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0:33Well, good evening everybody.
0:35Alex McFarland here, very honored to be with you tonight
0:38on the American Family Radio Network.
0:40Special, special day, special week.
0:42We're heading towards Thanksgiving.
0:44And on my heart are all things about this wonderful country
0:48and how much we have to be thankful for.
0:50And I'm so excited because we've got a great show.
0:53Later on in the show tonight, we have attorney Richard Harris
0:57of the Truth and Liberty Foundation,
0:59who's been very instrumental in getting out the conservative vote.
1:04But here in this first segment, I'm so excited because a number of years ago,
1:10I got a book called A Patriots Guide to American History.
1:13And I've cherished that book.
1:15I've read it.
1:16I've quoted from it on hundreds of stages across America.
1:20And the author is Dr. Larry Schweichert, who is an author and professor,
1:25and himself, truly, a patriot.
1:28And he is, I've just been kind of a fan for years,
1:32and it's always a privilege we've had him
1:33on the era of time or two.
1:35He's with us tonight, Dr. Larry Schweichert,
1:38prolific author and great American himself.
1:43Sir, welcome to the program.
1:45I'm good to be here.
1:47Let's make sure we always get our title right.
1:50It's a Patriots history of the United States.
1:53Our competitors are the politically incorrect guide.
1:56So I always want to make sure people know we ain't no guide.
1:59We are the history.
2:00We're the whole thing.
2:01Amen. Well, thank you.
2:03A Patriots history of the United States.
2:06Yes.
2:07Now you are or were on the faculty
2:10University of Ohio at Dayton.
2:12Is that right?
2:14Yeah, Dayton is the University of Dayton,
2:17which is a Marianist Catholic school.
2:19I left in 2016.
2:22I retired and we moved to Arizona
2:24as we had planned to do from day one when I got my job there.
2:28I don't want to see any more snow.
2:30Don't particularly care for rain.
2:32I'll take it once maybe every 40 or 50 days.
2:35But I don't want snow.
2:36I don't want ice and I don't want cold.
2:38Yeah.
2:39Well, very, very good.
2:42I've got to ask, how did you come to write?
2:45Really, I don't even want to say the conservative history,
2:48but really what I would say is the true history
2:51of our nation.
2:52What led you into this work that you do?
2:56Well, around 1991 or so, I was attending a Western History
3:01Conference.
3:02I met my future co-author Michael Allen.
3:06And we and several other people were
3:09crabbing about how few very good textbooks there were
3:14that we could rely on.
3:15And we were as teachers and instructors
3:18having to constantly teach against the text,
3:22which you hate to do.
3:23You hate to always have to be, you know,
3:25this paragraph isn't exactly right.
3:27And you spend more time doing that
3:29than you do actually teaching.
3:31So toward the end of the 90s,
3:34I tested out a book to see if I could do it right
3:38in the history of American business
3:40from beginning to end called the Entrepid Neural Adventure.
3:43And it did all right.
3:45And so I thought, okay, we can do this.
3:46So I asked Mike if he would co-author with me
3:49because he's much stronger in colonial,
3:52in the Mississippi River Valley in the early West,
3:56and the far West.
3:58And so we started working on this,
4:02and we didn't think we would get a publisher.
4:04We thought we would have to sell it out of the back of a van,
4:07like contraband in California,
4:09you know, those plastic straws,
4:11or you know, buddy plastic straw,
4:13Patriot's History in the United States.
4:16But we did get a publisher,
4:19The kind of interesting thing is that Mike and I wrote the whole book without ever physically
4:24meeting again until the book was already done.
4:27We wrote the whole thing by email and phone.
4:32It was about double the size of what it is now.
4:37I'm sure if you have a copy handy, you know it's a thousand page book.
4:41Well when we turned it over to the publisher it was a two thousand page book and we have
4:45no, that's not going to work.
4:46You're going to have to cut some stuff here.
4:48So we whittled it down to a mere 947 pages of which about 40 pages are in notes and sort
4:55of...
4:56A mere pamphlet?
4:57Yeah, yeah.
4:59It's just barely a pamphlet.
5:01And it did really well and we got good reviews from everybody, including Rush Limbaugh, Heritage
5:06Foundation, and all those guys.
5:09And then in 2010, after I'd written some other books, I was on Glenn Beck's show when Glenn
5:14had a national audience of 3.5 million equal to what Tucker Carlson had when he was at Fox.
