Alex Newman returns to “The Corner” to discuss his new book Woke and Weaponized.

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11. 0:32Good evening, everyone.
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18. 0:49with today's edition of the program.
19. 0:51At this very moment, many of you, if not most of you,
20. 0:53are making your transition from your part-time jobs,
21. 0:56where you generate an income to your full-time jobs,
22. 0:59where you cultivate an outcome.
23. 1:00And as you do so, I want to remind you to do so with intentionality,
24. 1:04understand in the primacy that God places on family and allowing that to govern
25. 1:09and to guide and to frankly guard your engagement with your families.
26. 1:14We're going to have a conversation about that quite a bit today because there are
27. 1:19lots of things happening all over the world.
28. 1:21This, what a week this has been with, you know,
29. 1:24Operation Epic Fury, Transpiring in Iran.
30. 1:30The questions, the questions that I asked,
31. 1:34what was that?
32. 1:35Wednesday evening,
33. 1:38concerning what the future might be,
34. 1:40and all of these things happening all at the same time,
35. 1:43but we have to be very, very intentional to refuse
36. 1:45to allow those things to cause us to neglect
37. 1:49what should be primary for us,
38. 1:50which is what happens in our homes.
39. 1:53Happens in our homes.
40. 1:55as I say on a regular basis, what goes on in your house is far more important, far more
41. 2:01important than what goes on in the White House. We have to understand that and we have to
42. 2:06have to engage from that perspective because we will never as a society outpace the deficiencies
43. 2:13that abound in the home. And there are lots of places like mid-term elections are coming
44. 2:18up. You know, one elected official leaves, another one replaces. There are lots of, lots of
45. 2:24context in our country where frankly you and I are replaceable, you know,
46. 2:31but you want to know where you're not replaceable in your home.
47. 2:33My children won't have another dad.
48. 2:39They may have other people that helped and well, but nobody else can be me to my
49. 2:43children. Nobody else can be Maria to my children.
50. 2:47And we need to recognize that and govern ourselves accordingly.
51. 2:54It's because that is true.
52. 2:56It's because that is true.
53. 2:58We can't afford to come up short there.
54. 3:02And one of the things I say repeatedly,
55. 3:03and I don't say this in order to be unnecessarily provocative,
56. 3:08God's grace is sufficient for all sin
57. 3:12in terms of its eternal consequences.
58. 3:15But not all sin has the same consequence in time.
59. 3:18And one of the things, and I'm literally living this,
60. 3:20it's amazing to think about it.
61. 3:22I got a son with a driver's permit now.
62. 3:23Can you believe that?
63. 3:25with a driver's permit. I can't go back and do 10 years old anymore. I can't go back and I can't
64. 3:31redo 12. I can't go and redo seven ages, seven to 10. I can't do that. I can't go back and do that.
65. 3:38Which is why I am encouraging you and my prayer for our audience here is that we are able to reduce
66. 3:44the quantities of people who say, man, hey, if I wish I'd have known that win, you know,
67. 3:50that's one of the things that happens frequently. It happened in one of my most recent speaking
68. 3:54opportunities. I had a sister come up to me and said, man, I wish I
69. 3:57came across your ministry where my children were still young.
70. 4:01And you know, that that really hurts my heart to see because
71. 4:06frankly, God has given us his word and his spirit. But the
72. 4:10reality is we allow popular notions of normality blunt our
73. 4:13discernment, which is why we often make choices and do things.
74. 4:16What do you think about it? Wait a minute, has God have an
75. 4:19opinion on this? What has God given us counsel and guidance in
76. 4:22his word as to how we should go about this.
77. 4:24And by the time we realize what has actually transpired for some of us, some of us, we're
78. 4:30at a later stage.
79. 4:31Now, this is not to make anybody despondent or listful because you only know what you know
80. 4:35when you know it.
81. 4:37But now that you know, what are you going to do with it?
82. 4:41Now that you know, what are you going to do with it?
83. 4:45That is the question that all of us must wrestle with and come to terms within ourselves.
84. 4:49So with that to the word of God, we go Ephesians 5, Ephesians 5 verses 7 through 10.
85. 5:01Let's see, is that picked 10?
86. 5:03Yes, 7 through 10.
87. 5:05Now I want to remind you guys, and I've shared this before, Paul's Epistle to the Ephesians,
88. 5:09there are only six chapters.
89. 5:11The first half of Paul's Epistle to the Ephesians is written in the indicative mood in Greek,
90. 5:15indicating transcendent theological truths where you get things like,
91. 5:19for you were dead and trespasses and sin, but you were quick and alive together in Christ Jesus.
92. 5:23That's an indication of who we are in light of what Christ has done. The second half, chapters
93. 5:29four through six is written in the imperative mood. These are commands. This is where you get
94. 5:33things like, husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself for her. That's
95. 5:37a command. That's not a suggestion. That's also you get things like wives, submit yourselves to
96. 5:42your own husband's ass and to the Lord. That's a command. That's where you also get
97. 5:48Things like children obey your parents and the Lord for this is right.
98. 5:53This is the first command with promise.
99. 5:54So also you get the command, fathers do not exacerbate your children,
100. 5:58rather rear them in the nurture and admonition of the Lord, the pidea
101. 6:02and nuthisia of the Lord.
102. 6:03That's a command that's not a suggestion.
103. 6:07And it's important for us to understand that.
104. 6:10And this is where we also get the portion of the text that we're going to delve into today,
105. 6:13Ephesians 5, verses 7 through 10.
106. 6:15And it says this, therefore, now, I'll tell my children this,
107. 6:18We talk about this in our church. Whenever you see a therefore, you have to find out what it's there for.
108. 6:22All right. So the therefore in verse seven is because of all of the things that have been stated
109. 6:27preceding verse seven, which is why you got a little bit of homework or read the entirety of the
110. 6:31epistle. An epistle is a letter. Big chunk readings. I encourage reading in the epistles in one setting,
111. 6:37if possible. Well, not if possible. I know it's possible. We should read in one setting.
