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2. 0:03It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
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10. 0:29and now the Hamilton Corner. The New Testament book of Romans chapter 1 verse 16, Paul says,
11. 0:37I am not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ for it is the power of God unto salvation
12. 0:44to the Jew first and also to the Greek or Gentile. Hi, Alex McFarland here. We've got a very special
13. 0:50edition of the Hamilton Corner, special for a number of reasons. One, tomorrow, very significant day,
14. 0:58May 14, 1948, the rebirth of the nation of Israel.
15. 1:03I can only imagine what was going on 78 years ago today on the eve of the rebirth of the
16. 1:10modern state of Israel.
17. 1:12What an amazing and I believe prophetically significant thing the world will commemorate
18. 1:18tomorrow.
19. 1:19But I'm also excited because we have a very special guest on this edition of the show.
20. 1:22And before I bring this guest up, I want to say what an honor it is to sit in for attorney,
21. 1:27broadcaster, Abe Hamilton III. I was on last night and you might want to go back. I feel
22. 1:33like we had a really good show talking about ministering to veterans, heard the testimony
23. 1:38of a colleague in the music industry, Greg Roles. But tonight, you know, I always love
24. 1:45to recommend good books. And Bert Harper and I, as you know, maybe, Bert and I have done
25. 1:52three books with Broad Street Publishing out of Minnesota, a very wonderful Christian publisher.
26. 1:59And they made me aware of an author. They have Ed Griffin-Hagen. And he's got a brand
27. 2:05new book that just came out. 365 Hebrew words every Christian should know, a daily devotional.
28. 2:13And the subtitle it says, see Jesus like never before, discover the Hebrew roots of the Christian
29. 2:18faith in a transformative new devotional. And the author of that book, Pastor Ed Griffin-Hagen,
30. 2:26is with us now. And we're going to hear about his journey to Yeshua, the Messiah. We'll talk about a
31. 2:33lot of other things. We'll also take calls later on in the show. So it's going to be a great show,
32. 2:38and I think just a rich show to get us more deeply into the Word of God. Well, without further ado,
33. 2:45Pastor Ed Griffin Hogg and welcome to the American Family Radio Network.
34. 2:50Hey, thank you for having me. I'm stoked to be here. Good to have you. Where are you from
35. 2:59and where are you now and how did God bring you to where you are in the journey, brother?
36. 3:04That's you got about a hour and a half for that question. How about an hour? Got you, Roger,
37. 3:11that. I'm from Columbus, Georgia, born and raised other than four great years in God's
38. 3:18country in Athens, Georgia, at the University of Georgia. And I came back here as soon as
39. 3:25I graduated from college and I've been here ever since, married my high school sweetheart.
40. 3:31We started dating when she was 14 and I was 16 and we've been married 38 years. And she
41. 3:41She was saved when she was 11 years old.
42. 3:45But when I was a senior in college, I asked her to marry me.
43. 3:49I was raised very Jewish.
44. 3:51And that sounds weird to say, but the synagogue was open.
45. 3:55We were there five days a week.
46. 3:57I went to Hebrew school on Tuesday and Thursday afternoons.
47. 4:01Had a worship service Friday night, Saturday morning.
48. 4:04I was there at Sunday school.
49. 4:05Had a bar mitzvah.
50. 4:07I remember the night before my bar mitzvah.
51. 4:10played a lot of football and I had a terrible break in my arm on the Thursday,
52. 4:16the Thursday night right before my bar mitzvah. And my dad came out in the stands and my dad was a
53. 4:21hard dude. West Point graduate served in Korea, you know, hardcore, strict right and wrong and
54. 4:28he walked down on the sidelines, saw me laying there with a broken arm and looked down and said,
55. 4:33you know, the shows goes on tomorrow night, right? And so I did my bar mitzvah
56. 4:39with my arm in a cast from shoulder to hand, packed in a bucket of ice because the show
57. 4:48must go on. So he asked my wife to marry me when I was a senior in college, but the stipulation
58. 4:58was that she converted to Judaism. That's the way my parents raised me. And like I said, she was
59. 5:04when she was 11, but she agreed, went through a year-long conversion process,
60. 5:10which is really just going to a class once a week, and then she had to go into a
61. 5:16MIKVA, which is like a ritual bath, sort of like a bath. And she got her Jewish
62. 5:23ID card we got married, but she never stopped believing in Yeshua. She just
63. 5:29learned that that was not even a subject in her conversion. There was no she'd have to
64. 5:35renounce Christ. She just had to learn the Jewish culture. So at the end of the day, 13 years into
65. 5:44our marriage, it was Y2K. You remember Y2K? Oh, I do. I do. December of 99, it made me think about
66. 5:53mortality, I guess. And in January I told my wife and I said, I want to know what's true
67. 6:00and what's not true. I think I'm going to read the Bible. It ought to be pretty easy to disprove,
68. 6:07you know, as God is giggling when I said that. It's the most arrogant thing I've ever said.
