The Hamilton Corner

September 17, 2025 · 51:49

Guest Host, Alex McFarland, is joined by Pastor Lucas Miles, Senior Director of TPUSA Faith, and Christian Briggs, CEO of Hard Asset Management

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  1. 0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
  2. 0:03It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
  3. 0:07This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
  4. 0:11It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite.
  5. 0:15Delivery people out of the bondage of mainstream media.
  6. 0:18And the philosophies of this world.
  7. 0:20God has called you and me to be His ambassador.
  8. 0:24Even in this dark moment.
  9. 0:26Let's not miss our moment.
  10. 0:29and now the Hamilton Corner. Have you ever heard of blaming the victim? It's really a fallacy and sadly
  11. 0:39in psychology, victim blaming or the abuser blaming the abused is really a type of mental
  12. 0:49manipulation. Hi, Alex McFarland here very honored to be sitting in tonight for Abe Hamilton,
  13. 0:54attorney, pastor, broadcaster, Abe Hamilton, is out tonight and I'm sitting in for him.
  14. 1:01We have a great show. Later on in the show, we'll talk to a longtime friend and colleague,
  15. 1:06Lucas Miles. He is head of TPUSA Faith and he's an author and a Christian leader and very
  16. 1:15much involved with Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA and we'll get some insights from Lucas
  17. 1:20Miles later on in the show. Also in the show, in just a little while, we'll have a word
  18. 1:24from economist Christian Briggs.
  19. 1:27But I want to talk a little bit, and obviously everyone knows,
  20. 1:31I mean, global headlines have been consumed now for one week
  21. 1:35with news of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
  22. 1:38I knew Charlie.
  23. 1:40Over the last four or five years, we had shared the stage
  24. 1:43on several occasions, and it was my great, great privilege
  25. 1:46to get to know him as a friend and a colleague,
  26. 1:49and we had a conference in South Carolina, August 21.
  27. 1:53It would be one of the last non-TPUSA or White House related
  28. 2:01events that he would do.
  29. 2:02He was always doing media and radio and TV interviews.
  30. 2:05But our event, Conversations That Matter,
  31. 2:10a biblical worldview series, it was
  32. 2:13one of the last non-TPUSA events that Charlie Kirk would ever
  33. 2:17do.
  34. 2:18And of course, one week ago today was tragically
  35. 2:21assassinated brutally, viciously, wickedly. I mean, just as Truman Capote would write in
  36. 2:31cold blood. Very sad, very sad. But one of the things, sadly, the left has been many have
  37. 2:40celebrated his death and said that he was a fascist. I mean, all sorts of epithets and
  38. 2:48words. But here's the thing in terms of victim blaming, isn't it funny that in
  39. 2:54merely talking about the U.S. Constitution and our moral foundation and that our
  40. 3:01Constitution was framed on the Judeo-Christian moral foundation. And as
  41. 3:07great leaders like John Adams said, John Adams, our second president said that our
  42. 3:12Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.
  43. 3:17It is wholly inadequate for the governance of any other.
  44. 3:22And they said, oh, you know, not see fascist.
  45. 3:25When in reality, it's the Marxist left that our authoritarianism and dictatorship and
  46. 3:33viewpoint suppression and really controlling the narrative and forbidding honest open debate.
  47. 3:44That's not what Christians and conservatives do, that's what they were doing.
  48. 3:47I thought it was interesting also that in the aftermath of the death of Charlie Kirk, there
  49. 3:52weren't windows being smashed, cars being burned, riots in the streets, but there were
  50. 3:59prayer groups. So it's not the Christians and or conservatives that really are threatening
  51. 4:06the stability and the civility of our country. It's those on the left that don't acknowledge
  52. 4:13God nor moral boundaries. But right now we're going to have a conversation with someone
  53. 4:18that I've just been very impressed with. We've had a couple of on-air conversations. Christian
  54. 4:23Briggs. He is a political analyst, a commentator, an economist and an expert in macro and micro
  55. 4:32economics. He's the CEO of Hard Asset Management Inc. And he's got a program, the Hard Asset Money
  56. 4:40Show. Every conversation I've found him to be most impressive and most insightful. He's with us now.
  57. 4:49Christian, welcome to the American Family Radio Network.
  58. 4:52Well, thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to this. I was so honored to be on your show again.
  59. 4:57Well, thanks very much. It was back in the, I don't know, I guess early to mid-summer that we
  60. 5:03talked. We were talking about the economy and the stock market and such. But right now,
  61. 5:11well, before we go too far, and I've got a number of things I want to ask you, but
  62. 5:15Just give a little of your bio and what you're doing these days with the hard asset management
  63. 5:21group. Well, we're basically a wholesaler and retailer in the precious metals industry, gold,
  64. 5:29silver, and platinum. We also use the economics that we put together about a framework of mathematics
  65. 5:36that put together some kind of a scenario of what's going to happen in the economy with interest rates
  66. 5:41with labor, obviously the jobs numbers have been quite bad here lately.
  67. 5:47So we try to take everything from the macro economics, which is the government end of the
  68. 5:51economy down to the micro, which is really the privatization of all of the companies,
  69. 5:57whether it's a large scale, mid or small scale.
  70. 5:59We put all that together and we try to formulate something that gives an outcome on the movement
  71. 6:04of metals.
  72. 6:05And that's why we made a huge call about five years ago now.
  73. 6:08It's actually been about five years this fall.
  74. 6:10Well, we thought that the numbers of which the COVID was suppressing or hurting the economy
  75. 6:16was something we should look at for precious metals.
  76. 6:19So that's what we do is we look at two things.
  77. 6:21We look at the economics that are viable at the time and then we try to put together about
  78. 6:26a three to five year by the actual outlook.
  79. 6:29We advise members of Congress on various policies and we're advising some things now in
  80. 6:33October that we're going to be submitting to the White House on some stuff.
  81. 6:36So that's what we do.
  82. 6:37We do sell the metals themselves, but we try to make sure that the information behind the
  83. 6:42reasoning is conclusive and not just theoretical.
  84. 6:47You know, there are some economic and political questions that I want to get into, but, you
  85. 6:52know, since this has been such just a blow to all people, the death of Charlie Kirk.
