("Best-of" Edition from 3/8/24) Heidi St. John, Speaker, Author, Podcast Host, Co-Founder of Firmly Planted Homeschool Resource Center, steps into “The Corner.”

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1. 0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
2. 0:02It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
3. 0:06This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
4. 0:10It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite.
5. 0:15Delivering people out of the bondage of mainstream media.
6. 0:18And the philosophies of this world.
7. 0:20God has called you and me to be his ambassador.
8. 0:23Even in this dark moment.
9. 0:26Let's not miss our moment.
10. 0:28And now the Hamilton Corner.
11. 0:32Good evening everyone.
12. 0:34Welcome to the Hamilton Corner here on American Family Radio.
13. 0:37I am your host Abraham Hamilton the third.
14. 0:40I am joined by producer extraordinaire, J. Mac.
15. 0:43Man in the controls when we're ready to get going.
16. 0:45And I guess I should add, he is still often imitated
17. 0:48but never duplicated.
18. 0:49I know, you know, many still try.
19. 0:52We know how that ends up.
20. 0:54But we are ready to rock and roll with today's edition
21. 0:56of the program.
22. 0:58At this very moment, many of you, if not most of you are transitioning from your part time jobs,
23. 1:01where you generate an income to your full time jobs, your full time jobs are where you cultivate
24. 1:07an outcome. And as you do so, I want to remind you to do so with intentionality, understanding the
25. 1:13primacy that God places on family. The first institution that God created was the family before you get to
26. 1:20an order of prophets, priests, modern iterations of civil government, monarchies, the first institution
27. 1:26that God establishes his family with marriage at the center.
28. 1:30He does that intentionally, the first command that God gave to mankind.
29. 1:34Before you get to, you show not murder, before you get to, you show not steal,
30. 1:38before you get to, you show not covet.
31. 1:40The first command that God gave to mankind was given within the familial context.
32. 1:45These observational facts from the scripture communicate the primacy that God places on family.
33. 1:52It's not a surprise that the commission, the Great Commission, as articulated in the New
34. 1:58Testament context requires the establishment first and foremost of a home base, the fulfilling
35. 2:06the commission in the home base, and then expanding outward from there.
36. 2:11I do not mean to convey that this was the apostles and Jerusalem, that this was all of their homes,
37. 2:19became the home base for the Christian church's ministry and the Great Commission flowed outward
38. 2:26from there. I want to remind you that the scripture teaches very plainly that all believers are
39. 2:32called into ministry. All believers. This clergy-lady distinction is not one that exists for the
40. 2:40purposes that cause you if you identify yourself as non-clergy, to mean that you are disengaged
41. 2:46from obeying the Lord's call to ministry.
42. 2:49We are all called to execute our Lord's commission.
43. 2:52You know, I've heard people ask the question,
44. 2:54I've had the question even asked of me
45. 2:56in our church services, we have times for questions and answers.
46. 3:00And I never forget I was asked the question,
47. 3:03whether or not the Great Commission applies to all believers
48. 3:05because it seems to this questioner that it would only apply to Jesus' apostles
49. 3:10in the first century. And I just simply took them to the scripture,
50. 3:14First in Matthew 28, when the Lord says this great commission is to be executed until the end of the
51. 3:21age, until the end of the age. So that was indicative of the fact that this is not something that was
52. 3:26limited to the first century apostles because the first century apostles would not be alive
53. 3:33until the end of the age. And then another biblical source, and these are not exclusive
54. 3:36biblical sources to affirm what I'm telling you, but these are just a few that I want to just give
55. 3:41you. Second Timothy chapter two and Paul's epistle to Timothy. And
56. 3:45this is not the main scripture you're going to share today, but I want you to see this in
57. 3:48second Timothy. If I can get my pages and stop sticking. Second Timothy chapter two while
58. 3:54one Timmy while Paul is in Nero's prison. His execution is shortly to come in second Timothy
59. 4:05chapter two. This is how you know I want to plan to speak of this. You have Paul who gave
60. 4:10this instruction in Timothy.
61. 4:12Second Timothy chapter two, verse one,
62. 4:13you therefore my son,
63. 4:15be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus,
64. 4:18the things that you have heard from me
65. 4:20in the presence of many witnesses,
66. 4:22entrust these two faithful men
67. 4:25who will be able to teach others also.
68. 4:29So here you have the Apostle Paul saying
69. 4:32that I was grounded, I was minister to you,
70. 4:35I was discipled and I poured into you as a disciple, Timothy.
71. 4:39the things that you've heard me teach to you while in the presence of many witnesses.
72. 4:46So you Timothy are aware that I was teaching you, but I wasn't only teaching you.
