November 26, 2024 · 51:55

Guest Host, Alex McFarland, is joined by Historian & Author, Dr. Larry Schweikart

Culture & Media

Show notes

Guest Host, Alex McFarland, is joined by Historian & Author, Dr. Larry Schweikart www.afaaction.net/life To donate call : 877-616-2396

References & links

Phone lines mentioned

877-616-2396

Full transcript Auto-generated · 8,408 words

Transcribed with OpenAI Whisper (base.en). Timestamps are approximate. Lightly cleaned for readability; quotations from on-air callers may include filler words. Use the audio player above for the authoritative recording.

0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
0:03It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
0:07This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
0:11It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite.
0:15Delivery people out of the bondage of mainstream media.
0:18And the philosophies of this world.
0:20God has called you and me to be his ambassador.
0:24Even in this dark moment.
0:26Let's not miss our moment.
0:29and now the Hamilton Corner.
0:31Well, good evening America.
0:34Alex McFarland here, you're listening to the American Family Radio Network.
0:38The Hamilton Corner Show and I've got the privilege of sitting in tonight for attorney,
0:43pastor, broadcaster Abe Hamilton the third.
0:48And it's my privilege to frequently sit in if Abe is on the road or traveling.
0:53And so we've got a great show tonight.
0:56In just a few moments we're going to hear from Dr. Larry Schweikert, he's an author, historian,
1:02retired professor from the University of Dayton.
1:07You don't want to miss this program because we're going to get some great content from
1:11Dr. Larry Schweikert.
1:13I've admired his work for many years.
1:15As we begin the program tonight, first of all, I want to say that Thanksgiving week, and I
1:21trust that you're all set for something very special.
1:24I do hope each and every one of you get to spend some time with family and loved ones.
1:29And look, all of us need to pause for our busy life and thank the Lord for all the blessings.
1:36We've got life and salvation.
1:39I hope you know Christ as your Savior, but as Americans.
1:43You know, I have to say I love this country.
1:46It's been my privilege to travel much of the world and we are so blessed here in America.
1:52And I think we have potential for a great future and we've got a lot to bow our heads
1:58and thank God for.
1:59And I hope you'll be very intentional and make time to do that.
2:03You know, as I was prepping for today's issues this morning and the program tonight, in the
2:09news says Walmart is rolling back some DEI policies and some corporate standards they
2:17had said about diversity, equity, and inclusion that they are rolling back, also much in the
2:24news about the imposition of DEI and wokeness.
2:30There's going on the men in women's sports and transgenderism.
2:36And just a lot of things that mitigate against, not only, our constitutional natural law
2:43republic but things that mitigate against common sense itself. Well we're gonna
2:49talk about this and let me I want to queue this up because I've really wanted to do
2:52this for a long time. A number of years ago I very often when book titles catch
2:59my eye I really want to dive in and look at the content and then the author and I
3:04got a book some years ago 48 liberal wise about American history that you
3:10probably learned in school. And I looked into that book and indeed as a K through 12 and then my first
3:17undergrad degree was at a public university. I did learn a lot of liberal lies about American
3:23history and I enjoyed that book and then later on I got a Patriots history of the United States.
3:30Now both of these books were by Dr. Larry Schweichert who at that time was at the University of Dayton
3:37And I became a fan of this historian, and he is with us tonight, and just in, as we get towards
3:44Thanksgiving, talking about our nation past and present, it's a great privilege to have him with us.
3:51Dr. Larry Schweikert, I want to thank you for making time to be with us tonight, and I also want to
3:57say just thank you for your work using academics to expand the knowledge base of American citizens,
4:05and really contribute to the betterment of our country.
4:09So I thank you and it's privilege to have you on.
4:13Well, thank you.
4:14You know, it's good to be on.
4:15And I just traveled the road I was given
4:18and kind of walked where I was shown.
4:21I made a abrupt transition to history
4:24from being a rock and roll drummer for a number of years,
4:27which we were talking about before the show a little bit.
4:30But I got a story to tell you about 48 liberal lives.
4:34When it came out, which is I think around 2007, 2008, something like that, I was immediately
4:41snapped up by Fox and friends to come on every Wednesday morning for a little segment
4:46called The Trouble with Textbooks.
4:49And I pull out one of these lies every week.
4:51We talk about it for, they started me off at like one or two minutes and finally we're
4:56ending like around five or six minutes per segment.
4:58So you have to be pretty popular.
5:00Anyway, I get a call.
5:01And the guy goes, this is Harlan Crow of Dallas, Texas.
5:06And I did a little research quickly and realized it was Trammo Crow Holdings, one of the biggest
5:12land operations in Texas, the guy who had really supported Justice Clarence Thomas.
5:19And he said, I won't give a copy of your book to every legislator.
5:23And I thought, wow, 535 copies sold.
5:26That's awesome.
5:27He said, no.
5:29Every legislator in America.
5:31I think this guy's nuts, right?
5:33Well, you know, that's going to cost a lot of money.
5:35And he goes, well, how much do you think $100,000 will get us?
5:39And you know, I'm silently shaking my head on the other end of the line.
5:44So he bought 7,680 hardcover copies of that book.
5:49And over a three-day period in Dayton, Ohio at the Montgomery County Republican Party headquarters,
5:55I signed and autographed all 7,680 copies.
5:59We sent one to every legislator in America.
6:03God bless you for signing all those books and God bless him for wanting to send those out.
6:08That is really great.
6:10And hey, just the fact that you would sign all those and help get that project done, you're
6:16a very conscientious person and I appreciate that.
6:20Did you get any feedback from the recipients?
6:23You know, it was really funny.
6:25We got one book returned to us from the Speaker of the House of the Kentucky Legislature at
