The Epstein saga has more enduring capacity than President Trump realizes. Callers weigh in.

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1. 0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
2. 0:03It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
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11. 0:33Good evening, everybody.
12. 0:34Welcome to the Hamilton Corner here on American Family Radio.
13. 0:37I am your host, Abraham Hamilton the third, joined by the fully loaded
14. 0:42corner contingent.
15. 0:44Today right across from me, my man, 100 grand, Mr. Bobby, Rosa.
16. 0:48You know, I learned recently somebody thought there was a person named.
17. 0:55I'm serious.
18. 0:56I just learned that.
19. 0:57It's like, no, that's a slang reference.
20. 1:02I just learned that.
21. 1:03So I need to say it more slowly
22. 1:07Mr Bobby
23. 1:09The Screeing Room is doubly occupied today
24. 1:13produced extraordinary
25. 1:14The Real.
26. 1:15Jay Mack who is often imitated
27. 1:17but never duplicated.
28. 1:19He is in the screening room as
29. 1:20well as Mr.
30. 1:21Marty Sparks lighting up the dark from
31. 1:23there.
32. 1:25Still in perpetual recovery.
33. 1:28As another one.
34. 1:28Somebody really thought
35. 1:29it was is Marty okay.
36. 1:32He's still in recovery.
37. 1:33I'm serious.
38. 1:34I was speaking out of place. I'm not gonna name the place. The person came up to me. I've been worried
39. 1:39Do I need to pray for him?
40. 1:41He's nodding. Yes, you need to pray for him Marty's fine
41. 1:46He's a tremendous woodworker, but in making some life transitions a shop
42. 1:51And I'm suffering because I need you for some stuff and to my right
43. 1:56Don't go too far in a cruise ship a yacht
44. 2:01or if you're riding in the car.
45. 2:04As Reed Ritter's ladies and gentlemen,
46. 2:06double R is in studio and we're ready to rock and roll
47. 2:09with today's edition of the program.
48. 2:11At this very moment, many of you, if not most of you,
49. 2:13are making your transition from your part time jobs
50. 2:16where you generate an income to your full time jobs
51. 2:19where you cultivate an outcome.
52. 2:20And as you do so, I want to remind you
53. 2:23to do so with intentionality, understanding the primacy
54. 2:26that God places on family and welcoming that primacy
55. 2:29to inform your engagement, things that are happening
56. 2:34on the national stage, they are important,
57. 2:37but they are not more important
58. 2:38than what goes on in your house.
59. 2:39What happens in the White House is not more important
60. 2:41than what goes on in your house.
61. 2:43You have direct influence, direct control,
62. 2:46and therefore direct responsibility
63. 2:49for what happens in your home.
64. 2:52Unfortunately, in too many instances,
65. 2:55people allow the world, the flesh, the devil,
66. 3:01the culture or many other considerations to drive us
67. 3:07to play significance and importance on everything
68. 3:10outside of our families and outside of our homes.
69. 3:13And we often let our homes kind of fall by the wayside
70. 3:16or where we spend ourselves in pursuits
71. 3:19and endeavors outside of our families
72. 3:20and then we just offer our families
73. 3:22just the leftovers of a day that is well spent.
74. 3:27I would simply encourage you to reverse that
75. 3:29because you have the opportunity
76. 3:30starting writing your own home to execute the King's Commission.
77. 3:34You have the opportunity to invest in and to shape eternal destinies.
78. 3:41And I would encourage you to respond accordingly.
79. 3:44We look at our society, like I'm going to cover this story.
80. 3:47We a lot of people talked about, you know, Zoram, Mom, Donnie, in New York,
81. 3:52City, eight as another one.
82. 3:53There's another socialist mayor.
83. 3:56Should I say, mayoral candidate in Minnesota?
84. 3:59you know, in Minneapolis specifically.
85. 4:03And how do you get a populace that would respond
86. 4:06to these people with a positive vote?
87. 4:08You know, I was watching one of these talking head shows
88. 4:12and it was CNN and I know you're like,
89. 4:15why a great question, I do it for y'all.
90. 4:18So you don't have to, I do it.
91. 4:20You know, my wife says the same thing,
92. 4:21hey, why are you watching that?
93. 4:24They had this panel on CNN and this big head dude,
94. 4:28I'm selling, he had a big noggin.
95. 4:29He just is the truth.
96. 4:30That's not an insult.
97. 4:31He's not, he just had a wapo up top.
98. 4:33That's just the truth.
99. 4:34And he tried to correct Scott Jennings,
100. 4:39who was a conservative on the panel saying,
101. 4:40Mom Donnie is not a communist.
102. 4:43He's a socialist.
103. 4:45And I'm just like, and?
104. 4:47You said that like is better.
105. 4:48Like it's less egregious.
106. 4:51Like when we've gotten to the place
107. 4:53within the American Body Politics dialogue
108. 4:57to where you think socialist becomes a palatable expression,
109. 5:05what has happened to us?
110. 5:07He literally said that like,
111. 5:09oh, you're saying he's a murderer.
112. 5:12He's not a murderer in the mass sense.
113. 5:16He just killed a couple people.
114. 5:19I was like, what?
115. 5:21Who has been which to you?
116. 5:23That's it.
117. 5:24To the word of God, we go Psalm 133.
118. 5:27This is a Psalm of ascent, which would have been a psalm that was saying in
119. 5:31route as the Jews were instructed to travel from all over the nation to worship
120. 5:37the Lord at Jerusalem.
121. 5:38This is also a song that is written by David.
122. 5:42It's a popular psalm, but I think we can miss some of the texture of what God
123. 5:49is conveying to us from his holy word.
124. 5:52If we are not students of the text, but I'll read it.
125. 5:56It literally is just three verses.