112. 6:41But verse seven, therefore, do not become partners with them.
113. 6:46For at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord.
114. 6:52Walk as children of light.
115. 6:55For the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true.
116. 7:00Read that again.
117. 7:01For the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true.
118. 7:07Proving what is acceptable or discerning what is acceptable
119. 7:11and what is pleasing to the Lord.
120. 7:13Verse 11, take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness,
121. 7:20but instead expose them.
122. 7:23Take no part.
123. 7:24The Lord is helping us to understand and to see in scripture
124. 7:27that there is such a thing as a wicked franchise.
125. 7:33Dare I say an evil conspiracy.
126. 7:36Now, in our popular conversation,
127. 7:38and term conspiracy is kind of taking on almost a mythological notion.
128. 7:43But I want to remind you in criminal law terms,
129. 7:45a conspiracy is simply an agreement,
130. 7:47a meaning of the minds between two or more persons to execute a wicked strategy,
131. 7:52to execute a plan.
132. 7:53I give the example to the bank robbery, right?
133. 7:55Bank robbers conspire together.
134. 7:58They plan together to rob the bank. All right.
135. 8:01One of them takes an act action and furtherance of the conspiracy.
136. 8:05We're going to rob the bank.
137. 8:05We're going to use this, this nondescript white van.
138. 8:08to get away vehicle. All of a sudden, next you know somebody has a white van. The police
139. 8:13come in right there, hey, you got you guys conspiracy. What have they done? They've conspired
140. 8:17to rob the bank. That is a wicked franchise, a wicked enterprise. Our legal system recognizes
141. 8:25that that is something that you could be held criminally responsible for. Did they rob the
142. 8:30bank? No, it ain't robbed the bank yet. But they certainly, certainly plan to. It's a
143. 8:33a wicked franchise.
144. 8:36And our nation, I'm gonna say this very plainly,
145. 8:40and I often say it when it comes to
146. 8:42the government and the vaccination system
147. 8:44that we call the education system,
148. 8:45we would say, well, hey, if you know,
149. 8:47the school system has failed, and I always urge a caution
150. 8:50and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
151. 8:51before you could say something has failed,
152. 8:53you would have to be aware of what was the intended
153. 8:56purpose from the beginning.
154. 8:59To which I've said, isn't that the school system has failed?
155. 9:02actuality is operating as it's been designed to operate.
156. 9:06And I know that's very sobering for people,
157. 9:09sometimes jolting for people.
158. 9:11And I understand why, because there are many good people
159. 9:14who had good intentions.
160. 9:15There are lots of godly people who've become teachers
161. 9:18and administration and other things, and they didn't do that
162. 9:21because they wanted to participate in a wicked franchise.
163. 9:24But when many of them were unaware of,
164. 9:26is that there has been a system constructed
165. 9:29for the express purposes of truncating and contracting the impact of the Christian witness in the system,
166. 9:35which is why. When I talk to many of these godly, godly administrators and teachers, I say,
167. 9:40can you boldly and forthrightly bring God's word into your classroom and declare and read out loud
168. 9:45what the Lord has said and teach your children? What the scriptures I said was to say, of course not.
169. 9:50Why can't you get it? It's illegal. I say, yeah, because my friend and brother,
170. 9:57Israel Wayne explained this to me and I've told him I'm going to share it because the reality is the system is like a train that's heading south.
171. 10:04If the train is heading south, though you have people on the train running as fever feverishly as they can to go north.
172. 10:11What do you think the people on the train will inevitably end up?
173. 10:14They're going to end up heading south and that is the system that we have.
174. 10:18I've explained in the Carson versus making Supreme Court case where Justice Steven Breyer when he was still on the bench, he said the choir part out loud and it's on page 10 of his descent.
175. 10:28He said, the reason why we need to keep the Christian influence out of any arrangement where
176. 10:36taxpayers' money is going to support Christian education is because we want to create, we want
177. 10:42to make sure that what we fund with taxpayer dollars is only, and this is his quote, quote,
178. 10:48the most vital civic institution for the transmission of the values upon which this society rests.
179. 10:56Now for generations American citizens have been told, well no of course the education system is for reading writing under arithmetic.
180. 11:03We got the Supreme Court just as saying it's about values transmission.
181. 11:08My simple question is what kind of values do you think will be transmitted in a system to where the knowledge of God has been excluded?
182. 11:15What kind of values do you think you would be transmitting?
183. 11:18The kind of values that we're seeing transmitted.
184. 11:21And the scripture says that the believer is to have nothing to do with the unfruitful works
185. 11:27of darkness.
186. 11:30How would you respond if I were able to show you that the godlessness that is gripped the
187. 11:36United States of America?
188. 11:37You know, a lot of people want to talk about child trafficking, things of that nature, you
189. 11:42know, drug trafficking, things of that nature.
190. 11:44I often say ask, why is it that there's such a demand for these things in our country?
191. 11:49Why is it that there's such a voracious appetite for pornography in the United States of America?
192. 11:55Why is it that the pedophiles have such a prevalent presence in the United States of America?
193. 11:59Why is it that the Super Bowl is known in law enforcement circles?
194. 12:02I know this for a fact because I was a prosecutor when the Super Bowl came to Houston, Texas,
195. 12:06and I was a prosecutor in the Harris County District Attorney's at that time, Harris
196. 12:10County District Attorney's office at that time.
197. 12:12And it was a known fact that the Super Bowl brings sex traffickers from all over the world.
198. 12:17Why do we know those things?
199. 12:18And we just shrug our shoulders.
200. 12:21Now as I'm talking to you, the state of Colorado is considering legislation to legalize pornography.
201. 12:27I mean, I'm not gonna be prostitution.
202. 12:29I'm talking about it.
203. 12:30I'm in.
