The Jesse Ridgway saga brings closeted callousness to forefront. What does it say about our nation?

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1. 0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
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14. 0:41where we are on site for the HEAV 2026 convention.
15. 0:47That is the Home Educators Association of Virginia's Convention.
16. 0:52Had a wonderful time in the session that I spoke at earlier.
17. 0:57I'm so grateful for all of the people who attended my particular session.
18. 1:03We had some corner listeners in the audience, so that was all that was encouraging to me,
19. 1:09but having the opportunity to minister to attendees here and affirm for them and encourage them
20. 1:15in recognizing how that the family is God's primary mission station, not exclusive, but
21. 1:21primary mission station.
22. 1:22It was an amazing time to do so.
23. 1:24And right now, as many of you are making your transition from your part-time jobs to your full-time jobs,
24. 1:30let me encourage you to do so with intentionality.
25. 1:33You know, let us spend some time in prayer and in planning and preparation to resist and to avoid the cultural norm
26. 1:45that will have many of us that just end a long workday and offer our families just the leftovers from that workday.
27. 1:53instead of recognizing that this is the opportunity and privilege that God has given us to operate
28. 1:59within the structure of our families to exalt the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords.
29. 2:05I mean that across the board we have various family structures, various life stages that
30. 2:11we are in. Many of you are in the same stage that I am in in life with young children in our homes
31. 2:17and let us understand that we must be intentional to work while it is day.
32. 2:26I've said before my oldest is 15, I could remember when we just brought the little baby
33. 2:31home.
34. 2:34Time is waiting for no one.
35. 2:35I had a why seasons ain't telling me one time.
36. 2:39The days may feel long but the years are short.
37. 2:44They fly by.
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45. 3:03the board at home base and we're ready to rock and roll with today's edition
46. 3:06of the programme. this is a show where we remind you daily
47. 3:10that what goes on in your house is far more important
48. 3:13than what goes on in the White House not because
49. 3:16It is more important in the global sense, but it is more important in the personal responsibility and accountability sense.
50. 3:23We are responsible for what we do with the time that God has given us.
51. 3:29And every single one of us has the exact same 24 hours in the day.
52. 3:33Should the Lord bless us to open our eyes with new mercies on each morning.
53. 3:38We all have the same amount of time.
54. 3:40Now how?
55. 3:42Dr. Tony Evans says, religion can damage your soul, but a relationship with God through grace
56. 4:00is a whole different matter.
57. 4:02He'll explain the difference today as we spend two minutes with Tony.
58. 4:07Religion can be like donuts.
59. 4:10In fact, a lot of people come to the sugar church, donut church.
60. 4:18They want the sugar of the singing.
61. 4:20They want the sugar of the sermon.
62. 4:22They want the sugar of the environment, but everybody knows why donuts are tasty and
63. 4:28while donuts are succulent, there are absolutely no nutritional benefits.
64. 4:33When I learn that, I started losing weight.
65. 4:35See, when I learned that, I started losing weight because they're non-beneficial, but
66. 4:40it just feels so good going down.
67. 4:42That has convergence.
68. 4:43And that's what religion is.
69. 4:44Convergence is of all kinds of things.
70. 4:46You know, the social media era, the technology era, the time period where younger people are
71. 4:51putting everything online and examining that in the light of scripture, you know, and all
72. 4:58of these various elements and coming right down to the reality that a callousness really
73. 5:05has set in our society concerning human life to where we have a grievously concerning understanding
74. 5:17of life or the lack thereof.
75. 5:22But before we get into it, to the word of God we go, Isaiah chapter 1.
76. 5:25Jeff, you let me know if you need me for anything.
77. 5:27Isaiah chapter 1 verses 1 through 6 by way of reminder the Prophet Isaiah ministered from
78. 5:35about 767 to 681 B.C.
79. 5:39The first eight chapters of the book of Isaiah follow chronologically the events that are recorded
80. 5:44in 2 Kings 15 and 2 Chronicles 26. And in this portion of scripture Isaiah is ministering
81. 5:53to the southern kingdom of Judah prophetically so he is calling them to repentance, you know,
82. 5:59highlighting their grotesque sinfulness and calling them to repentance in the first, six
83. 6:04verses of the first chapter of the book of Isaiah says this, the vision of Isaiah the
84. 6:10son of Amos, concerning Judah and Jerusalem, which he saw during the reigns of Uzziah,
85. 6:16Jotham, A-Haz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah. Listen, O heavens, and hear, O earth, for the
86. 6:24Lord speaks. Sons I have reared and brought up, but they have revolted against me. An ox knows
87. 6:32its owner and a donkey, its master's manger, but Israel does not know. My people do not
88. 6:40understand. Alas, sinful nation, people weighed down with
89. 6:46iniquity, offspring of evil doers, sons who act corruptly.
90. 6:53They have abandoned the Lord. They have despised the Holy One of
91. 6:56Israel. They have turned away from him. Where will you be
92. 7:01stricken again? As you continue in your rebellion. The whole
93. 7:05head is sick and the whole heart is faint. From the soul of the
94. 7:09foot even to the head, there is nothing sound in it, only bruises, welts, and raw wounds,
95. 7:18not pressed out or bandaged nor softened with oil.
96. 7:23This is the same Isaiah who says later in chapter 5, he warns with a woe to those who call good
97. 7:34evil and evil good.