6:29time a Democrat who said I can't accept this this is an illegal campaign contribution.
6:35Oh my goodness oh my goodness well listen I do want to hear your story before we go too
6:41much farther give your website or give us an assignment professor you can do that you're
6:47an educator and we are learning from you tonight so any website you want to point us to or any
6:53homework assignment you'd care to give.
6:58well yes that some of my website
7:00one of the wild world of history dot
7:04wild world of history dot com
7:06and the other if you're more politically inclined and want more my uh...
7:10uh... fiery political rhetoric and so forth is the wild world of politics dot com
7:16and what we're doing on the wild world of history is inviting people to send us
7:20and email at all larry at wild world of history dot com
7:25and just tell us two or three of what you think are the most important events
7:29in american history and somehow we're going to use that on the site
7:33we already got a few and so we're gonna
7:35we're gonna use it and uh... you know don't worry about the writing will find
7:38a way to
7:39to spruce up to make it like shakespeare
7:43uh... i've got to ask you a question uh...
7:46why do liberals
7:48hate america
7:52you know
7:54you my wife my many my best friend you know at that question
7:58all the time and i really can't help you i mean my my go-to response is
8:04they're basically a few
8:06and there is a guy out there if you don't know him
8:09ryan berg b u r g e
8:12he has a sub stack uh... about once a week
8:15and he delves into the religious uh... statistics of america
8:20better than anybody i've ever seen
8:22and uh... he shows this very very high correlation
8:27between democrats and
8:29a few years and or as he called them the none's not like flying them like
8:34sally fields but you know in e s no real no religion listed
8:39and
8:40so there does seem to be a correlation between no faith in god and
8:46and
8:47liberalism
8:48uh... i can't explain it anymore than uh... than that
8:52Yeah. Well, you know, it seems like there's this self-loathing. And you know, Dr. Schweichert,
9:00in the mid-80s, I was an undergrad at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro, and I was
9:07not a Christian yet, and didn't really know much about anything. I loved the National Anthem
9:15at the Ball Games, and to the knowledge degree that I had at the time, I cared about America.
9:21But I remember all my professors hated Ronald Reagan.
9:27This was the mid-80s.
9:28And I saw this recurrent theme.
9:32My professors hated Reagan, hated Jesse Helms, who was the North Carolina Senator at that
9:39time, very conservative, hated Jerry Falwell.
9:43And it just seemed like I could predict that, look, if it was moral, religious, patriotic,
9:53I just knew my professors were going to trash it on the other side.
9:57If it was John Lennon, the Beatles, Jim Morrison, LSD, liberal, Abby Hoffman, I knew they were
10:04going to love it.
10:06And I just thought, wait a minute here.
10:09all like against everything that I was raised to care about.
10:14I mean to talk so much about the book, The Book, The Liberal Lies, but since you mentioned
10:23that aspect, what I did when I did that book was I looked at the top 20 U.S. history college
10:31and senior high school textbooks and looked at what they had to say about these 48 different
10:37But I said in the, I think it's the introduction that if you want a quick and dirty check on
10:44how reliable a textbook is, go in the index to Reagan and see what they say about Ronald Reagan.
10:51I called it at the time the pregnancy test of the textbook because if they got Reagan wrong,
10:57they were probably going to get many of the other things in the book wrong as well.
11:01And I think it was John Stewart who was pretty big at the time.
11:05He thought that was pretty funny and he took that and showed a picture of Reagan pregnant.
11:11But it is a fact that you don't have to dig through a whole textbook to find out it's
11:17biased.
11:18Go right to the Reagan section and they'll tell you if they don't get Reagan right they're
11:22not going to get much else right.
11:24Now, who influenced you?
11:26Were you, did you grow up conservative or through your own study?
11:31How did you arrive at the intellectual perspectives that you have and have written about so prolifically?
11:38Well, up through high school, I don't recall anybody who really influenced me.
11:45I just kind of naturally gravitated toward Nixon in 1968, which is my first vote.
11:51And then I went on the road with several rock and roll bands and didn't pay much attention to politics for probably eight or nine years.
11:59And then abruptly I came back to Phoenix and wanted to have a full-time gig where I could
12:06play rock and roll at nine and do something else during the day to bring in some money.
12:11And I already had a degree from Arizona State in political science and so I thought, well,
12:16I'll teach high school, I'll be an easy gig or a junior high or something like that.
12:20So when I went to get my teaching certificate, stage of Arizona said, well, you're missing
12:26one thing. You've got a BA degree but you don't have a course in US history and you
12:31must have that to teach in Arizona. So I went back to a summer school class sometime around
12:391976 in the summer and my instructor was this very, very conservative Jew, not quite orthodox
12:48but very, very conservative. And he was rolling out names I never heard of like Milton Friedman
12:56and and and uh... lu did run me this and for a direct hi at all these people
13:01and all of us were captivated we had a coterie we called ourselves
13:06lo and birdians because we followed him around and hung on his every word of
13:10something none of us had ever heard before
13:13and he influenced my uh...
13:15intellectual academic
13:17move
13:18more than anybody else ever i mean in a six week course i decided right then and
13:23there I wanted to be a history professor.
13:26Well, so let me ask you this, William F. Buckley Jr., I feel like he's a name that should not
13:39be forgotten.
13:41Tell me about, first of all, what do you think he would think about Trump?
13:49i met
13:50buckley
13:51when you came to uh...
13:53sent a barber while i was uh... they're doing my graduate work
13:57and because i was an older student like i said played in rock bands for so long i
14:02came back as
14:03you know mid-twenty a little bit older than some of the students
14:06and uh...
14:07they put me in charge of
14:10the young republicans fundraiser