5:22And I gave him a copy of the book and it was clear that he had never read it and he goes,
5:26I know this book. Do I know this book? Well, no. Clearly somebody gives you a copy and go,
5:31oh, this is a great book. So I knew he hadn't read it. Well, he read it over the weekend and he
5:36came back with a vengeance and he began holding it up three and four and five times a night in his
5:42show saying this is the best history book ever written, you got to get this. And it went
5:46straight to the top of the New York Times list, which if you know anything about publishing,
5:52six years after a book is published for it to again hit number one on the New York Times
5:57is pretty astounding.
5:59A miracle, yes.
6:00Yeah. And we're now in our 45th printing of a book that we didn't even think we'd get a
6:06publisher for.
6:08Well to God be the glory. I want to read a quote. I've used it many times. It's a great quote
6:15It says quote so many left-wing historians fail to understand what every colonial settler in every Western pioneer understood
6:23Character was tied to liberty liberty to property and the surest way to ensure the presence of good character
6:29Was to keep God at the center of one's life community ultimately nation
6:34Separation of church and statement, freedom to worship, not freedom from worship.
6:38It went back to that link between liberty and responsibility, and no one could be taken seriously
6:44who was not responsible to God.
6:47That is a magnificent paragraph there, brother.
6:52And why do you think, to your starting premise, so many left-wing historians fail to understand
7:01and the role of God and morality in the building of our nation, why do the left-wing historians
7:08fail to understand that in your opinion?
7:12They don't want to.
7:13It's an uncomfortable message for them.
7:17I mean, you look at Massachusetts and Massachusetts was nothing but a congregationalist, Puritans,
7:24pilgrims, they had the state pay the salaries of various ministers and so on and so forth.
7:32It was only much later that you started to get a separation of church and state that Jefferson
7:39wanted in a letter, but he never even put that into policy.
7:44And yet somehow that line from a letter has kind of become a national requirement here that
7:51we.
7:52I think we're now seeing, thanks to people like Charlie Kirk and others, a return to the notion that
8:00America really needs God at its center. That doesn't mean there can't be non-Christian religions in this
8:07country. It means that you keep first things first and the first things first is this is a
8:13Christian, mostly Protestant country from its origins. Yeah, Charlie was with me in one of my
8:21conferences two and a half weeks before he got shot. And how did how did the well
8:28first let me ask you this Dr. Schweiker did you know Charlie Kirk were you and he
8:32colleagues? I met him and we talked and we texted quite a bit. His headquarters of
8:39course is here in Phoenix where I am but hang out a lot he was a busy guy with
8:45his own organization Turning Point USA to build. Sure. And I have more than a
8:51few things to do. So I don't normally get together with people unless I see them at conferences
8:57or speeches. That's how I came to know Victor. It was Hanson, for example.
9:02How did Charlie's death impact you? What went through your mind is that news coverage was
9:07rolling out September 10th. You know, it was strange. My heart wasn't burdened afterwards.
9:17Obviously, I know he's in a good place. I didn't think his message would suffer, but it will change
9:24I think anyone who thinks they're going to
9:28Replace Charlie Kirk need to take a look at what happened to Andrew Breitbart
9:34He was never replaced at Breitbart for what he did
9:39Rush Limbaugh he was never replaced by anybody
9:43So what everybody ought to be looking for is not quote another Charlie Kirk but a
9:51very different approach that might be Kirk like in its impact but you know
10:00you don't don't fight the same war all over again and there's gonna be changes
10:05and and that's just the way the the whole system works.
10:11How concerned are you about the endless mantra about our democracy, this, our democracy, that,
10:20our democracies in trouble, Trump threatens it?
10:24We don't have a democracy.
10:27Yeah.
10:28No, we have a representative republic which puts up layers in between the people and the
10:39the representatives of government.
10:41And this was done for a very specific reason.
10:45You're probably familiar with John Adams' quotation
10:48about this constitution was only designed
10:51for the godly, and I forget his exact words,
10:55but it was for godly people who understand God,
10:58so and so forth.
10:59Yes.
11:00That's not right.
11:01Our constitution was designed entirely with sinners in mind.
11:06It was set up with so many checks and balances and separation of powers.
11:12It didn't trust anybody.
11:15Our document is not one that says that we assume the people are going to act the right
11:18way and so we don't need to build in any safeguards.
11:21Oh no, it was just the opposite.
11:23It said we assume people are going to be jerks and we're going to have to find a way
11:28to protect some people against other people all the time.
11:32So they broke up the government both in different branches,
11:38executive legislative judicial, in different term limits,
11:43congressman two years, Senator six years, president four years,
11:48between federal, state, and local governments,
11:52and essentially the people.
