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Since the Chavez-Maduro regime, 8-10 million Venezuelans have fled the country.

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0:00 - 15:00. Ecclesiastes 3:11 (ESV). It is inescapable. God has set eternity in the hearts of mankind. 15:00 - 31:00. Since the Chavez-Maduro regime, 8-10 million Venezuelans have fled the country. 31:00 - 48:00. How should we navigate the current desires of younger Americans’ to fix themselves to enduring societal anchors? | Tabernacle Leadership Summit 2026 | Family Focus Weekend Feb 20-22, 2026 or call: 800-326-4543 To donate call : 877-616-2396

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0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
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0:31Good evening, everybody.
0:34Welcome to the Hamilton Corner here on American Family Radio.
0:37I'm your host Abraham Hamilton the third joined by the produce extraordinaire, often imitated
0:44and never duplicated the real J. Mac, ladies and gentlemen.
0:49And we are ready to rock and roll with today's edition of the program.
0:52At this very moment, many of you, if not most of you, are making your transition from your
0:56part time jobs where you generate an income to your full time jobs where you cultivate an outcome.
1:01And as you do so, I want to remind you to do it with intentionality. Understand in the primacy
1:07that God places on family and allowing that primacy to govern, to guard and to God your engagement in
1:15your own homes. We will never as a society out politic, out vote, out litigate, out Supreme Court
1:26opinion, frankly, even out church, the deficiencies that abound in the home.
1:34If we would welcome God to grasp a hold of us in within our familial units, if husbands
1:44would love their wives as Christ loved the church, if wives would submit themselves to
1:49their own husbands, which as you verbi say numerous times, it's not a generally applicable
1:54notion to males in general, it's a covenantal specified investment of one's life and commitment,
2:03covenantal commitment. And if husbands and wives would set as their lives priority to rear the
2:11children that God blesses them with, to rear them in his nurture and admonition, guys, if
2:19these things happen, we would see a radical transformation of our society.
2:26I am not naive or unaware of the reality of the circumstances that we live in,
2:33the prevalence of broken families.
2:35I understand that reality that we live in, but guys, our experiences do not give
2:40us the wherewithal to change God's standards in actuality.
2:45highlights the great costs, the great suffering that we endure as a result of rejecting God's
2:52way. But if we would welcome Him to grasp a hold of us within our familial units, and our
2:59familial units would be comprised of transformed people who have been born again by the power
3:06of God, by grace through faith, we would see the very thing that we want to see. A lot of
3:14The conversations that we're having is the byproduct of the fruit of the problem, not the root,
3:21not the root of the problem.
3:25You know, I often, you know, talk a lot of different things.
3:28And I mentioned, you know, lots of conversations, especially with Venezuelan news and all and
3:36drug trafficking.
3:38Why is there such a high demand for drug consumption, illegal drug consumption in our country?
3:43Why is there such a high demand for that?
3:47You know, scripture talks about the depravity of the human heart.
3:51The human heart has to be addressed and that is something that politics is insufficient to
3:57address, which is why the gospel must be proclaimed.
4:01Must be proclaimed.
4:03Christ followers must commit ourselves to obeying our Lord and executing his commission.
4:09And if we would welcome him to transform us individually and the grasp of hold of us within
4:13our families, we could see a radical transformation of America within one generation, by the way.
4:19It wouldn't take as long as people think it would take. That's where the rubber meets the road. So
4:26as you're making your transition to your full time jobs right now, from your part time jobs,
4:33my encourage and challenge frankly is to do so with intentionality. There are lots of things that
4:38are happening just like you. I have a family, I have a wife, I have children, six of them,
4:42I got a six pack.
4:43But there's no greater responsibility that my wife and I have than to rear our children
4:50in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
4:53Paying the bills is not more important.
4:59Making groceries, that's what we call it, New Orleans.
5:01Y'all may call it grocery shopping.
5:02But the New Orleans, you say making groceries.
5:05You know, we mad at me.
5:09I'm just telling you.
5:11It's the most important thing we can do, guys.
5:13And the Lord is sovereign over the makeup of our families.
5:16The Lord is sovereign over our life stages.
5:19And it is vitally important for us to recognize that.
5:26Now to the word of God we go, Ecclesiastes chapter 3 verse 11 is what we're going to go.
5:31Ecclesiastes chapter 3 verse 11 is where we're going to go.
5:37This is wisdom literature.
5:40I was talking to actually my brother not too long ago about the book of Ecclesiastes and
5:47that actually flows, follows the ark,
5:52and the downward trend, if you will, of Solomon's life.
5:57But in the earlier phases, you have
6:00more potent expressions of God's wisdom through Solomon
6:02versus the evidences of Solomon's being overrun by his sin
6:08that's indicative, as reflected in latter portions
6:11of this book.
6:15But in Ecclesiastes chapter three, verse 11,
6:17Solomon proclaims a vital and profound truth.
6:21And this is going to harken back to something
6:24we discussed earlier this week.
6:26In Ecclesiastes 3 verse 11, it says,
6:28key God has made everything beautiful in its time.
6:34He has also set eternity in the hearts of men,
6:42yet so that man cannot understand what God has done
6:47from the beginning to the end.
6:51I wanna explain what Solomon is saying there.
6:53And I guess I'll start with the latter portion.
6:55Oh, I was, the first portion, first, then the latter portion.
6:58Solomon proclaims the truth that God has set eternity
7:03in the hearts of man.