14:12uh... and the fundraising was we brought we met buckley
14:16home and barber
14:17hey hold up thought for good night on
14:19i'm so so we've got a break with uh... folks great show here we're talking
14:23with dr larry schweicher
14:25yeah hold up thought we come back on here that the rest of this but this is
14:29allergman farland
14:31one of the great books of our time to patriots guide to american history so
14:35much more
14:36the wild world of history dot com
14:39what a great website what a great u r l
14:42stay tuned the hamilton corner on the american family radio network is
14:45going to be back after this brief break.
14:48And on this Thanksgiving week, may God bless you,
14:51may God bless America, will continue learning
14:54from Dr. Larry Schweichert after this break.
15:00A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker.
15:03The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy.
15:08I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.
15:11I am the good shepherd.
15:12The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
15:15Verses 10 and 11 of John chapter 10.
15:18Jesus is the good and the great shepherd.
15:21He's the greatest shepherd there ever was.
15:23He's a shepherd that can be trusted.
15:24John chapter 12 verse 49,
15:27for I have not spoken on my own authority,
15:30but the Father who sent me gave me a command,
15:34what I should say and what I should speak.
15:36The Lord Jesus Christ Himself in His earthly ministry
15:39continually trusted His heavenly Father.
15:42His heavenly Father, His great shepherd
15:45for wisdom, for guidance, and direction,
15:47at every step of his life.
15:49He wasn't trying to do his own thing.
15:51He was simply trying to follow his Heavenly Father.
15:54And Jesus again, stands as a great role model for each of us.
16:00I'm Rick Starbera, and this is my take.
16:03On November 5th, the American people spoke.
16:06It was a resounding victory for all conservatives
16:08and for conservative Christians in particular.
16:11The part of it one stood for America's founding values
16:14and said, no to abortion, no to biological men
16:17participated in women's sports and sharing locker room facilities.
16:21The party that won said no to those extreme views on the transgender issue, including government-sponsored,
16:28transgender-affirming surgery for inmates, and no to an open border that's been the gateway
16:33to anyone or anything coming into America, including violent criminals, the importation
16:39of drugs, human trafficking, and more.
16:41The party that won said yes to deportation of illegal aliens, beginning with those who
16:47have criminal records. Friends, this election forced Americans to take a position for or against
16:53today O'Christian values and constitutional principles. I'm Rick Scarborough and that's my take.
17:05Shiting light into the darkness, this is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
17:11Folks, in all sincerity, and it's been my privilege to interview hundreds of people,
17:16many great people. But tonight is something I've thought about for a long time to interview
17:22Dr. Larry Schweikert. PhD from UC Santa Barbara, professor of history, University of Dayton.
17:30He was queuing up a story about meeting William F. Buckley, and I wanted him to finish that.
17:36So Dr. Schweikert, first of all, thank you so much for being with us tonight and thank you
17:41for the body of work you've created in utter sincerity. I am deeply grateful for the work
17:48you've done and I'm one of the beneficiaries of it. But I want you to finish, you were with
17:53the Young Republicans and you brought William F. Buckley Jr. to your campus. Tell us that
18:00story if you would.
18:01So I was put in charge of the club to bring him in and he is an amazing or was an amazing
18:11piano player.
18:12We put him up at, there was a very wealthy people and said, oh, we will, we have a guest
18:18house and we'll put him in our guest house.
18:20Well, so we take him over to the house and he sees a grand piano in there and he immediately
18:25sits down and just starts to play incredible music, which is how I relieve tension.
18:31I just play this.
18:33But he told me something I always kept with me.
18:37And this is advice I give to everybody
18:40who wants to be a writer of any sort,
18:42historian but any kind of writer.
18:44And I said, how do you write so much?
18:47Because you write a column at least once a week
18:50for National Review, sometimes a couple.
18:52You're the editor of National Review,
18:54but you also have your novel series of Blackford Oaks.
18:58It was kind of a secret agent that he invented
19:00and wrote numerous novels.
19:03And he said, well, you know, I get up in the morning.
19:05Now this is, remember, this is in the 80s.
19:07As I get up in the morning, I brush my teeth
19:09and I sit down at the typewriter.
19:12And I thought that was the best advice
19:14I ever heard for writers.
19:16If you want to be a writer, you must write.
19:19You must write everything.
19:20I wrote music reviews for a hippie newspaper here in Phoenix,
19:26which allowed me to go see Led Zeppelin
19:29free was a horrible concert i couldn't believe how bad they were
19:33uh... i wrote plus the teacher is a lot of people
19:38yeah well it it was just that
19:40they were so drug that drunk that night it was just a terrible concert
19:45uh... i wrote editorial on this that
19:49everything that the point is
19:51if you want to write that's going to be more or less your profession
19:54you need to write all the time if you're a golfer, you play golf all the time, right?
19:59So I thought that was very important advice from him.
20:04And we had a great evening, and what do you think of Trump?
20:09William F. Buckley was a patrician, and he was of the upper class and the elites,
20:15even though he famously said he'd rather be governed by the first 500 names
20:20in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty.
20:24He personally was a patrician elite and he was still smart enough, I think, to understand
20:33not only Trump's appeal but the necessity of a Donald Trump in today's politics.
20:39Ronald Reagan probably couldn't get elected today because of his style and his approach.
20:45We're in a much coarser period and many of the niceties and the fineries that someone like
20:54Reagan and Bill Buckley observed are not available anymore.
20:59You may regret that, but they just aren't.
21:01That's the reality of modern politics and Trump is.
21:04And so Trump is to today what Lincoln was in his day, what FDR was in his day, and what