98. 7:36It's the same Isaiah in chapter 59 of his book,
99. 7:42who laments the reality, that justice and rebellious Judah,
100. 7:48that truth has fallen in the streets.
101. 7:51And as a result, justice has turned backwards,
102. 7:54and uprightness cannot enter.
103. 7:57Those who would seek righteousness make themselves a prey.
104. 8:01This is what Isaiah is saying, a prey, P-R-E-Y,
105. 8:05in a rebellious nation, and brothers and sisters,
106. 8:07in many ways, we are here in our own nation in many ways.
107. 8:14When truth has been rejected, when I say truth,
108. 8:16I mean truth with a capital T,
109. 8:20because capital T truth is ultimately a person.
110. 8:26When truth has been rejected,
111. 8:28the inevitable downstream consequence
112. 8:31is that truth will have fallen in the streets.
113. 8:37The inevitable downstream consequences
114. 8:42include justice turning backward.
115. 8:45I mean, we've seen it.
116. 8:49There's been much conversation about the two-tiered justice
117. 8:53system, much conversation about, well,
118. 8:58if you are wealthy enough, if you are connected enough,
119. 9:01if you know the right people enough,
120. 9:03then you can get the hookup and you can avoid accountability,
121. 9:09criminally, even civilly.
122. 9:16The inevitable downstream consequence
123. 9:18from truth-falling industry is that you will have
124. 9:20populace who will call good evil and will call evil good. This is a part of what the Lord
125. 9:30means when he says he invests his church in the world to be the pillar and ground of truth.
126. 9:38I've explained before when the Apostle Paul uses that terminology, he's drawing from his
127. 9:42awareness of the first century Greco-Roman edifices, structures where you had foundation
128. 9:49One component which would be the ground and the pillars, like the columns, the walls that
129. 9:54would uphold the structure to maintain them and that the church had that role, has that
130. 9:59role to play.
131. 10:03But when the church goes silent and I even said this to the attendees at my presentation
132. 10:08today, earlier today, I said, listen, just because politicians discuss something that
133. 10:13is within God's jurisdiction and within God's domain, then I pause and I said, and what
134. 10:19is outside of God's jurisdiction.
135. 10:23What is beyond God's domain?
136. 10:26That is, there is not a segment of our society
137. 10:28that is beyond God's providence and his jurisdiction.
138. 10:33Say it simply, everything falls under God's jurisdiction.
139. 10:38So when you have politicians who have the audacity
140. 10:41or the nerve to start to discuss things
141. 10:44that an inherently reclassify the subject matter,
142. 10:48The sanctity of human life is not a political issue.
143. 10:51God's institution marriage is not a political issue.
144. 10:54The identity of image-bearers of God as males and females,
145. 10:58it is not a political issue.
146. 11:01Inherently, politicians may discuss it,
147. 11:03but they don't get to claim ownership over the conversation.
148. 11:08And when we, as a society, reject God's way,
149. 11:12man, there are consequences.
150. 11:16And I've explained numerous, numerous times
151. 11:18that changes in law do not have the ability to transform the human heart.
152. 11:22But the Lord explains in Galatians chapter three that the law serves as a
153. 11:27trainer of the conscience.
154. 11:30In Galatians three, the Lord explained to the Apostle Paul,
155. 11:33who's the Apostle who, the Apostle who proclaims that we're saved by grace through
156. 11:37faith and not by works in which any mentioned boast.
157. 11:40And so he was asked by the Galatians, what then is the benefit of the law?
158. 11:43The Apostle explained, the Apostle Paul explained that the law's purpose is that
159. 11:47It is a school master.
160. 11:49It is a trainer of the conscience.
161. 11:51It's a tutor to prepare you for life in the spirit.
162. 11:58So when you have lives that are promulgated
163. 12:02as if they are a law,
164. 12:04then you have people that consider the unconscionable.
165. 12:09And an example of that is absurdities concerning
166. 12:12the sanctity of human life
167. 12:14and the status of an unborn barrier of God's image
168. 12:18with the mantra, and I say it that way,
169. 12:21I don't use that term lightly because mantras are pagan term, but in a very pagan form,
170. 12:27the mantras employed my body, my choice.
171. 12:35And the mantra is employed in an effort to conceal the utter villainy, the utter villainy of murder
172. 12:43and unborn bearers of God's image for convenience.
173. 12:45And we have an entire society and what I'm going to get into later on in this program
174. 12:54is that it's sad, but we're living in the, in the, in the selfie, the, the door dash, the,
175. 13:04what am I fool, give it to me, take a minute, I gotta have it right now, era, and even a lot
176. 13:10of Christians, man, who will espouse notions and have perspectives and have stances until
177. 13:18that stance may cause them to endure a little bit of hardship.
178. 13:23They'll have the stances until the stances require them to about the saying s word that that is like
179. 13:32whoo
180. 13:33It's a profane word to too many professing churchions
181. 13:38That's where it is suffer
182. 13:41If a sense that I have may result in me having to
183. 13:47suffer
184. 13:48How often do people change course?
