father, we pray you'll give the President,
18:16the Vice President wisdom.
18:18Father God as they lead.
18:20Father I pray for all of our colleagues that are here around the table and in this room.
18:24Like God we pray that we would lead with a righteous clarity.
18:28Father God as we serve the people of this country in every perspective, agency, every
18:33job that we have.
18:35Father we would humble ourselves before you and we would lead in a manner that you've
18:39called us to lead and to serve.
18:40Father if I was to say as the Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.
18:44Father, we today honor you and in your rightful place, Father, thank you for giving us this opportunity
18:50to restore faith in this country and be a blessing to the people of America.
18:55And Lord God, today in our meeting, we pray that you will be glorified in our conversation.
18:59In Jesus' name, amen.
19:04That is how the first cabinet meeting, I can see you have tears in your eyes, I'm watching
19:09you.
19:10That was the voice of the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Scott Hunter, leading
19:14the entire cabinet. Secretary of Defense Pete Hagg Seth seated on President Trump's left,
19:19head bowed. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, sitting in the president of Trump's right,
19:23head bowed. The entire cabinet in the room. Jenna, what is your reaction to that?
19:28Jenna, that's incredible. And we've waited to see this, Abe. And I am brought to tears because,
19:36you know, knowing so many people in that room personally, I mean, people who are listening
19:40know, I mean, I used to work for President Trump. And I've known Pete Hagg Seth personally a long
19:45and to just see that kind of honor to the Lord first,
19:52we have been given such an opportunity in this country
19:57to love the Lord and to make a difference for the Lord
20:03and not just, you know, America first and all of these nuts and bolts of policy,
20:08but we have such an opportunity for revival in this country
20:13and to start that way is amazing and it's a hundred percent right. I love it. It
20:22truly is you know and I couldn't agree with you more and I know listen that not
20:26everything is perfect. I know President Trump is not perfect. I'm not expecting
20:31everything to be perfect but to have someone in the seat of the Commander in
20:35Chief and also to have Cabinet members heads bowed. I mean I can't help but to
20:41think about the Naib Bukhelli.
20:45I can't help think about him and I played on this program
20:48when he had the nation that he's serving as president
20:51who was overwhelmingly reelected
20:53and they were an exceedingly violent nation.
20:57And they were able to make an adjustment
20:58and there are a lot of other details and facts
21:00that go into it, but he was asked
21:02how were you able to make this turn?
21:03He said, well, do you want the official answer
21:05or the real answer?
21:07And he said the real answer is that it was an active guy.
21:10It was an active guy.
21:11And honestly Abe, I don't know that we would be
21:14in this position here if it was not for how God used
21:20the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt
21:23in Donald Trump's life because I see such a difference
21:28and a humility there that was not there ahead of time.
21:30And people like me who of course supported DeSantis
21:35in the primary because we wanted to see things like this.
21:39We wanted a someone who was in the commander in chief position
21:44and in the Oval Office that would openly acknowledge
21:46Jesus Christ as Lord and give honor to the Lord.
21:50I think that what the world intended for evil,
21:54God has used for good because President Trump
21:57has openly acknowledged the Lord's intervention
22:00and his sovereignty and I truly believe
22:03that that has changed him.
22:04And he's had prayers in the Oval Office before his first term.
22:08but this is a different setup.
22:11And I think this would not have happened
22:14but for what those people meant for evil, God worked for good.
22:19And you have a unique perspective on that
22:22because as many of us know, and in case you don't know,
22:26you were a president from the lawyer for a time.
22:28And so you got to see him at a proximity
22:31that not many others had the opportunity.
22:34So you had the vantage point to evaluate what you saw then
22:39versus what you're seeing now.
22:40And I think I've heard others who have been close
22:42to the president, I have not been close to the president,
22:45but even from a distance, it seems to be pretty palpable.
22:49And again, I'm not saying everything's perfect,
22:50everything's fine, but he called for prayer.
22:53Like he's like, okay, before we get started,
22:55and he referred to it as grace,
22:57if that thought is just, you know.
22:58Sweet, actually.
22:59He doesn't know the nomenclature of the verse.
23:01Let's say grace before we start our meeting, you know?
23:03but he's calling for someone to pray.
23:06And then he concludes by affirming his secretary of hood.
23:10I say, man, that was an amazing job you just did in praying
23:15for their meaning.