21:11Reagan was in his day.
21:15By the way, this is fascinating and I feel very privileged to glean your experiences
21:21because you've been around long enough to watch the trajectory, not only of American
21:26politics but of American conservatism in the last 40 years.
21:33Before we forget William F. Buckley, it's interesting and folks, I encourage you, go
21:37online and watch old episodes of Firing Line, which was the show Buckley had on NPR because
21:45First of all, they were an hour long,
21:47and they would delve into really deep conversation,
21:52the atheist Christopher Hitchens,
21:55whom I debated on several occasions,
21:57and I interviewed him on several occasions.
22:01But Buckley would have on somebody that was an ideological
22:06opposite, like an atheist, like Hitchens,
22:10but yet they would have very in-depth,
22:12respectful discourse back and forth.
22:15And all of that to say this,
22:18nowadays we're so soundbite driven
22:21and everything seems kind of like hyper ADD.
22:24Do you think a show like firing line could exist today?
22:29Or could a slow, well-spoken,
22:32patrician like William F. Buckley Jr.,
22:35would he have a platform if he were coming on the scene in 2024?
22:40Well, the answer to the first question is yes, we have those.
22:45They're called Joe Rogan Podcast.
22:48We have long-form interviews all over the web.
22:52And some of them are fairly well-spoken, airy, dyed, slower.
22:59But that's just not modern culture.
23:03And it's going to be harder to attract an audience anymore.
23:07the reality today is that you need to attract an audience to stay on the air.
23:12But, it was interesting, I learned this from him and it surprised me to talking about why
23:18he did speeches.
23:19And he said, I do the speeches to keep national review and publication because we would never
23:25make it if we had to rely on subscriptions and donors.
23:30Well, is national review ideologically, or are they still today true to his vision, do
23:38you think?
23:40I don't know what they're true to.
23:44They lost almost every conservative principle when Trump was in office the first time, because
23:53whatever Trump was for, including all those things that were conservative, whether it
23:57was restricting abortion or whether it was
24:03voter integrity or whether it was
24:05to stay out of foreign wars, they were against.
24:10And they have sold themselves out so badly today,
24:14I think Buckley probably would have resigned
24:17from the organization.
24:18Yeah, yeah.
24:20That's one of the subject.
24:21And I'd love to talk in depth
24:25on the current state of national review,
24:28and but I wanna go to some of these.
24:30Yeah, I lose your sense.
24:31No, I'm here, can you hear me?
24:33Are you there?
24:35Are you there?
24:38Hey.
24:39I'm not hearing you, I think I lost you.
24:41Uh oh.
24:42Well, I hope you can hear me.
24:45I'm gonna, let me communicate with my producer here
24:47and make sure that we're still on.
24:49Oh.
24:51Okay, Dr. Schweikert, let's try to get him back
24:57back because apparently we've got a little connection problem there. So Alex McFarland
25:07here, I'm going to read a quote and hopefully we'll get Dr. Schweikert back on, but this is
25:13a great quote from one of his books. He says this, quote, so many left-wing historians
25:22fail to understand what every colonial settler and every western pioneer understood character
25:30was tied to liberty and liberty to property. And the surest way to ensure the good presence
25:41of character was to keep God at the center of one's life, community, and ultimately the
25:50Now listen to this, Larry Schweichert, he says, quote, separation of church and state
25:56meant freedom to worship, not freedom from worship.
26:01It went back to that link between liberty and responsibility, and no one could be taken
26:07seriously who was not responsible to God.
26:11End of quote.
26:12Now, I realize that's a mouthful, but that is very, very profound.
26:17Really, I mean accountability to others, accountability to parents, honesty, character,
26:25morality, all of those things flow from being accountable to God, realizing that we're going
26:32to answer for the life we live.
26:35And, you know, earlier in the interview, Dr. Schweiker was saying that, you know, Democrats,
26:43all but many, maybe even most, skew secular. Many, many, many are atheists, don't really
26:50believe in God. And if you don't believe in God, you don't really believe in ultimate
26:55truth. And if you don't really believe in God, you certainly don't really feel like you're
26:59accountable to God. And yet, from the very beginning, I think about this, John Quincy Adams,
27:06our sixth president, July 4, 1837, he was giving a speech. And he said that our government
27:12was quote built on the Redeemer's mission.
27:16And so many of our founders, they would articulate the fact that we are accountable to God.
27:25And as George Washington said, religion and morality are the pillars on which our nation
27:33stands.
27:34Hey, without those pillars conversely, without religion.
27:38And by the way, in religion, they meant Christianity overwhelmingly.
27:43Even Christopher Hitchens, the atheist, he says this in his book on Thomas Jefferson that
27:48we were built as a Christian nation.
27:50Tell what I'm going to do since apparently we lost our guest.
27:54Or is he back?
27:56Do we have Dr. Schweikert or are you back?
27:59I'm back.
28:00Praise God.
28:01I don't know what happened, but we lost you there for a moment.
28:04Did you hear the quote I read?
28:06Yeah, I heard you talking about the pillars and it's interesting that in in
28:11Patriot history the United States
28:14We developed the four pillars of American exceptionalism which we found northern nation not just in the world today
28:21But no other nation in human history has been built on these four pillars and the first one was a Christian
28:28mostly Protestant
28:30Religious tradition and the reason that's so important is
28:33is because it started the country off with a bottom-up church governance of
28:39congregationalism. And no other nation in the world has ever had a religion that
28:45was bottom-up that is not taught down like a pope or a patriarch or you know the
28:52king of England who's the head of the Anglican Church. And so when you combine
28:57that with the second pillar which was common law which was a bottom-up
29:01political system right then and there the United States started off with a
29:07foundation that was unheard of in human history with unique bottom-up