  86. 6:59I want to get your thoughts on that.
  87. 7:00I mean, even Bill Maher, the atheist liberal Bill Maher, he, I watched him over the weekend
  88. 7:07with Ben Shapiro and even Bill Maher was saying this was, he said probably the nicest
  89. 7:14person that I ever had as a guest on my show. And I mean, he was really fighting back emotion
  90. 7:19and Bill Maher, and I'm not saying this out of any love necessarily, ideologically for Bill
  91. 7:24Maher, because politically and spiritually we're absolute opposites. But as a human being, I
  92. 7:29mean, he was fighting back emotion. He said, I just can't get past this. So this is touched
  93. 7:36everybody. What are your thoughts? If you would from last Wednesday when the news broke to even
  94. 7:43right now having had a week to sort of reflect on this as we all have, Christian, your analysis
  95. 7:51of what happened last week at the college in Utah? Well, first it goes beyond the words of tragedy.
  96. 8:00I don't think they'll ever be a word that will express my deepest hurt. And I knew Charlie,
  97. 8:05I had spent a week with him not on and off, on and off, but not every minute at the Republican
  98. 8:10Convention last year.
  99. 8:11I was there for about a week and I had run into them a number of times.
  100. 8:15We had some great conversations.
  101. 8:16I kept in touch with some of his people because they had asked me if I wanted to speak at various
  102. 8:21conferences and the timing and the schedule never really worked out.
  103. 8:25I was really disappointed even before the accident.
  104. 8:28And so I look at it from this standpoint.
  105. 8:30I think what you have is you have homegrown ideology that all started with Obama.
  106. 8:35I mean, if we really want to get into the depths of what's going on here, this transgender
  107. 8:39movement, whether we want to pick it apart or we want to push it up to the side, it needs
  108. 8:45to be addressed at some point, okay, because this is starting to become too much.
  109. 8:50And at the same time, when you look at the transform of what Charlie was trying to do,
  110. 8:55especially at the college level, at the young kids level, to try to transform them from
  111. 9:00anything that would steer them in the wrong direction to give them the great advice to maybe look
  112. 9:05Look this direction if you're if you're hurting or if you're looking for something if there's a void in your life
  113. 9:10Come this way. I think there's a better answer than constantly trying to
  114. 9:15Run in circles and maybe look to things that aren't gonna satisfy the soul
  115. 9:19And now you have such a great person
  116. 9:22And I would agree with the he's part of the nicest person I've ever met
  117. 9:26I mean, he was always gracious and if you wanted to talk to him, he made time for you.
  118. 9:31So now fast towards it today, we've got a number of people that have kind of taken the
  119. 9:37reins and the seats, if you will, for the show.
  120. 9:40Now, my question is this, and I've asked this before, especially on this topic, is Charlie's
  121. 9:49legacy with turning point to continue the young campus, the young people's campus crusade
  122. 9:58for Christ, will it still be as effective with some of the new people that have been appointed
  123. 10:04to take a lot of the position over the show like Beyett Shapiro and others of the Jewish
  124. 10:10community.
  125. 10:11And I asked the point, I've asked the question with people in the last few days, is it a rabbi
  126. 10:17that's trying to help or to preach to the Baptist Church or to the Christian community
  127. 10:23because Enobens appears on the record saying, you know, I'm a Jewish by faith and the Christianity
  128. 10:30is something that's nice but I don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah.
  129. 10:33So I beg the question and again this is just an open forum for conversation.
  130. 10:38Are the people that are being put into the position to lead from an ideology, a theoretical
  131. 10:45standpoint, the right people that can convey the message with a heartfelt, felt passion.
  132. 10:53Because it's hard to say that, hey, look, I love this deal, I love this, or when you're
  133. 10:57not truly in love, like with the Holy Spirit, right?
  134. 11:01We love Jesus.
  135. 11:02So you're led by the Spirit because that's out of love.
  136. 11:05So I beg the question, and maybe these people can continue the legacy and the momentum of
  137. 11:11what it stood for, the turning point.
  138. 11:14I would think that a more warranted person would be somebody from the Christian community
  139. 11:19that would be more of the leadership of that messaging, especially when you want to go to
  140. 11:24these campuses. If I was there and Ben Shapiro was talking and I'll ask the question. Ben,
  141. 11:32can you give us your testimony? Can you let us know when Christ fills your heart with the Holy
  142. 11:37Spirit and how does one answer that? Who doesn't believe that Jesus is in the Messiah? The Son of God.
  143. 11:44Yeah, so it's an interesting topic. I mentioned this with a few people because people have called me said
  144. 11:49What's your thoughts on bench appear on this other people that are all from the Jewish community running turning point?
  145. 11:54And I said well, I'm glad you asked because it is something that I would have to tell you
  146. 12:00I would be a little hesitant to say that that's going to be the best place position or
  147. 12:06persons in that in that
  148. 12:09that continuation of the messaging because how is it that somebody can race a car that's
  149. 12:15never even been in a car before?
  150. 12:17Yeah, exactly.
  151. 12:18Exactly.
  152. 12:19And that's one of the things that was so great about Charlie Kirk was that he was equally
  153. 12:24gifted in explaining political issues, moral issues, but then he could segue to the gospel.
  154. 12:31In fact, August 21, when we had him in our speaker series, he said, and I'm quoting, he
  155. 12:38He said, politics is boring.
  156. 12:39I speak about politics because I have to.
  157. 12:42The most exciting topic is new life in Jesus.
  158. 12:45And he told an audience of people from 17 states came and he said, look, if you've never given
  159. 12:52your life to Christ, that's the message.
  160. 12:55He said, I'll tell you how to be saved.
  161. 12:57Alex can tell you, but don't leave here without a personal relationship to Jesus if you haven't
  162. 13:03made that commitment already.
  163. 13:05But yeah, I mean, we love Ben Shapiro.
  164. 13:08I've interviewed Ben Shapiro when I worked for James Dobbs and folks on the family.
  165. 13:13We had Ben Shapiro on the radio.