23:16And I'm sharing this with our audience here
23:19to be informed, yes, but secondarily,
23:22to pray that this would be a continued phenomenon
23:24in the life of not only the president,
23:26but the entire cabinet for those who are in the room.
23:29Elon Musk was in the room.
23:31I don't believe he's a believer.
23:33and I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
23:35He was there for that prayer.
23:37He was there for that prayer.
23:38And I'm hopeful and I pray that this will be the defining feature
23:44of Trump 47 as president of the United States
23:48and assessed the course for additional things to follow.
23:50Absolutely.
23:51And the difference here and one of the reasons,
23:54and I had seen the headlines of this,
23:56but watching this, that was actually the first time I saw this
23:59was here with you.
24:00And part of the reason you literally
24:02moving me to tears is because in the first term,
24:06Trump said to me one time, he goes,
24:08you know, a lot of people ask to pray for me all the time,
24:10and yeah, I could take it early,
24:11but I mean, sweet, just sure, you know, whatever.
24:13And I think he genuinely meant that where he kind of saw it
24:17as a, oh, this is a Christian affirmation.
24:20But he has now seen the power of the Lord personally
24:24in a way that I can't even fathom
24:27what it would have been like to go through that.
24:29And here is somebody who has had everything
24:32He's been through a lot of things, but to have that moment,
24:38I genuinely see a difference and perhaps a humility
24:42that could have come about no other way
24:45that God is using in his life.
24:47And I agree with you.
24:48And that was the moment, by the way,
24:49that I was all in, in terms of thinking,
24:53okay, there's something spiritual,
24:56even more than we recognize, in that moment in Butler,
25:00was when it wasn't just about the worldview,
25:03it was okay, I'm gonna get behind supporting him personally,
25:07again, not withstanding all of the other things
25:10or things we disagree with or whatever.
25:13But to see this, I agree with you that as the New Testament
25:17admonishes us, we should pray for our leaders.
25:20But we need to pray not just in a policy sense
25:23or help them make the right decisions
25:26and those kinds of things,
25:27but for their personal lives as well
25:30because the sovereign power of the Lord can move kings.
25:35And we're seeing that in real time,
25:37which is truly amazing.
25:39Amen.
25:40Now I want to invite you,
25:42and this is, I wasn't looking for this guys, y'all know.
25:45I just mind my business.
25:46I'm just trying to go about life,
25:48do my thing, not bother anybody, you know?
25:50But I couldn't help but notice the response
25:53from many antagonists.
25:55I would say people motivated by an anti-Christ orientation
25:58that their first response
26:00and even some people didn't even get the vernacular right
26:02but said this is a violation of the separation of church seat in the
26:05declaration of independence
26:08this violation wrong document that they have
26:11will get there yet
26:12this violation
26:15hu hu
26:16jenna ellis madam
26:18lawyer attorney
26:21is what we just witnessed prayer
26:24to begin the
26:26first cabinet meeting of the president's
26:28term
26:29was that a violation of the separation of state
26:31rezoundingly now
26:33and first of all separation of church and state is not only not in the
26:36declaration but it's not even in the constitution well
26:39so you know that is going to be the choir right now so i'm just you go and i'll
26:43be back on the right time you have to rent but but this whole notion
26:48that
26:49public government
26:51equals secular and equals a moral and equals we can't
26:56acknowledge the truth of our savior
26:58is nowhere in the history tradition
27:01or the legal precedent or the textual document whatsoever.
27:05The First Amendment allows us and protects our God-given right
27:11to freely exercise our faith in faith is belief plus action.
27:15So it doesn't just protect our private thoughts
27:18and our right to believe.
27:19I have a right to worship.
27:20I wouldn't hear that before.
27:23But also our ability to act.
27:25And as the Apostle Paul recognized that faith without works is dead, meaning if you believe
27:32you will act on it, we will live what we believe.
27:37And so the Constitution says government, you can't interfere in the free exercise.
27:44And what they're doing in this meeting is the free exercise of religion that you don't
27:48hand over your right when you accept elected office or when you go into a cabinet meeting
27:54at the Oval Office, you don't turn over your guide given, constitutionally protected, right
28:00to freely exercise your religion at the door of the White House.
28:05So absolutely no.
28:07And I have to continue to drill down on this.
28:11This is one of the things that we both tee up rather frequently.