11:55So the ways in which they built in firewalls and safeguards
12:01against man's sinfulness. It says so much more than Adam's comment, which I know that's what he
12:08wished had happened, but that wasn't the state of America at the time. Heck, even the pilgrims,
12:13when they came over, half of their number weren't Puritans, weren't pilgrims. They were strangers.
12:20And so it's amazing that our founders understood this. They said, look, everybody's not going to be
12:26a good person. We need to design a system so that it prevents the worst of us from abusing
12:33the system.
12:35What was it that James Madison quote that if men were angels, no government would be
12:39nessus. But see that's one of the geniuses of not only conservatism conservatism, but the
12:46founders, they understood human nature that were not angels, were sinners.
12:53And you know, you always end up at some point getting into well, so-and-so on slaves,
12:58George Washington owns slaves, whatever. And the interesting thing about all the founders,
13:04they all wanted slavery to go away in the general sense, in the kind of utopian sense.
13:13Gee, we wish slavery would just go away. But none of them wanted, and this kind of reflects
13:19on our humanity and our own inability to be perfect, none of them was willing to take
13:25the hit to, well, okay, I'm going to get rid of all my slaves. I'm not even going to sell
13:30them. I'm going to give them their freedom and whatever. And it just shows you how difficult
13:36it is for people, even with good intentions, to make long lasting changes in our structure.
13:45Didn't the first draft of the declaration, Jefferson's first draft though called for the abolition of slavery?
13:55It did, and it blamed King George for that, which wasn't exactly kosher. That wasn't exactly right. It wasn't exactly what happened.
14:06And Franklin urged him to take it out because he said that we were still attempting to get the British people and even Parliament on our side at that time.
14:21And he didn't want essentially to blame the British people and say, you gave us slavery, sort of like Adam in the garden saying to God, you know, well this woman you gave me, she caused me to eat apple.
14:34Apple.
14:35Hold that thought.
14:36Alex McFarlane here, we're talking with Dr. Larry Schweikert, a Patriots history of the United
14:41States.
14:4248 liberal lies.
14:43You probably learned it in high school.
14:45So many more great books.
14:47More with Dr. Schweikert plus attorney Richard Harris on this edition of the program.
14:52Stay tuned.
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17:06Shining light into the darkness.
17:08This is the Hamilton Corner, an American family radio.
17:13Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner,
17:14Alex McFarland, very honored to be sitting in
17:17for attorney pastor journalist, Abe Hamilton III.
17:20And doubly honored to be talking with somebody
17:23that I've admired for a lot of years,
17:25Dr. Larry Schweichert, he's a prolific author.
17:28And I love this URL, Wild World of History.
17:33Is that your, Dr. Schweiker, is that your predominant website?
17:38It is, you know, when I retired and came out to Arizona, I was planning to retire.
17:44And I was looking to turn Patriots history into a film series like The Chosen, still
17:50am.
17:51I'm still working on that.
17:52But I got put in touch with somebody that one thing led to another and before long,
17:57he says, well, you know, you don't have a curriculum on, why don't you get a curriculum
18:00up while we're working on this film?
18:03So I took the time to put together a full curriculum for high schoolers in US and world
18:08history, each is a year long curriculum.
18:11I just finished one called Good Government, which is a one semester civics course.
18:17And by the end of spring, I'll have one called Good Economics, which will be the kind of book
18:22into that in economics course.
18:24Anyway, Wild World of History has more than just curriculum.
18:29We have all sorts of free stuff, vignettes and so forth.
18:33We have a site for what we call our VIPs, which for a small annual subscription you can get
18:40ongoing video content.
18:42In fact, my latest video series isn't quite finished yet, but it is available.
18:47It's called Integrity with Billy Graham.
18:50It's the story of Billy Graham.
18:52And the one before that was called Integrity with Winston Churchill.
18:56I did 21 video episodes on the life of Winston Churchill.
19:00So it's an all around great place.
19:01If you're more into politics, you wanna hear what I have
19:04to say about voter registration or stuff like that,
19:06go over to the wild world of politics.
19:09Speaking of politics, what do you think the implications
19:14of Mom Donnie's mayoral victory are, and first of all,
19:20I question whether he'll be able to deliver on all of these,
19:24pine the sky promises he made to the voters of new york but
19:28uh...
19:28a muslim
19:30socialist
19:31mayor of the thirteenth largest economy in the world new york city
19:35uh... what's larry schweicher to take on all that
19:40well number one you're right he won't be able to deliver on everything
19:44uh... he even has to get approval i think from new york state
19:49cathie hokal
19:50uh... to
19:52imposed taxes and so forth on various things. He's gonna have to raise a ton of revenue to cover all these
19:59Promises that he's made and my guess is that every attempt he makes to raise more revenue
20:05more businesses are gonna flee New York City and
20:09There's a chance that it could become a kind of
20:13Detroit for finance the way Detroit has become Detroit for automobiles
20:18But we'll see. I think it was inevitable. Okay. So you can mark me down here. It's what? November 24th, right?