  166. 13:16And I want to be clear, kind of harkens back, I'm old enough to remember Jerry Falwell's
  167. 13:21moral majority.
  168. 13:23And people faulted Jerry Falwell about linking arms with Jews, non-Christians, but people
  169. 13:31who believed in objective morality and the US Constitution, and Falwell would always say,
  170. 13:38well the moral majority is not a gospel evangelistic initiative. It's an initiative to try to preserve
  171. 13:46morals, which is the foundation of the US Constitution. So, turning point, I'm with you, we need to
  172. 13:53pray that that organization will stay on point with not just conservative constitutionalism,
  173. 14:00the gospel itself. We got to take a brief break. Can you hang on just a few more minutes into
  174. 14:05the next segment, Christian?
  175. 14:07Yeah, I'm here as long as you need me.
  176. 14:10All right. Hey, as we segue into this break, give your website if you would, please. Christian.
  177. 14:19Oh, yeah, part of the economy. Yeah, as far as like what the going with the interest rates
  178. 14:23your website. Oh, my website. Yeah, BMC, H.A.M. dot com. BMC, ham dot com. Okay, DMC,
  179. 14:31If you want to follow me on X, it's BMC underscore ham.
  180. 14:36BMC underscore ham.
  181. 14:38Mm-hmm.
  182. 14:39On X, AKA Twitter.
  183. 14:41Stay tuned, Alex McFarland here more on this edition of The Hamilton Corner after this brief break.
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  187. 15:05He's a guiding shepherd.
  188. 15:06He's a restoring shepherd.
  189. 15:08He's a present shepherd.
  190. 15:10He's an almighty shepherd.
  191. 15:12A comforting shepherd, a protecting shepherd, an anointing shepherd, a shepherd that can be
  192. 15:18trusted and an eternal shepherd as well.
  193. 15:22Father, thank you for being our good and great shepherd, a shepherd that helps us in every
  194. 15:28area of our life.
  195. 15:29Father, anoint the mind's ears, heart and understanding of every listener with a fresh
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  214. 17:05Shiting life into the darkness, this is the Hamilton Quarter, an American family radio.
  215. 17:10Welcome back to the program, Alex McFarland. We've got Christian Briggs on the line and
  216. 17:16Christian, thanks for making time to be with us. I want to talk about the economy because
  217. 17:23I mean, there's so many things in the news that really kind of seem conflicting. So let's
  218. 17:30talk about the GDP and the NASDAQ and I want some of your insights on this.
  219. 17:40about the reality of things, not what you think is going to happen with the Federal Reserve cutting the Fed funds rate.
  220. 17:50See, people don't realize that the Fed's funds rate is the rate that banks borrow from the Federal Reserve to be able to take that money, whether it's a million dollars or a billion dollars, they put that money into the system for lending.
  221. 18:06Okay, so right now you've got Fed funds rate of 3.75 to 4%. So banks will buy the money,
  222. 18:12then they put that money on the street at like say 8% and 9% for car loans, 7.5 to 7% for mortgages,
  223. 18:19and so on. See, the problem that you have is, and I'm going to be very analytic because math is the
  224. 18:26only science that you cannot fudge. People lie, but math does not. So I'm going to be very analytical.
  225. 18:33All right, so let's be analytic.
  226. 18:34I want everyone who's listening to write this down
  227. 18:36because it's very important.
  228. 18:38About a week and a half ago, when I was talking
  229. 18:41to a member of Congress, trying to explain to them
  230. 18:43that Trump's pressure on the Federal Reserve
  231. 18:46is not of just about interest rates being lower.
  232. 18:48He wants to dismantle the Federal Reserve.
  233. 18:51He wants to get rid of it and then make stable coins
  234. 18:54through the Genius Act and the corporations and banks
  235. 18:57that have the authorization to issue those, the new dollar.
  236. 19:00Okay, so we're going to be fully digital at some point.
  237. 19:02And some people think before Trump,
  238. 19:03Lee Lee's office will be full digital cash to society.
  239. 19:06And we may be, that's a possibility.
  240. 19:08But in the near term, when the Federal Reserve
  241. 19:11was trying to tell Trump that the bond market
  242. 19:14is the real showing of real rates bond market, okay?
  243. 19:18Whether it's the five year, the 10, the 2030,
  244. 19:20those are the real interest rates that we pay from.
  245. 19:24Banks set the rates based on what the bonds are doing,
  246. 19:27and then they try to make as much of the margin they can
  247. 19:30from the feds where they borrow it to the individual that they sell it to for whatever
  248. 19:35loan they were trying to do.
  249. 19:36We made a very clear comment last week where we broadcast and we told both members in DC
  250. 19:43as well as other economists that we are going to tell you now that at the Federal Reserve
  251. 19:47lowers rates, 25 basis points, it'll actually make both mid and long term rates go up.
  252. 19:56People thought it was crazy because they said that there was a slowing economy.
  253. 19:59I said, I don't doubt this long economy from a hiring perspective, but we have a growing
  254. 20:06economy from a GDP expansion perspective.
  255. 20:10And they said, how can that be?
  256. 20:11Because productivity dictates labor.
  257. 20:15Productivity is the measure of which you either hire or lay off or you eliminate the jobs
  258. 20:20altogether.
  259. 20:21Jobs that may have been looked at a year ago that you were going to hire for, they're
  260. 20:24just eliminated.
  261. 20:25So when you have contraction, you start laying people off and you stop hiring.
  262. 20:30Look what's happening.
  263. 20:31But why are the numbers on the GDP and the quarterly growth showing increasing expansion?
  264. 20:37I'll tell you why.
  265. 20:39And I'm going on the record here.
  266. 20:41And I have people pushed back on this.
  267. 20:43But now I was right.
  268. 20:45We are seeing AI replace humans at various positions.
  269. 20:51So the efficiency of AI is a higher productivity environment so it can maintain the company's
  270. 20:58efficient growth.
  271. 21:00So example, right now 25% of all the employees at Microsoft will be replaced by AI, whether
  272. 21:06it's in the coding, whether it's in law, whether it's in accounting, whether it's in marketing,
  273. 21:12it doesn't matter.
  274. 21:13And it could be 50% over the next three to five years.