204. 12:31The legalized prostitution right now, calling it, it's sex work.
205. 12:36What has happened to us guys?
206. 12:38We haven't taken God's instructions in his commands as commands.
207. 12:43The Bible says have nothing to do with the unfruitful works of darkness.
208. 12:47I would submit to you that the intentional infiltration of the American populace to infect
209. 12:53the hearts and minds of our youngest citizens and to turn them into a normalization of godlessness.
210. 13:02To a godlessness is the default.
211. 13:04I would say that's an unfruitful work of darkness, which the Lord commands that we are to have
212. 13:09nothing to do with.
213. 13:13I would never try to intrude upon a province of anybody's home to dictate to you what you
214. 13:17You should do, but I'm also going to tell you the truth.
215. 13:20I'm also going to communicate the truth to you.
216. 13:24The Lord says to his people,
217. 13:26we are not to become partners with the proponents
218. 13:31of wicked strategy, rather we should expose
219. 13:37that wicked strategy.
220. 13:40Proving what is acceptable and what is pleasing to the Lord.
221. 13:46I was into you and I know man,
222. 13:48and I know that the many parents listening to me,
223. 13:51They've listened to me for years,
224. 13:52and sometimes I've got the notes,
225. 13:55the messages from people say how convict they are.
226. 13:59Guys, what could be more necessary
227. 14:03than living full out for the glory of God
228. 14:06to the benefit of our own children?
229. 14:12Is there not a cause?
230. 14:16Why is it that in our society,
231. 14:17we accept rebellion in teenage years,
232. 14:20but the scripture I never see,
233. 14:24that I will have nothing to do with unfurful works
234. 14:25or darkness unless your child is between the ages
235. 14:2713 and 17 years old.
236. 14:30But we accepted as normal because it's a popular occurrence.
237. 14:34But why should we accept something as normal
238. 14:36because it's a popular occurrence
239. 14:38when the people of God are called to be a cure?
240. 14:41Daniel and his friends, it was said of them
241. 14:43that they understood knowledge.
242. 14:46They were replete with wisdom.
243. 14:49And the Bible says that they were you led.
244. 14:50They were children when they arrived in Babylon,
245. 14:52yet they were children replete with wisdom.
246. 14:55We have to have a renewed expectation
247. 14:57renewed investment in commitment.
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249. 16:02president, founder of Liberty Sentinel, speaking of none other than Alex Newman,
250. 16:08who's done just tremendous work, one of, if not the in my opinion, foremost I would
251. 16:14say apologists for God's view and God's vision for discipleship, starting with our
252. 16:21own children. It's been a blessing to me personally, it's been a blessing to the
253. 16:25body of Christ, and it's been a beacon light into the morass of darkness that is
254. 16:31Unfortunately, ubiquitous in our society. Alex, thank you for coming back on the Hamilton corner coming back to the Hamilton corner
255. 16:37It's a great honor to be here. Thank you so much. Oh, man
256. 16:40The pleasure certainly is mine and I'm excited to have you back because you have now co-authored a new book
257. 16:47With Robert Bortons who is the CEO of classical conversations for those who are not familiar with classical conversations
258. 16:52It is a classical educational curriculum homeschool curriculum
259. 16:57that is a phenomenal curriculum that allows you to build community as you endeavor to really
260. 17:04obey what the scripture says in Rea and our children in the Nurchin administration with
261. 17:06the Lord of which the cultivation of the mind is central.
262. 17:11And in this book, Alex, that you co-authored with Robert, the title is Woke and Webinized,
263. 17:17how Karl Marx won the battle for American education and how we can win it back.
264. 17:22Alex, the title and subtitle is quite provocative.
265. 17:26How did Karl Marx win the battle for American education?
266. 17:31Well, that's what we spend a lot of the book exploring,
267. 17:33is what education looked like prior to the government takeover,
268. 17:37how that takeover happened, who the people involved were,
269. 17:40and where it's all heading.
270. 17:42And Karl Marx, one of the things he's best known for
271. 17:45is, of course, the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital.
272. 17:48And if you read it, the central element
273. 17:50of how they were going to maintain power over the long term
274. 17:53was having the government educate the children.
275. 17:56That's actually one of the 10 planks that all children
276. 17:58need to be educated in public schools,
277. 18:01financed by the taxpayer.
278. 18:02And so Karl Marx really has won this battle,
279. 18:05something like 90%, 85%, depending on what part
280. 18:08of the country you're in of American children
281. 18:10are now educated almost exclusively by the government.
282. 18:13They might, if they have a very active family,
283. 18:15they might have dinner together,
284. 18:17but the vast majority of what's called education today
285. 18:20is coming from the government.
286. 18:21And the principles, the worldview that these children are being bombarded with is basically
287. 18:28the Marxist worldview in terms of understanding how the world works, in terms of moral principles.
288. 18:36It is Marxist in the truest sense of the term.
289. 18:39Now we actually start the book in chapter one with Robert Owen, who was kind of a Marxist,
290. 18:43but before Marx came on the scene.
291. 18:45This is a man who wanted to abolish private property, a man who wanted to abolish family
292. 18:49and marriage, and a man who took aim at the church. A man who, by the way, admitted before
293. 18:53he died that he was getting his ideas from communications. He was having with spirits
294. 18:57through Ouija boards. So the problem actually goes back before Karl Marx. But we spend a lot
295. 19:02of time in the book showing how this process happened. We actually have a whole chapter
296. 19:06on the Soviet operations targeting the American educational system. So it's very clear that
297. 19:11Karl Marx has won for now, but it's not inevitable that he succeeds over the long term.
298. 19:16Mmm, and that is provocative. Those who listen to this show and watch this show, they know I've pointed out
299. 19:23that one of the fundamental mechanisms of
300. 19:27Marx's vision and you were right to point out I've shared with this audience that Marx is not the author of kind of
301. 19:32Socialistic thought his contribution was utilization of violence
302. 19:36As as a means of accomplishing his views, but what you point out rightly this to the sustained
303. 19:41the capacity to sustain that type of program,
304. 19:45he clearly envisioned that it will be done.