69. 6:12And I, you know, never read the Bible. All that Judaism growing up but never read the Bible,
70. 6:19learn Bible stories but never read the word. And I started reading in January of 2000 and within
71. 6:26probably a week or two, I was obsessed. Started on page one, Genesis 1-1 and I just was every night
72. 6:35from probably 10 at night when the kids and I had two little boys at the time when they went to bed
73. 6:40for three or four hours probably every night. And ultimately trying to disprove it. I believed in
74. 6:47God, but I did not believe that that book was historically accurate, nor was it inerrant
75. 6:55or infallible or any of that.
76. 6:59And I remember reading Genesis 15, 6, Abraham believed the Lord, and he was credited with
77. 7:05righteousness.
78. 7:06Amen.
79. 7:07I didn't know what that meant.
80. 7:09And I asked my wife who was walking on eggshells at the time, and I didn't realize her
81. 7:15old family was praying for me, but I didn't know that. But I asked her, I said, what does
82. 7:19that mean? And I said, it sounds like it means he's in heaven. And she said, yeah, I think
83. 7:25it does. And I said, but he didn't do anything. He just believed. He didn't do anything. Right.
84. 7:30I just kind of, I just kind of tuck that nugget in my pocket. And I plundered through the Old
85. 7:36Testament from January to September of 2000. And there were tons of, you know, Isaiah 53,
86. 7:45you know, the Jeremiah in Jeremiah 31 when he talks about the new covenant. And it won't
87. 7:52be like the old covenant that your grandma and granddaddy broke. And he says, I'm going to write it on
88. 7:57your hearts. And I had no idea who the Holy Spirit was. I truthfully, I didn't know Jesus was. I
89. 8:05I remember seeing a bumper sticker one time with my dad in the car said Jesus saves and I asked him what does that mean?
90. 8:11And he said I don't know and I just and I and we grew up in the Bible belt
91. 8:16No one ever shared the gospel with me in my entire life, which is crazy
92. 8:23But anyway, yes, do you think the average Jewish person?
93. 8:27And do you think the average Jewish person even really has heard an understandable presentation
94. 8:35of the gospel that we are sinners, but God took on a human body?
95. 8:41Jesus came down here, paid our sin debt, we put our faith, our trust in Christ, and we
96. 8:48are made new, born again.
97. 8:50I've got a dear friend, Marty Getz.
98. 8:52He's a born again Jewish musician, just incredible world class musician.
99. 8:57And he's got an original song called, a Jew Made New, or a Jew Born A New.
100. 9:03Do you think the average Jewish person, precious, precious Jewish people all around us, do they
101. 9:11actually really understand the claims of the gospel?
102. 9:16Absolutely, unconditionally, emphatically know.
103. 9:21Definitely.
104. 9:22Definitely.
105. 9:23I didn't know who Jesus was.
106. 9:24was. And I mean, I live in the same South Georgia, man, there's a thousand churches. But no, I think
107. 9:30maybe there's this perception that it's too tough of a nut to crack. I don't know. You know, I was
108. 9:3935 and you would think that somebody would have shared the gospel with me. Now, I would have been
109. 9:44very, very antagonistic towards that if it had happened. I'm sure I would have been. But I ended
110. 9:55up picking that Bible up because I wanted to know what was true, objectively true, not
111. 10:01because somebody told me it was true.
112. 10:04You know, at the end of the day, Jesus either ran out of grave alive or he didn't and my
113. 10:09belief doesn't make it happen and my unbelief doesn't make it not happen.
114. 10:14Right, right.
115. 10:15It's objectively it happened or not.
116. 10:17And so that's really why I dug in ultimately probably to try to disprove it but at a minimum
117. 10:24to come up with a conclusion that nobody sort of crammed down my throat. I hope that makes sense.
118. 10:30Sure. So, by the way, a week ago this time I was in Washington with 550 Jewish people. We were
119. 10:40lobbying various elected officials to try to encourage our administration to maintain a strong
120. 10:47friendship with Israel, which I believe they're doing. But I remember I was at a banquet Tuesday
121. 10:53night just eight days ago. And I was looking around precious people. I mean you just can't
122. 10:59help but love these Jewish people, many of whom came to the mic and they were just very
123. 11:05emotional saying like we get it. Evangelical Christians are the best friend Israel and
124. 11:12the Jews have ever had. Thank you for standing with Israel. And yet I was thinking about the
125. 11:19words of Paul when he said, my heart's desire and prayer for Israel is that they would be
126. 11:24saved. So Ed, and by the way, folks, if you're just tuning in, we're talking with Ed Griffin
127. 11:30Hogg and the author of the book, 365 Hebrew words, every Christian should know. I realize
128. 11:39this is maybe a tough question to answer, Ed, but to what degree are Jewish people thinking
129. 11:46about Jesus and what do they believe about Jesus?
130. 11:50It's zero degree.
131. 11:53And I'm painting with a broad brush, I guess.