  275. 21:16That will not slow down Microsoft's growth.
  276. 21:18What I'll do is eliminate massive amounts of labor costs.
  277. 21:22Over the next 12 to 24 months, corporations in America, mostly large scale corporations
  278. 21:28are going to save about $960 billion to $1 trillion as our estimates and overhead costs.
  279. 21:35That's going to continue the growth of the GDP.
  280. 21:38It's going to continue the growth of the expansion, but it's going to lower tax revenues, and it's
  281. 21:45going to put tens of millions of people out of work, they're automating everything from
  282. 21:49massage therapists to car washes to lawyers to doctors to accountants. I mean, how many
  283. 21:55Uber drivers will be left in five years? How many? None. How many will be taxi drivers?
  284. 22:00None. Autonomous driven cars, ships, planes, trains. So what's happening is when the Fed
  285. 22:06cut rates, the interest rates went up because we're still going to have an expansion of
  286. 22:13the economy, which is what?
  287. 22:15Inflationary.
  288. 22:17See, people forget that word inflation.
  289. 22:18They think that's a bad word.
  290. 22:20Inflation is the measure of the amount of cash
  291. 22:23that they have to supply that goes into the marketplace
  292. 22:26to be able to use in a collective manner,
  293. 22:28whether it's from lending buyouts,
  294. 22:31expansion of a small business to a large scale business.
  295. 22:34So we're gonna continue to have two, three, four percent GDP.
  296. 22:37We're gonna have it.
  297. 22:38Make no mistake about it.
  298. 22:39Trump's right, he's got the cent.
  299. 22:41He's right.
  300. 22:42We're going to have a massive growth in the fourth quarter.
  301. 22:44But here's what's going to come at.
  302. 22:46The expense, not because of Trump's policies,
  303. 22:49because of AI.
  304. 22:51The various people that are in this country right now,
  305. 22:53Alex, that are actually in the technology industry,
  306. 22:57the coders are actually writing themselves out of a job.
  307. 23:02Yeah.
  308. 23:02And you know what?
  309. 23:04The old saying, chance favors the prepared mind.
  310. 23:07I mean, these are not, it's not any failure
  311. 23:11Trump's economic policies, but it's just the changing landscape. Really technologically,
  312. 23:16a paradigm shift. And there are a lot of people that are, I'm talking young people in college and
  313. 23:22just now graduating, but they're very unprepared for this. Oh, I, I'm so glad you said that and put
  314. 23:31that topic up for discussion. If I was in college, I would look at one of four or five areas. I would
  315. 23:37would go to trades school or I would go to an area
  316. 23:39that has minimal amount of change,
  317. 23:44a minimum amount of transformation from labor-based,
  318. 23:49human, I call it the human-based now.
  319. 23:51And I don't, I mean, we talked like,
  320. 23:53we're gonna be coming into robots.
  321. 23:55It's true though, robots are gonna take over
  322. 23:57domestic household cleaning,
  323. 23:59all of the various things that we do now in labor,
  324. 24:02but there are areas in trade,
  325. 24:04electricians, plumbers, people that work with their hands to make a great deal of money. But
  326. 24:09at this point, if you're in the accounting, the law or the medical fields, or if you're in any
  327. 24:15financial services, I've got good news and bad news. Those jobs are already being replaced at
  328. 24:21levels that are about one tenth, one, even one twentieth of the cost of putting a human being in
  329. 24:27the right. It's so weird to say that it used to be MBAs. We're going to get these high paying jobs
  330. 24:33versus just regular degrees, whether they are associate degrees, bachelor degrees. We use a talk,
  331. 24:38not is like humans, but rather degrees that we achieved in university or college training.
  332. 24:44Now we're actually saying, oh yeah, robot's going to take over domestic cleaning. I saw a robot recently
  333. 24:49made in China for about six or $8,000 when they do the conversion that can vacuum, it can cook,
  334. 24:56it can do laundry, it can iron, and I go, how much money does a domestic full-time health person
  335. 25:02help 30,000, 40,000 a year probably, maybe a little bit more, maybe a little bit less.
  336. 25:06This robot was like $6,000, $7,000 or $8,000 and it did everything and guess what?
  337. 25:12It does it 24-7.
  338. 25:13Chris, we're going to have to pull away here in a second.
  339. 25:16US News and World Report every year puts out their annual college issue and having spent
  340. 25:23over 20 years now in Christian higher education, US News and World Report said a couple of years
  341. 25:31go of the 5500 colleges and grad schools in the next 20 years, more than half will close.
  342. 25:40They've got tens of millions of dollars of deferred maintenance.
  343. 25:44I mean, seriously, colleges are burning up their endowments to pay for dormitories that
  344. 25:50aren't even used anymore, putting roofs on things like that.
  345. 25:53And so, as you or your kids are going to the university, I mean, besides the woke indoctrination
  346. 26:01that they get at many a secular school. Just look, the four years and $150,000 of tuition you pay,
  347. 26:08you might wind up with a degree that's useless in an AI world. Hey, we got to pull away one last
  348. 26:14time and we'll get you on again when we can talk longer. Christian, what's your L for your website,
  349. 26:20please? Bravo, Mary Charlie, BMC, Ham.com. And on X, it's BMC underscore H.A.M. Yeah,
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  353. 26:45I do expect some various volatility in the upcoming months. Hey, thanks very much. We look for the
  354. 26:51room we can talk again. Alex, I'm telling here folks the American Family Radio Network. We're
  355. 26:55We're going to segue and I want you to meet someone just who is a valued colleague, someone
  356. 27:01for whom I have a measurable respect.
  357. 27:04Pastor Lucas Miles, he is the senior director of TPUSA Faith.
  358. 27:09And oh my goodness, he's been on Newsmax, the Blaze, Fox, Washington Times, CBN, all over
  359. 27:16the place.
  360. 27:17He's a prolific author and we can talk about some of his books.
  361. 27:21But like myself, he was a friend to the late, great Charlie Kirk and kind of on short notice,
  362. 27:29he's made time to be with us tonight.
  363. 27:31And by the way, folks, on September 14, we were going to have the final in our series
  364. 27:38of conversations that matter.