29:12religion coming from the people and bottom-up governance coming from the
29:16people. Tillers three and four what are they? A private property with written
29:26titles and deeds very important because there are still parts of the world that
29:30don't have that today and free market economy.
29:38It's interesting.
29:40Every time the government inserts itself into the free market economy, the results are bad.
29:48We could talk about that.
29:50Pillar number two, common law.
29:53Now, I want to make sure I understand, is this also synonymous with natural law?
29:59when Jefferson wrote, we hold these truths to be self-evident. Would you explain a little
30:06more for us common law? What is meant by that?
30:10Sure. Common law came over to the English from the Germanic tribes, and it was the notion
30:16that God or in their case, the gods put the law in the hearts of the people and that the
30:23people would elect or select rulers who would carry out or enforce that law. Well, it turns
30:28out this is found both in the Old and in the New Testament where God said he would write
30:34his laws on the hearts of the people, right? And so you have a bottom-up concept that laws
30:42are to be developed by what the people already know and understand and the rulers of their
30:48merely to be functionaries of the people not to dictate downward. And at the time, virtually
30:55all of Europe and all the rest of the world was top down, divine right of kings, that God
31:02put the law in the hands of the king and he dispensed it downward.
31:06What's interesting is that that later was taken over by Napoleon, 1800 to about 1814,
31:14and he codified those laws in something called the Code Napoleon or Civil Law that said that
31:20Again, the ruler hands the law down from the top.
31:24Napoleon spread that throughout all of Europe, as he conquered all of Europe, even though
31:29he eventually came to defeat.
31:32And so most of Europe, if not all of Europe, has civil law, whether it's Germany, Italy,
31:38Spain, or whatnot.
31:40And so at their heart, they believe in top-down governance.
31:45What's really interesting is that that also followed the English colonies when the English
31:51and the Europeans began to colonize and conquered much of the rest of the globe.
31:57The Europeans took civil law with them.
31:59The English, you would have thought, would have taken common law with them, but they didn't.
32:04They governed their colonies through the dominion process in which it was top down.
32:11So, virtually the rest of the world that was colonized by the Europeans was colonized with
32:17an idea of top-down governance.
32:20So what's the implication for us today?
32:23Well, how many of your listeners out there during the COVID, the China virus, as I call
32:30it, looked at Australia or Canada and said, I don't get it.
32:36Why are they so tyrannical?
32:38Aren't they democracies?
32:40The answer is yes, they're democracies, but they come from a heritage of top-down governance,
32:48not bottom-up that rebels against tyranny.
32:51So they went along with it like cheap.
32:56Do you have hope that well with the most recent election and just the red wave that a bottom-up
33:03government of the people, by the people with the consent of the governed?
33:08Is that coming back?
33:11Well, it's pretty clear that bottom up work in this election for president.
33:17It's not quite so clear that it worked in other parts.
33:21So we're kind of drifting into political analysis here, but my thought on the election
33:26was by the way for your listeners, I said in June on Twitter and many other places that
33:32Trump had already won the election based on the fundamentals of where everything was.
33:38Hold that phone. I'm so sorry. We've got a break. We've got a break. Stay tuned
33:43folks more and we'll open up the phones for your calls with Dr. Larry Schweichert.
33:47Don't go away. The American Family Association's mission is to inform, equip,
34:03and activate individuals to strengthen the moral foundations of our culture. We
34:09also support the church. Our goal is to be a leading organization in biblical
34:14world view training or cultural transformation.
34:18AFA believes that all men and women whether in private or public should be free to exercise
34:23their faith without hindrance from the government.
34:26Thank you for standing with the American Family Association.
34:30It was a bad move. Target invited men who say they feel like women into restrooms and changing
34:36areas designated for women. They probably guessed other retailers would follow their lead,
34:41But they were wrong.
34:43Others saw that bandwagon was headed in the wrong direction.
34:47We're not ready to sacrifice the safety of women and children
34:50for the sake of progressive bathroom policies.
34:53Invite Target to make a better move.
34:55Sign the Boycott Target Pledge at AFA.net.
35:00Trump presidency in the world order.
35:03This is David Wheaton, host of The Christian World View.
35:06Geopolitical analyst, Soren Kern,
35:09who writes in the December issue of the Christian Real View Journal,
35:12that a Donald Trump presidency is likely to have a major effect on the global order.
35:17America's factless foreign policy the past four years of the Biden administration
35:22diminished our standing in the world, including the humiliating withdrawal from Afghanistan
35:27and woke ideologies in our military.
35:29The Bible says that, in treaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings
35:33be made for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet
35:38life in all godliness and dignity.
35:41Pray for President Trump that he leads in a far better way.
35:45Here our most recent program was Sorin Kern at TheChristianWorldView.org and then tune in
35:50this weekend for a special Thanksgiving program.
35:53Listen to The Christian World View with David Wheaton, Saturday mornings at 8 Central on
35:57American Family Radio.
35:59The Hamilton Quarter Podcast and One-Bitted Commentaries are available at AFR.net.
36:10to the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
36:15Welcome back to the program, a Patriots history of the United States from Columbus' Great Discovery
36:21to the War on Terror.
36:22Dr. Larry Schweichert, an author, I highly recommend his website.
36:28We'll give us, I want to make sure I get it correct.
36:30Dr. Schweichert, what is that?
36:31The WildWorldofHistory.com.
36:33Yes, WildWorldofHistory.com for history.
36:38We have a VIP subscription where you can get all sorts of lessons in history outside of
