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18. 0:57to it. And we've already reported this issue on the news. This last gentleman,
19. 1:02Pretti, who got shot and killed at this, uh, at one of these protests. And I guess I
20. 1:09don't didn't hear him say it. He may have said it. If he did, he misspoke. The
21. 1:13cash Patel said you don't have a right to carry a firearm to a protest. Well, I beg
22. 1:18to differ. Um, I agree with Second Amendment advocates, you can carry your
23. 1:22firearm in my view. You can carry it pretty much anywhere you want other than
24. 1:26I want to private property where people don't want you to bring it.
25. 1:29I think that's a different matter.
26. 1:30Of course, you have a right that people have a right to on their private property
27. 1:35to say, no, I don't want you coming on my property with the fire on which case
28. 1:38you just move on.
29. 1:40I have a problem with all of these rules though in public property is I've
30. 1:44gone to events, get up to the door and it says no firearms allowed.
31. 1:51I've got to walk all the way back to my car because I'm almost always
32. 1:56I've got to walk all the way back to my car, lock my firearm away, and then walk all the
33. 2:02way back to get in.
34. 2:03And I'm thinking, you know, the criminal who shows up or sneaks in or has been lurking somewhere
35. 2:11could care less about their little rules.
36. 2:14But this is what these paternalistic, super-cilius know-it-alls think that, you know, that somehow
37. 2:24if law-abiding citizens are not armed is going to be much, much better.
38. 2:27And actually it's going to be much, much more dangerous.
39. 2:30And we've seen that over and over and over again when there's nobody to,
40. 2:34when there's no good guy with a gun to respond to a bad guy with a gun,
41. 2:39things are far worse.
42. 2:41Now, having said that, having said that, I will say this,
43. 2:47if you're going to go to a rally and you are prepared to get into physical
44. 2:52confrontations with law enforcement officers,
45. 2:55I would recommend that you bring your leave your firearm at home.
46. 2:59If that is your intention, if you know that that's the likelihood,
47. 3:03I would suggest that you leave your firearm at home.
48. 3:06Because if you get into a confrontation with law enforcement and they know you have a firearm,
49. 3:10what do you think they're going to say to you?
50. 3:12They're going to want to disarm you.
51. 3:14Because if you pose any kind of physical threat to them and you've got a firearm,
52. 3:17they're going to say you have to give that up, at least for the time being.
53. 3:21And if you don't want to be in that position, either go and participate peacefully and stay
54. 3:29out of physical confrontations and belligerent confrontations with law enforcement or leave
55. 3:34your firearm at home.
56. 3:36I mean, that's the prudent thing to do.
57. 3:39Because again, once you get into a physical confrontation with somebody, as I've explained
58. 3:42before, it doesn't take but a split second for a person to pull the firearm and shoot you.
59. 3:47And in close quarters, they don't have to take time to aim, get it out and pull the trigger,
60. 3:52And the person there having the confrontation with could be gone in a split second.
61. 3:58And of course, no law enforcement officer should be forced to have to deal with that.
62. 4:03So I think this is going to go away, frankly.
63. 4:07I think it's going to go away because I think as the facts come out, it will become clear
64. 4:12the whole issue of whether he had a right to carry.
65. 4:14He was a licensed firearm carrier, so he had a right to carry.
66. 4:17But the issue is, was it prudent for him to allow himself to get into a confrontation
67. 4:21with police officers, with law enforcement officers,
68. 4:24immigration officers, while he was carrying a firearm.
69. 4:28Because I'm sure that given the tenor of these protests,
70. 4:35I'm sure they felt threatened and probably,
71. 4:38and again, now I'm speculating,
72. 4:40I don't know exactly how this went down,
73. 4:42but my guess is they spotted the firearm,
74. 4:45saw the way he was behaving and tried to disarm him,
75. 4:49probably initially asked for the firearm,
76. 4:51and he wouldn't give it up.
77. 4:53And that's the point at which they resorted
78. 4:55to trying to disarm him and gunplay ensued,
79. 4:59at least on the immigration officer's part.
80. 5:03So we'll see.
81. 5:04You know, I always say with these things,
82. 5:05let's wait for the facts.
83. 5:07All I can do right now is give you speculation,
84. 5:10but let's wait for the facts and see how this unfolds.
85. 5:12But yeah, as far as the right to carry a firearm
86. 5:15to a protest, we have a perfect right to do that.
87. 5:18Because we have a second amendment right
88. 5:20to keep and bear arms.
89. 5:21And it really doesn't matter where you're going
90. 5:23unless you're entering into private property.
91. 5:24By the way, I have a real problem with this post office rule.
92. 5:27You know, you're not allowed to go on post office property
93. 5:30with the firearm because of what some nutcases have done,
94. 5:34you know, going postal as they say.
95. 5:36So they restrict the law abiding citizens.
96. 5:38So if you're there and somebody goes postal
97. 5:40because you can't bring your firearm in there,
98. 5:43you are completely at the postal nutcases mercy.