7:05And the latter portion of this verse,
7:07when it says yet so man cannot comprehend
7:09or understand fully what God has done
7:11from beginning to end,
7:12what Solomon is communicating,
7:13it is because God is eternal
7:16And man is made for eternity, that God has made it
7:20so that man cannot exhaust his capacity to understand God
7:25within our temporal setting, within our temporal context,
7:28which is why there's such yearnings and strivings.
7:31This is why humans, which we are made in the image of God
7:34as distinct from the animals, we ponder things
7:37like the purpose of life.
7:38We ponder things like, how did we get here?
7:41Why are we here?
7:42Existential questions.
7:43We ponder things about how did the universe come to be?
7:47These are all reflections of the truth that Solomon communicated that God has said eternity
7:53in the hearts of men.
7:55Now I mentioned earlier this week, we were talking about this, that first and foremost,
8:00truth is transcendent, objective, immutable, meaning it does not change, and it is enduring.
8:10And we are in a current cultural climate where people, but especially younger people, as a
8:16departure from kind of some of the trends that had transpired, where younger people are starting
8:21to yearn for more enduring facets in society that they've been exhausted by the rapid transient
8:29causes.
8:30I mean, we ran from, you talk about Obergefell, saying sex marriage needs to be protected by
8:34the courts.
8:35And now you're talking about transgenderism?
8:37two year olds know whether or not they're born in the wrong bodies and that happened in
8:40a blink of an eye.
8:44You know, rejecting biblical truth, embracing critical theory, which has its subset, queer
8:50critical theory, critical race theory, and feminist theory, all of these are subsets of
8:56critical theory.
8:57And now all of a sudden you mean to tell me what, because I'm a man, I'm toxic?
9:03These things have been rapid changes just in the previous generation.
9:06What do you want to do be when you grow up Tommy? I want to be a police officer. I want to be a firefighter
9:11I want to be I want to be you know
9:13I want to help those and now some of the same qualities that will cause Tommy to be those things now their toxic
9:19these these rapid changes these these rejections of
9:25Societal norms, but but remind I want to remind you that I don't refer to these things as societal norms solely because they're norms the
9:33societal norms are
9:35reflections of enduring truth. This is why I reject the idea of referring to
9:39traditional marriage. God's definition of marriage is salient and applicable today
9:45as it has always been, not because of traditions. No, no, no. Mankind has built
9:50traditions around the truth that God authored. This is why I simply talk about
9:55marriage or biblical marriage. I don't need a qualifier because God as the
10:00designer of marriage is its lone definer. Well the reason why there are
10:03traditions in this regard is because the traditions have followed man's adherence to truth.
10:09But with these changes and people, I said earlier this week, people, they watched that
10:18show Sex in the City and they tried that out.
10:20And now we have an increasing number of older, professionally accomplished, unmarried women
10:26who are realizing, man, this is not what I signed up for.
10:32I regret not giving more attention to building a life
10:36and building a family in my younger years
10:38because now I'm JD Vance's cat lady.
10:45No shade to cat owners, by the way.
10:48But y'all get what I'm saying.
10:50You have younger men who've kind of been pushed
10:55to the margins of society.
10:58And I'm like, man, we're tired of this.
11:01We're tired of it.
11:02The reason for this guys, this is not,
11:04and this is what I want everybody to understand
11:06because if we reduce this merely to political machinations,
11:09we're missing the forest for the trees.
11:12We're missing the forest for the trees.
11:15What we're experiencing is people realizing
11:18that Ecclesiastes 3.11 is true.
11:21God has set eternity in the hearts of men.
11:27God has made us in the foundation of who we are
11:32to know that we were made for more than what is temporal.
11:37who were built for more than what is merely tangible.
11:40We were actually created for something beyond ourselves.
11:45I call that the God void.
11:48And yet people all over that try to fill the God-sized void
11:53with all kinds of alternatives and counterfeits.
11:56And it's just like I'm gonna use this analogy often,
11:58it's when you're hungry, but you try to
12:01respond to that hunger with a bag of skittles.
12:03And guess what's gonna happen?
12:04Immediately, the skittles may taste good initially.
12:07You might get a sugar rush, but in about a good 10, 15 minutes, guess what's going to happen?
12:11You're going to be hungry again.
12:14But you've consumed something that is incapable of satisfying the truth of the longing, the
12:23truth of the longing, and the truth of the longing that the hunger is driven by your
12:29your body cells requiring nutrients for sustenance.
12:36But when it's offered a counterfeit,
12:38instead of the nutrients for sustenance,
12:41it not only is unsatisfying,
12:43but you continue that process,
12:45and what happened all that once?
12:46But you continue that over time,
12:47then you end up with chronic obesity
12:51and things of that nature.
12:53God has set eternity in the hearts of men.
12:57And then the latter part of this verse,
12:58So yet, so the man so that mankind cannot find out
13:02what God has done from beginning to end.
13:05God has set eternity in the hearts of men.
13:07Mankind ponders broad, wide, existential questions
13:12have, we have minds that ponder things like destiny
13:18and ponder things that are of an eternal scale.
13:23But we've been hardwired in such a way
13:25and God has fixed our universe in such a way
13:27and made us in such a way that we'll never be able
13:29exhaust those queries in a temporal disposition.