36:44our curriculum about 50 or 60 hours worth of video lessons on everything from the charge
36:50of the winged who SARS to was prohibition popular.
36:54And then we have a full curriculum in US history, mostly for homeschoolers but for any educator
37:00for high school.
37:01And I teach every chapter of Patrets, the United States in video.
37:06So check that out.
37:08So if people want to email me at Larry at wildworldofhistory.com, I've written a new chapter 23 for
37:17Patriots History, the United States, the 15th Anniversary Edition and that covers the years
37:222018 to 2023 and I'll give it to you if free.
37:26It's a PDF.
37:27So just email me at Larry at wildworldhistory.com and say, hey, give me the new updated chapter
37:34of Patriots History.
37:36Wow, that's very gracious of you. By the way, the number of folks is triple eight five eight nine eighty eight forty
37:43That's eight eight eight five eight nine eighty eight forty if you have a question rare opportunity to
37:50Ask a question of I feel like one of the great intellectuals of our time
37:55Dr. Larry Schweikert and we're gonna take a call from Texas right now Virginia in
38:01Texas thanks for holding and welcome to the program
38:04Oh, thank you so much, Alex and Dr. Sly hurt.
38:09It's such an honor to speak with both of you.
38:13Dr. Sly hurt, I read your Patriots history several years ago and I just loved it.
38:20I've learned so much and the reason I wanted to call in tonight was one thing that I learned
38:26that still a lot of people are confused about was what was the real reason for the Civil War
38:34And you explain that so well.
38:37And I tell people to this day,
38:39I said the Civil War was fought over slavery.
38:41It had nothing to do with economics and all that stuff.
38:44Slavery was the issue.
38:47And President Lincoln rose to that challenge.
38:50He gave his life for it, like a lot of other brave men
38:53did as well.
38:54But I thank you for that.
38:57Well, thank you.
38:59The whole slavery story is so interesting,
39:02because it really creates the modern day Democrat party.
39:06Martin Van Buren, a New York state congressman
39:10like Thomas Jefferson was so afraid
39:12that the slavery issue was going to cause a civil war.
39:17In 1820, he devised a brand new political party
39:22to try to avoid that.
39:25And the party was run on the basis of spoil system
39:28or patronage, which unfortunately meant that with every election the government was destined
39:34to grow.
39:35So, from the 1820s on, again, because of good intentions, the die was set where it didn't
39:43matter who was in charge in order to get elected, you had to give away jobs to get elected,
39:49and that was going to cause government to grow.
39:53And then you get to the second part of that, which is that once the Louisiana Purchase Territories
40:00were opened up for settlement, the Missouri Compromise stated that everything above the
40:063630 line was going to be free soil.
40:09And that meant within a short matter of time, the southern states are going to be not just
40:16outvoted on slavery, but badly outvoted on slavery.
40:21And it's sooner or later you're going to get legislative abolition of slavery, legislative
40:26emancipation.
40:28And that's why the war over the territories, everything from the Kansas Nebraska Act to
40:34the Dred Scott case, everything focused on the territories.
40:38Because once you admitted slavery into the territories, it was going to get back into
40:43the free states.
40:44You couldn't keep it out.
40:45if you prohibited slavery in the in the
40:48movie and purges territories
40:50uh... sooner or later that logic was going to be applied to the
40:54slave south
40:55and you would be able to keep that out
40:58so it really was a a battle that was going to end
41:01uh... in the abolition of slavery either peacefully
41:05or by war and both sides knew it
41:08uh...
41:10do you feel that by the way of virginia thank you for that uh... great question
41:15And let me ask you this, Dr. Schweikert.
41:19And by the way, folks, if you have a question,
41:21we have time for probably a couple of calls
41:23and the number is triple eight, five, eight, nine,
41:26eighty eight, forty.
41:28Virginia, are you still on?
41:31Virginia?
41:32Okay, we've lost her.
41:34Let me ask you this.
41:36What, for the average American,
41:39what do you feel like would be the most important thing
41:42that they need to know and really
41:46internalize about our nation
41:48to uh...
41:49you know help people accurately understand what america is
41:56it's really three documents and it may flower compact
42:00that is our first governing document that set up
42:03uh... first of all they pledge their allegiance to king george and we're not
42:07trying to be rebels because we landed in the wrong spot
42:10and second of all i said we're we're a nation of
42:13they believe in the nation then but we're calling of equality
42:17because half of the members are on the may flower were not
42:20pilgrims they were not purification
42:22and then the third thing was we believe in electing our own governor and they
42:26uh...
42:26the elected john carver their governor i mean that's
42:29common law right there
42:30second document of course to be the declaration of independence
42:34which must always be read in conjunction with the constitution
42:38because as they've been pointed out
42:40you can't have the Constitution if it is not dedicated to a proposition.
42:47And that proposition was that all men are created equal in the declaration.
42:52So when you tie those three documents together, you can see from 1,600,
42:58really to the Civil War, a very straight line that ties people from God
43:05to a democratic republic to a constitutional republic with rights?
43:12Well, and I'm glad that you make the connection between the declaration and the Constitution,
43:18but I would urge people, please very carefully and thoughtfully read the preamble.
43:26Because don't you feel like the preamble to the Constitution is just genius?
43:30Well, right.
43:33It's this is what we are trying to achieve when we write down these ordinances, these
43:40laws that are going to govern us from here on out.
43:45By the way, I did with Ralph Reed.
43:48And again, if people want to email me, I can give you a link.
43:52But we did a whole series on America's founding.
43:55And we would each take turns reading various documents.
43:59i read and explain the declaration and uh... the article the confederation and a
44:04couple of the articles of u s constitution and the bill of rights uh... in video so