99. 5:49But somehow they think that, you know, that's, and they don't, there's no, they don't search you,
100. 5:55they don't go through any metal detector. I mean, I think the bad guy cares about a sign saying,
101. 6:01no firearms allowed it. I will never understand, there is no logic, forget about understanding,
102. 6:07you don't have to understand it because there is no logic to it. The logic is they want to control
103. 6:11the American people, they want to disarm us. That's the logic. And they'll use any excuse they can
104. 6:17to try to advance that cause.
105. 6:20Okay, so look, later on the program,
106. 6:23feel free to comment on that,
107. 6:25give me your thoughts,
108. 6:26you law enforcement officers out there,
109. 6:29if you are available to call me
110. 6:31and give me, because I'd certainly be curious
111. 6:32about your perspective on that.
112. 6:36This gets into a whole bunch of stuff, you know.
113. 6:39I've heard some people say that when they stop
114. 6:41in a traffic situation, you know,
115. 6:44for an alleged violation, they didn't stop for stop sign,
116. 6:49and maybe they were speeding or whatever,
117. 6:51and they're carrying, they tell the officer,
118. 6:53they were carrying, or that they are carrying.
119. 6:57Do you all do that?
120. 6:59Because I have to say I don't.
121. 7:01Because my attitude is why complicate the interaction?
122. 7:05Now if the officer said to me for whatever reason,
123. 7:08said to me, sir, would you mind stepping out of the vehicle?
124. 7:10Then I would tell him,
125. 7:13I wouldn't want him to be surprised by it, but then I would tell him.
126. 7:16But as long as he license a registration, give him a license registration, he goes back, he
127. 7:20checks me out, he comes back, he gives me a warning, he gives me a ticket, whatever he's
128. 7:23going to do, and I go on about my business.
129. 7:26I don't see that it's relevant at all.
130. 7:28But you know, and I'm not legally required to, but yeah, I think if an officer asks me
131. 7:34to get out for whatever reason, I've never had that happen, but if he asks me to get out
132. 7:38of the vehicle, I think at that point I would tell him so that he wouldn't be caught by
133. 7:42surprise and then I'd follow his instructions as to how he wanted me to handle that.
134. 7:46So that way he doesn't have to feel threatened at all.
135. 7:49If he said, well, sir, would you mind taking that out and emptying your take out your magazine
136. 7:58and emptying whatever you have in the chamber?
137. 8:04I'd appreciate that and then hand that over to me and I'll hold on to it until we're done.
138. 8:10I don't know whether an officer would say that or not.
139. 8:12But if he did, I would comply.
140. 8:15I wouldn't say, no, I'm not doing that.
141. 8:16You don't have a right now.
142. 8:17I would not get into that.
143. 8:19If I thought that the officer had violated
144. 8:21my constitutional rights, I would simply obey his instruction.
145. 8:26And then later on, go back and say, hey,
146. 8:28I think I believe that this officer violated my rights
147. 8:30in this case.
148. 8:32And I do that in the calm of a police station,
149. 8:35file some kind of report.
150. 8:37I would not get into a battle with a law enforcement officer on the road arguing with him about
151. 8:43whether he had a right to have me take my firearm off.
152. 8:48I think that's the way to get killed because then he's wondering, well, what is this guy's
153. 8:53mindset?
154. 8:54Is he prepared to kill me to stop me from taking his firearm?
155. 8:59So you know, these are not issues.
156. 9:01And my view really so much of rights like this guy went who went to the protest.
157. 9:05These are issues of common sense and judgment.
158. 9:09And also, you know, respect for law enforcement.
159. 9:11I mean, show some respect for the authority of those people carrying that badge and in uniform
160. 9:16and know that, look, they're not perfect people either.
161. 9:19But if you want to, you think maybe they've made a mistake, address that in the calm of
162. 9:27a later moment rather than getting into an argument and certainly rather than getting
163. 9:33into a push and shove when you're carrying a firearm.
164. 9:37Because again, if that's what this guy did, that's on him.
165. 9:42Bad, bad, bad judgment.
166. 9:45But that's on him.
167. 9:46Okay, just get that on the table and hear what your comments are.
168. 9:53I'll come back to, I'll open it up for comments about this issue later in the program.
169. 9:59Let me get into this though.
170. 10:01This situation in Minneapolis continues to be in the forefront of the news.
171. 10:07I wanted to raise something.
172. 10:09I don't think I've raised with you all as yet, but I want to raise it now.
173. 10:14Do you all remember or did you hear about Karen Bass, a mayor of Los Angeles, who raised the
174. 10:21issue of why Hispanics would work for ICE or Border Patrol, suggesting that their traders
175. 10:31to quote unquote, their people and that that would things would not go well for them.
176. 10:42You know, I am convinced of this, folks, and I don't think anybody has really talked
177. 10:46about this element of it.
178. 10:48I am convinced that the tremendous level of hostility
179. 10:53that we see, because I haven't heard anybody say
180. 10:56they don't have the right to do what they're doing.
181. 10:58I've heard people say this is not right.
182. 11:02I haven't heard them say they don't have the right.
183. 11:04I haven't heard them quote any statutory authority
184. 11:07for the fact that ICE can't go and detain,
185. 11:12arrest, apprehend, hold people for deportation,
186. 11:17for deportation, particularly those who already have
187. 11:19detainers on them, some of them have deportation orders and
188. 11:22detainers on them. I haven't heard anybody say no, they
189. 11:26can't do that. Do you have to just cut them loose? Although I
190. 11:29think that's what they that's what the Democrats really want.