132. 11:57When you grow up with a lot of, quote, religion, a lot of Judaism, I mean, we were there, we
133. 12:04didn't sit a guy.
134. 12:05I mean, we were just there, we were immersed in it as kids.
135. 12:09And of course, my mom and dad were as well.
136. 12:12But he's not a subject of discussion because if the New Testament is not scripture, if the
137. 12:21New Testament is not God's Word, then you don't really know anything about him.
138. 12:26Now, we weren't taught, and we literally weren't taught anything about him, but we definitely
139. 12:32weren't taught that he was not a historical figure.
140. 12:36If you'd have said to me even 40 years ago when I was 20 years old, tell me who Jesus
141. 12:42Jesus is, I would have said, I don't know, I guess he was, he was some prophet.
142. 12:47That would have been probably the extent of, of my understanding.
143. 12:52He's just not an issue in Judaism, which is so foreign for Christians to sort of wrap their
144. 13:00arms around.
145. 13:01Yeah.
146. 13:02So what about the afterlife, eternity?
147. 13:05Because I was, this is about five years ago, I was talking with a rabbi and it kind of blew
148. 13:11my mind that this particular rabbi with whom I spoke, we had a very friendly conversation,
149. 13:17but he was saying, you know, he said, he doesn't, he didn't really believe in any sort of afterlife,
150. 13:23neither heaven nor hell that, you know, when you die, that's it. And I was amazed at how
151. 13:30secular, really, this particular rabbi with whom I spoke, we had very wonderful, a series
152. 13:39of conversations, but he was like, look, do good in this life, make the world a better
153. 13:44place.
154. 13:45But he didn't really believe the soul survived death, which was a big surprise to me.
155. 13:53But so what would, and again, painting with a broad brush here, I suppose, but what do
156. 14:00they believe about the afterlife?
157. 14:02Where does the soul go after death?
158. 14:04So my belief back up, I've been saved 25 years, so back up 26 plus years ago, my belief would
159. 14:13have been, I don't know if there is a heaven and I act good enough that I guess I'll be
160. 14:20there, and I would not have thought another thing about it.
161. 14:23Now, when after I got saved in 2001, and my family just absolutely put us to the curb
162. 14:35seven years later, the Lord reconciled me and my parents relationship.
163. 14:40Hey, hold up, forgive me.
164. 14:42We got to take a break.
165. 14:43We got to take a break, folks.
166. 14:44This is the Hamilton Corner.
167. 14:45Alex MacFarlane, our guest, Ed Griffin-Huggan, author, filmmaker, believer in Jesus.
168. 14:51We're going to come back with more and your questions after this brief break.
169. 15:03Shiting light into the darkness, this is the Hamilton Quarter, an American family radio.
170. 15:10Welcome back to the program, Alex McFarland here.
171. 15:13You know, one of our core values is as a Christian lifelong learning and the stewardship
172. 15:20of the mind.
173. 15:21You know, John Wesley, the founder of Methodism, John Wesley, a couple of quotes.
174. 15:26He said that the local congregation deserves the highest scholarship the church can offer.
175. 15:32But he also said this, or at least this quote is attributed to John Wesley, those who read
176. 15:38lead.
177. 15:39That's a great thought.
178. 15:40And so Ed Griffin-Hagen in his book on 365 Hebrew words every Christian should know.
179. 15:47I mean, the thing that excites me for readers is, you know, learning the meanings and pronunciations
180. 15:53of key Hebrew words, and the thing like the Jewish festivals and traditions, the rich
181. 16:00truths behind these Jewish festivals, and then how they have their fulfillment in Jesus Christ.
182. 16:07And so I think that this book will be a blessing and very enlightening, but also I think it
183. 16:13will prepare Christians to be more and more conversant with the precious Jewish people
184. 16:20they may know about sharing the gospel. And with us is the author of that book, Ed Griffin
185. 16:26Hagen. And before the break, Brother Ed, I asked you about Jewish views on the afterlife.
186. 16:35And I shared that I was having a series of lunches and conversations with, well, a lot
187. 16:41of Jewish people, but a particular rabbi who kind of blew me out of the water. And he said
188. 16:46But he didn't really believe in any afterlife.
189. 16:49And that was revelatory because I just assumed that heaven and eternity were really important
190. 16:56as they should be for all people, but continue.
191. 16:59Before the break, you were talking about your view on eternity, you know, prior to becoming
192. 17:06a Christian.
193. 17:07I want you to complete that thought if you would.
194. 17:11You know, my belief was simply if I acted good enough and haven't existed, then I would be there.
195. 17:18No one ever asked me what good enough meant, of course.
196. 17:21And I don't know how I would have answered that then.
197. 17:24I probably would have said, I don't know, you know, good enough, good enough.
198. 17:27But that was as far as it went.
199. 17:31And you know, jumping back because this is going to be relevant, because it's relevant to the way that I was raised.