126. 5:58And this is what the Psalm says,
127. 6:00a song of a sense of David.
128. 6:02Behold how good and pleasant it is
129. 6:05when brothers dwell together in unity.
130. 6:10It is like the precious oil on the head running down
131. 6:13on the beard, on the beard of Aaron,
132. 6:15running down on the collar of his robes.
133. 6:18It is like the dew of Herman,
134. 6:20which falls on the mountains of Zion for therefore,
135. 6:24I'm sorry, for there the Lord has commanded the blessing,
136. 6:29life forevermore.
137. 6:31Oh man, God's word is so rich.
138. 6:35The text is plain how good and pleasant it is
139. 6:38where brothers dwell in unity.
140. 6:40This is one of the texts that I memorized in King James
141. 6:44when the brethren dwell in unity.
142. 6:46And it is no doubt an expression of a divine celebration
143. 6:53of human unity.
144. 6:54And when I say divine celebration, it is God communicating
145. 6:59how wondrous it is when brethren, family members here
146. 7:05specifically has in view the people of Israel.
147. 7:07You can have the application, the family of God
148. 7:10going forward within the view of the covenant
149. 7:13that we have through Christ Jesus.
150. 7:15How good and pleasant it is when brethren dwell together in unity.
151. 7:19Now, what may not be obvious is that this expression, brothers dwelling in unity, is first introduced
152. 7:29into the biblical narrative in Genesis chapter 13.
153. 7:34Specifically verse 6, Genesis chapter 13, verse 6.
154. 7:38What is happening there?
155. 7:39Well, in Genesis 13, that is where you have the biblical account of Abram at that time,
156. 7:45and his nephew, lot, and both of them are living and growing together.
157. 7:51But the land becomes insufficient to support the, the plenius of their crops.
158. 7:58It's almost like the land became too small for both of them to continue.
159. 8:03And that's where one of the underlying things that contributed to lot cat pitching his tent
160. 8:10as the scripture says, it's Sodom and Abram remaining in Canaan because the area towards
161. 8:15Sodom was more fertile.
162. 8:16You remember this from Genesis 13, but the expression brothers dwelling in unity was first
163. 8:22employed there.
164. 8:24So when David employs this Psalm, he is no doubt talking about unity, but it has the
165. 8:31undergirding of a specific implication.
166. 8:34How good and pleasant it is when brethren, brothers dwell together in unity.
167. 8:39It is like the precious oil on the head,
168. 8:41running down on the beard, on the beard of Aaron,
169. 8:43running down on the collar of his robes.
170. 8:45It is like the do of Hermann, which falls
171. 8:47on the mountains of Zion.
172. 8:49For there the Lord has commanded the blessing,
173. 8:52life forevermore.
174. 8:54One of the most immediate implications,
175. 8:55knowing that this expression is first
176. 8:58introduced in the biblical account in Genesis chapter 13.
177. 9:01The Psalmist here, Davidish is communicating
178. 9:05that the land is fruitful and bountiful enough
179. 9:09for brothers or relatives or family members and their families
180. 9:14to dwell closely together where true community is established
181. 9:18and each has genuine concern for one another.
182. 9:23What David is saying is that how wondrous it is
183. 9:26when the circumstances are not like they were
184. 9:29with Abram and Lot.
185. 9:31But you're in a circumstance where the land is bountiful
186. 9:35and plity and plintiness enough and robust enough
187. 9:38to sustain us all together, to where there's a robust
188. 9:41community of intimacy that is established,
189. 9:44where each has concern for one another equally,
190. 9:47instead of having the Abram Lot circumstance,
191. 9:50where one's individual concern is elevated
192. 9:53as such a heightened position where separation
193. 9:56becomes necessary.
194. 9:58To say all of those many words in a shorter way,
195. 10:02what the Lord is conveying is that first and foremost,
196. 10:04we should understand that things in the kingdom of God
197. 10:07are different.
198. 10:09The kingdom of God is entirely otherworldly.
199. 10:13In the kingdom of God,
200. 10:15we don't have to consider ourselves advancing personally
201. 10:18at the expense of our brother.
202. 10:21There's enough space in God's economy
203. 10:24for me to thrive in what God has called him to do
204. 10:26and to be and to function in.
205. 10:28And there's enough room in God's economy for me to thrive
206. 10:31and what God has called me to be and to do.
207. 10:33We don't have to consider our responsiveness
208. 10:35at the expense of someone else.
209. 10:38but from a worldly paradigm,
210. 10:39you ever heard the expression crabs in a barrel?
211. 10:42From a worldly paradigm,
212. 10:43the notion is often a zero-sum game.
213. 10:46Well, if you advance, there's no room for me.
214. 10:50That ain't how it works in the kingdom of God,
215. 10:51brothers and sisters.
216. 10:52So what the psalmist is saying, yes, unity,
217. 10:55as it's commonly understood,
218. 10:56is included in the psalm, but it's deeper than that.
219. 11:00It's deeper than that.
220. 11:02In the kingdom of God,
221. 11:03what the Lord is celebrating through David the psalmist
222. 11:06is how good and pleasant it is
223. 11:08for brethren to be able to dwell together in unity,
224. 11:11that we can be on the same plane,
225. 11:12we can labor in the same fields,
226. 11:14and the land is robust enough for both the bus to thrive.
227. 11:17And we have equal concern from one another's wellbeing.
228. 11:22I don't have to advance at the expense of Bobby.
229. 11:24Bobby doesn't have to advance at my expense.
230. 11:27Jeff doesn't have to advance at my expense.
231. 11:30I don't have to advance at Jeff's expense.
232. 11:32In the kingdom of God,
233. 11:34we don't roll like they roll in the world.
234. 11:40We don't have to step on people to go forward.