20:27Right. He's gonna run for president in 2028. I think he will be their nominee in 2028. And you know what?
20:35I was on a show earlier today and I said this. I said, you know, I can virtually guarantee he's he's in the bullpen
20:44been groomed for a 28 or 32 run. And the person interviewing me quickly said, yeah, but he
20:51was born in Uganda, which he was. And I said, well, so what does that mean to the Democrats?
21:00Exactly. When have Democrats obeyed any rule that didn't suit them? Now, what they would do is
21:07nominate him and dare the Republicans, number one, and the courts, number two, to stop him.
21:14And would they do it? I don't know. The courts have been a lot better recently,
21:19especially those that have any of Trump's appointees in them. But we saw just today how a rogue
21:26goon spoon judge out there can just suddenly take out the indictments of Comey and Letitia James.
21:35So we have a lot of these people to fight our way through
21:38before we can get a system that is really going to do
21:41what needs to be done.
21:46You know, I feel so privileged to have you
21:49to ask any question, you know.
21:53Where do you think Barack Obama was born?
21:57I think he was probably born in Kenya.
22:03Yeah, and you know.
22:04But I'm not sure.
22:06I know and of course the narrative is that he was born in Hawaii.
22:11Although I think and I'm not I mean we're so beyond this as a moot point now but it was
22:18pretty compelling and not the least of which was that he came here as an exchange student
22:23and applied for scholarships as a Kenyan citizen.
22:28Yeah.
22:29Yeah.
22:30That being the case.
22:33I'm so concerned for our country.
22:35And look, I'm a Christian.
22:37My home is in heaven.
22:38I know that.
22:39But it grieves me the way that the woke DEI left-wing globalist ideologues will break
22:50the rules, been the rules, circumvent the law.
22:54I guess the final question, I'd love your opinion.
22:57How concerned are you that lawlessness and skirting the rules will just, there'll be
23:06a tipping point and now going back to restoring the rule of law and preserving our Constitution?
23:13Well, probably the tipping point would come the other direction, which is that people
23:18get so fed up of murders in Chicago and of trans people doing stuff in elementary schools.
23:28that they will gravitate towards somebody
23:32who's they always say Trump's an authoritarians.
23:35They would gravitate towards somebody a hundred times worse than him.
23:38That's the real danger.
23:41The danger is that we have enough time for me to get into this.
23:45Sure, sure. We've got about a minute, minute and a half, sir.
23:48Okay, so the real danger is that starting in the 90s,
23:52Congress became totally incapable of doing its job.
23:56It would not impeach Clinton who clearly violated the Constitution.
24:01It has not, from the most part, produced budgets.
24:04Yeah, we finally got a budget bill.
24:06Now we're coming up on January 10th and they're supposed to start another one and it's going to start all over again.
24:13The two impeachments of Trump were ludicrous and horrific uses of that power.
24:19Well, when you use powers willy-nilly without any relevance to justice, people start to turn
24:28you off.
24:29And I think the House of Representatives is very close to being irrelevant.
24:33And I think the Senate is not far behind them.
24:36And Trump is now conducting foreign policy by truth, social, because the media so hopelessly
24:42corrupt uses that why go through them.
24:44I'll just put it out there on truth and let, you know, Venezuela or Russia or whoever
24:48read it right from the horse's mouth. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. It really is amazing.
24:55And that's why I got to say I think Donald Trump is the greatest president of our lifetime. And
25:01and I revere Ronald Reagan. Yeah, yeah, I have Reagan number three all time. You had Washington
25:08and Lincoln, Coolidge number four and Trump number six behind Grover Cleveland. But if he completes
25:15his term as expected and the last three years or as good as the first year he would move up
25:21to number four of all time. Number one being whom? George Washington. Of course. Of course.
25:29We got a visit again. Dr. Larry Schweichert. I know you've one last thing I'll let you. I know
25:35you've got like book deals on your website, a Black Friday deal. Yes, we've got four different
25:40Black Friday book deals on the Wild World of History website.
25:45In addition to some regular package deals, our book deals always include autographed books
25:50that we ship to you.
25:52So check it out.
25:53If you need a curriculum for a high schooler in either US or world history, it's there.
26:00God bless you sir.