200. 17:39As I started to share my testimony a minute ago,
201. 17:44how I came to the foot of the cross or landed at the foot of the cross.
202. 17:47In January to September of 2000,
203. 17:51read the Old Testament word for word from Genesis 1 to the end of Old Testament.
204. 17:57And in September I finished and I had no intention on reading the New Testament
205. 18:01because good Jews, it's not the Bible.
206. 18:04So why would I read that?
207. 18:05But I know the Holy Spirit was working on me,
208. 18:08but I didn't know who the Holy Spirit was.
209. 18:10I just felt very, very compelled to read it.
210. 18:13I wrestled with that for a couple of weeks.
211. 18:15And I literally snuck into a Christian bookstore
212. 18:19because I knew if my dad saw me going in there,
213. 18:21it would be ugly.
214. 18:23So I snuck in there, bought a New Testament, read it.
215. 18:27The Lord kind of put his hooks in me
216. 18:29with the genealogy of Christ in the beginning of Matthew.
217. 18:33into the day, I finished the New Testament and the Lord just worked on me so hard and
218. 18:41I was driving to work in my truck January 17th of 01 and I just realized every bit of
219. 18:49it's true that a dead guy went in a grave and alive Jesus came out and it was all true
220. 18:57in history it really happened and and it just I cried out by myself at 5 30 in the
221. 19:04morning that morning Lord have mercy on me a sinner and from Luke 18 it's just
222. 19:10what was ingrained in my head when told my parents that night and it was the ugliest
223. 19:16scene you could ever imagine and me and my dad were thickest thieves very close
224. 19:21worked together for years. And I was dead to them and my wife was dead to them, but my
225. 19:29two children, my two boys were not dead to them, but they didn't speak to us for seven
226. 19:34years. And it was just, it was so ugly. Seven years later, the Lord reconciled our relationship
227. 19:42and in the course of a conversation, I asked my mom, I said, well, mama, I said, what
228. 19:48you think is going to happen when you die?" And she said, I don't care, I'll be dead. That's it.
229. 19:53It's annihilationism at the end of the day. She didn't use that word. But that is, and you don't
230. 20:00need the New Testament to see a development of heaven and hell. So it's just secular,
231. 20:08or maybe even secular American Judaism, I'm not sure,
232. 20:15but you would be hard pressed to find a Jew
233. 20:19except for Orthodox Jews, probably,
234. 20:22that would believe in a heaven or hell.
235. 20:25Right, right.
236. 20:26So when you came to Christ,
237. 20:30what was the motivation to believe what's true
238. 20:34and you realized Jesus was true,
239. 20:36Was it to be prepared for eternity and, you know, to go to heaven, not hell when you leave this world?
240. 20:45What was the main incentive for believing in Jesus?
241. 20:49I think that I wanted, I was on a quest for truth because I knew in my head that
242. 20:57A can't equal negative A at the same time and place.
243. 21:01So either Jesus was resurrected or he wasn't.
244. 21:04All of the other theology that develops at the core,
245. 21:09is did the resurrection happen?
246. 21:12And were prophecies fulfilled blah, blah, blah, but,
247. 21:17so it was, I mean, when Peter and Paul and James
248. 21:20and all the guys are going out,
249. 21:22they're not going out and preaching a bunch of theology,
250. 21:24they're preaching a dead guy's walking.
251. 21:26He's alive, the resurrection is real,
252. 21:29and that's just a game changer.
253. 21:30And so once I believed that that actually happened,
254. 21:35I had no choice.
255. 21:36I'm like, if that happened, it took care of a sin problem
256. 21:41because original sin, the fall, is not taught
257. 21:45in Jewish theology.
258. 21:47We are not inherently sinful creatures in Jewish theology.
259. 21:52So I had to get to that,
260. 21:54because I thought and was raised
261. 21:56that people were basically good.
262. 21:59Well, you don't have to get too far in that Bible
263. 22:01to find out the Bible doesn't say that.
264. 22:03Yeah. Well, exactly. And hey, by the way, we are going to take calls. If you've got a question
265. 22:10later on, we'll open up the phones about maybe if you are Jewish and you've got questions about
266. 22:16Jesus and what does it mean to know the Lord or maybe like myself, you passionately care
267. 22:22about the evangelization of Jewish people. I'm going to give the number. It'll be about
268. 22:27nine minutes or so before we get to it, but the number is triple eight, five, eight, nine,
269. 22:33eighty eight, forty, triple eight, five, eight, nine, eighty eight, forty, our guest, Ed
270. 22:39Griffin-Hagen.
271. 22:40I've got to ask you about the book because it just perfect, perfect concept about 365
272. 22:49Hebrew words that every Christian should know.
273. 22:53What are some of those words, Pastor Ed Griffin-Hagen?