191. 11:33That's what the left the left is really want. But here's another
192. 11:38element to this. You know, these people, these leftists are so
193. 11:43self obsessed that I and so so race obsessed, I guess I should
194. 11:48say that they I think they really have a particular antipathy for most of these
195. 11:54these immigration enforcement officers and these border patrol officers because
196. 12:01they are Hispanic. You know I've made this point over and over and over again I
197. 12:06think the American people by and large are over it. I guarantee I believe that
198. 12:12probably 95 percent of the American people may be higher than that could care
199. 12:17less. What your race is, what the call of your skin is, what your background is, they care about
200. 12:22what kind of human being you are. And if you are a decent, honorable human being, they are happy to
201. 12:30work with you, they are happy to interact with you. And if you are a fool, they are happy to get as far
202. 12:38away from you as they can. And if you happen to have darker skin and you are fooled and they get
203. 12:43far away from you, somebody calls them a racist for doing so, I think most American people say,
204. 12:46Yeah, okay, right. What else is do has nothing to do with that. It has simply has to do with the fact that this person is a fool
205. 12:55There are the words I could use not for words
206. 12:58But you know other words I could use but I'll stick with fool because that's the biblical word
207. 13:01This person's a fool and I'm gonna get as far away from it as I can
208. 13:05But I'm not with the left. Oh, no, no, no because by definition if you are not
209. 13:14an American of
210. 13:16European ancestry, or not as they would put it white, you are automatically a victim of racism,
211. 13:25and you ought to have sense enough to know that therefore you should always side with them
212. 13:31because they are your racial saviors. I think that there is a particular antipathy that they have
213. 13:38for these ICE agents precisely because they are overwhelmingly more than a majority
214. 13:44happen to be of Hispanic descent.
215. 13:48And Mayor Karen Bass said that very thing,
216. 13:51how could they work for ICE?
217. 13:53How could they work for the Border Patrol?
218. 13:56But here's my point in this.
219. 14:00See, the Democrat, the spirit of the Democrat Party
220. 14:05is still a slave spirit
221. 14:08because they really want to control people.
222. 14:10They desperately want to control people.
223. 14:14And race is one of the tools that they use
224. 14:16to try to control to manipulate people.
225. 14:18And when people violate their model of what that person should be,
226. 14:24and they happen to be a quote unquote person of color,
227. 14:28oh my goodness, they hate you.
228. 14:31Stand by back in a moment.
229. 15:01A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker.
230. 15:04The Gospel of Matthew chapter 28 starting in verse 18,
231. 15:08it tells us these words.
232. 15:09And Jesus came and spoke to them saying,
233. 15:11all authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth.
234. 15:15Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations,
235. 15:17baptizing them in the name of the Father,
236. 15:19and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
237. 15:22Teaching them to observe all things
238. 15:23that I've commanded you, and lo, I'm with you always,
239. 15:26even to the end of the age, amen.
240. 15:29That contains what we call the Great Commission.
241. 15:32God calls us to be a disciple and to make disciples.
242. 15:36And that's a command God lays before us each and every day.
243. 15:39Every day is a day for us to follow Jesus Christ
244. 15:42and to be involved in the work of helping and teaching
245. 15:44and encouraging others to follow Jesus Christ as well.
246. 15:48Ask someone how you can pray for them.
247. 15:50Encourage someone to read three chapters in the Bible every day.
248. 15:54Pray for God to help you to both be a faithful disciple
249. 15:57and to make disciples as well.
250. 16:05Shiting light into the darkness,
251. 16:08this is the Hamilton Quarter, an American family radio.
252. 16:13Yeah, I am convinced, folks.
253. 16:14This is E.W. Jackson, by the way,
254. 16:16in for Abraham, Hamilton III.
255. 16:18I am convinced that that's why we see the level of hostility we are seeing, because there is a feeling of betrayal.
256. 16:29You see, they really believe that they have the leftist, really believe that they have a right to dictate to the people they frame as quote unquote people of color.
257. 16:40By the way, if you all heard what I have,
258. 16:42if you heard me on this, I said,
259. 16:44which again is another stupid and misleading
260. 16:49and divisive phrase because I've never met a person
261. 16:54without color, have you?
262. 16:56Everybody I've ever met in my life has had color,
263. 17:01but you know, this is the little queacute phrase,
264. 17:04people of color.
265. 17:05You know, it's like, you know,
266. 17:07because what they really mean is people
267. 17:11of darker hue than the average European,
268. 17:15but you know a lot of Europeans have darker hue,
269. 17:17depending upon where they come from.
270. 17:19You know, the Southern in Southern Europe,
271. 17:21Southern Spain, Southern Italy,
272. 17:25people can be very, very tan,
273. 17:26but then that's not what they're talking about.
274. 17:29They're basically what they're really talking about
275. 17:31is all people of European ancestry versus everybody else.
276. 17:35That's really what they're getting at.
277. 17:38But this idea that if you, in fact, let me just tell you
278. 17:42what basically Karen Bass raised the question.
279. 17:44And she says, and I'm quoting now,
280. 17:47she says, these people are gonna have a hard time.