26:01I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving and keep on doing all that you do for God in
26:05country.
26:07Thank you very much.
26:08That voice is Dr. Larry Schweikert, Alex McFarland here, and this is the American Family Radio
26:13Network.
26:14I'm going to segue a little bit.
26:16Very exciting this week to Thanksgiving week, so much for which to be grateful.
26:21But a friend, we haven't had him on nearly enough in recent months, but he is a colleague
26:28and friend.
26:29It's Richard Harris.
26:31He's an attorney, a pastor.
26:33He's the leader of the Truth in Liberty, broadcast Truth in Liberty Coalition.
26:38And he is also the leader of practical government,
26:41which is really the political science arm
26:44of Karis Bible College,
26:46where I have the privilege of teaching.
26:48And Richard Harris, thank you for making time to be with us
26:51tonight on AFR.
26:54Hey, Alex, it's great to be with you as always.
26:57Good to be with you.
26:58And sorry, it's been so long.
27:00For those that may be unaware, tell us about truth
27:04and liberty and what all you're doing there these days.
27:08Yeah, well, truth and liberty, you know, Alex,
27:11we exist to unify, mobilize,
27:14and educate the body of Christ
27:17to stand for truth in the public square.
27:19And we do that in lots of different ways.
27:21One of the ways is we have a show that's twice a week,
27:25Arizona, social media channels,
27:28and our website at truthandliberty.net,
27:31as well as CTN, where we interview Christian leaders
27:34from all levels, so the local sheriff,
27:36all the way up to Congressman to inform the body of Christ
27:40about what's going on in the organizations
27:42that are out there doing great things.
27:44But we do our own advocacy as well,
27:47issuing blog releases, press interviews,
27:50all kinds of that sort of thing.
27:52And you can catch all this information
27:54on our website at truthandliberty.net.
27:56We've got an annual conference that we do
27:58as well as a banquet.
27:59And last year in Colorado,
28:01we just printed distributed over a million voter guides
28:05for school board elections there.
28:08And gosh, we just, we're just doing everything we can
28:11to turn America back to God.
28:13Amen, praise God.
28:14You know, I'm so encouraged to hear all this, Richard.
28:18And, you know, I think about yourself and others,
28:21I've met people that are everything from, you know,
28:25regional podcasters to people, churches
28:29that are distributing voter guides
28:32and registering voters and doing almost civics classes.
28:38For all of the bad news and the disconcerting news,
28:42there are some things to be encouraged about, aren't there?
28:46Oh, absolutely.
28:50What you just said reminds me of Elisha's words
28:54to his servant when they were surrounded on the hillside.
28:58He said, they that be with us
29:00are more than they that be with them.
29:02And I think sometimes we don't realize
29:05that there are millions of born again,
29:09Bible believing Christians in this nation
29:11who are praying daily and thousands and thousands
29:16who are working hard to turn America back.
29:19And I think we're having an impact.
29:21The latest statistics are very encouraging
29:25as the younger generations are returning to church.
29:29There's indications they're returning
29:31to family and family values,
29:35wanting marriage and children and these kinds of things.
29:40So I think Gen Z is the best hope for America.
29:43Well, Christ is our best hope,
29:45but Gen Z is certainly a reason for optimism.
29:49Sure.
29:50Well, the recent elections, you know,
29:53now several weeks back,
29:55and of course the big news mom, Donnie's win in New York.
30:00work. And there were a lot of Democrat wins across America. Give us your, you know, take
30:08on that. How concerned are you that there's going to be this pendulum swing back away
30:16from, you know, Trumpism and conservatism back to the the reins of power in the hands
30:24of Democrats? Well, Alex, I am concerned. You know, it was a little unsettling to see the margin of
30:32victory, to see candidates, not just mom Donnie in New York, who's an avowed socialist Islamic
30:40socialist and probably a communist, but also the Attorney General in Virginia, Attorney General
30:46elect, who was elected despite statements that he made that were just absolutely horrible,
30:53condemnable and everything about wanting to see the speaker of the House of Virginia
30:59shot three times in the head of the bullet and his children dying his mother's arms.
31:03So it makes you wonder how far gone is the Democratic Party in this nation and I think they're very,
31:11very far gone. But at the same time, it's normal to have a sort of recoil after a big presidential
31:21when your Republicans got the White House and the Senate and the House of Representatives.