274. 22:56Well, you know, it's a it's a devotional so it's written in a devotional format each
275. 23:02Obviously each day is a Hebrew word and
276. 23:05ultimately
277. 23:07Everything in scripture points to Christ. So that would include the language the idioms the culture the everything and so I
278. 23:16Just I took words
279. 23:18Generally words out of the Old Testament in Hebrew and God is this incredible dot connector and and everything
280. 23:26I remember growing up, there's a word in Hebrew it's called Hesped, which is the traditional
281. 23:33beating of your chest. And it's done in Jewish culture, it's done in extreme grief or extreme
282. 23:43mourning, MOU are in energy, extreme mourning funerals and when you're grieving and when you're
283. 23:48remorseful. Well, it's still done today. On Yom Kippur, the day of atonement, the holiest day in the
284. 23:55Jewish year, there's a prayer that is said called the alphate and this 53
285. 24:01You you you are looking for God to forgive you. It's a list of 53 sins
286. 24:07And you ask him by name, you know, lord forgive me grant me a tome
287. 24:12For the sin of coveting or whatever it is the whole time you're doing that you're beating your chest
288. 24:17And you you you repeat that prayer five or ten times it takes forever
289. 24:22I remember being a kid at the synagogue and it's and so if you look in Luke 18
290. 24:28the parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector and
291. 24:31The tax collectors over there beating his breast crying out to the Lord to have Lord have mercy on me a sinner and the Pharisee
292. 24:38Is self-righteous and says at least I'm not like that dirt bag tax collector over there
293. 24:44If you know that this is what he was doing and it was a sign of extreme grief
294. 24:51when you know those sorts of things and that's the kind of stuff that I talk
295. 24:55about in the devotional, you're going to read, I want people to read this book,
296. 25:01it's not a textbook, it's not a learn the necessary learn the Hebrew language, but
297. 25:07it is the language that God chose for the Old Testament to reveal himself. So
298. 25:13hopefully people read the book and their relationship with the creator of the
299. 25:17universe is going to deepen and it will hopefully arm them with a clearer,
300. 25:23comprehensive biblical worldview to go share the Christ that is revealed in all
301. 25:30of the Scripture. There's tons of words that do that. The mercy seat. Go ahead, I'm sorry.
302. 25:38The mercy seat. So I was just thinking of the irony of like Yom Kippur in the
303. 25:44day of atonement if you don't believe that there's original sin and the imputed unrighteousness
304. 25:51of Adam and Eve for what do you need to be atoned?
305. 25:57Well you are asking literally, you are asking for forgiveness for the sins that you have
306. 26:03committed since the last young comport.
307. 26:07Okay.
308. 26:08there is no permanent remission of sin. The sacrificial system was always just temporary.
309. 26:17Yeah. So give us some more of these words, then I've got a couple of other questions I'm
310. 26:26going to ask you. The mercy seat is one rock my world. Caporath is the Hebrew word that is used
311. 26:34in in Exodus when the Lord tells is laying out the tabernacle, the temple, the template,
312. 26:39you know, and he says you're going to make a mercy seat of gold that would cover the
313. 26:44Ark of the Covenant. And that is where God's justice and mercy are going to crash together
314. 26:51at the mercy seat. And that, and it's in the holy of holies right in the tabernacle and
315. 26:58then in the temple. And the only one, the high priest is the only one that could go in there
316. 27:03And only one day on the day of atonement, it was a drapery or a veil that ended up tearing.
317. 27:09Obviously when Jesus was crucified, but the high priest would go in, he would sprinkle
318. 27:15goat's blood across the mercy seat to make atonement for his family and for the nation
319. 27:20of Israel.
320. 27:21Well, when Paul writes in Romans 3, verse 24, 25, and he talks about Jesus being, depends
321. 27:29on your translation.
322. 27:31Negotiation is a typical ESV or New King James
323. 27:36There are translations that use mercy see that Jesus is
324. 27:40The mercy seat
325. 27:42Yeah, and the word that's used there in Greek is a Greek translation of the Hebrew word
326. 27:48Caporath
327. 27:50Okay, so the Old Testament mercy seat where atonement is made is now
328. 27:55incarnated in the person of Christ.
329. 28:00You don't get that in a superficial reading of Scripture.
330. 28:04No, no.
331. 28:06But when you think about it...
332. 28:07Think about it.
333. 28:08...it is our mercy seed, isn't he?
334. 28:10That is, he absolutely is.
335. 28:12He is where justice, God's justice, and mercy crash together and save a wretched human like
336. 28:20me.
337. 28:22Wow.
338. 28:23Powerful.
339. 28:24before we go too much further
340. 28:27websites where can people find you online
341. 28:30well the uh...
342. 28:32edgruffandagan dot com is is my website and uh... you know
343. 28:36stuff about the book there's
344. 28:38you have a little podcast that
345. 28:40we took a hiatus for a while and i have a new
346. 28:42co-host the podcast is called black white and the red letters
347. 28:47and a guy named Cameron Arnett
348. 28:49i don't know if you know Cameron Arnett he's an actor
349. 28:51african-american actor great guy
350. 28:54We're doing it together. It launches in about three weeks, the new season.