281. 17:51Let me get the quote.
282. 17:52She says, I think that these Border Patrol agents
283. 17:56are going to have a difficult time
284. 17:58when they are out in the field
285. 18:00and they see what actually happens in real life
286. 18:04separate from their training.
287. 18:07You know, I think she's getting at it.
288. 18:09I think she's getting at it.
289. 18:10When she get, they get out in the field
290. 18:12find out how their own people respond to them. They're going to get a real awakening because
291. 18:19she was doing a CNN interview and she was responding and she, you know, because they're arresting
292. 18:26their own blood, their own kind. But I love this, folks. I really, I really love this.
293. 18:35They found a Border Patrol agent by the name of Juan Peralta, and they asked him about how
294. 18:46he felt about arresting his own kind and arresting his own blood.
295. 18:53And he says, they didn't come in the right way, so they aren't my kind.
296. 18:59I love that because you know, you could just extrapolate that and say, if you don't come
297. 19:04the right way, you're not my kind. I mean, those are words to live by. You know, I just
298. 19:13think that's, see, that's the mindset that every American ought to have.
299. 19:20Ply me not with this nonsense about I need somebody who looks like me. Well, what? What
300. 19:28does that even mean? First of all, nobody really looks like me. For better or for worse,
301. 19:39Now, wherever you want to take it, nobody really looks like me.
302. 19:42But, you know, again, this is, this is meant to separate us from other people.
303. 19:48This is meant, this, this is more of the, the mindset of segregation, the very
304. 19:54thing, the whole civil rights movement was supposed to end.
305. 20:00How about somebody who thinks like me?
306. 20:02How about somebody who believes like me?
307. 20:03How about somebody who holds the same principles, the same values, the same ideals
308. 20:08that I have?
309. 20:08How about that?
310. 20:09But apparently that kind of thinking is just too deep for these leftists.
311. 20:16And by the way, it doesn't work for them because they find that using race and ethnicity is
312. 20:23a much more effective emotional tool of manipulation of people.
313. 20:29And that's why they resort to it over and over and over again.
314. 20:33It is the last refuge of the scoundrel to resort to that, to try to manipulate and control people.
315. 20:41and that's exactly what they're doing here.
316. 20:43And I believe that's why they want to tear through a hotel
317. 20:47window to get at these people.
318. 20:50They want to intimidate them.
319. 20:51They want to let them know how much they hate them.
320. 20:55I mean, you heard Swalwell talking about,
321. 20:58if I became governor of California,
322. 21:00I would strip them of their licenses.
323. 21:01That way, I mean, you've got law-abiding American citizens
324. 21:04who are doing a lawful job for a lawfully established agency
325. 21:09under legislation that was passed by Congress and signed by a former president.
326. 21:14And you mean to tell me you're going to strip them of their driver's license
327. 21:16because they happened to work for ICE or work for the Border Patrol?
328. 21:22And you want to accuse President Trump of being some kind of tyrant?
329. 21:29I mean, that takes real Hutspa because these people who think this way,
330. 21:34they are the tyrants.
331. 21:37They're the ones who want to strip us of our rights because simply because we
332. 21:41don't agree with them. Now, speaking of that, because they're always accusing
333. 21:47we conservatives are being haters and all that.
334. 21:51I don't know who this guy is,
335. 21:52but when Ilhan Omar was holding some kind of town meeting,
336. 21:55some guy came up to her and using some kind of serene,
337. 21:58sprayed her with some kind of liquid.
338. 22:01We don't know what it is,
339. 22:02but that does appear to have been anything life threatening,
340. 22:05probably just something he came up with
341. 22:06to try to slime or something.
342. 22:09Well, let me just say for the record,
343. 22:10what Tim Walz will not say,
344. 22:14what Jacob Fry will not say,
345. 22:17when the people who are in agreement with them behave in unlawful and violent and disorderly
346. 22:24ways, they won't denounce that. They won't condemn that. They won't discourage that.
347. 22:29But let me say to the extent that this guy thinks he's some kind of conservative hero,
348. 22:34as far as I'm concerned, he's a bum because we don't do that to people. Not even to Ilhan Omar.
349. 22:41We just don't do that. You don't attack people. You don't try to poison people. You don't
350. 22:47try to throw stuff on people. It's out of order. It's wrong. We have to
351. 22:54defeat these people on the high plane of ideas. And at the ballot box, not with
352. 23:02violence and intimidation and threats. That's, that's their bailiwick. That's
353. 23:06what they do. As Christians, we do not resist evil with evil. We overcome evil
354. 23:14with good. I'm not talking about physical self defense. That's an entirely
355. 23:19different category. I'm talking about this spiritual and cultural battle that we are in.
356. 23:28We don't need to be poor and stuff on people, not that any of you would do that obviously.