73. 4:49I was teaching you and other witnesses who were also to go and do likewise.
74. 4:53But the things that you have been taught, Timothy, you now seek out faithful men.
75. 5:00You seek out faithful men and you teach them, you entrust to them,
76. 5:04everything that I've entrusted to you.
77. 5:06And when you seek out these faithful men, look for men who have the capacity to teach others
78. 5:11also.
79. 5:12Simply put, this commission is to continue until the end of the age.
80. 5:18Paul, disciple Timothy, along with others.
81. 5:21Timothy is now being commissioned to disciple others, who are apt to disciple others.
82. 5:26The process is to continue.
83. 5:29That's the point that I'm making.
84. 5:30And this is something that applies to all believers.
85. 5:33All of us are called to be executors of our Lord's commission.
86. 5:39Some of us are more effective at some aspects of it than others, but every single believer
87. 5:44is called to this.
88. 5:45And we all who are Christians whom God has entrusted to us his heritage, our children,
89. 5:53God expects us to pour into them of first import.
90. 5:59The first outlet for my miniscule engagement outside of my personal commitment to the Lord
91. 6:05is my wife and my children.
92. 6:08I have a duty, as Ephesians 5 lays out, to wash my wife for the water of the Word.
93. 6:13I have a duty to rear my children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
94. 6:17Ephesians 6, when it says, fathers, fathers, do not exasperate your children rather.
95. 6:23Rear them in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
96. 6:25This is a command of God.
97. 6:26I am accountable to him for the quality with which my children are reared.
98. 6:33Discipleship is central to my mandate as a father because I am to make sure my
99. 6:39children are read in the, the pidea and nuthisia of our Lord.
100. 6:46You are accountable to the Lord just as I am for what you do with his heritage,
101. 6:52that he entrusted your care.
102. 6:53This is why I say on a daily basis, what goes on in your house is far more
103. 6:58important than what goes on in the White House.
104. 7:01The things that are beyond our control,
105. 7:03we shouldn't allow ourselves to be fixated on those things.
106. 7:06The things that are within our control,
107. 7:08we must respond to with an excellence
108. 7:10that is indicative of our worship quality unto our Lord,
109. 7:13praise God.
110. 7:14Second Kings Chapter 6 is where I plan to go.
111. 7:16I didn't plan to spend all that time on that,
112. 7:18but that's what the Lord took me.
113. 7:20Second Kings Chapter 6 is where I wanna go today.
114. 7:23And I want to communicate to you and with you
115. 7:29from this portion of scripture.
116. 7:31as a simple reminder of our God's power to refuse to allow the circumstances that
117. 7:39transpire around us and that are happening within our nation to cause us
118. 7:43to become hopeless as it pertains to our confidence in the Lord.
119. 7:47Second King, chapter six, verse 24, and I'm going to go all the way through chapter
120. 7:51seven, verses one and two. All right. Now, what came about after this, that
121. 7:56Benedict, the king of Aerum, gathered all his army and went up and besieged
122. 8:01Samaria and there was a great famine in Samaria and behold they besieged it until the donkeys
123. 8:07here was sold for 80 shekels of silver and a fourth of a cab of a doves dung for five
124. 8:15shekels of silver.
125. 8:16Now a shekel was about 11 grams, a cab was about two quarts there about.
126. 8:22So a quarter of that was being sold for five shekels of silver, a quarter of a cab of doves
127. 8:28dung was being sold for five shekels of silver. Simply put, Israel was suffering overwhelming
128. 8:34inflation as a result of being besieged by the Syrian army. I'm sorry, by the Aramaic
129. 8:40army, the Syrian army. And the siege, what it is basically, is that the Syrian army surrounds
130. 8:47the nation of Israel and primarily the capital city of Samaria at this time and does not allow
131. 8:53anything to be imported into the city nor does it allow anything to be exported. And
132. 8:58So it's basically choking off supply lines that over time
133. 9:02will cause death, poverty, and destruction
134. 9:05within the city, that's what the siege is.
135. 9:07And oftentimes that this was the chosen act of warfare
136. 9:12because it minimized the besieging army soldiers
137. 9:17to exposure to battle.
138. 9:19So you lay the siege, you're not contained
139. 9:22with an army in the plains or anything,
140. 9:24you're choking off the city and literally starving it to death,
141. 9:27which is what happened in Israel here.
142. 9:29Cause this famine lasted for seven years.
143. 9:31This wasn't just, you know, a two week siege.
144. 9:34This famine in Israel lasted seven years, or verse 26.
145. 9:39As the king of Israel was passing by on the wall,
146. 9:42a woman cried out to him saying,
147. 9:44help my Lord, O King.
148. 9:46He said, if the Lord does not help you from where shall I help you?