  365. 27:40And there was going to be Lauren Green of Fox News and in the, you know, 72 hours after
  366. 27:46Charlie's shooting. We postponed that event. It's going to be Friday, October 3rd. We're
  367. 27:52going to have a panel discussion and the event in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina at the Greg
  368. 27:58Roles Legacy Theater. We had Charlie down here, August 21. We're going to talk about the state
  369. 28:05of the nation, the state of the church, life in a post-Charlie Kirk world. But it's going
  370. 28:13to be a tribute to the founder and leader of TPUSA as well.
  371. 28:17We'll tell you more about the October 3rd event.
  372. 28:19But Lucas Miles, welcome to the program.
  373. 28:22Thank you for being with us tonight.
  374. 28:24But even more importantly, Lucas,
  375. 28:25thank you for what you're doing to bring people to Christ
  376. 28:28in our nation and world.
  377. 28:31Alex, I appreciate that.
  378. 28:32It's always good to be with you and to hear your voice.
  379. 28:35And you've been a calm, steady, I think,
  380. 28:37for a lot of people for a long time.
  381. 28:39And a big fan of yours, which it was under different circumstances
  382. 28:43this week, but thanks for having me on.
  383. 28:45Well, and condolences, love and prayers to you and your family,
  384. 28:51and I think about Michael McCoy and all of our friends
  385. 28:55that were part of Charlie's staff.
  386. 28:57Lot to talk about, but Lucas, where were you?
  387. 29:02How did you get the news a week ago today?
  388. 29:06Just please tell us how you processed
  389. 29:09what the world is still in shock over the death of Charlie Kirk.
  390. 29:14This is my wife and I were actually with another one of our leadership couples from our own
  391. 29:20ministry and we were on vacation and we were down actually in the Caribbean.
  392. 29:26My assistant who also works at TPSA faith, he said, hey, you need to unplug, put the phone down,
  393. 29:34I'm only going to bug you if something's really major and otherwise I'll just shoot you an email
  394. 29:39something but you know just to jiby the pool and you know have my phone you know
  395. 29:45just sitting next to me so that we kind of communicate with those around us and
  396. 29:49and it rings and it's my assistant I pick it up and just my heart sunk I knew
  397. 29:54something was wrong and you know he just said Charlie's been shot it's serious
  398. 29:59it's all we know start getting home and we got the first flight that we could and
  399. 30:05got got home the next day and it's been kind of a whirlwind ever since then I'm
  400. 30:10in Phoenix now with the staff, just trying to really make sure that we can give Charlie
  401. 30:16the best send-off that we can this Sunday for the memorial, which I think is going to be
  402. 30:19a historic day for this nation.
  403. 30:22You know, Lucas, last night I watched again the video from when Charlie was with us, and
  404. 30:28I just, I thank God that we were able to have him August 21.
  405. 30:35I first got to know him in, well, we talked on the phone in 2021, although I had known of
  406. 30:42him for a number of years, and I spoke for a TPUSA event at East Tennessee State University
  407. 30:48in Kingsport, Tennessee, and then we would see each other at conferences, and we were at
  408. 30:53the RNC convention together in Colorado at Caris Bible College.
  409. 31:00It was my joy when he spoke at Caris Bible College on October 30th of last year.
  410. 31:06That's when we really made plans for this summer and we prayed together backstage.
  411. 31:13I just cannot overstate respect that I had for him because besides being a brilliant political
  412. 31:20voice and analyst, and I want you to speak to this Lucas, he was a Jesus man.
  413. 31:28He was an evangelist at heart.
  414. 31:30Every place we ever went, he shared the gospel, he called people to salvation.
  415. 31:37And he was so unique.
  416. 31:40But the Lord Jesus Christ was number one in the life of Charlie Kirk.
  417. 31:44Am I right?
  418. 31:46That's 100 percent right.
  419. 31:47I mean, he could regularly be found reading and studying his Bible.
  420. 31:51Any time I was with him, we were talking about Jesus.
  421. 31:55He was asking questions about theology.
  422. 31:57He was working through different ideas and wanting to bounce them off of people.
  423. 32:02One of the last dinners and meals I had with him there was about eight of us or so that sat
  424. 32:09around the table.
  425. 32:11Charlie, I think in the spirit of hot foster free, he had a rule where if we had a group
  426. 32:18around the table, he would give time for each person to talk individually rather than having
  427. 32:22a bunch of side conversations so you could really focus on each person.
  428. 32:26just went around asking people to speak on different issues and cultural things
  429. 32:30happening and how do we engage this is Chris he loved the Lord he was passionate
  430. 32:35about the Lord and he wanted other people to know Jesus Christ as their Lord and
  431. 32:40for as he did. Well for those that may be unaware tell tell us about TP USA faith
  432. 32:46Lucas the voice you're hearing folks is the senior director of Turning Point
  433. 32:52USA faith. What what all does this part of the organization do? Yeah, you know, I think there's
  434. 32:59some, you know, most of the world, especially now is very familiar with Charlie's on campus debates
  435. 33:04and they've they were also probably familiar with the work that we do, which is chapters across the
  436. 33:09country. But there's also another division of of turning point and that's called CP USA faith.
  437. 33:13That's what I oversee. And the our division is really focused on on two major initiatives. And
  438. 33:20that is first of all to unite the body of christ around primary doctrine
  439. 33:24charlie love the church period
  440. 33:26he he you know from my vantage point
  441. 33:28he you know he loved you know
  442. 33:30uh... a lot of different things about different denominations
  443. 33:33he spent time getting to know pastors across a lot of different movements
  444. 33:37he would go visit churches
  445. 33:38you would spend time with them preaching them
  446. 33:40uh... he didn't really get into the micro of of secondary doctrine but he
  447. 33:44wanted to hold that thought
  448. 33:46You forgive me, Lucas.
  449. 33:46We got to pull away for a break.
  450. 33:48Alex McFarland here, the American Family Radio Network,
  451. 33:50our guest, Lucas Miles of TPUSA faith.
  452. 33:53We're back in just a moment.
  453. 33:55Stay with me.