185. 13:53Yes, marriage is the union of one man and one woman
186. 13:56But if I have a loved one who struggles and all of a sudden theology changes, you know, yes, I believe in the sanctity of human life
187. 14:03Oh, but if I have a child who has received a potential
188. 14:12Native diagnosis well, I may consider consider what murder. Oh, I don't I know shacking up that sinful
189. 14:23So you get a boyfriend or girlfriend
190. 14:28now all of a sudden
191. 14:32Shacking away, you know.
192. 14:34I'm pointing these things out, and I know, I know.
193. 14:39It gets thick for a lot of people.
194. 14:44But if you have positions that are positions of convenience,
195. 14:49and they're not convictions that flow from the power
196. 14:52of the presence of God in your life and your heart,
197. 14:55you just adhere to platitudes.
198. 14:59A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker.
199. 15:02I was recently in conversation with another pastor,
200. 15:05and we were discussing the issue of some of the news stories
201. 15:08about youth in our culture and nation.
202. 15:11The pastor remarked,
203. 15:13I've been praying and asking the Lord for what to do
204. 15:16about all that's going on with our youth,
205. 15:19without question where wise to pray and ask for wisdom
206. 15:21and addressing most any problem in our world.
207. 15:24God in His word always have an answer
208. 15:27for every challenge we can possibly face.
209. 15:30The answer to the challenges we face with our youth
210. 15:32isn't complicated.
211. 15:34In fact, the answer is much more simple
212. 15:37And we may wish to admit, the answer to the problems in our culture for all that's going
213. 15:42on amongst our youth is Jesus. Our children need to know Jesus Christ. And our children
214. 15:48and youth need to be discipled in their faith. They need to be taught and trained to read the
215. 15:53word of God and walk in its wisdom. Shiving light into the darkness, this is the Hamilton
216. 16:07Corner on American Family Radio. Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton III here.
217. 16:15Yeah, we probably going to have some heavy conversations today.
218. 16:22But I want to remind you that we'll be in Pennsylvania next week looking forward
219. 16:27to that at the Christian Home Educators Association of Pennsylvania's conference next week.
220. 16:35June 11th through the 13th is when that will take place.
221. 16:40So there's still time for you to register for that.
222. 16:41Simply go to chaponline.com to register and look forward to seeing you there.
223. 16:48But I'll start here man. What is and
224. 16:52And I guess maybe I'll start a few questions
225. 16:54Am I right in understanding that the technological innovation hub frankly of our nation as well as the world is
226. 17:01in the state of California is that correct I do believe
227. 17:08Well, can somebody so splain to me my can somebody a Lucy or a splainer to me? Okay?
228. 17:13Can someone just explain it to me?
229. 17:16As to why it takes California so long to count votes following an election, listen to you,
230. 17:25and watch this brief clip.
231. 17:26It's clip number three, clip three, go.
232. 17:28President Trump weighed in posting, watch California, our election process as is bad or
233. 17:33worse than any third world country.
234. 17:36The biggest difference is they count their votes much faster.
235. 17:39They don't wait seven days to tell you who won rigging the election during each and every
236. 17:43one of them.
237. 17:44I hope the media looks at this election the second place in California where they think
238. 17:51it'll take seven or eight days to count the votes.
239. 17:53Can you believe this?
240. 17:55I mean, they spend all that money on the machines, the big voting machines.
241. 18:02They think it's going to be seven or eight days before we know who won the election.
242. 18:06But the numbers are looking strange because without any vote counting, the numbers dropped
243. 18:11very precipitously for two Republicans that are doing well, that had been doing well.
244. 18:19Why seven days after the actual election? Because LA election officials accept mail-in ballots as
245. 18:25late as seven days after the actual election as long as the ballots are postmarked on or before
246. 18:34election day. Did I just hear what I think I just heard? So seven or eight days after the election
247. 18:46because LA election officials you know LA specifically accepts mail-in ballots up to seven days after
248. 18:57election day as long as they are postmarked on or before election day. Now when the day of ballots
249. 19:07a cast seems like Pratt was in the top two of the what's called the jungle primary in
250. 19:15California which means that he would make it into the runoff for the general election
251. 19:20but as more mail-in ballots are being opened it seems that the mail-in ballots are only
252. 19:28going one way for the most part right that's interesting so again in an effort to kind
253. 19:36to tease out what is widespread and what is not widespread in terms of election irregularities.
254. 19:44Is it beyond the pale to consider that if ballots can be collected up to seven days after
255. 19:52election day as long as they are postmarked on or before election day they can count?
256. 20:00You remember this is the same place where you had mail-in ballots that were burned up in
257. 20:04a, right?
258. 20:05We just talked about that, right?
259. 20:08Is it not possible to have, you know, maybe one or two rogue postal workers who may or may
260. 20:14not have received some form of incentive?
261. 20:18Yeah, I'll see what I'm going to do to provide certain envelopes with post markings.
262. 20:28However, the content of said envelopes, and that necessarily filled out until we kind
263. 20:33of what's, which way, which, what do we need?
264. 20:38How many more do we need?
265. 20:40And then put it.
266. 20:41Okay.
267. 20:44guys if you're wondering why things like the Save America Act and all this kind of stuff are needed
268. 20:48this is the examples right here man with all of the technological innovation that is available in the state of California
269. 20:55you mean to tell me that we can't we can't count balancing any faster than that and I think
270. 21:03you know I've said before I think any fast food organization frankly I think the DMV's
271. 21:09need to go to organizations like Chick-fil-A and like like canes to understand customer service
272. 21:20because why can why can they do it so fast and you can't? Well, why can't California hop on down to
273. 21:26Florida and figure out how does Florida is one of the largest most populous states in our country
274. 21:33about third now most populous state in our country? They're able to turn around elections just like
275. 21:38like that.