357. 23:32We need to be pouring the word on people. That's what we need to do. We need to give them the
358. 23:37word. Besides that Ilhan Omar, I don't know how she suddenly became rich virtually overnight,
359. 23:45went from worth a few thousands of dollars, literally a few tens of thousands of dollars
360. 23:52to now being a multi-millionaire, I forget exactly what the number is, but it's up there. I forget
361. 23:57what she's worth now, but it's in the millions. Who knows what we're going to uncover in that
362. 24:05investigation, but I certainly would like to know, given the fact again, that these leftists,
363. 24:11since they're not entrepreneurs, they haven't invented anything, they haven't created anything,
364. 24:15they haven't innovated anything, they haven't discovered anything, and yet suddenly, they
365. 24:21go from sort of middle income to being multi-millionaires. How does that work for these people, by the
366. 24:29way, are always expressing their hatred for wealth. We've got to tax the wealthy. We've got to tax the
367. 24:34rich. We've got to take more of their money. But I'll tell you what, they certainly don't miss an
368. 24:38opportunity to become one of them. And it's almost never ever by entrepreneurial activity. Never by
369. 24:48good old-fashioned
370. 24:50hard work productivity
371. 24:52creativity
372. 24:54uh... innovation
373. 24:56invention never by that none of its always somehow with some kind of little
374. 25:00political element to it
375. 25:03in which they curry favor and obtain favor
376. 25:06on the basis of their political connections
377. 25:08and mashing nations that's how
378. 25:11they do it
379. 25:12that's how the obama's became rich
380. 25:14that's why they were thirty million dollars
381. 25:18because they haven't built anything. In fact, remember, he really killed that. You can't say,
382. 25:22you know, you didn't build that. Well, you can't say that about Barack Obama because they never
383. 25:30built anything. But they're very, very wealthy in this wonderful country of ours. I wonder
384. 25:39how Ilhan, Obama, I understand how Obama got rich once he became president, once he left
385. 25:44the presidency, everybody was throwing money at him. All the liberals were throwing money
386. 25:47the atom, Netflix and book publishers and everybody else, the only money at him.
387. 25:54How did that happen with Ilhan Omar?
388. 26:00Well, it remains to be seen, but I do want to see.
389. 26:05So you know, you reap what you sow, ultimately.
390. 26:07In fact, I was just reading it.
391. 26:10What was it?
392. 26:11I think it was I reading in the, I can't remember whether it was one of the Proverbs,
393. 26:16but it says this and several parts of the Bible.
394. 26:19do not fret over evil doers because they will soon be cut off. So we don't have to hurt people,
395. 26:31we don't have to kill people, we don't have to throw stuff on people and all that nonsense.
396. 26:39All we've got to do is take our stand, pray and believe God. Now do our part. I always
397. 26:48say in 2 Chronicles chapter 20, God says to the children of Israel, set yourselves, stand
398. 26:57still and see the salvation of the Lord. And Jehoshapah told them, we do not need to fight
399. 27:03in this battle. The Lord will fight it for us. But you know what? God didn't tell him,
400. 27:08you all go home and go to bed and take a nap. I got this. No, no, no, God said, no, no, no,
401. 27:13you, you take to the battlefield, you set yourselves and then you stand there with courage and faith.
402. 27:22And then I'll step in and add my super to your natural and you'll get a supernatural result.
403. 27:28But you don't get to retire. You don't get to quit. You don't get to do nothing.
404. 27:34You know, the Lord will make our way somehow. Yeah, he will. But faith without works is dead.
405. 27:41So we got to do our part. We got to pray, but we got to also organize. We've got to give.
406. 27:48We've got to vote. We've got to do all those things that are responsible American citizens ought to do
407. 27:55in order to maintain this wonderful constitutional republic God has given to us through our founding fathers.
408. 28:02By the way, folks, you know, it is going to be very interesting to see. I was talking to somebody about the celebration of
409. 28:10250th coming up this year. You all know that the what are they what are they
410. 28:16called the semi quinten semi quintennial committee that is going to be managing
411. 28:23a lot of this for the government was appointed by Barack Obama. Yep they don't
412. 28:33even like the country. What are they going to do? Burn the flag as a
413. 28:42the celebration of the 250. What in the world are they going to do?
414. 28:46I have no doubt that President Trump will do his own thing and to the extent that this
415. 28:53committee does anything if he can piggyback Juan de Vueil, but I'm sure he's going to do
416. 28:57his own thing because I wouldn't trust them to do anything to recognize the greatness and
417. 29:04the blessing of the United States of America. But that's who's got it. I'm sure we here at
418. 29:10AFR going to be doing some things.
419. 29:13My organization is going to be doing some things.
420. 29:15A number of patriots that I know are going to be doing some things.
421. 29:17We're going to all band together to the extent that we can come together and do some things.
422. 29:23But we're going to make sure that we give God the gratitude we owe Him and the country,
423. 29:29the honor we owe it for 250 years, 250 years legacy of liberty.
424. 29:39Well, that's pretty good right there.
425. 29:42250 year legacy of liberty and thank God for it.
426. 29:50So these people who don't like our country and they denounce it, Ilhan Omar recently said
427. 29:57not too long ago but a month ago.
428. 29:59Well, maybe a couple months ago she said, America is supposed to be the great country.
429. 30:03It's one of the worst countries in the world.
430. 30:06I don't see her rushing to get back to Somalia, do you?
431. 30:12So I think what this Border Patrol agents said is it is eloquently and succinctly stated.
432. 30:21They didn't come the right way.
433. 30:24So they're not my kind.
434. 30:28But if you want to come the right way, we welcome you.