31:26And it's normal to have a recoil rebound. The big factor in these elections, I think,
31:33is the economy. I think people are really feeling the pinch of inflation. Jobs' growth
31:39has been there, but it's not quite as strong as what people need. The wage growth has not
31:43been there. And that's what's so people are feeling it financially. And I'm hopeful and
31:49believing that Trump's economic policies will begin to kick in and pay off in time for the
31:552026 elections. And so we've also got some redistricting in Texas and other places like
32:01that that should help equal things out. So I think we're going to be okay. We really need
32:08to keep the House of Representatives for Trump's agenda to keep moving forward though.
32:12Yeah, I mean how
32:15detrimental would that be if you know the balance of power shifted in the house
32:20I mean with the last two years of Trump's presidency be kind of lame duck
32:26God forbid a little bit. I mean this also is common you know, it happened to Barack Obama
32:31I I think it happened to you know Joe Biden
32:36It's very common for the house to flip back to the other party in the midterms
32:40So does it totally, you know, stop the president's agenda? No, not totally.
32:46But if he's, if he's smart, he'll get most of his legislative agenda done while he's got both houses.
32:52And I think he's working hard to do that. But after that, you know, it'll be foreign policy, executive orders, appointments, and maybe some legislation, depending upon whether there's a Democrat majority, and if there is how big it is in the house.
33:07Hopefully Republicans will keep the Senate or expand it. But you know, they're they've got some challenges there as well because there's more more
33:15Republicans seats up than there are Democrat by a significant margin, which means that the Republicans are playing more defense than offense. So
33:23We need to be in prayer and we need to be involved and informed and
33:27And really, you know, put everything out there this time around. It's not just every four years. It's every two years at least
33:33Richard Harris is our guest, attorney, leader of Truth in Liberty.
33:38We can take calls too when we come back after this brief break.
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35:12This is David Wheaton, host of The Christian World View.
35:16Theology is the study of God.
35:18The term may sound elitist, but in reality, everyone has beliefs about God.
35:23Question is whether those beliefs accurately represent God based on the standard, his
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35:30But the purpose of theology is far more than increasing knowledge of God, but rather to
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36:24Welcome back to the program Alex McFarland here on this Monday night and you know Thanksgiving
36:30is just days away.
36:31It is our sincere prayer that you and your family just have a blessed Thanksgiving and
36:36we've got so much for which to be grateful, so many things to thank the Lord for.
36:42And we just wish you every blessing.
36:44And for those that are the regular listeners, I hear from so many people, just every week,
36:50letters and emails, people that they express such kind sentiments, their lives deeply touched
36:56by the American Family Radio Network.
36:58We are sincerely grateful for each and every one of you.
37:01I'm also grateful for my longtime friend and colleague,
37:04attorney Richard Harris.
37:06He's also leader of Truth in Liberty,
37:08the School of Practical Government at Harris Bible College,
37:11and just an amazing servant of God and country.
37:16Hey, Richard, before we continue some questions,
37:19tell us your website and where people can watch
37:21Truth in Liberty.
37:23Sure, Alex, and thank you for those really kind words.
37:27Our website at Truth in Liberty is TruthandLiberty.net.
37:31I've also got my own ministry, which websites,
37:34Richard Harris Ministries.com.
37:37But yeah, you can find everything you need at those websites.
37:40You know, you've had so many incredible guests
37:44and I've been on the times that I was on there too.
37:48I mean, we've had everybody on there from, well, once,
37:52this has been several years ago, Alan Dershowitz
37:54and Tony Perkins and people like that,
37:57who are some of the more memorable guests
38:00enjoyed interviewing. Gosh, we've had some great ones. You know, Bob McEwen has been on often.
38:14Let's see, David Barton of course, he's one of our board members but he is just, can't be beat.
38:21And Alan West was on recently. Oh sure. Yeah, and many, many others. Yeah.
38:29Yeah. Yeah.
38:31So.
38:32Dr. Ben Carson.
38:33Yeah.
38:34Wow.
38:35Great.
38:36My cuckabee.
38:37My cuckabee was on just shortly after he was confirmed by the US Senate for Israel ambassador.
38:46He was our guest.
38:48Yeah.
38:50Are you familiar with Trump's appointment for international ambassador at large for religious
38:57freedom?
38:58Mark Walker.
38:59Is that Namingo Bell?
39:01Yes, he does ring a bell.
39:02Yes.
39:03I don't know him personally.
39:05I mean, I have met him once, but I can't say I know him.
39:09But I'm familiar with him.
39:09Do you know if he's been confirmed?
39:12Say that again, I'm sorry.
39:14Do you know if he's been confirmed?
39:18I think he has, but that's not based on much at all, Alex.
39:24So I don't know.
39:25The reason I ask, and I know a number of Trump's appointees,
39:29seem like, you know, they were taking a long time to get confirmed, you know.