276. 21:41Is it, here's the question I wanna leave you with.
277. 21:43Is California unable to count balance faster?
278. 21:50Or is it, they just like it the way it's going?
279. 21:55They like it like this.
280. 21:57Because you get a little bit of ballot harvesting in,
281. 22:00you know, your jungle primaries,
282. 22:02get a little bit of mail in,
283. 22:04a little mail out and voila!
284. 22:07All of a sudden, and I wanna watch this
285. 22:12because the Election Day third place finisher was crying,
286. 22:19in the mayoral election in Los Angeles,
287. 22:20which given the indication that she believed she'd lost.
288. 22:26But when you think it would be a little bit funny,
289. 22:28if the one who was crying all of a sudden,
290. 22:31I know about five, six days later,
291. 22:33ends up one of the top two with Karen Bass,
292. 22:35wouldn't that be, wouldn't that, huh?
293. 22:40Man, it stinks.
294. 22:42It really, really, really, really, really, really stinks.
295. 22:49Does California want to count their ballots faster?
296. 22:54Or is there a reason for them to want to continue to have it as it is?
297. 23:00Think about that.
298. 23:02All right, I'm moving on to this story.
299. 23:04And this is the one that I just can't shake.
300. 23:08And I've been following it for quite some time and praying.
301. 23:11As to whether or not I want to discuss it, I try to respond to things
302. 23:22that I'm impressed by the Lord to respond to and to address on the program.
303. 23:27But this is just heartbreaking. So Jesse Ridgway is a 33 year old YouTuber who's also a filmmaker,
304. 23:41an actor, and I'm saying this for a reason, and a director from New Jersey. All right.
305. 23:50He has four million subscribers to his YouTube channel. He's married to a young woman named Ashley.
306. 23:58And back in March, Jesse Ridgeway and his wife announced that their first pregnancy with a pretty excited post on social media.
307. 24:08On April 8th of this year, they put out an ultrasound video.
308. 24:14So Jesse Ridgeway is a YouTuber.
309. 24:17You know, they are producing social media content with their families' lives on social media.
310. 24:28All right, let me get all the facts out then we'll do a little bit of commentary around this they then later on
311. 24:41Social media posted
312. 24:48On June 3rd in fact Jesse Ridgeway posted a detailed statement just this week on
313. 24:58X
314. 24:59Which was reposted by his wife Ashley announcing
315. 25:02That they had murdered their baby in utero and I want to be a hundred percent clear
316. 25:07because that is exactly what they posted.
317. 25:11Because murdering a child intentionally in utero
318. 25:14is what abortion is, all right?
319. 25:17Jesse Ridgeway explained that he and his wife were grieving,
320. 25:26they suffered a loss and even that was like,
321. 25:30I know you're grieving, but can you really suffer
322. 25:34a loss that you've caused?
323. 25:36You know what I'm saying?
324. 25:37So in his statement, he goes on to explain,
325. 25:40in quite haughty terms, I would say,
326. 25:45that he and his wife made the decision
327. 25:49to terminate their unborn baby after five months gestation
328. 25:53because they had received a diagnosis of trisomy 21,
329. 25:57or which is a diagnosis that projects and predicts
330. 26:01that their child will have Down Syndrome.
331. 26:07And they went on to explain that.
332. 26:11Now it's come out now that, and this is wild,
333. 26:16because they later posted a video in which it appears
334. 26:21that Jesse and his wife are learning of their unborn child,
335. 26:26tricemet 21 diagnosis, down syndrome diagnosis.
336. 26:30However, thanks to the sleuths on social media,
337. 26:32you go back to Jesse Ridgeway's social media page
338. 26:35and a month earlier, Jesse had posted a video
339. 26:38of his brother telling him of his unborn child's diagnosis
340. 26:45with full reaction and all of that.
341. 26:46So the social media slu's are arguing
342. 26:49that the later video with Jesse and his wife
343. 26:52is actually a staged production.
344. 26:54Remember how I told you?
345. 26:55Jesse was an actor and a director.
346. 26:56Remember how I told you that?
347. 26:58And the social media slu's are looking and saying,
348. 26:59wait a minute, is she like pausing
349. 27:01and supposed to be crying?
350. 27:02But leave that aside for the moment.
351. 27:06And I wanna talk about this.
352. 27:09And then Jesse Ridgeway, I think today was the day.
353. 27:15He makes another post where he is basically
354. 27:17trying to play the victim.
355. 27:18I can't believe how many people are sending vile things
356. 27:21to me saying that I murdered my unborn child,
357. 27:24and that I need to repent.
358. 27:25Well yeah, Jesse, because you need to,
359. 27:28because you need to.
360. 27:31Now let's take a few steps back.
361. 27:32First of all, I understand we're living in a social media era,
362. 27:35and there are videos of things being produced.
363. 27:38I for one do not think it's wise for people to put everything
364. 27:41concerned and then personalized on social media.
365. 27:46Second, and I want this to be a part of the discourse
366. 27:49because there are a lot of people who will not recall this
367. 27:52as the emotions arise concerned in this particular story.