435. 30:32We welcome you to come on into our country.
436. 30:34If you're coming the right way with the right attitude, of course, as well, because now we
437. 30:38know that there are people who come into our country, they come quote unquote the right
438. 30:42way, but they don't come with the right heart. They come with an intention of somehow trying
439. 30:49to overthrow or fundamentally transform our country. And we don't need them either. I
440. 30:55love President Trump's idea of trying to revoke the citizenship of some of these people. I don't
441. 30:59think he'll be able to get that done. But I'll tell you what, I think we ought to pass
442. 31:02some legislation that says, when you become a naturalized citizen, you are on probation
443. 31:06for the rest of your life. And if you start behaving in a way that is contrary to the interests
444. 31:11of the United States of America,
445. 31:14do we just send you back where you came from?
446. 31:17It's very simple.
447. 31:20So, look folks, these people out here
448. 31:25in Minneapolis and in Minnesota,
449. 31:29they don't worry me in the least
450. 31:31because I think they're going to reap exactly
451. 31:33what they're selling.
452. 31:35You know, it could end up folks
453. 31:38that the whole kid and kaboodle of them end up in jail.
454. 31:43And we got $19 billion potentially missing.
455. 31:48I'll tell you what, who knows what we're going to find out about which politicians had their
456. 31:56hands in the till.
457. 31:59I tell you what, they better stop attacking President Trump and attacking these ICE agents
458. 32:03and vilifying them and calling them Nazis and Gestapo.
459. 32:07And they better get, they better hire some lawyers and get their own act together because
460. 32:10they may be about to pay a terrible price.
461. 32:15This is Bishop E.W. Jackson.
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491. 34:27I'm taking your calls.
492. 34:28We've got some open lines.
493. 34:30Feel free to weigh in on anything I've mentioned
494. 34:32or something else that you want to bring up.
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496. 34:38Alright, let's go to our first caller, which is Susan from Virginia.
497. 34:42Susan, welcome.
498. 34:43Thank you for taking my call, Bishop.
499. 34:47I had a question, you know, the beginning of the month or whenever it was, they talked
500. 34:55about like the leering, which should have been learning centers and all this fraud that was
501. 35:00going on.
502. 35:01And then nothing happened.
503. 35:05And do you think that had they taken care of that first, because it seemed that they
504. 35:12had enough evidence to do something about it?
505. 35:16Some of the other chaos might not have happened, because it seemed like they were fueling it.
506. 35:22The lieutenant governor was the one behind the doxing app that they have or whatever.
507. 35:30and Tim Walts himself. I couldn't believe it, basically, compared this to the Holocaust,
508. 35:38which is nothing like the Holocaust has nothing to do with that. So it seemed like it filled
509. 35:45the fire. But what happened prior to this, what they were finding was pretty serious.
510. 35:52And it seems like nothing was done. I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on that.
511. 35:57Well, Susan, thank you so much for the call.
512. 36:00It's good to hear from a fellow Virginian.
513. 36:03And Susan, let us pray that Abigail Spinnberger doesn't turn
514. 36:08Virginia into Minnesota,
515. 36:11because I think that's what they have in mind
516. 36:12for the entire country, frankly.
517. 36:14Look, I think this, I think that case is still pending.
518. 36:18I think it's still being investigated.
519. 36:20I think Pam Bondi is undoubtedly on it
520. 36:23because some of those funds that have been misappropriated,
521. 36:27If you will, stolen were federal funds.
522. 36:31This becomes therefore a federal case.
523. 36:33And I'm sure the FBI is investigating that.
524. 36:35My understanding is there have been about, I think,
525. 36:3956 convictions.
526. 36:42I think 98 were arrested.
527. 36:4585 of those people were Somalis.
528. 36:47Or 98 were charged, I believe 85 of them, Somalis.
529. 36:51A good number of those people have already been convicted.
530. 36:54I think they're continuing to uncover more information as time goes on.
531. 36:59So, stand by.
532. 37:00I think what has happened though is that the immigration thing has pushed all of that off
533. 37:04the news.
534. 37:06I don't think that means at all that nothing is happening.
535. 37:09Because remember those are two kind of separate issues.
536. 37:13The Justice Department really doesn't have much to do with this other than investigating
537. 37:16these cases where people have lost their lives or where federal agents are attacked.
538. 37:23So that's kind of a different kind of case than this massive fraud that is going on.
539. 37:31And you know, these white collar cases, Susan, and for everybody, these are complicated cases.
540. 37:38You got it, you know, there's a lot of digging and a lot of sort of following the money trail,
541. 37:42if you will, to figure out how things were being done and how these transactions were
542. 37:47being effectuated.
543. 37:49So I stand by.
544. 37:51I think there's a whole lot more yet to come on that.
545. 37:55But thank you for the call, Susan.
546. 37:57Let's go to another fellow, Virginia and David in Virginia.
547. 38:01David, welcome.
548. 38:02Good evening, sir.
549. 38:04Thank you for taking my call.
550. 38:07I believe that, well, I have a comment and a question.
551. 38:11I believe that Ilhan Omar got her money.
552. 38:14Bill got in game from the 19 billion that you spoke about.