149. 9:50From the threshing floor or from the wine press?
150. 9:52And the king said to her, what does the matter with you?
151. 9:54And she answered, this woman said to me,
152. 9:57And this is, I have to give a caution.
153. 10:00This is the word of God, no doubt.
154. 10:02But if you have little ones that are listening,
155. 10:03you may wanna turn them away from them
156. 10:05because it gets very graphic.
157. 10:07And this is in the scripture,
158. 10:08but you may be the one who wanna broach this with your children
159. 10:10and not have me introduce this notion
160. 10:12to your children from scripture, all right?
161. 10:16Verse 28 again, and the king said to her,
162. 10:18what does it matter with you?
163. 10:19And she answered, this woman said to me,
164. 10:21give me your son that we may eat him today.
165. 10:25And we'll eat my son tomorrow.
166. 10:28So we boiled my son and ate him.
167. 10:29And I said to her on the next day,
168. 10:31give your son that we may eat him,
169. 10:33but she has hidden her son.
170. 10:36When the king heard the words of the woman,
171. 10:37he tore his robes.
172. 10:40Now he was passing by on the wall,
173. 10:41and the people looked and behold,
174. 10:42he had sack cloth beneath his body.
175. 10:44Now there's a lot that can be said about all of that.
176. 10:47The king has a sack cloth beneath his body,
177. 10:49that should be an expression of lament and woe
178. 10:51and crying out to the Lord, but he's hiding it.
179. 10:53There's much to be said about that,
180. 10:54but I won't address that today.
181. 10:58I wanna address the reality that the Bible records,
182. 11:02things got so bad in Israel as a result of the Syrian army siege that cannibalism was
183. 11:11engaged in in Israel.
184. 11:14Now before anybody whacked shocked at that, if you're at home following along with your
185. 11:19Bible, turn over to Deuteronomy chapter 28 verses 52 through 55 because in Deuteronomy
186. 11:26chapter 28, among the consequences for rebelling against God, and he spoke this through Moses,
187. 11:34The Lord prophetically warned the Israelites
188. 11:37that if you rebel against me,
189. 11:39things will at certain points get so bad
190. 11:42that even in Israel, you result to cannibalism.
191. 11:48What was prophesied in Deuteronomy is being fulfilled
192. 11:51in what we're reading here in 2nd and 2nd, King chapter 6.
193. 11:55That inflation had taken root, the siege had been imposed,
194. 11:59things were so bad there was no food in Israel.
195. 12:05This is included in the scripture
196. 12:07to communicate to you two things.
197. 12:08One, God's word is true.
198. 12:10Would he prophetically, prophetically declared in Deuteronomy,
199. 12:14is fulfilled centuries later in 2 Kings 6.
200. 12:21Secondarily he wanted wants us to know
201. 12:23how bad things have gotten in Israel.
202. 12:31Verse 30 again,
203. 12:32"'When the king heard the words of the woman,
204. 12:33"'he tore his clothes, now he's passing by on the wall,
205. 12:35"'and the people looked to behold,
206. 12:37"'he had sackcloth beneath on his body.'"
207. 12:40The king now at this time is Jehoram,
208. 12:42the second oldest king of, second oldest son of Ahab.
209. 12:45All right, verse 31,
210. 12:46then he said, may God do so to me,
211. 12:48and more also, if the head of Elisha,
212. 12:51the son of Shafat remains on him today.
213. 12:56So in light of the famine,
214. 12:57the king is mad at Elisha.
215. 12:59Why?
216. 13:00Couple of points.
217. 13:02Johorim being the second oldest king,
218. 13:04second oldest son of Ahab,
219. 13:06he was alive when Ahab was contending with Elijah.
220. 13:12He was alive when Elijah,
221. 13:15his exploits ended a three year, three and a half year famine.
222. 13:20In addition to that,
223. 13:21King Jehoram most likely is aware
224. 13:24when there was a famine among the sons of the prophets
225. 13:27and Elisha had them to put flour into the poisonous stew
226. 13:35back in Second Kings chapter four.
227. 13:38So Jehoram often most likely thought,
228. 13:40well, Elisha could end it if he wanted to,
229. 13:42so I'm gonna kill him, let's continue on.
230. 13:44Now, Elisha was sitting in his house,
231. 13:46which was in dothin and the elders was sitting with him
232. 13:48and the king sent a man from his presence.
233. 13:50But before the messenger came to him,
234. 13:52Elisha said to the elders,
235. 13:53do you see how this son of a murderer
236. 13:55has sent to take away my head?
237. 13:57Look, when the messenger comes shut the door
238. 13:58and hold the door shut against him.
239. 14:00It's not the sound of his master's feet behind him.