235. 11:44We don't have to crush those behind us
236. 11:46to make room for ourselves.
237. 11:47In fact, the Lord says in another portion of scripture
238. 11:50that your gifts make room for you
239. 11:54and bring you before great.
240. 11:57The great bring you before kings.
241. 11:59So the underlying notion that this Psalmist
242. 12:03driving toward is for the people of God to glory in.
243. 12:09Man, praise be to God.
244. 12:11one body is many members. If the Lord calls Reed to be a mouth in his body and the Lord calls me to
245. 12:19be a big toe, glory to God for his bride. I don't have to be over here man, I'm just talking about
246. 12:25talking and Reed don't be out have to be on other side man. I sure would like to offer some foot
247. 12:30stability. No, there's ample room for all of God's people to respond to him the way he's ordained for
248. 12:39us to do so. This exact same expression is mentioned yet again in Genesis chapter 36 with
249. 12:46a repeat of what happened between Abram and Lot. This time is Jacob and Esau having to part
250. 12:53ways and in the Genesis 33 account it once again is utilized in the expression I'm talking
251. 12:58about is brother and brothers dwelling together in unity it's once again employed as a lament.
252. 13:04saw on Jacob cannot remain together cannot abide together.
253. 13:09But when the psalmist is employing it, he's employing it as a
254. 13:12reverse the antithesis of what Abraham and Locke experienced,
255. 13:17the antithesis of what he saw on Jacob experience, how good and
256. 13:21pleasant it is.
257. 13:22When the brethren, when the brothers dwell together in unity, it
258. 13:26is like precious oil on the head running down on the beard on
259. 13:30the beard of Aaron, which is a type as the high priest, the inoguro high priest in Israel's
260. 13:40historical account, running down on the collar of his robes.
261. 13:44It's like the do of Herman, which falls on the mountains of Zion.
262. 13:50For there the Lord has commanded the blessing, life forevermore.
263. 13:55Brothers and sisters, the Kingdom of God is entirely otherworldly.
264. 13:59We have the blessed privilege to live in such a way
265. 14:04where we don't have to have the expectations of the world.
266. 14:06We don't have to have the settlements of the world.
267. 14:10We can enjoy what God says is available to us.
268. 14:14This is not like a rubber stamp for lives
269. 14:16of flowery beds of ease, but this is once again,
270. 14:19this psalm is to adjust our expectations
271. 14:22and to help us have an internal disposition,
272. 14:24oh wait a minute, this is not a zero-sum game.
273. 14:30The Lord's providential advancement of me in my life doesn't have to result in the denigration
274. 14:35of anyone else.
275. 14:36And in fact, my advancement, along with my brother's advancement, puts me in a position
276. 14:42where we can be mutually concerned to one another's well-being.
277. 14:48What an honor and a privilege it is to be a son of the king.
278. 14:51What an honor and a privilege to be in the family of God.
279. 15:01A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker.
280. 15:04time reading and meditating on God's work is so valuable.
281. 15:09It blesses you in ways that you and I don't fully comprehend.
282. 15:13But remember this, when you're reading the Word of God,
283. 15:15you're spending time with Jesus,
284. 15:17you're spending time in the presence of Jesus.
285. 15:19Jesus is touching you,
286. 15:21ministering to you, giving you wisdom,
287. 15:23insight and the knowledge of God.
288. 15:26And let me say to every parent listening again,
289. 15:28having your child to read the word out loud to you every day,
290. 15:31I can't overemphasize how important that
291. 15:34Very important spiritual habit is in your home
292. 15:36for you and your family as well.
293. 15:38Remember when the child is reading the word of God
294. 15:40out loud to you.
295. 15:42They're spending time with Jesus.
296. 15:44Jesus is touching their life.
297. 15:46He's ministering to them.
298. 15:47He's pouring grace, peace and light
299. 15:50into your child's heart and mind.
300. 15:52Nothing will bless your child more
301. 15:54than the powerful word of God.
302. 16:05Shiting light into the darkness.
303. 16:07This is the Hamilton Corner, an American family radio.
304. 16:11Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton, the third.
305. 16:14Thank you for joining the program,
306. 16:16looking forward to being in Phoenix, Arizona later this week,
307. 16:19July 18th and 19th.
308. 16:21That'll be Friday and Saturday actually
309. 16:24at the Phoenix Convention Center
310. 16:26for the Arizona Families for Home Education 2025 convention.
311. 16:30It's gonna be an amazing time if you're in the area.
312. 16:33Well, when they come to the area,
313. 16:34I'd love to see you and meet you there.
314. 16:36You do have to register to attend and to do so,
315. 16:39simply go to AFHE.org.
316. 16:42That is A F H E for Arizona, Arizona families for home education.
317. 16:46And you can get all of the information and register right there at that site.
318. 16:50All right, it has been announced.
319. 16:52And I was getting text messages last night as this was kind of unfolding.
320. 16:57But it was announced that Pastor John MacArthur has passed away at 86 years of age.
321. 17:04It's remarkable to consider that he pastored a great community
322. 17:09church that one church for 50 years, you know, that's half a century, you know,
323. 17:13pastor at one church clearly has been influential.
324. 17:18You know, I've heard some people say that he led the COVID resistance to government
325. 17:23overreach into the church.
326. 17:25Definitely will give him credit for standing against it, but I cannot say he
327. 17:27led it because there were lots of other pastors who weren't as popular as him
328. 17:31who were doing the same things, but he no doubt having that huge platform that
329. 17:36God had afforded him was willing to risk it and that willing to take the shots that came
330. 17:42with standing firm on God's word and his presentation was simple that the government does not have
331. 17:48the authority to intrude upon the province of the Lord's Church period in the conversation.