351. 28:59There's some stuff about that on our website. And then the Christian film
352. 29:03foundation.org is a foundation that I, in the director of,
353. 29:10I work for Steven and Alex Kendrick, the Kendrick brothers, I'm on their team.
354. 29:15And that's my role on their team. And we work on their movies. My wife has been
355. 29:20working on their movie since 2018.
356. 29:22So, Kinderbrothers.com or the Christian Film Foundation.org or at GriffinHagan.com.
357. 29:28What do you have coming up, uh,
358. 29:31cinematically? What films are on the docket now?
359. 29:35Well, in September,
360. 29:38their first movie, which was called Flywheel,
361. 29:42that they shot, uh, with a very, very minimal, tiny little budget
362. 29:4822 or three years ago was redone.
363. 29:52We redid it last fall.
364. 29:54It releases in September.
365. 29:55It was shot in Brazil in Portuguese with an all Brazilian cast and crew because one of
366. 30:03the things that we want to do is raise up Christian filmmakers all over the world.
367. 30:09And so this is a Brazilian team.
368. 30:12It releases in the United States in October.
369. 30:14Brazil in September the United States in October, but it's in Portuguese and it will be either dubbed or subtitled in English
370. 30:21In the release here, and then we're shooting the book of Ruth next spring which is gonna be an epic epic epic
371. 30:29film
372. 30:31Telling of the book of Ruth and where are you gonna film that?
373. 30:3590% Morocco oh
374. 30:37Wow, so we're gonna be planting gonna be planting barley in the next few months
375. 30:42in Morocco's total, be able to be harvested next spring.
376. 30:48That is gonna be good.
377. 30:49Have you got all the cast in place for the book of Ruth film?
378. 30:53No, no, no, no.
379. 30:55Yeah.
380. 30:56All of that is in the works.
381. 30:59That is exciting.
382. 31:01That is exciting.
383. 31:02Well folks, we're talking about the Jewish elements
384. 31:05of the Christian faith.
385. 31:06And we've got Ed Griffin-Hagen, author, filmmaker,
386. 31:10brother in Christ. I bet you have questions. I know I do. The number is
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406. 32:44Welcome back to the program.
407. 32:46We're talking with author, filmmaker, Christian leader Ed Griffin-Hagen.
408. 32:51One of the things that, part of the reason I do give a lot of coverage to America's relationship
409. 32:57with Israel and how the branches grafted in are indebted to the root Israel and the, I believe,
410. 33:08in the Abrahamic Covenant.
411. 33:10I do not believe in what is sometimes called replacement theology.
412. 33:14I think the Abrahamic Covenant is an everlasting covenant, as the Bible says.
413. 33:20And part of the reason that I think we need to be passionate about these things is because
414. 33:25that we're also living in a time of a rise of anti-Semitism.
415. 33:31And in this age of human rights, civil rights, equality, social justice, it's just ironic,
416. 33:39very sad actually, that the one form of hatred that seems to get a pass is animosity against
417. 33:47Jewish people. And so we need to stand up and unequivocally condemn anti-Semitism. Our
418. 33:53guest is Ed Griffin-Huggan. If you have a question for him, the number is 888-588-40.
419. 34:00And to my producers, just either text me or tell me in my headphone, it will put calls
420. 34:07on.
421. 34:08Let me ask you this, the rise of anti-Semitism, and especially since the October 7 attacks
422. 34:20on Israel there at the NOVA concert, isn't it ironic that rather than condemn Hamas and
423. 34:30terrorism, many on the left have been shown solidarity with the terrorist and condemnation
424. 34:39of Israel.
425. 34:40It's tragically ironic, isn't it?
426. 34:44No, again, it makes absolutely no sense in no way, shape, or form.
427. 34:50It makes absolutely no sense.
428. 34:52Yeah, exactly.
429. 34:53That a cousin have a cousin that lived in in Tel Aviv
430. 34:59They moved she's been there 25 or 30 years and it moved there
431. 35:04She went when she was 18 or 19 called her parents and said I'm not coming home. I'm staying and
432. 35:11married had a couple of kids and
433. 35:15Probably about a year ago
434. 35:16She she said you know what? I'm tired of running into bomb shelters
435. 35:21because crazy people are trying to kill me and they move back to the states.
436. 35:26Goodness. My goodness. Well we're gonna go to some calls and where do we go first
437. 35:32guys? Do we have the calls ready? Kelly from Ohio. Kelly thanks for holding welcome
438. 35:45to the American Family Radio Network. Wonderful thank you so much for taking
439. 35:50my call. I've been praying about this issue and then lo and behold a turn is
440. 35:56the radio on and there you guys are.
441. 35:58There we go.
442. 36:01Yeah, so our son has walked away from the faith, so we're praying.
443. 36:10The faith that God will complete the good work that he started, but he is going to marry
444. 36:22if you say culturally pushed not religiously Jewish by the way.