39:36But so.
39:37The Democrats were bottlenecking everything for a long time.
39:43And Republicans had to use an extraordinary measure to get all of them through.
39:49I think a lot's been cleared out by now, but I can't speak to Mark Walker for sure.
39:53But he was a really good choice, I believe.
39:56Yeah, what are the stories that concern you most really about? You know, before the break,
40:05we were talking about the economy. And that, I mean, that really does drive the way elections
40:12come out. I've heard so much about how the tariffs are going to raise just lots of revenue,
40:18help pay down the debt that, you know, for the first hundred years of America,
40:23tariffs were like the way that the federal government was funded. But whether it be the
40:29tariffs or other issues, Richard, what things concern you about the health of our nation?
40:39Well, so the biggest threats to America right now are not monetary, although the debt is a
40:50a massive concern. You know, we're 38 trillion now, it's going up what 2 trillion to 3 trillion
40:58a year just by interest. And every time they pass another budget, they add more to it with
41:07the excessive spending. 71% of our spending is on entitlement programs, Medicare, Medicaid,
41:16Social Security and the like, unemployment insurance, and then you add on the interest on the national
41:22debt.
41:23You're talking about about 71% of our national budget on these things.
41:29And so we are definitely in some financial deep, deep waters, and we've got to figure
41:35a way out of it.
41:36But other than that, I think our most urgent issues are not monetary.
41:41I think they're social.
41:43I think that a very large segment of America's population
41:47has now bought into basically Marxist ideology,
41:52LGBT ideology, critical race theory,
41:56and these kinds of things.
41:58And I was watching a report last night on Lara Logan
42:02that was just incredibly disturbing that about Venezuela
42:07and the cartel there,
42:09the camera, the name of something to Solas Cartel,
42:14the largest cartel in the world,
42:15largest criminal enterprise in history,
42:17that has two and a half, $2.7 trillion in wealth
42:20around the world, but they're not just about drugs.
42:23They have, they and the Cuban intelligence agencies
42:26are work hand in glove, and the guests on the show
42:31were commenting about how they have deep, deep penetration
42:34into all America's intelligence agencies,
42:37and that virtually they know everything
42:38that we're doing.
42:39Of course, they're in league with China as well now.
42:41So, but I think Trump's gonna deal with that.
42:44I think he's aware of it probably now.
42:46And I'm hoping that in the process of it,
42:49he's also gonna crack the nut of election integrity.
42:51Cause the fraudulent software behind
42:56on these voting machines,
42:59it was written in Venezuela
43:02and now he's in 27 different nations,
43:04including many, many states in the United States
43:08of America. So I think but culturally, Alex, that's my bottom line. America has to turn
43:12back to God. This socialism is going to will eventually destroy this country and bring it
43:18down if we don't get the upper hand on it. And I think we are, but we've got to keep fighting
43:26and the church has to be energized and engaged.
43:28Sure, sure. Hey, and a totally random here, but doesn't it seem like for about two weeks,
43:35not heard anything about JD Vance. Have you noticed that? Suddenly, no, he kind of, you know,
43:44he sort of like that gopher game. He sort of pops up and then he's, you know, next thing he knows
43:48it here. I don't know what's going on. He probably just is not doing anything. The press is keen on
43:54right now, but he, uh, no, I'm not concerned. I don't have any reason to be concerned about it.
44:01How are your feelings about him as a candidate in 28?
44:08Really good question. I think for me, the jury is still out. There's a lot of things to like about JD Vance.
44:18He testifies to a personal encounter with Christ, although I believe he is Catholic.
44:24But his wife is not a believer, she's Hindu. The scripture says not to be unequally yoked.
44:30And I think we've seen in the past when our political leaders are unequally yoked that it does have an impact on their policy and on their viewpoints and this sort of thing.
44:40But Vance, you know, by all accounts appears to be a real fighter, tough as nails.
44:46I don't think he has the magic, so to speak, that Donald Trump has.
44:51So I don't know if he could win against a popular Democratic candidate.
44:56I really don't.
44:57But you know, we could do a whole lot worse with the presidency than J.D. Vance.
45:04So if he works or prevail, it looks like he's probably going to have Trump's backing and endorsement,
45:09but it's still early, very early.
45:11But if he does, then that would help a lot.
45:15If the Maga Republicans get behind him and he can unite the Republican Party,
45:21then, you know, his challenge is going to be winning over moderate voters.
45:26And I just don't know how he plays in that electorate yet,
45:30in that group of the electorate,
45:31whether they like him or don't like him.