332. 17:56He would, I saw old clips of him tangling with Gavin Newcilini before he became California's
333. 18:04governor explaining why Samsek marriage was such an abomination and and and addressing these issues and so
334. 18:11his his family no longer has to
335. 18:14endure the the health complications that he had been
336. 18:19suffering with toward the latter part of his life and by God's grace man
337. 18:27he's going on to enjoy the fullness of what he's preached about for 50 years that's that's pretty
338. 18:36Amazing. Now I'm gonna mention this and I don't want to well, yeah, I'll get to that
339. 18:43I'm gonna mention this I'm not gonna spend a whole lot of time on this now because I talked about it at length yesterday and
340. 18:48By the way, we're gonna open the phone lines because I want to get your take on that
341. 18:53I'll just tell you now first. Let me give the number 888 589 884 0 is the number that is 888
342. 19:00589 884 0 that is the number to call
343. 19:05I have two questions.
344. 19:08Now call as you get to answer one of the two.
345. 19:11All right, not both.
346. 19:13One of the two.
347. 19:15The first question that you can answer
348. 19:21is what do you think about the Epstein file saga?
349. 19:24I'm gonna make some comments about that in a few moments,
350. 19:26but I wanna know what you think about it.
351. 19:28Lots of talking heads, lots of people,
352. 19:32given their opinions, but I wanna hear what you think about.
353. 19:33And I'll tell you plainly, I think President Trump
354. 19:35was making a mistake and almost castigating his supporters
355. 19:40for caring about the issue.
356. 19:42Because the issue is not necessarily personal to Epstein,
357. 19:46even though it includes him,
358. 19:47but it's not necessarily personal to him,
359. 19:49from my view, and I'll share that in a moment.
360. 19:51The second question you get to answer,
361. 19:54one of the two is what is your take on
362. 19:56chipping Joanna Gaines?
363. 19:59I just, like I said, I'm not gonna say a whole lot
364. 20:03about this now because I talked about it a bit yesterday,
365. 20:08But one of the things when I was driving home yesterday, I was just thinking, what's the
366. 20:13point of having your own network?
367. 20:16One of the things that Brother Don had a vision for that became American Family Radio is that
368. 20:21we needed to own the microphone so that we could communicate with American people and
369. 20:26AFA supporters and AFR supporters without the filter of mainstream media.
370. 20:30We don't have to risk being edited and nipped and tucked and forced to say this and forced
371. 20:36to say that, we'll speak directly to the American people,
372. 20:39directly to the supporters with clarity
373. 20:41and the conviction of God's Word.
374. 20:44You know, and it just, it really bothers me
375. 20:46because I often encourage believers, you know,
376. 20:49to man various lanes.
377. 20:50Yes, to start that business, to start that enterprise,
378. 20:52to do these things so that you don't have to compromise.
379. 20:56Yet, these people become prominent and professed
380. 21:02to be Christians, which resulted in the overwhelming support
381. 21:05they receive the majority of these people's audience are
382. 21:08Christians. Let's just be real about that. But they take
383. 21:11advantage of that audience and now say, yeah, we we're gonna
384. 21:14have a show about the 1800s. We're gonna have a homosexual
385. 21:17couple on it. You at homosexual men would adopt the children
386. 21:201881, man, stop the madness. Stop the madness. Like, what's the
387. 21:25point of having your own network, the Magnolia network.
388. 21:29And yet, you're gonna use the Magnolia network to do the very
389. 21:32same thing that the worldly networks networks are doing.
390. 21:36It's just, and I'll say what?
391. 21:39And I hope they repent.
392. 21:43And it was grieving to see chip games almost bristling up against the rebuke he received,
393. 21:50the loving rebuke and right rebuke.
394. 21:53But he bristled up against that.
395. 21:55But we'll get to that.
396. 21:56So those are the two questions you can answer when we open the phone lines in the third segment,
397. 21:59888-589-8840.
398. 22:03Now I mentioned, we all know at this point about Zoron Momdani in New York City.
399. 22:16But there's another guy in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
400. 22:26His name is Omar Fatah.
401. 22:28Bobby was waiting for that.
402. 22:31Bobby was like, what's his name?
403. 22:33Y'all should have saw Bobby.
404. 22:34Bobby, why the handshake?
405. 22:35Y'all just said his name, man.
406. 22:38Omar Fatah.
407. 22:42The, oh man, Bobby State is about to be a shaken.
408. 22:48Omar Fatah who is the son of Somali immigrants.
409. 22:55Aren't you, yes.
410. 22:56Who, his claim to fame in local politics in Minneapolis
411. 23:00is that he's the first Muslim member
412. 23:02of the Minnesota state legislature
413. 23:08in the history of the state.
414. 23:11He advocates for policies like, I don't know,
415. 23:15rent freezes, a rapid increase to the minimum wage.
416. 23:21Gotta love this one, a refusal for a local law enforcement.
417. 23:24If he's mayor, he's headed to local law enforcement,
418. 23:26refusing to allow local law enforcement
419. 23:28to cooperate with ICE to deport immigrants
420. 23:32who enter the country illegally.
421. 23:34I wonder why he has a problem with that.
422. 23:36I always can't figure that.
423. 23:39Free college tuition, illegalized fentanyl testing strips,
424. 23:44just to get it right down to where it is.
425. 23:49The man is a socialist.
426. 23:51And I'm presenting these things guys,
427. 23:55really as a checkup opportunity.
428. 23:59Like how do we keep having these things repeated?
429. 24:03And we haven't arrived here all at once.
430. 24:06The bipartisan spending frenzy in Washington DC
431. 24:10helps to contribute.
432. 24:12But we are firmly entering the phase
433. 24:15where following for the first time in American history,
434. 24:18a man running for the presidency as an open socialist,
435. 24:21that we Bernie Sanders, get off my lawn.