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  478. 35:00Charlie Kirk, assassination.
  479. 35:03This is David Wheaton, host of the Christian World View.
  480. 35:0631-year-old married father of two, Charlie Kirk,
  481. 35:09perhaps the most influential conservative leader
  482. 35:12other than President Trump,
  483. 35:13was assassinated as he spoke at Utah Valley University.
  484. 35:17Of course, no one should be killed for their speech,
  485. 35:20but to the modern left, to disagree with them
  486. 35:22is to be a danger in need of silencing.
  487. 35:25Charlie will be remembered for his sharp intellect
  488. 35:28and persuasive debate style.
  489. 35:29He will also be known for being a forthright Christian.
  490. 35:33Pray for God's strength and comfort
  491. 35:35for Charlie's wife and family.
  492. 35:36Charlie is surely now saying,
  493. 35:38thanks be to God who gives us the victory
  494. 35:41through our Lord Jesus Christ.
  495. 35:43Here are most recent program on Charlie Kirk
  496. 35:46at thechristianworldview.org,
  497. 35:48and then tune in this weekend for another topic
  498. 35:50that will sharpen your worldview.
  499. 35:53Listen to the Christian worldview with David Wheaton,
  500. 35:55Saturday mornings at 8th Central on American Family Radio.
  501. 36:00The Hamilton Quarter Podcast and One-Bitted Common Terrors
  502. 36:07are available at afr.net.
  503. 36:10Back to the Hamilton Quarter on American Family Radio.
  504. 36:15welcome back to the program out where having a conversation with the luchus miles
  505. 36:20sees past ories senior director of turning point u s a faith
  506. 36:25uh... but he's also a prolific author and uh... i want to continue and talk about
  507. 36:30charlie kirk in his legacy in the ongoing work of tp u s a but
  508. 36:35luchus what is your latest book brother
  509. 36:38yet it's called pagan threat uh... and it's uh... the subtitles confronting america's
  510. 36:43Godless, uprisings and very honored to include a forward from the late, great Charlie Kirk.
  511. 36:50Wow.
  512. 36:51It's got to be pretty special.
  513. 36:53You know, I will tell you in the books the Lord has allowed me to write some of the people
  514. 36:59that, you know, heroes of mine like Chuck Colson or Eric Metaxus have written a forward
  515. 37:05for me for some of my books.
  516. 37:07And I know you do cherish that, but wow, that's such an honor that Charlie would write the
  517. 37:13the forward for you for that book.
  518. 37:16If you would comment on a book you wrote,
  519. 37:18one of the first times I heard you speak,
  520. 37:20I don't know, Lucas was, I don't know,
  521. 37:22three or four years ago, no kidding, no flattery,
  522. 37:25but you are one of the most impressive communicators
  523. 37:29that I believe I've ever heard.
  524. 37:31And I remember you came and gave a talk on woke Jesus,
  525. 37:35the false Messiah, destroying Christianity.
  526. 37:38It's a fantastic book, folks.
  527. 37:40I urge you to read all of Lucas Miles' work.
  528. 37:44But tell us a little bit about that book.
  529. 37:47And are you still touring and promoting that book some?
  530. 37:51Yeah, I mean, obviously, there's a lot of things on pause
  531. 37:54right now.
  532. 37:54And so we get recalibrated here in the aftermath of this.
  533. 37:58But I can tell people for sure that we're not slowing down.
  534. 38:02We're not stopping that, if anything,
  535. 38:04we're going to be cranking it up quite a bit.
  536. 38:06And so the work that I've been doing really
  537. 38:09over the last several years you mentioned woke jesus before that i wrote a book
  538. 38:12called the christian left and now pagan threat
  539. 38:15all of these have really been focused on dealing with this infiltration of our
  540. 38:19society in our churches
  541. 38:21of of progressive thought of marxism
  542. 38:24of ultimately what is morphed into paganism
  543. 38:27uh... what can come as a religion really it is a it is a rigid religion that is
  544. 38:31anti-god
  545. 38:32anti-faith anti-family anti-america
  546. 38:35uh... and it is it is really demonic in nature and this is what we are
  547. 38:39seeing that has affected this next generation so, so, you know,
  548. 38:44prevalently. And I think that this is something that Charlie understood better
  549. 38:47than anybody. And ultimately, it is the cancer that, that, you know, took his life.
  550. 38:53And it is so important, I think, as we continue this legacy of his and continue
  551. 38:59to work, as we got the charge from Erica Kirk the other night when she
  552. 39:04get her national broadcast that we have to really work to make having crowded and to do
  553. 39:10so we're going to have to push back these false ideologies.
  554. 39:13Indeed.
  555. 39:14And yes, wokeness absolutely is a religion.
  556. 39:18And I think we've all had to, those of us that are, you know, we believe the Bible, we
  557. 39:22believe the tenets of historic Christianity, we've had to, in one way or another at one
  558. 39:28time or another, we've had to respond to those that try to make Christianity Marxist
  559. 39:34or try to declassify what the Bible calls sin.
  560. 39:40Progressive Christianity is not progressive at all.
  561. 39:43It's a deviation from Scripture, isn't it?
  562. 39:45It's also not Christian at all, right?
  563. 39:47Exactly.
  564. 39:48The reality of it.
  565. 39:50There's so many, and I'm sure you've seen these, Alex.
  566. 39:53There's a lot of pastors that did not address the martyrdom that Charlie Kirk this last Sunday.