45:33So I think he's got to refine himself in some ways,
45:37in the way he speaks and in his messaging,
45:40because he's sort of uncomfortable in the conservative mode,
45:46speaking and messaging in that vein,
45:48and whether that's gonna be enough to get him the White House.
45:52I sincerely doubt that.
45:54But he's as strong as any of the Republican field right now.
45:59So he's probably, most people probably would count him
46:04as the front runner, but whether he would beat
46:07the Democrat machine, it's way too early to tell.
46:10You mentioned moderate voters.
46:12Does it surprise you given the state of the world
46:15and the absolute polar opposites
46:19that Republicans and Democrats are?
46:21I mean, let's be real.
46:23The Democrat party positions versus Republican, it's two different universes.
46:31Does it surprise you that there could even be moderate voters anymore?
46:36Yeah, you know, I mean, I'm entirely serious.
46:40No, good.
46:41We're talking about castrating children, parents' rights, the murder of the unborn versus a constitutional
46:50republic, how could anyone be moderate in this world but speak to it if you would, Richard?
46:56No, it's a really good question. Yeah, that's a really good question. But I think what you still
47:04have in the middle, if you will, are especially the millennials and younger are voters who
47:10don't affiliate with a party. They don't like parties, they don't trust them, they think they're
47:14bad and destructive. So it gets a little bit tough to label and pigeon hold them as voters.
47:20And you have to ask, well, what are their most important issues?
47:24And so I think there's a lot of people, younger generation, especially, who they may feel like abortion is wrong,
47:34and they may feel like trans surgery on a minor is wrong, but those aren't their motivating issues.
47:40And so you're going to need to appeal to them on other things.
47:43And then they will mix into their ideology a whole lot of wokeism as well.
47:49And so it's, I think we're, the sand is shifting under us,
47:54not just in America, but around the world, Alex.
47:56And I don't think we really have it figured out yet
47:59because it hasn't really settled.
48:01There's a rise of Marxist ideology and godliness
48:06and woke ideology.
48:07And at the same time, there's a great revival that's underway.
48:10And so it's hard to predict the future just yet.
48:14I know that God's gonna win.
48:16as far as elections, I'm not sure. Not sure what in the short term is happening.
48:20Amen. Amen. The Lord will prevail. And that's why we would say to everybody listening, you know,
48:26make sure that number one, this is life's most important decision, folks, that you have accepted
48:32Christ and are born again, that you have a relationship with the one true Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ.
48:39And, you know, we get pretty impassioned and very invested in being salt and light in the culture.
48:46But ultimately, Richard Harris, our guest, our home is not here on this transient world, is it?
48:54It is definitely not on this earth in this age.
48:58Christ is coming, and I think He's coming soon, Alex.
49:01You just wrote a book on 100 questions and answers on end-time prophecy,
49:05and Jesus is coming, the signs are everywhere.
49:08everything is aligning to exactly what was predicted, things that we couldn't even have imagined how it would come true are coming true before our very eyes.
49:15We can see how the mark of the beast, for example, will be executed and many other things.
49:21And so now is the time for people to make a decision when he comes or if perhaps you died before Christ returns, you know, it's too late at that point.
49:30Now is the time.
49:31Jesus died for our sins and was raised from the dead and God loves you.
49:35He wants you saved and in his kingdom for all eternity.
49:37So take advantage at this time now and confess Him as Lord and believe in
49:41in your heart as your Savior and that you will be saved.
49:44We haven't even mentioned this, but talking about end times and the mark of
49:50the beast and things like that.
49:51Last week, the VP of Microsoft said,
49:56if you're not afraid of AI,
49:58you just don't understand the technology.
50:01And you know, Richard, I think about like in the book
50:04of Revelation that this image of the beast
50:08has almost God-like properties that can,
50:12almost deceive even the very elect.
50:15I do think the technology, the shifting political
50:19and moral wins, I think the stage is being set
50:23and it seems like, and of course only God knows,
50:25But it just seems like we've somehow crossed a Rubicon from which there's no turning back,
50:31that the world is heading towards the end times and Christ's inevitable return.
50:37Well, there's no doubt in my mind, Alex.
50:43There's so many signs I don't know what's the most significant, but I think AI probably
50:49is, you know, we had a window of opportunity to rein in that beast, no pun intended, and
50:55we didn't do it.
50:56think it's probably a little bit too late now to try to regulate it. I think Super AI
51:02is around the corner and forget what the third level of basically where the collective
51:10intelligence of all humanity is inferior to AI is not far beyond that. It's growing by
51:17leaps and bounds. Richard, give us your website again before time
51:24fleets away.

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