305. 19:48Surprise by frankly indoctrinating children
306. 19:52to embrace something that is foreign to them,
307. 19:55that would be foreign to them.
308. 19:57One of the things that I enjoy in your writings generally,
309. 20:02but particular to this book that I'm looking forward to
310. 20:05is that you explain that what you're talking about
311. 20:08is documented, not speculative.
312. 20:09You're not saying that you're not just offering your opinion
313. 20:13or opining about something just because you have these ideas.
314. 20:16Then you go back and you lay out in the book
315. 20:19the specific references.
316. 20:21Would you just explain for the audience here
317. 20:23what you mean when you say that your posture in this book
318. 20:26is documented not speculative?
319. 20:29Yes, what we did in the book was we wanted to source
320. 20:31anything that's not common knowledge
321. 20:32we wanted to have a good source for.
322. 20:34And so if you go to the back,
323. 20:35you'll find this huge list of references
324. 20:38where people can actually go read the primary source documents.
325. 20:40In almost every case when we're making some sort of explosive claim where people would say like well that can't really be
326. 20:45We actually go back to the primary source documents the speeches the letters the books the essays the publications the textbooks of
327. 20:53The people that we are exposing and not just Karl Marx of course
328. 20:57This goes back to Robert Owen goes back to John Dewey
329. 21:00You know that was one of the really fascinating things about this whole journey is
330. 21:04You don't have to speculate the evidence is all there. It's overwhelming John Dewey wrote dozens
331. 21:10of books outlining his ideas. He was very much a Marxist in the sense that he wanted a collectivist
332. 21:15society, he wanted to get rid of private property, he rejected even the idea that there is a god,
333. 21:22an idea that there is a transcendent moral system, and he wasn't afraid to say it. He went to the
334. 21:27Soviet Union and wrote all these essays about how wonderful the Soviet system was and how great
335. 21:31they were at instilling what he called a collectivistic mentality in the children. Now he did disagree
336. 21:36with Marx on the strategy of violence, he didn't think that armed revolution was the
337. 21:40way to overthrow the system.
338. 21:42But he did share with Marx the idea that if we could indoctrinate the next generation,
339. 21:46we could maintain power and really fundamentally transform society and create this collectivist
340. 21:51utopia.
341. 21:52So the evidence is overwhelming.
342. 21:54We would actually encourage people to go into the list of sources and read these primary
343. 21:59source documents yourself.
344. 22:01And we don't have time or space in the book to explore all of the crazy things that these
345. 22:05people were saying and doing, but if you go back into the sources, you'll see for yourself that this
346. 22:09is thoroughly incompatible with what the Scriptures teach. So it's not if I know this is true. So because
347. 22:18this is true, is it an overstatement for someone like myself who might have said on several occasions
348. 22:25right on this program behind his very microphone that American education was deliberately designed
349. 22:30to weaken faith, to weaken Christianity, to weaken family and family ties and ultimately
350. 22:38to weaken that natural God given a Mago day, given desire for liberty. Would that be an overstatement
351. 22:46for someone like me whose name I rhyme with Braver Ham Bambleton to say that this was an intentional
352. 22:54deliberate plan? It's not even close to an overstatement. It is a fact, it is documented,
353. 23:00it is indisputable. And that's why we started in chapter one with this fellow Robert Owen.
354. 23:04You know, Karl Marx is very well known. That's why we used him in the title. But the first guy in the
355. 23:08modern era to come up with the idea that the government ought to be in charge of the education
356. 23:11of our children was Robert Owen. And he was a very interesting guy. I think he actually probably
357. 23:18thought he was doing good things. But as the old cliche goes the road to hell, his pay with good
358. 23:22intentions. But this is a guy who claimed to be fighting against what he described as the great
359. 23:25Trinity of Evil. That Trinity, he said, was private property. You know, God said,
360. 23:30they'll shout not steal. So obviously we can't have that marriage and family and
361. 23:33what he called irrational systems of religion in particular Christianity. And
362. 23:38so he promoted this idea of a government school system. He wrote these essays, a
363. 23:42new view of society, the formation of human character. And those essays did not
364. 23:47get a lot of attention and they weren't very popular among the people who read
365. 23:50them here in the United States. People read their Bible. They said, what do you mean?
366. 23:53the government should educate my children. The government should have us to punish evil,
367. 23:56to stop murderers and thieves, and to protect the good, things like marriage. So this is
368. 24:00totally incompatible. But these essays, and Robert Owen explains in his autobiography,
369. 24:04we quote him, these essays were picked up by Baron Jacobi, the ambassador from Prussia.
370. 24:09He took him back to Frederick, the dictator of Prussia, and Frederick, Robert Owen, says,
371. 24:14so much approved of these ideas that the government should take over education, that he ordered
372. 24:18his interior minister to create the first ever system of education of the state by the
373. 24:22the state and for the state.
374. 24:23And then he went to other European monarchs and told them, hey, you should try out this
375. 24:27great system.
376. 24:28Now, that was eventually brought back into the United States by a guy called Horace Mann.
377. 24:32He publicly said he was getting in the system from Prussia.
378. 24:35He did acknowledge that the Prussians were using it for dictatorial purposes, but hey,
379. 24:39we in free America, we can use the system for good things.
380. 24:42But I want to go back to Robert Omen for a moment.
381. 24:44Because his ideas were not popular in the United States, because his silly commune in
382. 24:48Indiana failed after less than two years, he formed what a whistleblower, who was
383. 24:52or eventually described as a secret society.
384. 24:55And so we quote this whistleblower, his name was Orestus
385. 24:57Brownson.
386. 24:58He converted to Roman Catholicism and repented
387. 25:00of his involvement in this scheme.