  567. 39:58and you know i saw a couple very well-known prevalent pastors
  568. 40:01you know really attempting to
  569. 40:03uh... you know make excuses for that of a
  570. 40:05you know what i think charlie would just want me to preach jesus on sunday in
  571. 40:09this sort of language and i understand and i can appreciate the sentiment
  572. 40:12and i never want to force a pastor
  573. 40:14uh... to say a particular thing we don't want this to feel
  574. 40:17uh... like the aftermath of twenty twenty where if you don't say the phrase
  575. 40:20black lives matter than
  576. 40:22then you're canceled or something like that
  577. 40:24but what i would say is that the martyrdom of charlie kirk was a litmus
  578. 40:28in the aftermath of this for whether or not a church is willing to be courageous
  579. 40:32and bold and to stand strong
  580. 40:34uh... and and you know can you tell me
  581. 40:36that the early church would have not mentioned uh... even after he was
  582. 40:41stoned to death
  583. 40:42because all we just want to talk about jesus we're not going to mention our
  584. 40:44brother who was just killed before our eyes or that they wouldn't talk about
  585. 40:47james after he was beheaded or that the second century church didn't mention
  586. 40:51polycarpe after he was burned the stake and thrust with a spear
  587. 40:55uh... that it's absolutely ludicrous and so
  588. 40:57charlie kirk is a martyr he stood for the faith
  589. 41:00and i think that the church has to wake up and people have to wake up and start
  590. 41:03looking for a church near them
  591. 41:06that is willing to stand strong and i had a return to be a big faith
  592. 41:09dot com and reach out to us we can help them do
  593. 41:13and and how many people be involved out i was talking to
  594. 41:17uh... uh... t p u s a colleague this morning
  595. 41:20about the thousands and thousands of requests they're getting
  596. 41:24to start chapters of turning point in high schools
  597. 41:28and universities but uh... for tp os a faith
  598. 41:32uh... what what can people do to get involved lucas
  599. 41:37first off you know you go to tp a faith dot com we have couple different interest
  600. 41:40forms there you can fill out you can also follow us on our social media
  601. 41:44uh... platforms instagram
  602. 41:46uh... you know you to be better and or to get more of our content we put out a
  603. 41:49lot of resources for churches so
  604. 41:52especially pastors out there that are hearing this or church leaders or elders or something
  605. 41:56like that.
  606. 41:57Here's the beautiful thing.
  607. 41:58Everything that TPSA Faith does for the church is free of charge.
  608. 42:02We have courses, we have classes, we have different materials.
  609. 42:06We'll send speakers to your church to help support them.
  610. 42:08That was always Charlie's heart and his passion.
  611. 42:11He came to me and said, hey, how can we get top level speakers, these churches that maybe
  612. 42:16can't always afford them to be able to support their work that's there.
  613. 42:20We have a lot of different support we can do.
  614. 42:23I've got a staff of about 40 individuals
  615. 42:24across the country right now.
  616. 42:26I have a feeling that with this ground, sir,
  617. 42:28that we're going to only see the organization grow
  618. 42:31and to carry out the work.
  619. 42:33It's more important than ever.
  620. 42:35And we have to continue this before it's due.
  621. 42:38Yeah.
  622. 42:39You mentioned Erica Kirk.
  623. 42:42I believe it was last Friday night.
  624. 42:45incredibly moving speech, incredibly courageous speech.
  625. 42:50But she said, and you know, between wiping tears away,
  626. 42:55my wife and I were just saying praise God,
  627. 42:58but she said that an incredible movement
  628. 43:01has been unleashed and it will only grow.
  629. 43:05Now I pray that is so, Lucas,
  630. 43:09tell us about what you think God is going to do
  631. 43:12with this otherwise tragic situation
  632. 43:17you know obviously uh... any of us
  633. 43:19that new charlie
  634. 43:21uh... would would grab the badly turned back the clock to have him back
  635. 43:25uh... but as one of his dear friends and and colabers said the other night at
  636. 43:29this vigil
  637. 43:30uh... charlie wouldn't do that
  638. 43:32uh... the movement that has happened over the last few days
  639. 43:36is everything that charlie was working towards
  640. 43:39uh... he gave not only
  641. 43:40his days on this earth to see that happen but he also gave his last breath
  642. 43:46to see that happen
  643. 43:47uh... charlie kirk was a man devoted to the mission and the purpose in the
  644. 43:51agenda that got it laid on his heart
  645. 43:53and we are seeing that
  646. 43:54uh... filled more than ever before over the last few days of revival church
  647. 43:59attendance across the nation has exploded
  648. 44:01my own church doubled in attendance
  649. 44:03uh... this this past sunday just outside of south bina indiana i'm hearing
  650. 44:07reports like that from pastors all across the country
  651. 44:10uh... you know as as people are showing up i'd just just before coming on the show
  652. 44:14i just got
  653. 44:15uh... a message uh... from an individual email from an individual
  654. 44:19uh... that has been working in uh... uh... basically you know
  655. 44:23online uh... uh... uh... you know sex trade adult entertainment type of
  656. 44:27around and she wrote me and she said i'm conservative
  657. 44:30i've been doing this to pay my bills after the event
  658. 44:33I want out, I want to give my life to Jesus, and can you help me get started?
  659. 44:39I think that people are going through a major at the risk of sounding cliche here, a turning
  660. 44:45point in their life.
  661. 44:46I had a college friend that reached out to me here recently and said, I've judged you for
  662. 44:50the last few years.
  663. 44:51As I've seen the work that you're doing, I didn't understand it.
  664. 44:54I didn't think it was that important.
  665. 44:55I repent.
  666. 44:56What you are doing is more important than ever.
  667. 44:59How can I get involved?
  668. 45:00How can I help?
  669. 45:01on now they're trying to fly out to charlie's memorial on sunday to support
  670. 45:05uh... you know everything that happening here the world change last
  671. 45:08wednesday in a moment
  672. 45:10and it never gonna be the same
  673. 45:11uh... on our watch
  674. 45:14look as you're gonna appreciate this uh... last night at the privilege of
  675. 45:17speaking at a memorial service uh... in mertle beach south carolina
  676. 45:21the turning point u s a chapter down here
  677. 45:24uh... it was fantastic
  678. 45:27uh... it was a great church
  679. 45:29i was asked to speak well
  680. 45:31because, you know, it was a fairly high profile event.
  681. 45:36I was assigned a security person
  682. 45:38who was with me last night, actually a couple.
  683. 45:42And this gentleman texted me,
  684. 45:44his former New Jersey law enforcement guy,
  685. 45:48I'm gonna guess he's in his late 50s, early 60s.
  686. 45:51And he texted me an hour ago, he said,
  687. 45:54Mr. McFarland, listen to your remarks last night.
  688. 45:58I watched all the videos of Charlie Kirk.
  689. 46:01I played at the event.