13:34And so I know there are many young people
13:35who listen to this show and watch this show,
13:37and I wanna say to you that longing at you since,
13:39that itch that you feel, that wondering,
13:42and that longing for something bigger and greater
13:45than yourself that is beyond your temporal station,
13:47that is something that God has put in you.
13:50But here's the facts.
13:51Here's the fact that longing will only be satisfied in Christ.
13:56The longing will only be satisfied in knowing your Creator, the lover of your soul, the one
14:05who dawned human flesh, invaded human history to make for himself a people when there were,
14:10when there was no people.
14:14This is why the need to respond to the gospel is far more immediate than you could ever imagine,
14:22Because once you have the eternal longings of your soul satisfied in Christ, it transforms
14:29your entire outlook on life.
14:33In responding to that call, it's not solely about one's outlook on life.
14:38It fixes you with an eternal hope, an eternal anchor.
14:42And because of that eternal reality, it then provides all manner of meaning for life on
14:48this side of eternity.
14:49God has set eternity in the hearts of man.
14:53to fill the God void with counterfeit substitutes."
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16:04Shining light into the darkness, this is the Hamilton Corner, an American family radio.
16:11Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton the third here.
16:15Well guys, we're all ready here next week.
16:18We will be in South Haven, Mississippi at Tabernacle, South Haven Church's Leadership Summit.
16:25That will be January 15th through the 17th.
16:30Will be there looking forward to this time.
16:33The pastor there, Bishop Vincent Matthews is a man of conviction and vision.
16:38It's amazing how the Lord has moved him and utilized him in building his kingdom, Bishop
16:44Matthews and his wife were full-time missionaries in South Africa for a decade.
16:49Then the Lord brought him back home and the Lord is doing amazing things through him and
16:55the church family there in South Haven, so I'm delighted to be able to join them next week.
17:00You are welcome to attend the Leadership Summit.
17:03You simply have to go to tabsouthaven.org.
17:07That's the website, T-A-B-S-O-U-T-H-A-V-E-N-D-O-R-G for all of the information you need and you
17:14can be in the space.
17:15If you're in the area willing to come to the area, I'd love to see you there.
17:19And then in February, we'll be in Simsboro, Louisiana, North Louisiana at Simsboro Baptist
17:26Church, first FPC Sims Burrows, Family Focus Weekend.
17:30All right, this is going to be an amazing weekend where I'll have the privilege of ministering
17:35quite a bit there, and my wife actually will be doing a session for the wives and the women
17:43at the church.
17:44It's gonna be an amazing time the event. There is no charge at all for the event
17:49But the family at Simsboro is asking for everyone to register because they will provide fruit
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18:15Simsboro Baptist Church know you are coming and I would love to see you there if you're in that area or when they come to that
18:22area these are going to be amazing events I'll continue to mention these throughout the year we'll be working on some stuff
18:29maybe another website so you can keep up with all the goings on because we have a lot of stuff
18:34happening in 2026. We thank God for it because we must work while it is day. So please if you're in the in those areas or
18:43willing to come to either of those areas, we'd love to see you there. You're welcome to do so. All right. I have in studio with
18:50me. You already know my favorite guest of all time. Actually, if it came across a show that we did in 2019, we were still on
19:00Urban Family Talk and AFR.
19:02And it was actually my wife's second time
19:04being on the air at that time.
19:05Remember that?
19:06She had the short hair cut.
19:09And I was like, wow, time has flown.
19:13That time has flown.
19:14But I wanted to have you to join me in studio here today
19:18because the world really is reacting to
19:21some portions of the world is reeling,
19:23other portions of the world is rejoicing.
19:25Yes.
19:26As a result of what's happened in Venezuela
19:28over the weekend where Nicholas Maduro became Maduro Frio.
19:34Mui Frio.
19:35Mui Frio.
19:36As he had to go to the NYC to stand charges
19:40under the indictment, it's there.
19:42Now to kind of set up this conversation,
19:45I wanna mention this.
19:46So I've been talking extensively about the fact that
19:50Venezuela has not always been a Marxist country.
19:52Yeah.
19:53It followed Hugo Chavez's election in 1998.
19:59And then he passed away in 2013 and Nicolas Maduro became his successor, if you will.
20:08So it's just been 26 years that Venezuela has been a Marxist state.
20:12The nation was the fourth wealthiest country in the world in the 1950s, in the world.
20:19in a short order, 26 years, is going to the place to where people in the nation were starving.
20:24And as a result of the Marxism taking over the tyranny, the murder, the Gestapo-like
20:33tactics we were talking at home about, man, you can't even have a cell phone there if
20:36you do the collectibles.
20:38The collectibles.
20:39The collectibles.
20:40That's funny.
20:41They call the goons, squad, the collectives.
20:43Yeah.
20:44That's something.
20:45They even go through your phones and put people in jail and kill people, all these kind of
20:48things, but following the marks is take over, it's also led to a massive humanitarian crisis
20:54to where a full third of the Venezuelan population has left the country and estimates, the numbers
21:01have been put and I've been looking at this anywhere between 8 and 10 million people have
21:06left the country and it to put this in context in order for a third of the American population
21:10to move elsewhere.
21:11You're talking about upwards of 60 million people.
21:14So just to give you kind of an idea of what that is, and I just want to read off some of
21:18these statistics because you'll find some data in different places.
21:22But according to the Guardian, they put the number of Venezuelans who have migrated to
21:30Colombia at 2.8 million to Colombia, 1.6 million to Peru, 1.16 million to the United
21:39in states and that includes Puerto Rico, which is relatively close to Venezuela.