436. 24:24Bernie Sanders, then you have him,
437. 24:31and then Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
438. 24:35then you have the squad, and now you have this guy.
439. 24:39Do you recognize what's happening in our country?
440. 24:45So I wanted you to be aware that what's happening
441. 24:47in New York City is not only happening in New York City,
442. 24:51It's happening in other portions of our country.
443. 24:55And it is not, let me say it this way.
444. 25:03It is a right desire for people to come to our country
445. 25:09to become citizens of our country.
446. 25:12Not to say it this way.
447. 25:14My friends in Canada introduced me to this metaphor.
448. 25:17America has always been the melting pot.
449. 25:19No matter where you come from, you come to America,
450. 25:20you become American.
451. 25:22Whereas Canada is a salad bowl.
452. 25:25salad bowl, you got a salad, but you can easily distinguish the
453. 25:28letters from the tomatoes and the tomatoes from the cucumber.
454. 25:32It's a salad, it's in the same bowl, but you have this kind of
455. 25:36herbivorous vulcanization that is transpired in the bowl, as
456. 25:40opposed to the melting pot, where we all come together. And I
457. 25:43don't care who it is, is nothing wrong with wanting to be
458. 25:46American and have Americans in America. This is why I have a
459. 25:51wife who grew up speaking Spanish. I say America should have an
460. 25:54English requirement for all of our Fisher documents.
461. 25:58I can't roll up to, to, you know Abu Dhabi,
462. 26:00I'm gonna go to Saudi Arabia and demand
463. 26:02that they have for official judicial proceedings in English,
464. 26:05because I showed up there.
465. 26:09Insane, it's insane.
466. 26:11You go in certain places in the country,
467. 26:13you have billboards and everything,
468. 26:14in foreign and in other language.
469. 26:18Guys, it's very easy because we live here
470. 26:21to only allow our experiences here,
471. 26:23to shape our understandings.
472. 26:24There are no other countries in the world that do that,
473. 26:30except for those that have been, you know, overrun with
474. 26:35gramcy and Marxism that are looking forward to the
475. 26:38Balkanization. That's why you have the no-go zones in England.
476. 26:42Guys, I don't want that to be repeated here in our country.
477. 26:45Really coming. You know, it shouldn't be a Herculean effort to
478. 26:53say, you know what, we need our official documentation to be
479. 26:57in English. You're not going to go to jail if you require
480. 27:00translator. There's a language that we speak. It's called
481. 27:04English. That's not insulting. That's not
482. 27:07at racist.
483. 27:10Just as racist as it is for Saudi Arabia refused to translate their official documents in English.
484. 27:15It just boggles my mind, man.
485. 27:18It just boggles my mind.
486. 27:21So, yeah, mom down in the northeast and you got Omar Fatah.
487. 27:27That's his name.
488. 27:28Why are you laughing, but Omar?
489. 27:33Omar Fatah.
490. 27:34Running for mayor in Minneapolis.
491. 27:36Alright, we'll say a little bit about this Epstein situation.
492. 27:44President Trump speaking with reporters kind of got upset. Why are you guys talking about Epstein? It's like um
493. 27:52You should be talking about Epstein
494. 27:56You appointed people among other things who talks about Epstein cast for tell down by Dan Bongino. I can hear right now
495. 28:03Dan Bongino in 2023 because you know he is a former Secret Service agent
496. 28:07Dan Bongino has a friend who has a Secret Service agent agent who is assigned to protect
497. 28:13William Jefferson Clinton, you know, depends on what the definition of his is.
498. 28:17Y'all know what that wall. You remember him. And he literally explains, I'm on this plane,
499. 28:25and I'm not going to go through the whole deal, but the bottom line,
500. 28:27Slick Willie ends up with some young girls that Dan Banjino's friend,
501. 28:33clearly underage. And as a result, he does something risking his own career,
502. 28:38saying I never want to be assigned to a Bill Clinton ever again. I can, Dan Banjino talked about,
503. 28:43and he becomes a deputy FBI director.
504. 28:46Oh, oh yeah, and by the way, this is a little bitty thing, you know, it's a small thing, not a big thing,
505. 28:51but your Attorney General, Mr. Trump, yours, the one you nominated, right?
506. 28:56And many of us supported, I supported Pan Bondi's nomination for Attorney General.
507. 29:00She went on Fox News and literally said, I have the Epstein client list on my desk.
508. 29:08She said that. I didn't say that.
509. 29:12The people who voted for you didn't say that. She said that.
510. 29:14Then she said, then they called the whole press conference deal when they invited conservative
511. 29:23influences and others to the White House, gave out these binders, remember all of that?
512. 29:27Which ended up having nothing in it other than was already publicly available.
513. 29:32And see what I think President Trump is failing to recognize in this, is that the people who
514. 29:37supported him did so largely because his candidacy and also an election represented a recalibration
515. 29:44away from what was widely recognized as this two-tiered justice system where the deep
516. 29:49state literally drives everything, but simply put many of the people who voted for him did
517. 29:54so because they wanted their country.
518. 29:57They didn't want to lose or see their country to an unnamed shadowy cabal of unelected,
519. 30:04unknown, you know, shadow government deep state swap rats.
520. 30:09Like, remember all that?
521. 30:11The swamp, drainage, swamp.
522. 30:12I'm surprised at Trump.
523. 30:13For you to all of a sudden,
524. 30:15and he not only said that Yonee
525. 30:17stopped talking about it,
526. 30:18but he almost rebuked and condemned
527. 30:20the people who were interested in it.
528. 30:23And so what I'm simply saying,
529. 30:24the issue is one of credibility.
530. 30:27It's one of credibility.
531. 30:29And an easy out for him,
532. 30:31because they started this.