44:10again people want to get a hold me at the larry at wild world history or through
44:15the wild world history dot com we can we can set you up with
44:18uh... some of those free
44:20free videos
44:21uh... we're going to go to ohio dewain in ohio
44:25uh... welcome to our conversation with dr larry schweicher
44:30well good evening gentlemen
44:33but the professor is wrong about we know buckley
44:37buckley in the uh... later career
44:40uh... betrayed the conservative movement
44:42uh... there's an author by the name of paul gothrid
44:46a jewish
44:47author um...
44:49and is now uh...
44:51professor emeritus
44:53of uh... small university
44:56not an ivy league
44:58smart guy
44:59i think about eighty eight years old now
45:01how do you feel like buckley betrayed conservatism
45:04well d
45:05he gave into the new conservatives and that was
45:08it's detailed in the book
45:10called the great purge the deformation
45:13of the conservative movement
45:15and it's about how buckley
45:17gave into people
45:19uh... like
45:20harry jaffa
45:22and uh...
45:23erring crystal
45:24and had the purge refers to the firing
45:29of a lot of senior editors of National Review at the time.
45:35But in early in his career,
45:37when Buckley was famous for saying at the Mass head
45:42of the National Review to stand a history saying stop,
45:47it became a squeak.
45:49And the older Buckley was more concerned
45:54about his personal vanity than he was about the movement itself.
45:59Dr. Schweiker, what do you say?
46:02Well, I know God freed.
46:04And of course, we were frequent riders on a journal
46:09that came out from a young America Foundation called
46:12Continuity back in the day.
46:15Yeah, Bill, of course, had some Neocon streaks.
46:19I'm not sure I would call that a betrayal at all.
46:23the conservative movement is a pretty big tent and is getting
46:27bigger every day which is one of the reasons so many of the old vine rhinos
46:32want out or want to stop it as they don't like many of their new neighbors
46:37of blue-collar people
46:39uh... but uh...
46:41so i i'd just have to differ with you on that but uh...
46:44uh... like i said uh... poll and i can
46:47uh... debate that on many occasions
46:51thanks uh... dwayne kevin from arkansas kevin thanks for holding welcome to the
46:55american family radio network
47:00readings and lessons all around
47:03okay my question
47:05is about common law
47:08years back in the eighties i was studying
47:11and come across common law or old english common law that most of the states
47:16were using
47:18the exceptions were uh... luisiana was under the
47:21polyanochlol and texas understanding right
47:25but i can't read for a copy
47:28old english common law
47:30and i couldn't find one and i came to the
47:33decision that
47:35it wasn't a written law that
47:37that's why it was called common law
47:39is that true or is there some sort of
47:42writing that
47:44lays out
47:45old english common law you're very perceptive in the um...
47:49the english system
47:51is to uh... allow citizens
47:54through lawsuits
47:56to challenge various laws and so forth
47:59and the common law becomes whatever the judges have
48:02have ruled
48:03over the years on those those citizens brought
48:07uh...
48:07cases by the way though of course the
48:11founding document of common law for our system is the magna carda
48:16and i don't know have you ever seen the magna carda
48:20i have it i have it
48:23but uh... not
48:24all about it
48:25no not not read it have you been in the actual magna carda
48:30it it toward america about i don't know twenty five thirty years ago
48:35and uh...
48:37it's now print
48:38i don't know how anybody
48:41could read it
48:42let alone right it
48:44it's you need a photon microscope
48:48to read how incredibly small the print is on that thing
48:53but but that was your your basic group of uh... nobles you know they were they
48:57were not common everyday people but they were
48:59common compared to the king
49:01saying that you promised us you've made a covenant with us
49:05about all of these the rights to land ownership and we're going to hold you
49:09to it
49:10of course later king's violated that and people will always break
49:14covenants were not got after all
49:16but uh...
49:17nevertheless it was a great statement
49:20of the fact that the law was coming from
49:22the bottom up from lower levels to the king
49:28uh...
49:29very interesting
49:30so much
49:32yes and you know dr schweicher um... i mean
49:36in the declaration
49:38jefferson refers to self-evident truth he says we all these two is to be
49:42self-evident
49:43And the founders would speak of the laws of nature and nature's God.
49:49As I, in my own personal journey, begin to study natural law, which by the way, whenever,
49:59if I'm at a university doing Q&A and I talk about moral truth, very often students or professors
50:07they'll say, oh, but the non-establishment clause of the First Amendment prohibits the imposition
50:15of objective morality.
50:17Do you think, am I right and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong?
50:21It's important to help people understand there's a difference between religion and morality.
50:28And I feel like the non-establishment clause of the First Amendment has been extrapolated
50:34to mean the abolition of all moral boundaries and that's
50:38something that's great
50:39you know danger to our country
50:42there is a difference between religion and morality isn't there
50:47well yeah of course there is
50:49but the non-establishment cause refers to the federal government
50:53it makes no
50:55uh... statement
50:57on what
50:58states
50:58could do and at the time many states were still paying
51:02ministers and when jefferson said that
51:05some states are still paying ministers to be agents of the state
51:09church that the founders
51:12fully expected to be within the right
51:14of what they you talk
51:16to have a
51:17more than religion in utah
51:20for pennsylvania had a quicker religion in pennsylvania
51:24they would have found that to be
51:26at all
51:27weird
51:28and i have to take one other thing across my mind because you're called i
51:31think
51:32I am so sorry, I beg your forgiveness. We're almost out of time.
51:36Dutch schweicher. Thank you. We've got to do this again. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
51:42To everybody, thanks for listening. May God bless you and may God bless America.
51:47The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American
51:52Family Association or American Family Radio.