21:44728,000 in Chile, 626,000 to Brazil, 518,000 to Spain.
21:53All of these numbers, it's over this.
21:54I'm not giving you dollars and cents.
21:56So it's like for Colombia, it's 2,856,123.
22:00Right.
22:01So I'm kind of getting out of the dollars and cents, but 489,000 to Ecuador.
22:07And I'm doing this in order of the largest population of Venezuelans to the smallest.
22:12223,000 to Argentina, 124,000 to the Dominican Republic, 110,000 to Mexico, 102,000 to Portugal,
22:2194,000 to Panama, 64,000 to Italy, 41,000 to Uruguay or Uruguay.
22:29Uruguay.
22:30Where do you have?
22:31Uruguay.
22:3231,000 to France.
22:33All right.
22:35So it's remarkable to me having that understanding 8 to 10 million people have left the country
22:41as a result of that a pretty significant thousands upon thousands in Puerto Rico.
22:46Yeah, it's in the thousands.
22:50What have you seen because you are my plug into the Spanish speaking world, what have you seen
22:56around the world and I would get starting in Puerto Rico in terms of the reaction to what
23:01President Trump has done the Trump administration has done in turning Nicholas into Maduro Freo.
23:07Yes. So because of the large number of Venezuelans in the diaspora, particularly in Puerto Rico,
23:14there's a couple of thousand. And so there's an organization called La Guali-Sion,
23:20Puerto Venezuela, which is coalition for Venezuelans in the diaspora. And so there's one or there's a
23:25chapter in Puerto Rico. And they were talking about how on January the 3rd, when everybody
23:32woke up to the Great News, I mean, they ran in the streets. I mean, it was celebration.
23:36There was flags everywhere. And you have a lot of Puerto Ricans who are also, you know,
23:41understanding and knowing and supporting the Venezuelan's who are finally able to even consider
23:50a free Venezuelan, right? So they understand a lot of them understand that it's not an
23:53immediate freedom that they can all return back right now.
23:57But the fact that there is a glimmer of hope where now this man, this murderer, has been
24:02able to be taken out by the strongest force in the world, they're rejoicing.
24:07They ran the streets.
24:08I mean, they're going crazy in Puerto Rico.
24:10Now there's a couple of crazy leftists, socialists within Puerto Rico who are coming out protesting
24:16against the arrest or the extradition, whatever we're going to call it.
24:22And so there's that, you know, there's always those crazy fus that are really loud.
24:28But the, but the Venice, Waylands all over the world are rejoicing.
24:33And there's like one guy, you and I talk about him is Augustine, and he, he described, and
24:41I wouldn't say he's necessarily a Christian, but he certainly is conservative.
24:45And I believe he is Argentinian, yes, and ethnically, but he lives in Spain.
24:51But he has a passion to see Central and South America turn away from these Marxist, frankly,
24:58Marxist leaning in inclinations.
25:00And it's been really trying to offer information and data and content to aid in that process.
25:08You mentioned that there are some leftists who are upset.
25:12But in terms of the ratio, what ratio have you seen in terms of has it been a majority
25:18or half that are upset or is it pretty much the overwhelming responses, most of the Spanish-speaking
25:24world are celebrating this and they are few.
25:26Yeah, it's the few for sure.
25:28It's a few.
25:29It's the loud minority.
25:30It's what we see in the United States too.
25:32You have the extreme leftists, liberals that love communism and love like Mamdani.
25:41I mean, they're extreme.
25:43And so, but they're fewer.
25:44They're just loud.
25:46And it's similar, it's just in a smaller quantity in the smaller countries in the Western Hemisphere,
25:51right?
25:52So you have the countries that are ran by socialists, right?
25:55Venezuela, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Nicaragua, Colombia.
25:58And then you have a lot of them that have embraced freedom and democracy.
26:03But definitely even within the countries where the dictators are running, the socialist, communist
26:09dictators are running the country, the people are crying out.
26:13The majority of the people want freedom.
26:15you've been built by God to be the desire for freedom, the majority of the people want freedom,
26:18which is why you see the streets in the United States and everywhere else of Venezuelan celebrating,
26:23because they realize, okay, we have suffered enough.
26:25They are literally not in their country because of the misery that they lived, you know, and
26:29experienced.
26:30So they're celebrating the majority celebrating for sure.
26:32Now one of the facts that came out is that Nicholas Maduro had a personal basically like
26:40got bodyguard and a pretty large contingent of them were Cuban.
26:45And one of the things that has been kind of exposed to the world to come to learn is just
26:51how deep and broad Cuban influence in Venezuela has been.
26:55In addition to Iranian and Chinese and Russian, but there are many Cubans who are who have
27:03by God's grace made it out of Cuba, but their heart is for Cuba and they have been reacted
27:11this as well, what have some of those reactions been?
27:14Yeah, so first, when in regards to Venezuela, though, we have to be honest about this because
27:18the leftist media is spinning it differently.
27:22Spinning it in English speaking media or spinning it in every book?
27:25Everywhere, in English and Spanish, yeah.
27:27Where they're saying that America has taken over Venezuela and we're trying to just conquer
27:31it, right?
27:32And the reality is that the Cubans during Chavez, right, have gradually taken over Venezuela,
27:41like they are running the show in Venezuela.
27:43The majority of their militaries
27:44comprise of Venezuelans.