28:15And it's just evidence of the palpable ignorance that I would argue that has been intentionally
28:20forced it upon the American people to cause us to view, to self-sensor, you know, to truncate
28:27our concept of what it means to be believers in the land where God has planted us and to
28:32forfeit rights that God has given us, not least of which to mention that I believe one of the
28:37most insidious things that is transpired is to cultivate a legal framework to where we
28:43attempt to assess, interpret and apply the U.S. Constitution with complete devoid of any consideration
28:49of the Declaration of Independence.
28:51I think that is one of the most egregious things
28:53that are transpired because the founders clearly viewed
28:56themselves as articulating a document
28:59that is implementing the vision articulated first and foremost
29:02in the Declaration of Independence.
29:03Yes, and in fact, my book that I wrote 10 years ago this year,
29:08which is crazy, it's been that long,
29:10makes that exact argument.
29:11The legal basis for a moral constitution
29:14because the declaration is the mandate.
29:17It's the world view statement.
29:18the recognition of self-evident truth of our rights being pre-political, they are God-given,
29:25and the so legitimate purpose of governments being instituted among men is to protect those
29:30rights.
29:31And then the Constitution says, well, how can we best do that?
29:35So we will separate and limit powers.
29:37We'll have a federal system.
29:38We'll have, as you always say, and I love how you express this, elements of democracy
29:42within a constitutional republic, and so that we don't have all power of government invested
29:47in one individual or even one branch or one agency.
29:52We have to separate them so that they don't become tyrannical.
29:56And so the Constitution, so many people said, well, Jenna, God is nowhere in the Constitution.
30:00Absolutely is, because we wouldn't have the Constitution without the declaration.
30:04And the declaration provided that mandate, the Constitution is simply the system by which
30:10we get there.
30:10And so you can have X, but you got to have the content.
30:14you have may have the content but if you don't have the social media platform to
30:18put it out
30:19then it won't be disseminated so so you have the mandate you have the content
30:23that you have to have the vehicle the constitution is simply the vehicle
30:26for protecting our pre-political rights right and and
30:29it's amazing because
30:31uh... the connection between the declaration of independence also it
30:34elevates that the declarations
30:36four-time reference to the creator to the creator to the creator
30:39and in the introductory paragraph of our constitution the preamble
30:43that it's ordained and established to do what?
30:45To secure the blessings of liberty,
30:47to ourselves and to our posterity.
30:49Well, what is implied when there are blessings articulated?
30:52That there is a blesser.
30:53So people who say that are intentionally separating
30:57the concepts of blessings having the origination source,
30:59who say that a constitution is godless.
31:02It's just simply not true.
31:03So, in closing, closing argument council.
31:06Closing argument, know the constitution,
31:09know where your rights come from,
31:10be able to articulate that argument and don't buy into the false myth of the separation of
31:15church and state so that you don't self-sensor and so that you can stand up and advocate for
31:19truth and we need to be ambassadors for Christ everywhere and I'm so grateful that President
31:26Trump is being an ambassador for Christ.
31:28This is amazing.
31:29That is amazing.
31:30What you want to hear more of this, I know it.
31:33So don't go anywhere.
31:34Jenna's going to be with us for another segment and we're going to continue to delve down some
31:38the things that are transpiring some of the things on the docket the Washington
31:41Post Jeff Bezos is going on with him he's announced that their opinion page is
31:46going to be a little bit different going forward but journalists are freaking out
31:49all over the country including now former Washington Post journalist stay close
31:54you don't want to miss the rest of the show the Hamilton quarter podcast and one
32:09bit of common terrors are available at aFR.net back to the Hamilton court on
32:14American Family Radio.
32:17Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton the third.
32:20I am joined not in studio, but on the exhibit hall floor at the 2025 National Religious Broadcaster's
32:27Convention.
32:28My guest is none other than the host of Jenna Ellis in the morning, Jenna Ellis.
32:31In between conversations with you all, we were having conversations during the break.
32:37And I want to toss a going zone at happening, a little bit of foolishness du jour, your way,
32:43because Jeff Bezos of Amazon fame.
32:46You know who apparently likes to have
32:49inappropriate clad accompaniment to the inauguration.
32:51We want to talk about that right now.
32:53But he is also the owner of The Washington Post.
32:56And he issued an email today to his staff
33:02that said the following.
33:03And I want to get your reaction to it.
33:04Quote, this is Jeff Bezos writing to the staff
33:06at The Washington Post.
33:07Quote, we are going to be writing every day
33:11in support and defense of two pillars,
33:14personal liberties and free markets.
33:17We'll cover other topics too, of course,
33:19but viewpoints opposing those pillars
33:22will be left to be published by others end quote.