Transcript indexed for search. Open the panel to read along.

Share this episode

Related Episodes

Apr 22, 2025

Parental Rights & Education
Gender & Sexuality
Politics & Policy
Culture & Media

Do parents have the legal right to opt their elementary school-aged children (as young as 5 years old) out of public school LGBTQ+ storybook instruction?

0:00 - 15:00. James 1:1-5, 12. Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial. 15:00 - 31:00. Do parents have the legal right to opt their elementary school-aged children (as young as 5 years old) out …

Listen

Jun 25, 2025

Culture & Media

From 9/11 to Mamdani to NYT’s latest…why our nation has eroded as it has to date

0:00 - 15:00. Habakkuk 1:1-4. There is a difference between a “reprieve” and an “outpouring of abundance.” 15:00 - 31:00. From 9/11 in NYC to Mamdani for Mayor? 31:00 - 48:00. The NYT provides yet ano…

Listen

Sep 17, 2024

Culture & Media

Dr. Alex McFarland guest hosts for “The Corner” this evening

0:00 - 15:00. Carl Kerby, co-founder, Reasons for Hope, joins Alex to talk apologetics relative to current events in order to equip believers 15:00 - 31:00. Discussion continues with Carl Kerby as the…

Listen

Subscribe and never miss an episode.

Pick Your Platform All Episodes

Call (888) 589-8840 Book Abe