368. 27:55But I wanna remind you that Jesse and his wife,
369. 27:57Ashley, made the decision to post all of this publicly
370. 28:01and to monetize it to make money from it.
371. 28:07So I want you to remember that this is not merely
372. 28:10about a conversation about a deep personal issue,
373. 28:15Jesse and Ashley are trying to make money from this content.
374. 28:18I want you to remember that,
375. 28:19especially when you consider that Jesse posted a video
376. 28:24of his brother telling him a month earlier
377. 28:26about the tricemat 21 diagnosis,
378. 28:28and then later you have another video
379. 28:31where he's discussing it with his wife
380. 28:33and she is reacting as if it's a first instance,
381. 28:36but I'm not sure if a husband would be able to keep
382. 28:38that information from his pregnant wife
383. 28:40for an entire month for a later real reaction video.
384. 28:43It's almost like they might be acting in the latest video for money.
385. 28:52Yeah.
386. 28:55But getting back to the whole thing about posting everything on Zoom,
387. 28:57I don't think it's wise with everything about your private lives
388. 29:00and personal lives on social media.
389. 29:01I just don't think that's why.
390. 29:02It's personally this, I don't because of what the scripture says.
391. 29:05It's a fool that gets full of it to his spirit.
392. 29:11But you know, in the era of, you know, selfie, like, subscribe,
393. 29:16hit the red button, you know, in that era, everything is content.
394. 29:21All right, so that's one thing.
395. 29:26The next thing I want to share is I can't tell you how many posts following this I've
396. 29:31read and these have been almost exclusively from women who say, Christian, I'm a Christian
397. 29:41here.
398. 29:44If I learned that my child, my unborn child was diagnosed with filling the blank, then
399. 29:51I would terminate too.
400. 29:54Really?
401. 29:56Now, I shouldn't have went to that point first.
402. 29:57Let me take a few steps back.
403. 29:59Prior to Jesse Ridgeway posting anything about his baby, his wife, and their pregnancy, a while
404. 30:07back he had a long post-string about his dog.
405. 30:10All right.
406. 30:11And this is what I want you to pay before I get to the Christian women who were posting
407. 30:14a response.
408. 30:15He had a long post about his dog.
409. 30:17His dog had contracted kidney disease.
410. 30:22And the dog had to have surgery for kidney disease.
411. 30:27he was concerned because the percentage of dogs that could survive,
412. 30:32because the kidneys had to be removed from kidney disease,
413. 30:36it has something like a .001 chance of survival.
414. 30:39So then Jesse comes back glowingly in post,
415. 30:42post after the kidney removal surgery,
416. 30:46my dog is still here one year later.
417. 30:50I guess he is the .001% of dogs who could survive
418. 30:57against the odds.
419. 30:58Isn't that amazing?
420. 30:59So Jesse Ridgeway has an online footprint that showed that he had a higher estimation of his dog's life and capacity for survival,
421. 31:08following a negative diagnosis than the prospect that he has for his own child.
422. 31:14Think about that.
423. 31:16And as you're thinking about it, have you seen some of those Man on the Street videos?
424. 31:20Well, you have people that would go up to his young folks and say,
425. 31:23you know, hey, would you sign this petition because we're trying to save the turtles or the bunnies or whatever animals,
426. 31:29and then go on and you have all the people that are eager to ready to sign the petition.
427. 31:33They say, oh, wait a minute, wait a minute. We said it was about the animal. We said this is from our
428. 31:36babies and the person immediately changes and goes, I don't want to sign that petition.
429. 31:41Have you seen those? Jesse Ridgeway, and for anybody to send us a private issue, it's not a private
430. 31:49issue when you publish it online, social media, and you do so for money. And the more attention
431. 31:55that your publication gets, the more money you earn. It's no longer a private matter by your own decision.
432. 32:01And the sad reality that is setting in for many,
433. 32:08including myself, is what I started out
434. 32:10in the first segment scene.
435. 32:11We have a lot of people that have positions.
436. 32:14It's kind of like white papers in their own heads.
437. 32:17Not some think tanks white papers,
438. 32:19but a personal white paper.
439. 32:20That this is what I believe.
440. 32:21Yes, I am pro-life.
441. 32:22Yes, I believe in holiness.
442. 32:24Yes, checking up is wrong.
443. 32:25Yes, these things are wrong.
444. 32:27But until it comes home,
445. 32:32that white paper in the head has not been tested.
446. 32:36And so what is revealed sometimes is that,
447. 32:40oh, this is not a conviction, oh yes, yes,
448. 32:44there's idolatry in the youth sports culture.
449. 32:47Until you got a child, I could hit a baseball ball.
450. 32:49Or I could shoot a basketball.
451. 32:50And now, oh, you don't wanna hear any sermons
452. 32:53about not being on in service during travel ball season.
453. 33:01Okay, here's an assignment for you, if you will.
454. 33:04I want you to take some time and think about a getaway
455. 33:06that gives you a chance to get together
456. 33:08with other people of faith.