388. 25:03He says, I knew of the secret society
389. 25:04because I was organizing the state of New York
390. 25:06for this operation.
391. 25:07And he said, on the surface, they had two goals.
392. 25:09They were trying to shift public opinion,
393. 25:11to support government involvement in education.
394. 25:13And also, they wanted to get men elected to legislatures
395. 25:16who would support having a government role
396. 25:19and eventually a government takeover of the education system.
397. 25:22But here's the kicker.
398. 25:23He said the great object,
399. 25:25this is a direct quote from Morris's
400. 25:26Brownson, the whistleblower.
401. 25:27The great object was to get rid of Christianity.
402. 25:31The guy who came up with the idea
403. 25:33that the government should educate our children.
404. 25:35His goal was to get rid of Christianity
405. 25:38because that he understood was in the way of this utopia
406. 25:41that he and his spirit friends were hoping to create.
407. 25:44And it's only downhill from there, right?
408. 25:46You look at Horace Mann,
409. 25:47he wanted to get the Bible out of the schools.
410. 25:49You look at John Dewey, he created a new religion,
411. 25:51what he called the humanist manifesto,
412. 25:53him and his buddies, where they specifically,
413. 25:55in the first tenet, say that religious humanists
414. 25:58regard the universe as self-existing,
415. 26:00as not created in every possible way,
416. 26:03every one of the key people that created this system,
417. 26:06specifically revealed that they wanted the Bible out,
418. 26:09that they wanted to turn children away
419. 26:11from their historic faith, from the principles
420. 26:15that are revealed in the scripture.
421. 26:16And again, that's an indisputable fact.
422. 26:18There's nothing that you can do to debate that.
423. 26:20You can say it was a good idea if you'd like, but you certainly cannot argue against the
424. 26:24fact that the school system was created in large parts, turn children against the Christian
425. 26:29faith.
426. 26:30I know for a lot of people hearing that right now, it's very jolting.
427. 26:37Like I mentioned earlier that you won't find in scripture any age specific escape clause
428. 26:47for children or baby or parents in the Lord for this is right.
429. 26:50In fact, you see the exact opposite.
430. 26:52When the Apostle Paul is right into the Romans,
431. 26:54he also says the same thing when he writes to Timothy's
432. 26:56and second Timothy's chapter three, Romans chapter one,
433. 26:58amongst what might be described as Hollywood sins,
434. 27:00sexual debauchery and morality, perversion, murderers,
435. 27:05liars, thieves and all these high level Hollywood sins,
436. 27:08right in the midst of all of those,
437. 27:09the Apostle Paul also says, disobedience to parents.
438. 27:13He includes disobedience to parents among the litany
439. 27:17of Hollywood sins and many people,
440. 27:20many people are listening to me right now,
441. 27:21you're experiencing or have experienced
442. 27:26what's called the rebellious teen years
443. 27:28and all of these different things.
444. 27:30And when I talk to parents, sometimes they have challenges
445. 27:35and say, I didn't teach them to be like this.
446. 27:37I don't know where they learned that from.
447. 27:38I don't know where they got that from.
448. 27:40And when I was younger, I would be more reluctant
449. 27:44to respond, but as I've gotten older,
450. 27:45I would have to be honest and say, you know, they got that from where you're sending them.
451. 27:49No, Jesus said the student when fully trained will be like his teacher, which should provoke
452. 27:56for the believer a deeper query was, who is it that I'm allowing to train my children?
453. 28:02When you factor that into what you're saying, it seems that this rebellion, this tension
454. 28:11in the family to divide the family to cause a reshaping and shifting of loyalties away
455. 28:17from home. I mean, you know, you have people like Charles Francis Potter and Howard Pierce,
456. 28:23you say every child when they come to school, they show up sick. They show up sick because
457. 28:29they come to school with certain allegiances like to their parents. This is what he said
458. 28:33to their parents and to this nation as a separate sovereign entity. And it's the job of the educator
459. 28:38to make all of these sick children well. Most parents and most people don't know that you
460. 28:43You have educators who were saying these things, but it seems that you're pointing out through
461. 28:48Woken Weaponized that not only were people saying them, you documented for the reader.
462. 28:53Yeah.
463. 28:54And that's what's so astounding here is that the evidence is there.
464. 28:58It's always been there.
465. 29:00People used to know this.
466. 29:01You know, when the government first started demanding the first compulsory government school
467. 29:05act was passed in 1852 in Massachusetts, there are credible reports that the state actually
468. 29:09had to call out the militia to force parents to hand over their children.
469. 29:14were not enthusiastic about this idea, but over a period of generations, we've
470. 29:18completely forgotten all of that. And you know, to be clear, they didn't
471. 29:22immediately kick the Bible out of school. When Horace Mann was arguing that
472. 29:26parents had handed over their children to we who were involved in the sacred cause
473. 29:30of education and that these children were now hostages, when he was arguing to get
474. 29:34the Bible out of the school, he wasn't directly attacking it. He was saying, well,
475. 29:37we've got theological differences between Presbyterians and Baptists. So why don't we
476. 29:40just remove the Bible and we'll just let the Sunday school handle that on
477. 29:43Sunday. But so often these people were very clear about their agenda to get the Scriptures
478. 29:51out. And we were talking a little bit before we went on. Proverbs 9, 10, Proverbs 1, 7,
479. 29:56the Scriptures clearly teach that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Colossians
480. 30:01actually tells us in Colossians 2, 3, that all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are
481. 30:07hidden in Christ Jesus. In other words, you cannot have a legitimate educational system
482. 30:12that's not grounded in the Word of God, in the fear of the Lord. And yet these people
483. 30:16told us that their objective was to remove that from the education of our children. And
484. 30:20we see the fruit now. I mean the Bible tells you to look at things by their fruit. Look at
485. 30:24the fruit folks. Our families are falling apart. Our children are castrating themselves. They
486. 30:27don't know what bathroom to go into. 40% in high school are feeling persistent depression
487. 30:32and hopelessness. 10% tried to commit suicide in the last year. This is a catastrophe and
488. 30:38And it's a direct result of the seeds that were planted by people like Horace Mann, John
489. 30:43Dewey, Robert Owen, and of course Karl Marx.