533. 30:32Nobody compelled them to do this,
534. 30:34to talk about it the way they did.
535. 30:35Nobody to open up and bondy,
536. 30:37to go on Fox News and see I have the Epstein files on my desk.
537. 30:40Nobody made her say that.
538. 30:41So she was either lying then,
539. 30:43or she is lying now.
540. 30:44There's no way to escape that.
541. 30:46And y'all know me,
542. 30:47I'm an equal to opportunity truth teller.
543. 30:48I support President Trump's presidency,
544. 30:50but I'm not going to just follow suit,
545. 30:51whatever he does, if he does something, I think is wrong.
546. 30:54And I think it's wrong for him to try to castigate
547. 30:57his supporters for caring about this issue,
548. 31:00because it's not just Epstein the person.
549. 31:03It is the broader issue of accountability, credibility,
550. 31:06and whether or not we actually have a country
551. 31:08of the people by the people before the people.
552. 31:10That's what people care about.
553. 31:13And this presents the possibility of leaving a black's
554. 31:17a stain on the Trump legacy and those connected to him.
555. 31:22And I think he's making a misstep by addressing it this way.
556. 31:25Now I understand because I'm a prosecutor,
557. 31:27I understand that there's information that they have,
558. 31:30but it includes people that might have attended a party,
559. 31:32but they were not the, you know,
560. 31:35clients of Epstein for the sex trafficking.
561. 31:39And that's another thing like, we suppose to act like,
562. 31:41we don't know that Jeffrey Epstein was arrested
563. 31:43indicted facing severe charges in Florida, then Alacicosta came out and said, yeah,
564. 31:48by the way, he got to stop on Arristan, Florida because he was an intelligence asset.
565. 31:52Acosta said that. We supposed to act like we don't know he said that. And Galaine Maxwell,
566. 32:01she's in prison serving 20 years for what? She was indicted in terms of sex trafficking
567. 32:10to know what? Come on, man. If President Trump wants to address this, you can very simply say,
568. 32:17We cannot release this information because it includes people who may or may not have committed a crime,
569. 32:24but we don't have evidence that it substantiates whether or not they committed a crime.
570. 32:27We don't want to release something that can unnecessarily cause innocent people to suffer.
571. 32:33Or you can do it the opposite direction.
572. 32:35Only release what you have that's evidence of criminality.
573. 32:38But to tell the American people, oh, there's nothing.
574. 32:41It doesn't exist after your people said it did.
575. 32:46I think it's a misstep and it will have enduring impact if he doesn't make the adjustment timely in a timely manner.
576. 32:56Some would say truth is relative and to the world that's right.
577. 33:03What the world considers to be truth fluctuates depending on the narrative they're trying to promote.
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598. 34:15Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton the Third.
599. 34:17We're going to open the phone lines this segment 888 589
600. 34:21is the number to call. That's not the whole number. 888-589-8840 is the number to call. That is 888-589-8840.
601. 34:33Two questions on the table. Chip and join the games. What is going on? Or Epstein files.
602. 34:42What do you think? I want to hear what you have to say about these issues. And what I'm saying
603. 34:47in President Trump's underestimation that many of his supporters are people who are like me,
604. 34:52you know, saying, man, the laptop, the Lexi was told, all these other kind of things, conspiracy theory
605. 34:59turned verifiable evidence over and over and over and over again. And, and I feel like the president's
606. 35:09dis not just dismissal, but castigating people were concerned about it. I think it's a mistake. And
607. 35:16I think even today, speaker Mike Johnson, Speaker House came out saying, now we need more
608. 35:22transparency there. I mean, you literally have Max Well sitting in prison right now.
609. 35:27You know, what is what the world is going on? But so to the phone lights we go, we will
610. 35:32start in Louisiana where Leslie is on the line. Leslie, thank you for calling the Hamilton
611. 35:37Corner. Welcome to the program. Hi, I'm you. I'm doing well. How are you? I'm great. Do
612. 35:45I really have an ability to add anything to what you said before the commercial break?
613. 35:51I bet you can.
614. 35:52I'm just not sure.
615. 35:55So it seems to me that the president is underestimating how much the Epstein secrecy could potentially
616. 36:13damaged his reputation and the administration's reputation. Because that elected for transparency
617. 36:25and we want all these people and these people in administration, it's a dawn of a new day.
618. 36:32Well, it doesn't look like the dawn of a new day.
619. 36:37So, and it seems as though in the last five, six years, so many things have been swept under
620. 36:46the rug that I think a lot of people view it as more of the same and it makes them very
621. 36:51uncomfortable.
622. 36:54It certainly makes me uncomfortable and I'm not terribly focused on Jeffrey Epstein, but
623. 37:00it seems to me that it goes back to the, if you'll be dishonest and a little, you'll be
624. 37:06be dishonest in a lot.
625. 37:07So there's a way to handle it,
626. 37:11but I don't think this is it.
627. 37:13Well said Leslie, I think there are a lot of people
628. 37:16who agree with what you said.
629. 37:17It's not people are hot to try to buy Epstein the person,
630. 37:21but much of the support for President Trump,
631. 37:24and I wanna be clear about something,
632. 37:26to date the Trump administration has been
633. 37:28the most transparent administration,
634. 37:30certainly in my lifetime, if not in history.
635. 37:33And they've done a lot of things that have been right.
636. 37:35And this doesn't nullify the things that they've done well, things they've done right.
637. 37:40But this is not being handled properly.
638. 37:41And I do think it's a mistake and it's going to cause, I really think this has the potential,
639. 37:48if not handled better going forward.
640. 37:50I think this has the potential to blunt momentum.
641. 37:53And if you've been listening to me, you know, I've said President Trump needed to operate
642. 37:57in this administration to attempt to set up those who come behind him because he only
643. 38:02has one term.