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458. 33:12all while enjoying the Creation Museum
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460. 33:17I'm talking about joining AFA at the Arc,
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462. 33:22This is a great opportunity to break away
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466. 33:33It also includes entrance to the Creation Museum
467. 33:35Thursday and the Arc Encounter on Friday. Friday's dinner includes a panel discussion with Tony
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469. 33:47This is an event that can fill up quickly, so hurry to AFA.net slash events to register
470. 33:53for AFA at the Arc 2026. AFA.net slash events and we'll see you at the Arc.
471. 34:01Deal with Iran. This is David Wheaton, host of the Christian worldview. President
472. 34:07Trump's attempt to make a lasting deal with Iran to abandon their nuclear weapons
473. 34:11program is next to impossible because their core motivation is the destruction
474. 34:16of Israel and the West. This motivation is based on their false Shia Muslim religion
475. 34:21that believes the twelfth imam or madi, a Messiah-like figure, will return through
476. 34:26apocalyptic means such as more war.
477. 34:30This is a time for Christians to pray and trust Psalm 103.
478. 34:34The Lord has established his throne in the heavens
479. 34:37and his sovereignty rules overall.
480. 34:40God ordains the present and the future,
481. 34:42and that's the best thing.
482. 34:44Here in most recent program with author and radio host,
483. 34:46Steve Dase at TheChristianWorldView.org,
484. 34:49and then join us this weekend for another topic
485. 34:51that will sharpen your worldview.
486. 34:54Listen to The Christian World View with David Wheaton,
487. 34:56Saturday mornings at 8 Central on American Family Radio.
488. 35:05Hamilton Quarter Podcast and One-Minute Common Terrets
489. 35:08are available at afr.net.
490. 35:11Back to the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
491. 35:17Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton the third.
492. 35:19He is talking about the Jesse Ridgeway and Ashley Ridgeway
493. 35:22situation, as Jesse decided to publish the details of his
494. 35:28and his wife's decision to murder their unborn child
495. 35:31following their learning of the child, the child having a trisomy 21 diagnosis,
496. 35:39Down Syndrome diagnosis. Man, I have so many thoughts racing through my mind and
497. 35:47in my heart at the moment because as I was saying before the break, we would be
498. 35:56naive to think that with the scourge of in utero baby murder that is that has
499. 36:03has enveloped our country that it does not include people who would have told you that
500. 36:10they were pro-life before they committed the moms committed to terminate their own unborn
501. 36:16children. We will be naive to think that. Because so often, as I was giving examples before,
502. 36:24that people have positions that are really white paper platitudes in their mind, but until
503. 36:30They are forced to consider whether or not they can maintain, not even maintain until they're
504. 36:36in a position where their white paper platitude is presented with the potential of a little
505. 36:46bit of discomfort, a little bit of hardship, a little bit of suffering in order to live
506. 36:51up to what you profess to believe.
507. 36:54Many, many, even professing Christians, will go the opposite direction, which brings to the
508. 37:02forefront that we have a very, very, very, very twisted notion of compassion is what some
509. 37:10people try to hide behind.
510. 37:11So the whole Jesse Ridgeway saga, as he's publishing this thing online, and is basically
511. 37:16an effort to say, look how caring and courageous and compassionate we are, because we have a
512. 37:22a child who received a diagnosis that indicates that our child may have a difficult life, which
513. 37:28means we may have a difficult life. He went on to talk about how sometimes down syndromes
514. 37:34children end up having to live with their parents for the entirety of their lives. And so the
515. 37:38possibility of their child having a difficult life and suffering in life and the possibility
516. 37:42of them having a difficult life that the compassionate thing to do was to kill the child. That's
517. 37:48compassion a thing to do. And the thing that's so diabolical is that that type of logic is
518. 37:55sociopaths logic. You know, it is the homicidal version of what's often called, you know,
519. 38:03wife math, you know, how, you know, I was talking to my wife about this the other day, my wife
520. 38:07was saying, well, hey, I'm saving you money. How are you saving your money? Because I'm
521. 38:10only going to buy this stuff on sale. And I'm saying, well, do we really need the item?
522. 38:15No, but I want the item.
523. 38:17So because I want the item, I'm going to buy it,
524. 38:20but I'm going to wait for the sale.
525. 38:21So I'm saving you money to which I said,
526. 38:23well, we would save money if we just didn't buy anything.
527. 38:28No, in fact, it wouldn't even be saving money.
528. 38:30We just keep our own money
529. 38:31because we're not buying anything that we don't need.
530. 38:34No, I'm saving you money by buying on sale.
531. 38:35You see what I'm going with that?
532. 38:37Well, this man is literally saying
533. 38:39that we are compassionate and sparing our child's suffering
534. 38:43because we made the decision to murder him.
535. 38:46It was a boy. That's why I can say him.
536. 38:49So you think your child's death occurred without suffering?
537. 38:56That's the first thing.
538. 38:57Like that's sociopathic.
539. 39:00I'm going to spare you suffering later by killing you now.
540. 39:04You see what I'm saying?
541. 39:06Guys, that is diabolical.
542. 39:08And the scores of people around the world saying,
543. 39:10oh yes, that is the ultimate exercise of compassion.
544. 39:15I'm saying no, it's not.
545. 39:18It's not compassionate to kill somebody,
546. 39:21and it never to help them.
547. 39:26That's Joseph Gerbels type stuff.
548. 39:31And we don't get it at all.
549. 39:32And then the other thing,
550. 39:36you have more confidence in your dog being able to
551. 39:41buck a trend than you do your own child.