27:4532 of them died.
27:46Compressive.
27:47I'm sorry, excuse me, of Cubans.
27:49Yes, thank you.
27:49Of Cubans, 32 of them died that were right there
27:52in the protecting, if you will.
27:53The compound.
27:54Yeah.
27:56So, Venezuela has always had their fingers
27:59very deep in Venezuela.
28:01I'm learning that now.
28:01I didn't know.
28:02Communist Cuba.
28:03Communist Cuba, yeah, for sure.
28:04So when the leftist media says that America now
28:08is coming to conquer them or to take over
28:10Venezuela, really, it's the opposite.
28:13We are freeing them from communist rule
28:16beyond the Venezuelan borders.
28:18Like we have countries, particularly Cuba,
28:20and you have, there's interviews right now
28:22that I'm seeing where you have, back in the early 2000s,
28:26Maduro being interviewed saying,
28:28are there Cubans, socialist, communist,
28:31Cubans in the military and in power in Venezuela?
28:34He's like, no, no, no, no, no, these,
28:36we're all Venezuelans, we're all Venezuelans.
28:37And come and find out now, when it's all uprooted
28:40trying, you know, we're starting to
28:41uproot it. We're exactly, we're
28:43seeing a lot of Cuban
28:45communist, like, revolutionaries, if
28:48you will, that have been taken over
28:50Cuba and then I'm sorry, Venezuela.
28:51And then we're seeing because of
28:53that, the, the, the, the, the
28:56that, the oil in Spanish, but like
28:57the, the, the oil being
29:00managed by the communist
29:02Cubans in Venezuela selling it to
29:05our enemies on ours, on our in our
29:06hemisphere, right?
29:07Suddenly to America's enemies.
29:09Yes, to America's enemies, correct.
29:11Yeah, Iran and China and Russia.
29:13And so the left is spinning it to their advantage,
29:17but in reality, what is happening is that there is freedom
29:20that is coming to the people.
29:22Now, is America gonna have a say in it?
29:26Yes, but the Venezuela's that I have heard,
29:28I have been watching and watching and watching it.
29:30Every Venezuelan that I have seen is rejoicing at the fact
29:34that President Trump and the United States military
29:37and Marco Rubio are coming in and helping them
29:41not only extract the oil, but also manage it
29:44so that the Venezuelan people can actually take advantage
29:46of it because they have not been in the last 26 years.
29:49And that's actually what happened when Cuba,
29:51when we started on Venezuela was the fourth wealthiest
29:54country in the world. Yes.
29:55And so then the Cubans now, the three Cubans
29:57in the United States and everywhere else,
29:59and even the Cubans within the island
30:02are rejoicing that Cuba's next, Cuba's next.
30:05Like they're like wanting freedom.
30:07They're actually so funny, there's a lot of comedians going around that are Cuban that are like,
30:10we have oil, we have oil, look, there's oil!
30:12Because they're like, please calm, like what benefit can we give you all, so yum, come and get this man out.
30:18Yes, come in.
30:20So yes, like you're talking about, you have the American liberal media spinning it completely opposite of what the people on the ground
30:29who are actually and have been living in this type of horrible circumstances, they're rejoicing
30:36And because they're like, please come, you want the oil come, we have oil, you know, like please.
30:41And so because they want freedom and it's been far too long where families have been destroyed because of this.
30:48One of the things that has come out, especially with this is, I've seen Venezuela's all over the world,
30:52but especially those in the United States of America, them saying that they're eager to return to
30:59to rebuild Venezuela, to rebuild it, is that a sentiment in the Spanish-speaking media,
31:06is that a sentiment that you found to be repeated frequently?
31:13Or is that kind of a one-off kind of idea?
31:15Yeah, no, it is.
31:16It is what?
31:17It is that they're wanting to return.
31:19A lot of them want to return.
31:21There are a lot of them that have been born in the United States that have made a life here
31:24and have their degrees here and everything.
31:26And so it would be difficult, maybe even harder for them to return to rebuild because they
31:29have to start over from scratch. So a lot of them that are like have been here for many
31:33decades even beyond Chavez, like beyond the 26 years. Prior to Chavez's election. Yeah, and
31:39that even have had children here, those probably won't go back. Right. And hopefully those are
31:43the ones that are naturalized and they become citizens. Right. But you have those that have
31:48come the last 10 years on them on 13 years under Maduro, where because Maduro made it
31:53worst and Chavez, right? That's six of the worst. That's what happens with communism.
31:57And so you have those that have come back come recently wanting to return, but here's the thing,
32:03they have to return after the three phases that Marco Rubio said, are you going to happen,
32:08right? Like at the end, they can't return right now because there's still a lot of oppression.
32:13You are watching or listening to the Hamilton Corner. My guest is none other than Mrs. Maria
32:18Hamilton. We're having a conversation about the response in Spanish-speaking
32:24countries including in the US territory of Puerto Rico to the news of Nicholas
32:30Maduro's capture and will we come back from this break? I want to ask a question of
32:37you because you and I discussed an interview of a father and son who of
32:41Venezuelans but they have been living in Puerto Rico for quite some time and
32:44talking a bit about the history. I wanted to ask you to share some of the
32:48insights from their on-the-ground experiences that may be enlightening for our audience here.
32:53Stay with us. We'll be right back after this break.
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34:10Back to the Hamilton Quarter on American Family Radio.