33:26Now again, this is what Jeff Bezos is instructing
33:29for the opinion page of the newspaper that he owns
33:33that every day they're gonna be writing
33:35in defense and support of personal liberties
33:39and free markets, Jenna, what is going on?
33:42What is your response to this?
33:44First of all, I don't know how any opinion editor
33:48could object to that.
33:49Like this is America.
33:50I mean, we're all about free markets and personal liberties.
33:53And even if the left wants to twist personal liberty
33:56into some of their licentiousness and all of that,
33:59I mean, aren't we for liberty and freedom and choice?
34:02And yet, as we were talking about in the break,
34:06the opinion editor then resigns over this
34:09because somehow this is so offensive.
34:11But I think this is hilarious because it shows
34:14that the left is not genuinely about advancing liberty.
34:18They're not about advancing freedom and saying,
34:20oh, you on the right with your Christian worldview,
34:22you're just the oppressors and all this.
34:24No, they're the ones that want to restrict liberty.
34:28They want to compel speech, which as we were talking about
34:31last time, that's actually a violation
34:33of the First Amendment, right?
34:34For the government to tell you what you can't do
34:37and also what you must do in terms of speech
34:39and exercise of faith.
34:41And so this is a hilarious moment
34:44that is crystallizing what the left is actually about.
34:50And what's fascinating to me is that Jeff Bezos
34:52is not coming from a Christian worldview.
34:54He's not coming from a place of philanthropic generosity here.
35:00I firmly believe that Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg,
35:04all of these others would not be in this position and saying these things if Kamala Harris were
35:10in the White House.
35:11Who?
35:12Right.
35:13Kamala, who?
35:14We've turned the page.
35:15She, you shall never be president the Regent.
35:16She, you should not be named.
35:18Or Governor of California, please, let's just put that out there.
35:22And so the question is, is this just temporary or maybe are we seeing the Bud Light phenomenon
35:31of wow.
35:32actually care about our bottom line and jeff basis is waking up to the fact
35:36that his own readership wants
35:39liberty free market content
35:41and it
35:43you know and into the point that you made just to bring the story full circle the
35:47uh... the then current as of this morning
35:49editor of the opinion page i want to emphasize that
35:53jeff basils isn't saying that this is what the news reporters are obligated to
35:57report
35:57he's saying articles
35:59that are opinion pieces
36:01have to all publications all newspapers have their hard journalism and then you
36:05have their opinion pieces of the new york and
36:09well i'm putting that up at the new york slop that that's absolutely right
36:12but david shipli
36:14resigned in protest
36:16he cannot stand such
36:18egregious encroachments upon his journalistic profession
36:22jf base those two comments and
36:24sir dia sir david i do not require of you
36:29to add new content to the editorial page of the paper
36:32that I own, I do pay your salary good sir,
36:35and you are invited to continue on your position,
36:37but only only upon the condition
36:39that you comply with my expectation.
36:42But it is so offensive to the notions
36:43of American journalism.
36:45Heaven forbid we talk about liberty.
36:47Oh no.
36:48Because George Washington and the founders
36:50would be fully rolling over in their graves right now
36:53if they knew what is so offensive
36:56to the Washington Post.
36:58how dare they go that direction.
36:59Yeah, so some, I mean, again, to be, to try to provide a breath of coverage here, you have
37:05some who I would classify as regressives that are saying that, no, what you're tr, you're
37:09transforming the Washington Post into the Wall Street Journal by doing things like this.
37:14You're making this into a new publication.
37:17Good.
37:18I mean, right?
37:19Good.
37:20I'm all for that.
37:21Yeah.
37:22Like we didn't need the old Washington Post.
37:23were so biased and ridiculous and you want to talk about misinformation.
37:28But that's where I think the left believes that they have a corner on the
37:34market, they're not interested in the free market and they have a corner.
37:38Right.
37:40Because they have been the gatekeeper of legacy media and of media in general and
37:45and of media in general, and of the thought process
37:50and the worldview that was acceptable in American society,
37:55and tell that, I mean, this is why journalists
37:56are freaking out that President Trump
37:59is allowing non-legacy media into the briefing room
38:03to ask questions.
38:04And when you only have video of it,
38:07but you actually can't be there to ask questions in person,
38:10then there's still an element of gatekeeping,
38:12because then you can only report on what was actually spoken.
38:14And so this is a whole new world of media.