552. 39:45Like you have diagnosis of all kinds of things.
553. 39:47That don't mean that's the way it's gonna play out.
554. 39:51And I'm not unique in as many people around the world.
555. 39:54I got a friend I talked about this not long ago.
556. 39:56when we had one of our children in utero
557. 39:59and they said, well, we find this marker.
558. 40:01Do you want to do additional testing?
559. 40:02My wife and I both said, we didn't even talk about it
560. 40:04before and we both said it the same time,
561. 40:05almost like a harmonizing choir, no?
562. 40:08And the staff, the hospital staff was like, what?
563. 40:11Y'all don't even want to take this?
564. 40:12No, we don't need to know.
565. 40:14Whatever happens, this is our baby.
566. 40:17And I'm not trying to pound my chest and pop my collar.
567. 40:19That's what humans with hearts do.
568. 40:23I'm not trying to say that we're better than anybody.
569. 40:24That's what I'm saying.
570. 40:25The sociopathic thing is to say,
571. 40:27oh yeah, I wanna know because I'm gonna have a marker,
572. 40:29then I'll murder it, I'm gonna murder the child.
573. 40:32And then Jesse Ridgeway had the audacity to say,
574. 40:34and yes, we are so glad that we were able to have the choice
575. 40:37to exercise this compassion.
576. 40:42So we just go embrace the notion that it's compassionate
577. 40:44to kill a child, then for them to even have difficulty.
578. 40:48Now the one thing, that's a prediction,
579. 40:50and I mean that's what it's gonna be,
580. 40:51but you don't even wanna run the risk,
581. 40:54that that's what it might be.
582. 40:54And then the other side of it,
583. 40:57What if the child does have the difficulty?
584. 41:01You're making the unilateral decision
585. 41:03that a child with some difficulties in life
586. 41:06that would be difficult for the child
587. 41:08and that may make some things difficult for you
588. 41:11is better to murder them.
589. 41:13Guys, that's evil.
590. 41:17Do we not recognize?
591. 41:19What kind of society are we?
592. 41:22And then this brings you back to the point
593. 41:23I was making before how afterwards post,
594. 41:26after post, after post, I'm a Christian here.
595. 41:29And if I learned my child had a dance in drum diagnosis,
596. 41:31I would terminate and just give all of the reasons.
597. 41:36And you name it, you could probably predict the reasons.
598. 41:39And what it shows, guys, is a practical reality
599. 41:43that we have elevated comfort in our own lives
600. 41:57to avoid suffering at any cost above everything.
601. 42:01And I don't want to sit here and play as if convenience is
602. 42:05nothing.
603. 42:06I'm not a person who says, yeah, you know, don't give me a lawn mower.
604. 42:10That give me a manual lawn mower.
605. 42:12I cut my grass because I need more hardship.
606. 42:14I'm not saying that at all.
607. 42:16But I'm saying, who has to be?
608. 42:18Which does? And I'm not merely talking about the world.
609. 42:22The world is going to world.
610. 42:24But how often does this same thing happen in our own lives?
611. 42:28I can tell you the number of times. You know, before I would perform a
612. 42:32Mary ceremony for a couple, they have to have a premarital counseling.
613. 42:34And you have a couple saying, yeah, man, we want to get right before the Lord.
614. 42:37couple saying, yeah, man, we want to get right before the Lord.
615. 42:39And so we want to get married.
616. 42:40We don't want to shack up anymore.
617. 42:41And one of the first thing I would say to the couple, say, okay, first things
618. 42:44first, y'all got to move out.
619. 42:46If we're going to do, I'm not doing any counseling for a couple of
620. 42:48shacking up and you should see the, wait, didn't we start the conversation off?
621. 42:53I say, you want to get right with the Lord?
622. 42:55Cause you know you're living lives of sin.
623. 42:58Like it's not a question.
624. 42:59You started off by saying, come to me saying that we want to get right with the
625. 43:03Lord.
626. 43:03Guess what that statement means?
627. 43:05That we recognize the way we have been living
628. 43:07is a sin-filled life and we no longer
629. 43:09want to live the sin-filled life, right?
630. 43:12So then I say, okay, step one,
631. 43:14y'all gotta move out from living with one another.
632. 43:17Ooh, that's too hard.
633. 43:22I thought you wanted to get right with the Lord.
634. 43:25See, we can have lots of conversations,
635. 43:27but the ridgeways recorded their own babies ultrasound.
636. 43:30The ridgeways rejoice at the wise baby bump.
637. 43:33The ridgeways watch the child develop
638. 43:35and put it on for everybody to see for five months.
639. 43:40And guess what?
640. 43:41That means that they knew, oh, there's not a club of sales.
641. 43:43Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
642. 43:45They put their ultrasound up online.
643. 43:47You can go look it up.
644. 43:48Look at their ultrasound that they put online.
645. 43:50That is a baby.
646. 43:52That is a human being.
647. 43:54They know full well who is there.
648. 43:57And see, that's a part of the reason why this is drawn
649. 43:59so much attention because the liars
650. 44:02from Murder Incorporated, Planned Parenthood at Al,
651. 44:05They for the longest we'll try to him and haul about whether it's a baby and
652. 44:08I'll, no, no, no, no, no, no, the rich way is no full well.
653. 44:10That's a child.