445. 36:39So just I want to remain in prayer, but just any hints, tips,
446. 36:50is a complicated issue, but just to, I don't know, tap.
447. 36:55Great question, great question. Ed, do you have any advice for Kelly?
448. 37:04Can you give me a quick synopsis of the question? I only could hear about half of it.
449. 37:09Okay. Her son is getting married to a Jewish girl who, you know, exposed somewhat to Christianity
450. 37:21through Catholicism, but pretty nominal. Any advice for this engaged couple and maybe even the
451. 37:31daughter-in-law's family at large how to bring Jesus to them? Yeah, I think, and I've seen this
452. 37:38play out. It's played out a little bit in my family, not a lot, but a little bit is if you can get
453. 37:46them to dig into the Old Testament. You know, if you say you need to read the Gospel of John,
454. 37:54they are going to throw it back in your face. They just are. I would have. But if you can get them
455. 38:01just to want to know what is true and just read the Bible. Just read starting Genesis and just read
456. 38:08the Bible and I trust almost every time I've done that with somebody, I didn't cram it down
457. 38:15their throat, but just read the scriptures and God will do something with that. And at the end of the
458. 38:22day, way more times than not, the Lord will reveal himself through the texture and the pages of that
459. 38:31Bible of that text. He will reveal himself in an undeniable way. And at the end of it all, it all
460. 38:38points to Christ. So many, many more times than not the people I've kind of done that
461. 38:45alongside of, they end up in the New Testament too, and they end up asking questions, and
462. 38:53you can have a conversation with them when they're bringing up the questions. It's all
463. 39:02about God's Word. Amen. And pray. And let me just say too, Kelly and everybody listening.
464. 39:10A lot of times when I've been trying to bring somebody to Christ, I would fast and pray.
465. 39:15Mark 926 says, some things are only accomplished through prayer and fasting. It's amazing how
466. 39:22when you pray and fast and pray, the Spirit of God really, really powerfully works. Bob,
467. 39:31We have one more thing to sure sure yeah, go ahead. I want to encourage you with what Alex just said
468. 39:37My one of my wife's ants passed away three years ago
469. 39:41And I got the opportunity to do her funeral and they gave me her family gave me her Bible and in the pages written in her Bible
470. 39:49It said Judy who was my wife's mother
471. 39:53Judy's daughter Susan started dating a Jewish boy today
472. 39:57I'm praying for him. It was dated November 13th, 1981. She prayed, they told me she prayed for me every single day
473. 40:07for 20 years
474. 40:09until I got saved in
475. 40:112001 and I had no idea
476. 40:14that that was going on.
477. 40:16The prayers of God, Lee, men and women.
478. 40:19I've got a testimony like that. I'm gonna share maybe if we have time that I want to go to Tennessee right now.
479. 40:25Now, Mary in Tennessee.
480. 40:28Mary, are you there?
481. 40:30Yes, I'm here.
482. 40:30Thank you for taking my call.
483. 40:32Thank you for holding.
484. 40:33Welcome.
485. 40:35I had a question for how we can support.
486. 40:45Great.
487. 40:46Great.
488. 40:47Ed, what do you, she said, how do we support Jews in Israel
489. 40:51and around the world?
490. 40:52And then where might she find your book?
491. 40:56Christians United for Israel is a wonderful organization,
492. 41:00a wonderful organization.
493. 41:03The book you can find it on Amazon, you can find it at Barnes & Noble, Walmart, really
494. 41:10all over the place.
495. 41:13Not every Walmart has it in their stores, it's probably about 150 do, but walmart.com,
496. 41:19Barnes & Noble, and Amazon.
497. 41:22And by the way, let me say to everybody listening, I realize what I'm about to say is a little
498. 41:26bit ambitious, but if you can go to Israel, Wildman tours, Tim Wildman, the president
499. 41:32of the American Family Association.
500. 41:34They lead tours.
501. 41:35In fact, Tim and I, we were on the phone today.
502. 41:37We'll be going in November of this year.
503. 41:40I'll be teaching at many, many, many biblical sites.
504. 41:43So will Tim.
505. 41:44But tourism is really big over there.
506. 41:48It's a big part of their economy, actually.
507. 41:50Plus, you'll see the land of the Bible.
508. 41:53And I believe it is completely safe.
509. 41:56I've been to Israel.
510. 41:57I led a tour there a few years ago.
511. 42:01So praise, you know, Psalm 122 verse 6,
512. 42:04as pray for the peace of Jerusalem, and we should do that.
513. 42:08But when you can go to Israel,
514. 42:11and also, you know, if you have friends in your city,
515. 42:15Jewish people, just let them know we love you,
516. 42:18we're praying for you, and we stand for the human rights,
517. 42:22the worth, the humanity, the dignity of all Jews,
518. 42:26and we stand for Israel.
519. 42:29but we're going to go to Clarita.
520. 42:31I believe in Louisiana.