38:19And I think it's fascinating that's happening
38:20as we're at the National Religious Broadcasters Convention,
38:23because we should be encouraging more speech,
38:27and we should be encouraging,
38:27yeah, get rid of the old Washington Post.
38:29This is a good thing, and I applaud Bezos
38:31for like, yeah, liberty and free markets.
38:33Like, we should all agree on that,
38:35even if we're not even conservative
38:38or Christian, just fundamentally Americans,
38:40we were built on some of these principles.
38:43Yeah. So what do you think? You alluded to this earlier. You know, Mark Zuckerberg called
38:48him Zuckerberg Bucks. I mean, you saw he had his gold chain swinging and he had his bro
38:51fro, you know, I would his black t shirt. He all of a sudden is concerned about the crushing
38:57of speech and Jeff Bezos all of a sudden. And you mentioned that if President Trump had
39:01not been elected, they wouldn't be doing this. What do you think? And I know this is called
39:05a speculation, but I just want to know what your thoughts might be.
39:08And judging counsel, well, you're on, I'm just asking for context for the answer that
39:11question.
39:12All right.
39:13Hypothetically.
39:14Hypothetically.
39:14Yes.
39:15Yes.
39:15Hypothetically, if we were together.
39:17Well, of course, Zuckerberg didn't write Jim Jordan
39:23and talk about the whole me culpa of actually going along
39:27with Biden until it was pretty clear that Trump
39:30was in a very good position.
39:31I think he wanted to set himself up
39:34to be able to distance from being the agent of the Biden
39:39government to foist censorship on Americans.
39:42And so it was a, oh, I was a willing participant
39:46when that was the status quo in DC.
39:49And now all of a sudden, oh, I was compelled against my,
39:52well, I don't buy that at all.
39:53And so I take what he is doing now
39:57with a huge grain of salt.
39:59And I think that we can't,
40:01it's not that they're not acting in good faith,
40:03but I think that they're acting in self-preservation
40:06more than they are genuinely concerned about the future of media and free speech and all
40:13of this, which is why we need to remain eternally vigilant and use the next four years to get
40:18good policies in place that if Zuckerbucks suddenly decides to flip a switch in the next
40:24four years, we won't have the same type of Twitter file phenomenon again.
40:30Yeah, well said.
40:31Well said.
40:32thing that happened and happening in the news that you had just the recent passage
40:36in the House of Representatives of a budget which is not regular order not a
40:41budgetary process another one of those bills that give me pause pause that led
40:49congressman Thomas Massey to go on X and he explained that the GOP passed budget
40:55increases the deficit by three hundred billion dollars a year and will add 20
40:59trillion to the U.S. debt according to Congressman Massey. What do you think about this financial
41:07matter that was passed in the House? Well, I love Congressman Massey and I think that he
41:11is spot on. I love his ticker showing showing the U.S. debt, which is just awful. And I think
41:18this on face appears very hypocritical of Congress to on one hand be applauding Doge and now saying,
41:26Oh, but here we're going to pass this budget reconciliation.
41:29Now, I had Congressman Brandon Gill from Texas, where we're at right now, on my program earlier
41:35talking about this.
41:36And I asked him these questions, and I'd encourage listeners, if you weren't listening this morning,
41:40listen to him because he's a conservative.
41:43He's actually Dinesh D'Souza's son-in-law, just for context.
41:46I mean, he's solidly an he's a Christian, all of this.
41:49And he voted for it.
41:51And he said the reason is because we have to go through the reconciliation process of
41:54of appropriations that will get passed by the Senate.
41:57These are things that were funding like border security
41:59and other things that we need.
42:01So he took a different tack and I think there was some
42:06understanding in that of why conservatives were for this.
42:11My view, I wasn't entirely convinced in all honesty of,
42:15okay, well then the whole thing is fine.
42:17The big beautiful bill as Trump calls it.
42:20I think we still need to question why are we spending
42:22outrageous sums of money on all of these things and kind of go through it in a
42:28line-by-line and the budget, first of all, should balance at the end of the day, but
42:34let doge do the work and also let's not take so much money from the American people
42:38and spend on things that none of us really want, none of us care about, so I'm
42:43still skeptical ultimately. I am very skeptical and I don't understand why
42:51why there is an inability, dare I say,
42:53an unwillingness to return a regular order
42:56to where you have a transparent budgetary process
42:58where we have the separate appropriations bills
43:01that are passed and to your point about the hypocrisy.
43:04How can we doge and dive at the same time?