654. 44:11They just have said, no, there's something more important than this child
655. 44:14having life and this diabolical.
656. 44:23It is diabolical.
657. 44:25It is ghastly.
658. 44:27It is barbaric.
659. 44:33And it echoes the reality, well, not echoes.
660. 44:35It demonstrates the reality that so many sectors of our society, so
661. 44:40many people in our country have such a low estimation for human life.
662. 44:44that is instead of being willing to protect the most vulnerable, that they'll kill the most vulnerable for their own convenience.
663. 44:53It reminds me, I shared this on my x-feed, and this is a longer quote, but at least the Childers posted this, and I thought, man, I think it would be heartening for our audience to see this and hear this.
664. 45:12She wrote this in light of the Ridgeway situation, quote, as I've pondered this over the last few days, I kept thinking about something Clay Jones wrote in his book,
665. 45:20in his book, Why Does God Allow Evil? Jones points out that when we think of genocide,
666. 45:27we think of demented psychopaths running around on murderous rampages. In reality,
667. 45:32genocide is mostly committed by normal everyday people, including moms, dads, and sweet grandmalls
668. 45:39who bake cookies for the bake scene. Jones writes, It has been fascinating to me that absolutely
669. 45:44every genocide researcher I have ever read, and I read a lot of them, and absolutely every genocide
670. 45:49victim I've ever read to a person concludes that genocide is what the average person does.
671. 45:57Professor and Holocaust survivor Fred E. Katz sums up exactly what kind of person participated in
672. 46:03the Holocaust. He wrote that only a tiny proportion of the massive killings are attributable to the act
673. 46:10those people we call criminals or crazy people or socially alienated people or even people we
674. 46:17identify as evil people. Rather, they were actually carried out by plain folk in the
675. 46:23population. Ordinary people like you and me.
676. 46:28Katz asks, who carried out the plans of the Hitler's installants? His conclusion? Ordinary
677. 46:34people like you and me? Then he asks, who provides the intelligence, the brain power,
678. 46:41the orderly thinking to translate crazy philosophies into a practical course of action? Ordinary
679. 46:47people like you and me. Finally, who provides the quiet, sustained effort? The
680. 46:51plain hard work it takes to carry out huge programs of murderous actions.
681. 46:55Ordinary people like you and me. One of the reasons the post below, talking about
682. 47:00the Ridgeway post is so chilling and horrifically evil is because it is so
683. 47:04casual, ordinary and nice. May God have mercy on us."
684. 47:11That doesn't hit the nail in the head. See right on this show we told you,
685. 47:20long ago from data provided by the Guttmacher Institute, which is the research arm of planned
686. 47:26murder hood. And that of the reasons why unborn children are murdered in utero. It's not an
687. 47:35incisive rape, incest of life and a mother. And my good friend, Ryan Bomberg has a new book
688. 47:41out on his very point whose mother courageously delivered him after he was conceived after having
689. 47:49and been horrifically after his mom was horrifically raped.
690. 47:54She wanted him to live and allowed him to live.
691. 47:57And he was adopted.
692. 47:58And it's a beautiful story.
693. 47:59I'm not going to tell it all here.
694. 48:01But by God's divine providence, he was connected
695. 48:03to his birth family here recently.
696. 48:05Oh, man, what a powerful story.
697. 48:07But they used that rape, incest, and life
698. 48:09and the mother thing as a red herring.
699. 48:12When they know, that represents less than 1%
700. 48:15of the total number.
701. 48:15The reality is we've been murdering babies here
702. 48:17for a long time for convenience.
703. 48:20And you think about the ones who are doing the murder,
704. 48:22it's not the grotesque Charlie Chaplin, Hitler
705. 48:26like a mustacheal type people, it's regular people.
706. 48:31It's regular people.
707. 48:34I can't tell you the times I've had counseling people
708. 48:37and a young girl is pregnant and her parents' pressure
709. 48:41to abort or a mom who has a decent job is pregnant.
710. 48:48but just decides it.
711. 48:49It's not these horrible circumstances for the most part.
712. 48:55Those things do exist from time to time,
713. 48:57but that's not the situation of the most part.
714. 48:59It's regular everyday people.
715. 49:03And we have these white paper positions in our minds,
716. 49:10but a lot of people in everyday lives
717. 49:11that live out with Barack Obama said,
718. 49:13I don't want, if my child makes a mistake,
719. 49:15I don't want her to have to live with a mistake
720. 49:17to be punished with a baby, punished.
721. 49:21Here, this is gripping to me personally because it's bringing the gross and the ugly underbelly
722. 49:30of what literally percolates in our society is bringing it to the forefront and shoving
723. 49:35it in our faces.
724. 49:38The prospect of difficulty for the child and difficulty for the parents led the parents
725. 49:44inside.
726. 49:45It's better to kill the child than to navigate the challenges and the difficulties that may
727. 49:51occur.
728. 49:57May God have mercy on us to open our eyes, man.
729. 50:02This is what I mean when I say the most desperate need in our nation is repentance.
730. 50:09Because we can't have white paper platitudes.
731. 50:14What we live has to be the byproduct of conviction.
732. 50:18As a result of what God has revealed to us through His high and holy word,
733. 50:23our society has tenderized into secularization.
734. 50:31And we need repentance desperately.
735. 50:40The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family Association or American Family Radio.