644. 38:03I think this has the potential to kind of blunt the momentum that he had been generating in
645. 38:11the Oval Office for those who might come after him.
646. 38:14Back to the phone lines.
647. 38:15You guys have heard what I had to say.
648. 38:16Let's hear what you have to say.
649. 38:17We'll go now to Tennessee where Shirley is on the line.
650. 38:20Shirley, thank you for calling the Hamilton Corner.
651. 38:22Welcome to the program.
652. 38:23Thank you for taking my call.
653. 38:25I absolutely agree with everything you said.
654. 38:27I just had two quick points.
655. 38:29One, Gellaine Maxwell, as I understand, is no longer in regular prison.
656. 38:33and sweetheart prison where they're really told every day and give you care to y'all.
657. 38:38And so he's not unhappy.
658. 38:41Two, my feeling overall is even when we get to the bottom of if we ever get to the bottom everything,
659. 38:49who's going to jail? I mean it just seems like the Bidens are still out, the cleanser out,
660. 38:53the Obama's are out, the Sorrows is out, with the list is long and there's more criminals out here
661. 38:59with us then in jail. So it seems like after all of said and done nothing really is going
662. 39:08to be resolved. I hope I'm wrong.
663. 39:11Surely I think a lot of people agree with you and there's hopes that it won't end up this
664. 39:16way. I mentioned you mentioned George Soros. There's a story out today that as much as Zora
665. 39:22Momdani, he's on TV saying there should be no billionaires. Pretty interesting. Reported
666. 39:27without today that George Soros spent $37 million on his election through lefty organizations
667. 39:34and outfits that support him.
668. 39:36I ain't never seen Zaron Mamdani say, no, I don't want Soros spending that money on my election.
669. 39:43And he's just out and about doing this thing.
670. 39:46And it has a potential to cause it to be like that J.D. that you're saying, is anybody ever
671. 39:52going to be held accountable?
672. 39:54We're having evidence that like many of us know that the lights might have been on
673. 40:00But nobody was home when mr. Joseph Robinette was in the White House
674. 40:05And now more evidence is coming out to substantiate that notion
675. 40:08Is anybody going to be held accountable and the lack of that accountability is one of the things that had a lot of the american people frustrated
676. 40:15Which is why I think president trump had the the election that he had
677. 40:20But I think he could be cutting off his nose. So to speak despite his face
678. 40:23longer term back to the phone lines we go next to North Carolina where Pamela is
679. 40:31on the line Pamela welcome to the Hamilton corner go right ahead. Well good
680. 40:35evening brother it's a pleasure to be talking with you. As a victim of sexual
681. 40:43abuse this does bother me only because and I think the reason why you're so upset
682. 40:52because as Christians we're not supposed to have any appearance of evil and
683. 40:57This is really got a very dark appearance of evil in my opinion
684. 41:05And we see in scripture where he tells us in Ephesians that we're not we're not fighting against
685. 41:12Black and blood but rulers against powers against the world forces of this present darkness
686. 41:18So it's very dark what's going on.
687. 41:22And when I think of what did you say the man's name was?
688. 41:26He was attorney general in Florida that gave
689. 41:30Epstein the fluolial.
690. 41:32Oh, Alex Acosta.
691. 41:34He actually worked for President Trump in his first term.
692. 41:39And this came up in his confirmation hearing too
693. 41:41in his first term.
694. 41:42Yeah.
695. 41:43And that very much always concerned me
696. 41:47as to why President Trump would have him on his cabinet.
697. 41:53That is a good point.
698. 41:54That is a good point.
699. 41:55That is one of the things that brought these things to the fore
700. 41:58when President Trump ran initially.
701. 41:59That plea deal all of a sudden, I mean,
702. 42:03like, you guys know I prosecuted major fellowness
703. 42:05for a long time.
704. 42:06I've never seen that kind of deal offered to somebody alleged
705. 42:09to have been involved with illicit sexual activity
706. 42:14with a minor.
707. 42:15Never have I seen anything like that.
708. 42:18You make good points. Back to the phone lines we go.
709. 42:20We'll go now to Arkansas, where Jim is on the line.
710. 42:24Jim, thank you for calling the Hamilton corner.
711. 42:25Welcome to the program.
712. 42:27Yes, sir. Thank you so much.
713. 42:32Let me say this.
714. 42:34Trump was a Democrat way before he was a Republican.
715. 42:38And he missed.
716. 42:41Now, if you talk to Frank, Frank, quite in Graham,
717. 42:45Trump has changed a lot, but he needs to release this.
718. 42:51The American people, especially people that believe in Trump,
719. 42:56will understand he's made a mistake
720. 42:58if anything like this ever happened.
721. 43:01But we need to release it if it's good people that's on it.
722. 43:07Sorry if they're guilty, they're guilty.
723. 43:10If they're not, they're not.
724. 43:11But it needs to be taken care of today,
725. 43:15not tomorrow today.
726. 43:17Right?
727. 43:18Jim said today, not tomorrow, today.
728. 43:22I understand I understand your sentiment.
729. 43:24I am sensitive, however, to the idea that this has the potential to it could, depending on
730. 43:31what the information is and how it's released, it could have a negative impact on people who
731. 43:36have not, there's not evidence of them committing any wrongdoing.
732. 43:40I'm sensitive to that, but you need to say that.
733. 43:43You can't just say, oh, there is no list in.
734. 43:46Why do you even care about it?
735. 43:47You can't really say that.
736. 43:51Back to the phone lines.
737. 43:52We'll go next to Kansas where Phil is on the line.
738. 43:55Phil is gonna change it up a little bit.
739. 43:56Phil, thank you for calling the Hamilton Corner.