521. 42:33Clarita, are you there?
522. 42:35I am here.
523. 42:37Yeah, thank you.
524. 42:38I think it's a good work.
525. 42:39Action, what do you have to say about cremation?
526. 42:41I think I read in the Bible
527. 42:43that the only time we sort of do cremation
528. 42:45is for death or illness.
529. 42:48And the second one, did he get baptized?
530. 42:51Did he go under the water?
531. 42:53Do you mean Jesus or our guest?
532. 42:57No, our guest.
533. 43:00Our guest.
534. 43:00about you know, how he came to be a Christian, but he never did say that he
535. 43:05did that time, did he receive the Lord's Supper table. I'm big with the
536. 43:09baptism because I feel that that's why we received the Holy Ghost and did he have
537. 43:14this Lord's Supper table? Do he believe? What do you have to say about
538. 43:17cremation? Okay.
539. 43:19The big thing in Louisiana, everybody want to be cremated and I keep telling them.
540. 43:23Okay, let me jump in on this. Ed, collars asking, what are your beliefs? What do you think the Bible
541. 43:29teaches about cremation. She also asked if I was baptized? Yes. And I want to get to that in a moment,
542. 43:38but cremation is cremation appropriate for a Christian? I would say yes. I would say
543. 43:50now with a little bit of a caveat because in Judaism you're not embalmed and the casket is all
544. 43:59wood with no metal because there should be nothing in Jewish theology, nothing should hinder
545. 44:06the natural decaying process if that makes sense.
546. 44:12Generally, Christians are embalmed and put in a metal casket.
547. 44:19Personally, I had no problem with cremation.
548. 44:22Yeah.
549. 44:23I don't need there.
550. 44:24I think it's a matter of Christian liberty and choice.
551. 44:28just about baptism. And let me just say in that I'll throw it to Ed, and we have not
552. 44:33you know, rehearsed this ahead of time. The New Testament uses baptism in a couple of
553. 44:38ways. And I know when we hear baptism, we think of water baptism, which you know, sometimes
554. 44:45you'll hear the term believers baptism, which I completely believe in. But one of
555. 44:50the senses that the New Testament uses word baptism is in the book of Galatians, where
556. 44:56it says that we are baptized into Christ through faith. And so people ask me, do you
557. 45:03have to be baptized to be saved? Well, baptized into Christ upon our faith in Jesus, we are
558. 45:12baptized. That's a Greek word immersed in Jesus. Now, I believe water baptism is a public
559. 45:19way to show forth that. But baptism and the Lord's Supper, Ed, the color one to know,
560. 45:27have you experienced these and what role does that play in your Christian walk?
561. 45:32Oh, yeah. Well, I'm a pastor, a full-time pastor now. So I want to dunk as many people
562. 45:38as I can. I want to batis though as many people as I can batis though. I was batized, my wife
563. 45:45and I were baptized immersed in water on Christmas Eve of the year that I got saved.
564. 45:52And it was just the most amazing breathtaking experience to do that together.
565. 46:00And my belief in water baptism is you use the term believers baptism.
566. 46:04I don't believe there's anything salvific in that water.
567. 46:08We are baptized as believers, as an active obedience that represents a rebirth and inward
568. 46:18transformed heart.
569. 46:20We're in the lightness of Christ's death and raised to walk in the newness of life.
570. 46:26But I don't think you can't be lost to get baptized in that water saved you.
571. 46:31I just don't think that's biblical.
572. 46:33My dad.
573. 46:34I agree.
574. 46:35My dad.
575. 46:36I saved.
576. 46:37My dad got saved the day before he died, and he was not sick.
577. 46:42He was not on his death, but well, he was in the bed, but he was not supposed to die.
578. 46:47And unbelievably enough, he got saved, and then he died the next day.
579. 46:52He was not baptized.
580. 46:54And you can't tell me that he is in hell.
581. 46:56He is in the arms of Yeshua is where it is.
582. 46:59Amen.
583. 47:00Let me encourage everybody to read Galatians 3, 26, 27.
584. 47:03But it says through faith in Jesus were baptized into Christ.
585. 47:08So you know, time fleets away.
586. 47:10I know we had Susan from Virginia and I'm sorry, we're just about out of time.
587. 47:14I got to have you on.
588. 47:15I got to tell you the story of a Jewish man.
589. 47:18He had a clothing store in my hometown.
590. 47:20I went and witnessed to him and about 15 years after his death, I learned that he accepted
591. 47:26Christ and became a believer in Yeshua, just like yourself.
592. 47:31To God be the glory.
593. 47:32Ed, give your website and thank you for being with us.
594. 47:37Yeah, and Ed, GriffinHagan.com.
595. 47:39E-D-G-R-I-F-E-N-H-A-G-E-N.com.
596. 47:44And Ed Griffin Hagan on all the social media stuff.
597. 47:47Hey, thanks.
598. 47:48We're almost out of time, folks.
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