490. 30:46That's an inescapable fact.
491. 30:48That's an inescapable fact.
492. 30:50We spent time in this segment.
493. 30:52We're getting close to wrapping this up.
494. 30:53We got about a minute or so in this segment, sharing the bad news.
495. 30:57When we come back from the break, I want to talk a bit about what can we do about this.
496. 31:01Are we helpless to do anything?
497. 31:03Is there anything that we can do to stop this?
498. 31:06I often reflect on Charles Spurgeon's description of discernment, because we often think about
499. 31:10discernment as the necessity of distinguishing right from wrong.
500. 31:14But Charles Spurgeon explained that discernment is not merely or not exclusively distinguishing
501. 31:18right from wrong, but is also distinguishing right from almost right.
502. 31:23That is something we need to understand.
503. 31:24The most effective lies always come with the modicum of truth.
504. 31:27As you pointed out, Horace Mann initially didn't attack the Bible specifically in his
505. 31:31efforts to get the Bible out of schools.
506. 31:33But he did want the Bible out of schools, make no bones about it, but he knew if he came
507. 31:38with immediate direct broadside against the scripture when he started, there's no way he
508. 31:42would have never got out of the gate, so to speak, to launch.
509. 31:45But what's happened over time, what's tolerated in one generation, becomes normalized in the
510. 31:50next.
511. 31:51Which is why, like as you and I are talking right now, you talk to any adult American citizen,
512. 31:55you tell them you do realize the federal income tax is not something that existed since America's
513. 31:59founding and many adults will look at you with the blank stare and be like, what?
514. 32:02No, no, no.
515. 32:03The federal income tax, the direct taxation on Americans' productivity in terms of income
516. 32:07generation, was a product of the regressive era and followed the 1913 Federal Reserve.
517. 32:12And most Americans don't know that because what was tolerated in previous generations becomes
518. 32:16normalized in the next.
519. 32:18What was tolerated in previous generations in America was a normalization of godlessness,
520. 32:22and now that has become normalized in our current context.
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528. 33:14Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner.
529. 33:16Abraham Hamilton III here with my guest Alex Newman,
530. 33:19co-author of the new book, Woken Weaponized,
531. 33:22which he's authored with Robert Borden, CEO of Classical
532. 33:25Conversations.
533. 33:26Alex, before we went to the break,
534. 33:27we were talking about really a lot of the bad news
535. 33:29and the intentional infection, really, of godlessness
536. 33:33in our country through the education system.
537. 33:36But what can we do?
538. 33:37Are we doomed to this system, or is there a way out?
539. 33:41their way forward for us.
540. 33:42Well, there's really good news, Dave, and thanks again for having me on the program.
541. 33:46The really good news is in all 50 states in this country, thanks to the efforts of Home
542. 33:50School Legal Defense Association, we serve on the board and other wonderful organizations,
543. 33:54we have the freedom as parents to remove our children from this system right now.
544. 33:58You do not need to put them on the school bus tomorrow, depending on your state law.
545. 34:02Obviously, you want to see what your state requires, but you can remove your children
546. 34:05right away and you do not have to subject them to this godless discipleship program anymore.
547. 34:11So on an individual level, on a family level, there's very good news.
548. 34:15We can protect our children from this immediately.
549. 34:18And I think as Christians, we have an obligation to do that.
550. 34:21One of the things that we spend a lot of time on in the book is what do we do on a societal level?
551. 34:26What do we do as a body politic?
552. 34:28And one of the big quote unquote solutions that's been offered is, well,
553. 34:32we'll just have the government give everybody money to homeschool or do Christian school or private school.
554. 34:37And so I want to start by saying, yeah, I'm pleased that the conversation is moving in this
555. 34:41direction. Right? 10 years ago, it was, how do we fix the schools? Now, the conversation seems to be
556. 34:46moving over toward how do we get the children out as quickly as possible. And I'm very pleased
557. 34:51with that. But if you look at a lot of the people who were, and we have a whole chapter on this,
558. 34:55the people who are promoting this idea that the government ought to be giving us all money,
559. 34:59basically universal government funding for education. I'm reminded of Ronald Reagan,
560. 35:04the scariest words in the English language from the government, and I'm here to help.
561. 35:08We've got to recognize that.
562. 35:10And so when you have George Soros and Bill Gates
563. 35:12and Michael Bloomberg, the former mayor of New York,
564. 35:16a lot of these very wealthy individuals pouring money
565. 35:20into this movement to have kind of the government take over
566. 35:23more and more education options,
567. 35:25we need to look at that very skeptically.
568. 35:28So we do offer some ideas on how we can move forward
569. 35:31as a society.
570. 35:31I think the long term is we need parents
571. 35:34to reclaim their biblical responsibility,
572. 35:37their biblical authority over the education and the training and the
573. 35:39discipleship of their children. And as far as policy is concerned, I think we
574. 35:44need to move more and more. And of course, we recognize this is going to have to be
575. 35:47gradual. We all know we're not going to wake up tomorrow and the state legislature
576. 35:50is going to disestablish the public school system. But the more we can move away
577. 35:54from government control, government funding, government oversight of education and put
578. 35:59that back in the realm of parents and maybe churches, the better off we will all
579. 36:03be as a society. So I personally think homeschooling is the gold standard. You
580. 36:06I look at Deuteronomy 6, I look at Deuteronomy 11, God commands his people to be impressing
581. 36:12his laws and his ways and what he has done for us on the hearts of their children when
582. 36:18they're waking up in the morning, when they're walking by the way, when they're sitting down,
583. 36:21when they're laying down to go to bed at night.