740. 43:57Go right ahead.
741. 43:59Hey, thank you.
742. 44:00I enjoy your show.
743. 44:02On the dip and join situation.
744. 44:06I was kind of taking back while I was taking back.
745. 44:09I didn't know anything about it,
746. 44:10I heard it from you and kind of brings,
747. 44:14to me, it kind of brings dearest, every approach to the name of God. If you do that kind of
748. 44:19thing, if you kind of set it slide or condone that kind of thing, I just, I don't know, I
749. 44:27don't watch an FTV in the whole 10 hour a week, but I enjoyed watching them because it was a
750. 44:33good thing. I thought it was positive and Christian family and so on. But I don't know, I, it,
751. 44:41But you made the comment it's tough for you on a public format then to convince folks
752. 44:47Jesus is the way.
753. 44:49And that's so true because oh yeah, the name of God we can do this.
754. 44:54No, we can't.
755. 44:55Yeah, very good.
756. 44:57Well said Phil, thank you for your call in your comments.
757. 45:01Very well said.
758. 45:03Very well said.
759. 45:04We'll go next to Kentucky where Frank is on the line.
760. 45:07Frank, thank you for calling Hamilton Corner.
761. 45:09Welcome to the program.
762. 45:10Yes, I think, I think President Trump needs to come out and say, has been a mistake made.
763. 45:20We all have made mistakes.
764. 45:22We all make mistakes on a constant basis sometimes.
765. 45:27But he ought to come out and say, I'm sorry about it.
766. 45:31And it's been a mistake made.
767. 45:34know uh...
768. 45:36i don't really don't believe that
769. 45:39uh...
770. 45:39not just has been done was
771. 45:42uh... negative
772. 45:44but uh... he's a good for that and see
773. 45:47uh...
774. 45:48uh...
775. 45:48it's been a mistake made and then it was that
776. 45:51i think you frank for calling i mean
777. 45:53he wants about a mistake made and the attorney general
778. 45:56is the chief of the executive branch is
779. 45:59justice arm
780. 46:02justice
781. 46:04We have a circumstance where the President Trump's attorney general said,
782. 46:08I have the Epstein client list on my desk.
783. 46:11And now that same department of justice is saying that there is no Epstein client
784. 46:15list. How can the American public had confidence in the pursuit of justice when
785. 46:22the head of the department of justice, either lied or is lying?
786. 46:28I mean, that's what it comes down to.
787. 46:32And let's be clear about it.
788. 46:34It's President Trump's attorney general.
789. 46:37It's not like, you know, Pam Bondi is a free agent. She is over here. She serves the President Trump's
790. 46:42behest. And I'm not saying that this nullifies everything else he's done. It doesn't. But it is,
791. 46:48I would argue it's an unforced error. It's an unnecessary stain on his administration currently.
792. 46:56Let's go now to Texas where Ryan is on the line. Ryan, thank you for calling the Hamilton corner.
793. 47:00Welcome to the program.
794. 47:01For your boldness and your public venue, for one thing that I want to comment that, you know,
795. 47:09President Trump, I can't say that I would have been friends with him on a personal basis,
796. 47:14but I appreciate the policies that he's put in place and the way that God has used him.
797. 47:20But I think it's safe to say that his perception by his public would not necessarily change
798. 47:26from, because he's made some mistakes already in his past and that everyone knows about.
799. 47:32And I don't know that this would necessarily change that.
800. 47:35but I think that there's also indications that
801. 47:37there's some prominent members of upper members
802. 47:40of both parties that are probably implicated in this.
803. 47:43Otherwise, there will be a rolling tide on one side
804. 47:47or another against this to happen.
805. 47:49And it's not coming out.
806. 47:50There's not really being a hard push
807. 47:52except what seems to be from conservative Christians
808. 47:55because they want to know the truth.
809. 47:58Anyway, that's my perception of this
810. 47:59and I'd like to hear what you think about it.
811. 48:01Yeah, well, my first response is Ryan,
812. 48:03for dinner because you think you cooking with Greece.
813. 48:06Remember when I played the Congressman Tim Bertrand from Tennessee when he said whatever
814. 48:12Elon Musk is doing he better do it now because when you start digging you're gonna find out
815. 48:16people from both aisles on both sides are implicated and they're gonna try to stop what
816. 48:20you're trying to do.
817. 48:22I think you raise some very very valuable concerns but you know I do think he risks this
818. 48:30having a lasting more lasting impact than I think he is currently assessing.
819. 48:35We'll go back to Arkansas now where Bruce is on the line.
820. 48:39Bruce, thank you for calling the Hamilton Corner.
821. 48:41The disrespectful music is starting.
822. 48:43So you have like 20 seconds, Bruce.
823. 48:45All right.
824. 48:46All right, Dave.
825. 48:47Thanks.
826. 48:48I watched a lot of HTTP and watched Chip and Joanna and I like the programming.
827. 48:53I never thought of them as being pastors or biblical teachers.
828. 48:57I'm not surprised the LGBT folks got told and there's taken the easy way.
829. 49:02Mmm.
830. 49:03Bruce, thank you for your calling your comments.
831. 49:05But that didn't make you sad though.
832. 49:07Yet I agree with you.
833. 49:08I never sought them out as theological bastions to guide me in the way of proper biblical exposition
834. 49:17and exegesis.
835. 49:18But if you come out publicly saying you're Christian, I want you to really be Christian.
836. 49:23And I'm not saying that they're not Christians, but I'm saying I want you to adhere to what
837. 49:27the scripture teaches instead of using your platform to advance what God declares to be
838. 49:32abominable. Thank you for all the callers and the people holding them. Sorry. But we ran
839. 49:36out of time. Y'all have a great evening. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast
840. 49:42may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family Association or American Family Radio.