  690. 46:02It was one of the most moving things.
  691. 46:03I want you to know, since last night,
  692. 46:06I was your security detail.
  693. 46:08I've committed my life to Christ.
  694. 46:10I have not been in church in years, but I'm coming to church.
  695. 46:14But he said, I've put my faith in Jesus
  696. 46:16as a result of last night.
  697. 46:18And glory to God, glory to God.
  698. 46:24And you know, folks, let me just say this.
  699. 46:26Charlie Kirk had his path, his assignment from Jesus.
  700. 46:31He lived it out to the fullest degree.
  701. 46:34Lucas Miles is serving Jesus.
  702. 46:37But what about you, my friend?
  703. 46:38If you've never been saved, if you've never been saved,
  704. 46:41the Lord Jesus Christ died for you.
  705. 46:43He loves you.
  706. 46:44He rose from the dead.
  707. 46:46You can call out to Christ right now.
  708. 46:48He is as close by as a prayer.
  709. 46:51And whatever you've done, he'll forgive if you ask him
  710. 46:54and you trust him.
  711. 46:55whatever's been done to you he he can heal and today let's all commit
  712. 47:02for the glory of god in honor and in the light of the example of charlie kirk
  713. 47:07uh... let's do this thing what else is there to live for but for
  714. 47:11the risen savior king jesus
  715. 47:14god is on the move is new lucas
  716. 47:17one hundred percent i'm honored to be uh... to play a small part
  717. 47:20in in what's happening right now across the nation
  718. 47:23uh... so blessed to be working with everyone here at turning points in tp
  719. 47:27s a faith
  720. 47:28and i was just encourage your audience and you know i have people that have been
  721. 47:31i mean text messages and calls and emails pouring in
  722. 47:34and uh... what i do you know just a how can i help and what i would say is
  723. 47:37head over to tp u at the fact that com head over to tp u at the dot com
  724. 47:41and you know if you want to make a donation if you want to send a letter
  725. 47:44encouragement if you want to
  726. 47:45you know offer prayer if you're you know in the area and you want to come out in
  727. 47:49and support uh... the memorial and sign up for that you find out more charlie
  728. 47:53dot com
  729. 47:54uh... this is a historic moment not only for this nation not only for the world
  730. 47:58but for the kingdom of god
  731. 48:00and we you know charlie would want to take advantage of every single opportunity
  732. 48:04he'd want to not stop
  733. 48:06uh... he he was uh... he never had an idle moment he didn't you know everything he
  734. 48:10did was so intentional
  735. 48:12uh... or even though he was fifteen years younger than me i learned so much from
  736. 48:15him
  737. 48:16watching him knowing him
  738. 48:18uh... and i will treasure that all the days of my life
  739. 48:20Until then we've got a lot of work to do indeed, you know, I gotta say this and we're almost out of time folks
  740. 48:27We're talking with Lucas Miles author pastor lea senior director of tp USA faith, but
  741. 48:35Mark now I believe is mark 926 says some things are only achieved through prayer and fasting and I think that
  742. 48:44frankly, I think that transgenderism is demonic
  743. 48:47because it's the ultimate form of moral relativism.
  744. 48:53It's like saying, God not only,
  745. 48:55you can't tell me how to behave,
  746. 48:57God you can't even define what I am.
  747. 48:59So, Lucas, in the spirit of great awakening
  748. 49:02and revival in America,
  749. 49:05would it be appropriate if you feel lead folks
  750. 49:09and if your doctor says your health is okay,
  751. 49:11but not only to pray for an awakening,
  752. 49:13but to fast and pray for the strongholds of Satan
  753. 49:17to be broken and our nation set free from the wokeness, the darkness, the delusion. What
  754. 49:24is your word, Lucas, about fasting and praying for spiritual awakening?
  755. 49:30I think that fasting plays a role in what I always say, it's not that it moves God, but
  756. 49:37it gets us in a position to be able to hear from God, to receive the things that he has
  757. 49:41for us. One of the things that Charlie was so passionate about, and he actually has a
  758. 49:46new book himself that is number one right now in the country
  759. 49:49uh... and and called stop in the name of god
  760. 49:52and it was this idea of sabbath
  761. 49:55taking time to rest and during that rest you know a lot of times for him it was a
  762. 50:00fast it was spending time to pray
  763. 50:02going for that walk with the lord hearing from heaven
  764. 50:05and i think that this is something that we have to do across the country is we
  765. 50:08have to hear from the lord
  766. 50:09uh... we have to take time and you know
  767. 50:11when it when it says that you know some only go out by prayer and fasting
  768. 50:15it's not just talking about you know that the demons care what you eat on a
  769. 50:18given day but don't know belief leaves
  770. 50:21it puts us in a position where we can really here
  771. 50:23and receive from the lord and get ready for what he has for us america need that
  772. 50:27kind of mindset right now
  773. 50:29absolutely
  774. 50:30or brother uh... again uh... websites where people can find
  775. 50:34not only tp u s a but your own personal website as well luchas
  776. 50:39yes he got a p at a faith dot com to find out all of that we're doing it to
  777. 50:42to say faith. Also, I encourage you to go on Amazon or Barnes and Noble, pick up a copy
  778. 50:47of my new book, Pagan Threat, with a forward from Charlie Kirk. I will let you know there
  779. 50:52are, there's a fraudulent copy of the book, masquerading with mine right now on Amazon.
  780. 50:57So make sure you're getting the official copy and not the AI version that's trying to scan
  781. 51:01people. But I appreciate you having me on the show so much, Alex. And thanks for the
  782. 51:05work you're doing.
  783. 51:06Well, please convey our love, our regards, our condolences to Erica, the TPSA staff, and we look
  784. 51:13forward to when you and I can visit again on air. Folks, this has been Alex MacFarlane,
  785. 51:17the American Family Radio Network. And you know what? The Bible says in 1 Corinthians 1558,
  786. 51:23your labor in the Lord is not in vain. Your stand for Christ, your voice, your witness,
  787. 51:29your boldness, it will bear fruit. It does matter. So stand strong and tell somebody about Jesus.
  788. 51:36God bless you.

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