584. 36:23In other words, all the time.
585. 36:25So I think that's the gold standard for those who can do it.
586. 36:28And for those who can't, there's a lot of options out there for parents who are seeking
587. 36:33a God-centered, Bible-centric education.
588. 36:37And I would encourage people to look at that.
589. 36:39I'm kind of a solutions guy, so I do a lot as a volunteer on the side.
590. 36:42I serve on the Board of the Freedom Project Academy.
591. 36:44I serve as Executive Director of Public School Exit.
592. 36:46I'm a fellow at Classical Conversations, which is the program I have my own children in.
593. 36:50It's a great program.
594. 36:51But there's so many options, so many resources.
595. 36:54The key is just let's go back to the Scriptures.
596. 36:56That's where we're going to find the real answers.
597. 36:58Amen.
598. 36:59Where can people get woken weaponized and also how can our folks keep up with you and all the
599. 37:05vital work that you're doing?
600. 37:06Well, thank you so much, Abe.
601. 37:08The easiest way, unfortunately, is just Amazon.
602. 37:10You can get it next day, delivery, free shipping.
603. 37:13I don't know how they do all that.
604. 37:15But yeah, Amazon is the easy place.
605. 37:16Bookstores are going to have it.
606. 37:18If you want to sign copy, you can get it at my website, liberty-sentinel.org.
607. 37:22People can sign up for the free newsletter there as well if they like.
608. 37:25And I would encourage people, even if you don't get the book, just familiarize yourself.
609. 37:29with this information, share it with the folks at your church, with the elders, with the pastor.
610. 37:34This is a crisis. It's an existential crisis. We're losing the majority of children from Christian
611. 37:39homes to the world, to the culture, to the lies that are being pumped into their minds,
612. 37:43and it's just so critical. So I would urge folks to please pray about this, please
613. 37:48protect your own children. And then once you've got that under control, then let's work on
614. 37:52getting the rest of the children out of the burning building as quick as we can.
615. 37:55And this is the last question I'll ask you because I know you have to run.
616. 38:00I have said and I'll continue to say that the government education system is the primary
617. 38:05mechanism that Satan has used unfortunately to normalize Godlessness in our country.
618. 38:10I asked the overstatement question of you before.
619. 38:12Do you think this assertion is an overstatement?
620. 38:16There's not even a close second, Abe.
621. 38:18Not even a close second.
622. 38:19People talk about the media, the perverted entertainment, the Disney, but not even a close
623. 38:23second.
624. 38:24be susceptible to the kind of filth and perversion and wickedness that's coming through our TVs and
625. 38:29our smartphones. If they hadn't been groomed and prepared in advance by 12 years of discipleship
626. 38:35in this godless borderline pagan system. So that's where we really need to focus our energies. And
627. 38:41you know, God is clear about this. So you read Psalm 78, if you want to see what happens when
628. 38:45parents and fathers in particular aren't very deliberate and intentional about sharing the truth
629. 38:51about God and his word with the next generation. It always ends in catastrophe. It's ending in
630. 38:56catastrophe here and we have to reverse course. Alex Newman, ladies and gentlemen, Alex, thank
631. 39:01you so much. I don't want to go one minute beyond the time you so graciously have allowed us
632. 39:06for today's program, man. Go forward and continue lighting up the darkness. I'm so grateful. God
633. 39:12is doing to you. All right, me. Talk to you next time because you definitely got to come back.
634. 39:17that.
635. 39:18Thank you.
636. 39:19God bless you, sir.
637. 39:20God bless, brother.
638. 39:22All right.
639. 39:23Man, listen, I don't want anybody to think that I and because I know Alex personally that
640. 39:30he or we weighed into this territory casually or lightly.
641. 39:34I also don't want anybody to think who may be listening that if you're a principal or
642. 39:39a teacher or that we're saying that you are evil because that is not what we're saying.
643. 39:44That is not at all what we're saying.
644. 39:45I know for a fact many of you have chosen which you've chosen in terms of your profession of
645. 39:49pursuits because you love God and you love people.
646. 39:54I know that.
647. 39:57But also because I love you enough to tell you the truth, I have to be honest and convey
648. 40:02that you have simply invested yourself in a system that is dead set against what you truly
649. 40:08believe.
650. 40:12And the evidence is undeniable, both the evidence in terms of the architecture and the design
651. 40:20of the modern government education system with the movement towards compulsory attendance laws.
652. 40:26Those are the laws that create the truancy regimes.
653. 40:29If you do a little bit of research into how those things develop the compulsory attendance
654. 40:33laws, who were the prime movers in those laws being embraced, what were their goals and objectives?
655. 40:42You will see what we're saying.
656. 40:43Get Alex's book.
657. 40:47This one, Woke and Weaponized.
658. 40:49in a previous book that Alex wrote,
659. 40:50it's called indoctrinating our children to death.
660. 40:54And one of the things I love is that Alex is a journalist.
661. 40:56So, you know, he brings receipts.
662. 41:01What is one of the ways that we met,
663. 41:03we were kind of working in the same field
664. 41:05and kind of ended up crossing paths in that regard.
665. 41:10Well, we're not saying anybody's evil.
666. 41:12We're not saying any parents, you know.
667. 41:14I have friends, personal close friends,
668. 41:18who, you know, they hadn't thought about it like this.
669. 41:20In fact, they thought the opposite,
670. 41:22that they want to send their children into the schools
671. 41:24as missionaries, you know?
672. 41:26And through some experiences they had
673. 41:30and through conversations and conversations we had,
674. 41:33we talked about, even when we have foreign missions,
675. 41:37many of you are listening to me,
676. 41:38your churches have foreign missions ministries.
677. 41:41Do any foreign missionaries show up on the mission field
678. 41:45without being trained for the mission field?
679. 41:47Are there any people who are foreign missionaries
680. 41:51who are coincidental missionaries?