553. 38:17had her hand in the pot probably for a while. I also listened to at the core and not too
554. 38:24awful long ago. Rick Green said that speaker, Mike Johnson, could fire Ilhan Omar. Is that
555. 38:32true? What's your comment on that?
556. 38:35All right. Well, thank you for the call, David. Look, I think you're right. I think she has
557. 38:40had her hand in the tumor. That's, that's, there's no explanation. And by the way, if
558. 38:46there were, you would think she would be the first to stand up and say, Hey, wait, whoa,
559. 38:50let me explain something. My husband and I invested in, or my husband and I bought a business
560. 38:55and I, you know, whatever. And that's, that's where our wealth is coming from. It is not
561. 39:00coming from any ill gotten gains, but she hadn't said anything has she? So does give you pause.
562. 39:06Now, no, the speaker can't kick her out of Congress. Okay. The speaker can't do that.
563. 39:15I think there are some rules that would allow them, but that would take a vote of the Congress
564. 39:23in order to do that, would allow them to expel her, because the people voted her in.
565. 39:31That's the kind of thing that is very rarely used.
566. 39:33I'll do some more research on that, but I'm pretty sure they can.
567. 39:36But what the speaker himself alone can do, I'll tell you what he can do, he can fire
568. 39:40from all of her committees.
569. 39:42He can be sitting in Congress and only able to participate when Congress is in session where
570. 39:48she can't because she would have no committee assignments.
571. 39:50He could do that.
572. 39:51And the moment she said America is the worst country in the world, in my view, he would have
573. 39:56been justified to say, well, if you think America is the worst country in the world,
574. 39:59maybe you shouldn't be conducting business.
575. 40:01And maybe we should just leave you.
576. 40:03You can represent your constituency in our sessions, but I don't need you on any committees
577. 40:07with that attitude.
578. 40:09So that much he could do.
579. 40:11He certainly can't personally kick her out of Congress, but I'm pretty sure Congress could expel her
580. 40:18Thanks for the call my friend. Let's go to
581. 40:22Judith in Tennessee Judith's welcome. I was just wondering are you familiar with the podcast on YouTube?
582. 40:32Office at Adom he has black line security for people like Nick Shirley
583. 40:39Not only am I familiar with it, but I know him sure he's been on my call and in fact
584. 40:45that think he's been a guest on my program when I was when I was hosting.
585. 40:49I don't think he's been a guest since I've been sort of substitute hosting.
586. 40:52But yeah, oh yeah.
587. 40:54I know I was watching that before you show came on.
588. 40:58He played a video before the shooting.
589. 41:05It was like a block down and he had a confrontation with the law enforcement.
590. 41:12He was an NSA driving off.
591. 41:17He kicked a hole in the back of their vehicle where the tailgate the tail light was hanging down
592. 41:23The vehicle stopped they went after him tackled him to the ground
593. 41:30He'd gone with visible. It's a type of spray. I don't know if it's a rubber bullet back in the vehicle left
594. 41:42Didn't talk to him after that
595. 41:43So then a few blocks down there is again in the same close time he gets shot. Did you see that video? I did yes
596. 41:53Yes, yes.
597. 41:54So I mean he wasn't agitated.
598. 41:57He was going.
599. 42:00Oh, no question.
600. 42:02No question about that.
601. 42:06That's it.
602. 42:07Look, thank you so much for the call, Judith.
603. 42:09Thank you for for for some of those facts.
604. 42:13And officer Tatum friend of mine would would be the one to bring out these kinds of facts.
605. 42:17He's probably has some some good inside Intel there as a former police officer.
606. 42:22look, he broke it, he got his ribs broken in some kind of
607. 42:26conflagration, conflagration about a week earlier, I
608. 42:29understand. So this guy has been in all kinds of physical
609. 42:33confrontations, and it's just just been a bad actor period. So I
610. 42:38just want gun owners to understand that while I'm sure
611. 42:44what Cash Patel was saying, if you're going to behave that
612. 42:47way, you certainly should not be carrying a gun. Because you're
613. 42:51to be asking for trouble. And he asked for it and he got it. So yeah, I'm sure all the
614. 43:03facts will come out and we'll see this very, very clearly for what it is. But I think this
615. 43:10guy brought this on himself and these ICE agents just like police officers are serving across
616. 43:16this country. They don't get up in the morning and go out thinking, I want to hurt somebody.
617. 43:20I'm gonna kill somebody.
618. 43:21They, in fact, I guarantee they get up in the morning
619. 43:24and go out thinking, I hope I don't have to hurt somebody.
620. 43:26I hope I have to kill somebody
621. 43:28and I hope nobody hurts me or kills me.
622. 43:31Now I think that's the mindset again,
623. 43:3499.9999% of all law enforcement in this country.
624. 43:40Okay, let's go to Jason in Texas.
625. 43:42Jason, welcome back.
626. 43:45Hey brother, Bishop, thank you for taking my call.
627. 43:47I know you're blessing, blessing as well, brother.
628. 43:49in a minute
629. 43:50uh...
630. 43:51happy new year and uh... congratulations on the baby
631. 43:55thank you thank you
632. 43:56just
633. 43:57thank you
634. 43:58uh... that's a blessing
635. 44:00god bless you
636. 44:01uh...