34:14Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton III,
34:17here along with my lovely wife.
34:19And I do mean lovely.
34:20Hey.
34:21My horse still skips to be when you walk in the room.
34:23True.
34:24We're having a conversation about the response around the world, particularly in the Spanish
34:30speaking portions of the world to the news of Nicholas Maduro's arrest and removal from
34:37Venezuela.
34:38Or some people might challenge, say, Venezuela.
34:41Please don't.
34:42Please don't.
34:43But before the break I mentioned, there was this interview that actually the Venezuelan
34:51and gentlemen, the father and son were interviewed
34:53actually by Puerto Rican interviewers.
34:55Yes.
34:56And they had been living in Puerto Rico,
34:58and they were sharing a bit of the history
35:00because they lived through.
35:01The father and son lived through the transition from,
35:06oh sorry, the transition of Venezuela from freedom
35:09into chavismo.
35:11Yes.
35:12And so what are some of the things you would like
35:15for the audience here to understand
35:17that are important for them to understand?
35:21from their first-hand experience of that transition.
35:25So it was really interesting to see that because
35:28the father lived through before Chavez,
35:31and he explained the previous two presidencies
35:34democratically elected presidents before Hugo Chavez,
35:36and then in the transition into Madhul.
35:38And remember that Chavez was elected democratically as well?
35:41Yes he was, yes he was.
35:43But, just like Mamdani was elected democratically
35:46in New York City, just like that.
35:48Because we have a population of people who are ignorant.
35:50and easily manipulated.
35:54That's not to excuse them, it's just the reality.
35:56And so, but the father experienced it
35:58and it was really interesting to see his take on it.
36:02He was a lawyer in Venezuela
36:05and was able to provide a pretty comfortable life
36:09before communism took over.
36:11And then he had to flee and they actually left
36:14to go to Puerto Rico,
36:15which is the closest American territory to them.
36:17And they arrived 2015, 2016.
36:21So relatively recently.
36:22Yes, because again, the majority of the Venezuelans
36:25that left left within the last 10 years.
36:27And so let's just pause and underscore that for people.
36:30So the majority of the eight to 10 million Venezuelans
36:33that have fled the country, they have left
36:36within the last 10 years.
36:37I know for sure in Puerto Rico,
36:38there were about 200-ish Venezuelans before 2016.
36:42And then after that, we're in the thousands,
36:44just because Puerto Rico's small, right?
36:45But then even you can multiply that by a lot more when you consider other countries.
36:50So, this man and his son are explaining what led to where done we have to leave.
36:57So, first day living in the country, comfortable life, they're okay.
37:02Chavez gets elected and it's never overnight.
37:05So, it's a gradual taking over and confiscating not only properties but taking over independent
37:11corporations taking over independent or even like organizations that were working with the
37:19state, if you will, but then they take it over under the state fully, you know? So then they
37:23start doing that and then they start getting, again, Cuba starts coming in and you start
37:28having the Collectivos. The Collectivos is really just thugs. It's Cuban people who,
37:33Fide Castro and Trawul Castro end up sending over there to be the hands and feet of the
37:39state or the government in the streets of Venezuela.
37:43And so you have these collectibles that come and check and just come into your house and
37:47they, and you have to pretty much prove that you are not of the Opal-Secion, the opposition,
37:51right?
37:52You have to prove and show that you are not having any text messages with anybody talking about
37:56anything that has to do with anything that is in disagreement with Travis and anything
38:01that he's putting forth, same with Maduro.
38:03And so they had one time they came in and this is the thing.
38:07Some like police comes in and just kind of like goes through your,
38:10no, these are thugs, these are people with weapons.
38:12Again, the same thing started happening
38:13where they started taking and confiscating weapons
38:15and even setting up Ademireas, which is a place where you go
38:19and you willingly voluntarily give up your arms
38:22because we are a nation where we are a nation of peace
38:25and we don't want to come against each other
38:28and we don't want crime and so everybody won't voluntarily
38:31except for the military and except for the people in power, right?
38:34And the collectibles.
38:35So the collectibles come in with their weapons, tie them up because they're thugs, right?
38:38So they tie them up and they end up taking everything.
38:43Like they, all their possessions, their TVs, their anything of value, they take it.
38:46They end up taking their vehicle too.
38:49And that's the first time.
38:50So they moved from their home in the country where that happened because it wasn't just
38:53in the cities that the collectibles were operating.
38:55In the country, they moved to an apartment that they didn't want to move into because it
38:58is in the city.
38:59And then there, they start having the same thing.
39:01of the people coming into their home,
39:03home them a gun point, the son was hitting the head
39:05with a gun.
39:06Pissed the whipped.
39:07Yes, and so then in the streets,
39:10people try to come out to protest and they start killing them.
39:13And so that happened two times,
39:15and then the third time the dad said,
39:16I gotta get out of here.
39:17This is in this father's experience,
39:20this happened.
39:20Personal experience, correct.
39:22In the third time it happened, that's when he...
39:24Well, the second time it happened,
39:25he didn't want a third time to happen.
39:26So you said, I'm not gonna wait till the third time,
39:28we're leaving, and so they went to Puerto Rico.
39:30Did he talk about how they were able to leave?
39:32No, he didn't.
39:33No, the challenges.
39:33Yeah, it had to be difficult.
39:34I don't know exactly, probably illegally and all that,
39:37but it's unfortunate.
39:38They have, they came to Puerto Rico.