681. 41:54And then here's another thing to the children believe that they are missionaries.
682. 42:03And there have been lots of people who've had that perspective that we're going to
683. 42:07send out children as missionaries.
684. 42:09And I just simply ask very, very plainly, what have the results been?
685. 42:13What is the most common experience in our nation?
686. 42:16Is it most common for the young people who have been subjugated by this Godless system?
687. 42:24And I call it a Godless system because the system intentionally excludes the
688. 42:29knowledge of God from its existence.
689. 42:32If a teacher is found to be opening the Bible
690. 42:34and instructing children in the classroom from God's word,
691. 42:37that teacher would be fired.
692. 42:41I just shared with you early this week,
693. 42:42they had a teacher in Indiana
694. 42:46who was forced to resign, not because he opened the Bible,
695. 42:50but simply because he refused to call a child
696. 42:53by their preferred pronoun.
697. 42:56And because he did not want to affirm delusion,
698. 42:57he agreed to call the child by the child's last name,
699. 43:01it was forced out.
700. 43:05I believe everybody listening to me in your heart of hearts,
701. 43:07you know what I'm saying is true.
702. 43:09So then the question is what are we gonna do about it?
703. 43:11The Lord commands us to have nothing to do
704. 43:13with the unfruitful works of darkness.
705. 43:17Many people have bought the light.
706. 43:18Well, what they're not learning theology at school,
707. 43:21they're just learning neutral education.
708. 43:23Guys, I'll just wanna tell you play
709. 43:24because there's no such thing as neutral.
710. 43:27There's no such thing as neutral.
711. 43:31Everything is communicating from an advantage point.
712. 43:33Everything is communicating from a perspective.
713. 43:36Everything.
714. 43:39You know, I've said, and when I speak in different places, I use this example often that when
715. 43:44we endeavor to teach mathematics, we also endeavor to communicate the worldview considerations
716. 43:49that surround the discipline of mathematics.
717. 43:51My children will tell you that when we study mathematics, that we are peering into an aspect
718. 43:56of the mind of God, that if God was not consistent in his character as creator and sustainer
719. 44:05of all life, we would not be able to do certain academic disciplines like mathematics or physics
720. 44:10science. Why is that children? Because God has created our universe as a fixed universe.
721. 44:19We live in a world with fixed principles. The fixed nature of our world allows us to have
722. 44:26the context to conduct scientific experimentation. What are the fundamental components of scientific
723. 44:33experimentation that the stimuli must be measurable, observable and repeatable. If everything in
724. 44:40in our society, everything in our environment, on our planet, was randomized.
725. 44:46There would be no capacity to measure or to observe, let alone to repeat.
726. 44:55Math facts, what is 2 plus 2? 2 plus 2 equals 4.
727. 44:59World view considerations will 2 plus 2 ever equal anything but 4.
728. 45:04No daddy, 2 plus 2 equals 4 and will always equal 4 because as mathematics is an opportunity
729. 45:10to appear into the mind of God, mathematics reflects our Creator in that He is the same yesterday,
730. 45:17today, and forevermore. Therefore, 2 plus 2 will all is for and will always be for the unchanging
731. 45:24nature of the math fact of 2 plus 2 reflects the unchanging nature of the God we serve.
732. 45:36I've said on this program that we have people who know about Sir Isaac Newton and his contributions
733. 45:44to physics and the laws of motion.
734. 45:47When most of us are, we are denied access to.
735. 45:53At the exact same time people discuss Isaac Newton, why would it be so hard to also convey
736. 45:58the fact of what led to Isaac Newton to conduct his experimentation?
737. 46:03I've said on this show, I've said in places all around this country, Sir Isaac Newton could
738. 46:07be rightly described as a theologian who did science on the side, who did mathematics on
739. 46:11the side, who did physics on the side.
740. 46:14Newton wrote two to three times more about scripture
741. 46:17who write entire commentaries on the Bible.
742. 46:21Wrote two to three times about scripture
743. 46:22than he ever did about experimentation.
744. 46:25And in his commentaries, he would explain
745. 46:28that the revelations from scriptures
746. 46:31would let him to conduct his experimentation.
747. 46:33Why don't you think most children in America
748. 46:36are talked about Isaac Newton?
749. 46:38Why are children in America denied
750. 46:40knowing the worldview of Galileo and Lewis Pasteur
751. 46:49and Edmund Boyle, how we learned the boiling point for liquid.
752. 46:54Why don't we learn these things?
753. 46:58One of my favorite scientists, George Washington Carver,
754. 47:00why don't we know his worldview?
755. 47:02Because there's a reality that there are people
756. 47:05who tell lies by co-mission, those are the affirmative,
757. 47:09communications of false information,
758. 47:11and there are people who lie by omission,
759. 47:13concealing, salient data and information from your awareness
760. 47:18so as to shape your view of the data.
761. 47:23Because there are insidious factors in our society
762. 47:26who want to make the overt representation
763. 47:29that people who believe in Jesus Christ,
764. 47:32they are not intelligent.
765. 47:36But if our system of instruction led in the communication
766. 47:40that many of the people who've made some of the most
767. 47:43enduring contributions to mankind's capacity to flourish
768. 47:48have been people who are intellectual giants
769. 47:51because of their faith.
770. 47:55You wouldn't be able to run around talking about people
771. 47:57of faith are intellectually inferior.
772. 48:02Because of everything you rely on,
773. 48:03like the laws of motion that came to you
774. 48:05from a person of biblical instruction.
775. 48:14Now that we know that we must do better,
776. 48:19God commands us to have nothing to do
777. 48:21with the unfruitful works of darkness.
778. 48:26We don't have to submit ourselves to this ungodly indoctrination system.
779. 48:30We don't have to.
780. 48:31There's another course that we can chart.
781. 48:40The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American
782. 48:44Family Association or American Family Radio.