637. 44:03a brother uh... man first thing
638. 44:06since we find out how crooked elon
639. 44:08uh... el Omar
640. 44:10is we needed to port her
641. 44:12you know
642. 44:13for a kickin' around in
643. 44:14congress we need to support her
644. 44:16and her brother
645. 44:17that you married
646. 44:19about this
647. 44:22i call about this whole uh...
648. 44:24many apple is and uh...
649. 44:26they call this uh... protesting
650. 44:29i've been to a lot of protest this ship about ten years worth it
651. 44:34all of our pro-tech we carry our guns every one of
652. 44:37but they're concealed for the most part i have me my wife keep our school
653. 44:42but we don't block off any street
654. 44:44we sure don't interact with any kind of police officers doing their job i mean
655. 44:49common sense right there
656. 44:51but uh...
657. 44:52yeah it's just
658. 44:54you know
659. 44:55it
660. 44:56common sense
661. 44:57when you carry a gun
662. 44:59you just
663. 45:00you
664. 45:01you be on your best behavior
665. 45:03you let the police officers know you're carrying a high-up pulled over
666. 45:06first and told police officer said
667. 45:09you want to see my gun license
668. 45:10and then she asked me are you carrying a said yes ma'am
669. 45:13where's that in my waistband
670. 45:15to say when i run your idea of the you've got a gun license or not but i was
671. 45:19like ten years ago when we got a license to carry your taxes
672. 45:23now
673. 45:24it's all by the time brother to keep our
674. 45:28focus away from all the nineteen billion fraud
675. 45:31and then they're gonna go find all the fraud in california new york and
676. 45:34everywhere else
677. 45:35they won all this anarchy
678. 45:37to keep america you know
679. 45:40like scare
680. 45:41know they want to care we ain't care but God bless you brother we love God bless you Jason
681. 45:47good to hear from you again my friend yeah they want that and I'll tell you what they
682. 45:52also don't want us to cut off their political lifeblood because you know stealing and and
683. 46:00manipulation of the political system for personal gain so that they can satisfy their
684. 46:08frankly, their de facto slave class, you know, the people who they need to get out and vote
685. 46:14for them, get out and lie for them, get out and ride for them, whatever they need them to
686. 46:17do, they need money. And look, if they can turn a blind eye while you steal it and get a little
687. 46:24piece of it too, no problem. Because you have to remember, these people don't have the same
688. 46:29ethical and moral orientation that you and I do. They just don't. They don't believe in
689. 46:33God, therefore they don't believe that there are any absolute rules and they'll do whatever
690. 46:37they think they can get away with
691. 46:39so it's a that this guy by the way
692. 46:41pretty had to lose his life
693. 46:43with foolishness
694. 46:45you're right jason i mean it's just foolishness
695. 46:50let's see let's
696. 46:52go here
697. 46:53to get back to these calls let's go to
698. 46:58eric in north carolina eric welcome
699. 47:01well good evening bishop thank you to privilege to be on the call
700. 47:04thank you sir
701. 47:06I wanted to comment on your question about law enforcement at traffic stops for law abiding
702. 47:13citizens who are carrying whether concealed or not.
703. 47:15I think your approach is perfect.
704. 47:17I've got 19 plus years in law enforcement myself.
705. 47:21And there's no need to draw attention to it unless you're maybe getting out of the vehicle
706. 47:26for my perspective.
707. 47:28And whether you're armed or unarmed, you don't resist law enforcement or interfere with the
708. 47:33performance of their duties that's against the law whether you're armed or not.
709. 47:37There you go. Are you have you been in law enforcement then? Yes, sir. Okay. Going on
710. 47:4420 years. Oh, you still are. Well, Eric, thank you for your service, brother. Thank you
711. 47:49for being out there for us. Well, thank you, sir. And thank you for your Marine Corps service.
712. 47:54I did have one other comment if you have a second for it. Go right ahead. I share your
713. 47:58concerned about Miss Spinnburger, as you call her, taking office in Virginia as a
714. 48:05alumnus of VMI myself. I'm concerned about that and some of the bills that are
715. 48:12currently over the Virginia to strip VMI of its independent governance, House Bill
716. 48:181374 is trying to put it its board of visitors under Virginia State University
717. 48:24so that they can't make long term decisions for the Institute and House Bill 1377 trying
718. 48:31to establish a task force to investigate them again whether they should be funded at all.
719. 48:36So and for Senate bill 494, the Board of Visitors, they weren't trying to basically do a court
720. 48:42packing kind of scheme.
721. 48:44So all right, Patrick, institutions.
722. 48:48Thank you for the call, Eric.
723. 48:49We're out of time.
724. 48:50And you know more about what's going on in Virginia than most Virginians do.
725. 48:53and you're in North Carolina, so thank you for that.
726. 48:56But look, you have to remember though, Abigail Spinnberger is a moderate.
727. 49:01So we don't have anything to worry about.
728. 49:02Folks, that's going to do it for today.
729. 49:04It's been my pleasure, my honor to sit in for Abraham Hamilton the third.
730. 49:08In the meantime, you know what to do.
731. 49:09Stand up, step up, speak up, refuse to back up because we cannot be defeated if we will
732. 49:15not quit because we are on God's side.
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