39:40He's a lawyer, y'all.
39:41He's a lawyer.
39:42He comes to Puerto Rico and he's a roofer now.
39:44Because that's what happens.
39:45You can't, I mean, you come into a country
39:47whether it's legally or illegally, honestly,
39:49a lot of the times, the certifications
39:51and the degrees and everything do not carry over.
39:54So you have to start from scratch.
39:54So he says, he's like, you have to reinvent yourself.
39:57I mean, this is a matter of life and death.
39:58It's not, and guys, we are not condoning legal immigration,
40:02okay, we are not, I don't agree with it at all.
40:04I understand it, but I don't agree with it.
40:06There has to be a process where you allow,
40:08even if it is where you allow when they come in illegally
40:11and you have to go through the process.
40:13So.
40:14And let me just say this.
40:15Yeah.
40:15When you see it has to be, I would say very plainly,
40:18no one has a right to migrate to another country.
40:21There's not, you don't have a right
40:22to come to United States of America.
40:24If the United States of America decides it's within
40:27our best interest to have immigration policy,
40:30then we have the wherewithal to apply that policy,
40:32or to say we need to put a moratorium on that,
40:35which frankly, I think our country needs a moratorium
40:38on all immigration for a time period to allow us
40:41to recalibrate our own society to get back
40:45in a healthy footing, but that's the conversation
40:46for another day.
40:47But it's coming back to me now because he did say
40:49that he applied for refugee status,
40:50and he was approved by the US government in Puerto Rico.
40:53So probably a refugee or asylum, some sort of combination.
40:55Yes, asylum, but here's the thing.
40:56We have that in place, like the American, it's not perfect,
40:59but we do have a system in place for allowing people to come
41:03or accepting them to come if they are able to prove
41:06that they're not gonna be criminals here
41:07and they have a history in their own country,
41:10but they're being persecuted,
41:12and that is exactly what happened with this family.
41:13So they came, but he had to reinvent himself.
41:15So now he's a roofer and he's lived in,
41:18for these what, six years?
41:20Well, 10 years now, I'm sorry.
41:21Yeah, yeah.
41:22Because he came in 2016, the son came in 2015.
41:24So 10 years now built a business in Puerto Rico.
41:28But so yeah, he was rejoicing in their Christians too.
41:32And so, oh, you know what?
41:33They were persecuted Christians in Venezuela.
41:38That's what he applied for as a asylum seeker.
41:41Anyway, so, but that's the reality on the ground.
41:44So then when you hear that President Trump,
41:47which he wasn't him, but you know,
41:49the Delta Force came in and took this man out.
41:51And again, remember, he took him out and the government of Venezuela, because it was not
41:56Trump who put Delce Rodriguez in place.
41:59It was the government of Venezuela, because again, we complained about the United States
42:03coming in as tyrant and one in the conqueror, but in reality, we could have done way more.
42:07We could have taken Delce, we could have taken Dios Dado, we could have taken Padrino, we
42:10could have taken all those people that are in cahoots with Maduro.
42:13Sorry.
42:14No, you all, I'm just saying I know who those people are, but the audience, I know who they
42:17are.
42:18These are leadership.
42:19in the government of Venezuela,
42:20they've been running Venezuela along with the Cubans
42:23for many, many years.
42:24And so, Delcey was the one who was named
42:27as a vice president previously,
42:29and the Venezuelan government is now elevating her
42:32to the status of president.
42:32Right, but the liberal American media has been saying
42:36that Trump put her in place to say,
42:38what are they saying?
42:38They're spinning it to say,
42:40Americans don't care for Venezuelans,
42:41they just want the oil.
42:42So as long as they get the oil through Delcey, Rodriguez,
42:46then the Venezuelan people are gonna still be under
42:47a dictatorship, and it doesn't matter
42:49because who cares about the Venezuelans? That is not true. That is not what Marco
42:52Reba and President Trump are doing. And so, but Delce has been put in place, right?
42:57Temporarily, and they keep saying interim, interim, interim, because she is
43:00interim, because she's part of phase one, because out of all of those people, she's
43:05the one that even though she's a criminal alongside Maduro, she's the one that's
43:09now wanting to play. They cooperate. Yes, they may. But cooperate, yes. She's the one
43:14that's like, okay, don't take me, please. I can work with you. And so they're working
43:18with her temporarily until she gets out of the way.
43:21And she's either going to get out of the way, like Madura was given the chance voluntarily,
43:25or you're going to be taken out.
43:27And so that is what the Venezuelan people want.
43:29That is what they've been crying out for help.
43:31And the father says, you know, they come into your house, they lock you up.
43:35They put you in, they tie you up, excuse me, they tie you up.
43:38You cannot move.
43:39You need help from the exterior.
43:41You need to help from outside.
43:42He's like, that is what the Venezuelan people have been wanting.
43:45We have been put, taken into captive in our own country, unable to leave, unable to prosper,
43:51unable to do anything in regards to freedom.
43:54We need somebody from the outside in the United States because we are in this hemisphere because
43:58of them on the road doctrine.
43:59They have come in and they are glorifying God for it.
44:02They're praising the Lord.
44:04He even provided, I'm sorry, yeah.
44:05He was Christian, you're praising the Lord throughout.
44:07He even provided a little bit of a history lesson in explaining the need for external
44:12assistance when you've been subjugated by your own government.
44:14You want to say a little bit about that?
44:15Yes, the concept of sovereignty.