43:07I don't get it.
43:08I don't get it.
43:09How do you doge and dive at the exact same time?
43:12Now, I understand what Congressman Gill
43:15was saying to you this morning,
43:17but the reconciliation process is another thing
43:19that gives me great pause,
43:20because though the house passes the bill in this form,
43:23what happens in reconciliation?
43:25Well, you have certain senators, if you will,
43:28that say, well, we'll keep the spending,
43:30and how about we get rid of the cuts?
43:31Yeah.
43:32How about we get rid of the cuts,
43:35and then that ends up being the lasting bill?
43:38You know, is that, do you think that that's an unfounded
43:41concern, and maybe if you will provide just an overview
43:45what the reconciliation process is,
43:46for those who may not understand what it is?
43:47Well, and you know, and Congressman Gell spoke to it,
43:50and in all honesty, I think the process itself
43:55is designed to be almost a passing of the buck
43:59because the House now can say,
44:01well, we have to pass this bill
44:04in the form of reconciliation
44:05so that it will go to the Senate and they can work on it,
44:08and the Senate will say,
44:09well, we can only work with what the House gave us,
44:11and we have to do these cuts in order to pass the budget,
44:15and it's gone through the budget committees,
44:17And so there's all kinds of ways that people can blame shift.
44:20And so I think the entire process as it is set up
44:24is purposefully designed to distribute the blame
44:28so that no individual Republican or Democrat
44:32has to actually claim, well, I was behind this
44:36when really we know that Congress
44:37doesn't want to cut its own fat.
44:39I mean, this is why Congress has not called
44:43for an amendment for term limits, for balancing the budget,
44:47for judicial reform, which they can do
44:49through the Judiciary Act.
44:51Yes, Article III.
44:52And yeah, and they can do so much that they won't,
44:56and this is the uni-party now.
44:58This is Republicans and Democrats are all guilty of this.
45:02They are not doing what is in the best interest
45:05of the American people.
45:06They are not being public servants.
45:08They are doing what is in their own self-interest,
45:11but they're able to say, this is the process,
45:15and we have to go along with it,
45:17because that's just how it's done.
45:20And I don't buy that for a second.
45:23And I don't believe the American people should buy that.
45:25You know, we get the government that we deserve.
45:28And, you know, I like Congressman Massey.
45:33I like Congressman Gill.
45:35But I have to tell you, I'm tired of the same old, same old.
45:38The reason why we need those is because of bills
45:41just like this. Because of Bill just like this. I understand. I mean, everybody here
45:45knows this, listens to the show. I know Congressman, the Speaker of the House
45:49Johnson personally, and he's a godly man. You know, he is, he's responsible for a lot
45:54of amazing things that have happened in my life. But I'm just saying, as an
45:58American citizen, it's frustrating to me that these things happen over and over
46:02and over again, while at the exact same time, you have Elon Musk presenting to
46:07the cabinet, the necessity for doge and getting rid of this massive deficit that we have to
46:14wear the interest that we pay on our debt is larger than our defense spending.
46:20Think about that.
46:21We spend more on the interest of the national debt than we do in investing in Pete Heg's
46:26says department to war fight to protect our nation.
46:29If an individual family ran its own budget the way that the federal government does, you'd
46:34be in trouble with the IRS, you would be bankrupt.
46:39There is no way an individual family could function
46:42the way the government does.
46:43So how are they being good stewards of our money?
46:46And the answer to that, Abe, is they're not.
46:48But Republicans won't stand up and actually say,
46:51you know what, it may hurt some of my initiatives,
46:54but I'm willing to actually be a public servant at this point.
46:57We lost that whole concept.
46:59And that's a problem.
47:00And if we don't get it back now,
47:01I think this could be the last chance we have to get it back.
47:04I think so too.
47:05And I think the American people may be the missing piece
47:07to encourage our servant leaders.
47:10No, we're not going along with the same old same old.
47:12We need to go back to the drawing board if that's necessary
47:15and present a clean measure.
47:16Keep the government operating as necessary.
47:18Cut where it needs to be cut.
47:20But we can't keep having these things
47:21that are gonna blow up our debt and deficit even the more.
47:24Yet do it under the name of,
47:25well, we just had to get it done.
47:27Shift blame sufficiently where nobody's accountable for.
47:29Necessity is what we need to define for sure,
47:33just so much is so unnecessary.
47:40Thanks, babe.
47:41The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American
47:46Family Association or American Family Radio.

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