44:17So they keep saying, we evaluated the sovereignty of the Venezuelans and this father, this man
44:21says, you know, it's interesting because they keep saying sovereignty sovereignty, but we
44:25have lost the sovereignty.
44:27The sovereignty belongs to the people of Venezuela.
44:30We have lost it.
44:31There is no sovereignty.
44:32There's no, there's no national agreement of leave us alone.
44:36We are one people in Venezuela.
44:37No, we are being oppressed by our own government.
44:40So it even harken to the fact that when the United States of America and our founding era,
44:46when the USA founders were being oppressed by England, that the United States actually,
44:53we had the aid of France in liberating ourselves from the English tyranny.
44:58And whenever there has been kind of tyrannical oppression, there's pretty consistently been
45:02external assistance provided to alleviate the subjugated peoples from that external.
45:07Yeah, he gave the history of Simon Boli-O'R.
45:09So if you hear a lot of the dollar, the currency in Venezuela is called the Bolivar.
45:14So it's from Simon Bolivar, but Simon Bolivar, who was a freedom fighter that helped free a
45:20lot of countries in South America from the Spanish rule.
45:24And he says even Simon Bolivar and his people needed the British to come help against the
45:29Spanish to free the peoples of South America.
45:33Likewise, the Americans needed France.
45:35So he's like, we needed help.
45:36There's no way we could have done it on our own.
45:38guys, they didn't have weapons.
45:39They couldn't have planned a coup and who,
45:41and which I was knew that, right?
45:43Well, you did know that very well.
45:44You don't need the weapons because if I give you,
45:47if I let you have weapons, you can come against me
45:48and rightly so, right?
45:49So they could not have done it on their own.
45:51So, glory to God, this has happened, but it has started.
45:55And honestly, I think it's being done very disciplined
45:57in a very disciplined manner.
45:58Because guys, we have the weaponry,
46:00we have the ability to go in and take over and make this.
46:02Yes, and conquer it like the olden days.
46:05We have the power to do that.
46:06We're not doing that.
46:07because that's not right to do, it's not legal to do.
46:10So we are not doing that.
46:12So I think the three phases that Marco Rubio is explaining
46:15is gonna take place and it's gonna take months
46:18and maybe even a couple of years,
46:20but I think it's the right way to go about it
46:21to help these people.
46:23Now I wanna make a bit of a shift
46:24because I began the program in Ecclesiastes 3,
46:28talking about eternity being set in the hearts of men
46:30and earlier this week on the show,
46:32I was discussing the fact that younger Americans
46:35are beginning to express a desire to return
46:40to what some may say traditional norms
46:42and things of that nature,
46:43but it's a desire for truth that is transcendent
46:45and objective and immutable and enduring.
46:48And I'm immediately thinking about the NBC News poll
46:53that they query 2,970 American voters, specifically voters,
47:00between the ages of 18 and 29
47:03and how they divided them by female voters
47:07who voted for Kackling,
47:08she or she'll never be president at the remix,
47:10males who voted for the Kackler,
47:13females who voted for President Trump
47:15and males who voted for President Trump
47:16and the males who voted for President Trump
47:18were asked a question, which of the following
47:21is important to your personal definition of success
47:23in the males 18 to 29 said having children
47:26was number one for them?
47:27Come on.
47:28It was number one, where females who voted for,
47:33She was never be president, said it was number 11,
47:36and even females who voted for President Trump
47:38ranked it at number six.
47:40So man, we running out of show.
47:43But let me just toss this to you.
47:46What do you think is happening with these younger people,
47:50primarily men at this juncture,
47:51beginning to express a desire for something transcendent,
47:54objective, immutable, and enduring?
47:56And well, it's appropriate that you started,
47:59where you started in the scriptures in the first segment,
48:02because Paul reminds us as well in Romans,
48:05he says that they show the work of the law
48:08written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness,
48:10and their thoughts, alternately accusing or also defending them.
48:14So the law of God has been written in man's hearts
48:17from the beginning.
48:18In all men, not just Israel in the Old Testament,
48:21New Testament, Gentiles and Jews.
48:22And so you have the believer who understands that,
48:27but then you have the unbeliever who has that yearning
48:31for freedom, for truth, for purpose,
48:32like you were explaining in the first segment.
48:34So that cannot be quenched.
48:37That's why communism is so evil.
48:38It's so anti-God, right?
48:40It's atheist at its core.
48:42We desire and the men, I'm so grateful
48:44that the men are leading in that
48:46because women are made to help and follow.
48:49And that's not degrading.
48:51That is glorious.
48:53And so if men start leading, young men start leading
48:56in pursuing righteousness,
48:58Because God has put that in them,
48:59and it's being stirred up, women will follow.
49:02You take it to be sufficient to overcome
49:05the feminization propaganda
49:08that young American women have been subjected to.
49:10I think the power of God is what we need to rely on.
49:14I think it wasn't the stone that David used to kill the enemy.
49:17It was the power of God that killed the enemy, the giant.
49:21So yes, God can do that.
49:23See why I married this woman?
49:26Thank you.
49:27That is very helpful for me,
49:28and I pray it's also helpful for our audience here.
49:31You've been listening to the Hamilton Corner,
49:33stay tuned because we're going there in 2026, y'all.
49:37Rock with us.
49:39The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast
49:42may not necessarily reflect those
49:44of the American Family Association or American Family Radio.

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