240. 14:03While he was still talking with him,
241. 14:04behold the messenger came down to him and said,
242. 14:07behold this evil is from the Lord.
243. 14:08Why should we wait on the Lord any longer?
244. 14:10Then Elisha said, listen to the word of the Lord.
245. 14:14Tomorrow, about this time,
246. 14:16measure of flower will be sold for a
247. 14:18shackle and two measures of barley for a
248. 14:20shackle in the gates of Samaria. Simply put,
249. 14:24by this time tomorrow the famine will be
250. 14:26over. The famine will be over. What happens
251. 14:29after this? The lepers walk toward the
252. 14:31Syrian military. God amplifies the
253. 14:33footsteps the Syrians flee. And just as
254. 14:36the Lord said through Elisha, the famine
255. 14:38was over in the day. My main point that I
256. 14:40want to make to you today is do not
257. 14:43forget the power of our God. Do not
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272. 16:10Shiting light into the darkness. This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
273. 16:15Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner Abraham Hamilton the third here. I am honored to have
274. 16:19on the program with me. My guest right now who is an author of nine books, including becoming
275. 16:26mom strong, how to fight with all that's in you for your family and your faith. The becoming
276. 16:31mom strong Bible study, as well as her latest mom strong 365, which is a one year devotional
277. 16:37to encourage and empower everyday moms, as well as her first children's book, The Mouse
278. 16:41and to see with Brave Brooks.
279. 16:43Brave books, I'm sorry.
280. 16:44She's also a speaker, a powerful dynamic speaker.
281. 16:48She's also a podcast host as well as co-founder
282. 16:52of an amazing work in the Pacific Northwest,
283. 16:55firmly planted homeschool resource center.
284. 16:58My guess is none other than Miss Heidi St. John.
285. 17:01Heidi, thank you so much for joining me
286. 17:03on the Hamilton Corner.
287. 17:04Abraham, it's so great to see you.
288. 17:06Thanks for having me.
289. 17:07Oh, it is certainly, certainly, certainly my pleasure.
290. 17:09You and your husband, Jai, are just such a tremendous blessing
291. 17:13to the body of Christ.
292. 17:14I'm so grateful that our past have crossed,
293. 17:16but I've told you when I met you first
294. 17:18that I was familiar with your work before we'd ever met,
295. 17:20because I've been able to appreciate you from a distance,
296. 17:22and now the Lord has crossed our past.
297. 17:24And so I am grateful for that.
298. 17:26And I am also grateful to be able to introduce you
299. 17:29to our audience here.
300. 17:31Many of them are familiar with you.
301. 17:32Some of them may not be.
302. 17:33And so I think this is a great opportunity
303. 17:35all across the board for them to get familiar with you
304. 17:38the work that God is doing through you all over the country, all over the world frankly,
305. 17:42but as well as in the Pacific Northwest.
306. 17:45Well, I'm excited to be here.
307. 17:47I've been looking forward to this.
308. 17:49Exciting to see what God's doing with you.
309. 17:51There's just, you know, people keep griping and complaining about what a, you know, what
310. 17:54a crazy upside down world we're living in.
311. 17:57And that's true, but God's also at work and he's doing good things through you.
312. 18:01So I'm excited to be here.
313. 18:02Amen.
314. 18:03Praise God.
315. 18:04Well, I want to begin because similar to myself, I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum.
316. 18:07My wife and I, Maria, we have six children.
317. 18:10We are a homeschooling family.
318. 18:11I know you, all of your children, you and your husband, Jay, have had seven children.
319. 18:15But now you have grand children.
320. 18:17Yes.
321. 18:18But we do share that in common.
322. 18:20I first want to start our conversation today by simply inviting you to share with our audience
323. 18:25here.
324. 18:26How did you come to Faith in Jesus Christ?
325. 18:28Well, I actually grew up in a Christian home.
326. 18:32And if people have read my book, Becoming Mom Strong, they know that it was an unhappy
327. 18:35my parents divorced when I was 18,
328. 18:39but I came to faith in Christ, my grandmother,
329. 18:41actually led me to the Lord.
330. 18:43I went to a private Christian school,
331. 18:45kindergarten through high school all the way through,
332. 18:48and I remember, and I love to talk to people about it,
333. 18:50because I believe, you know, I was saved,
334. 18:53and I was very, very young.
335. 18:53Probably around four years old, five years old,
336. 18:55somewhere in there, and I remember it.
337. 18:57I remember, you know, being sorry for my sin,
338. 19:00I remember just thinking, man, he loves me, you know,
339. 19:02he loves me.
340. 19:03And I also can still smell the month later
341. 19:05on my grandmother's chest.
342. 19:07Thank you.
343. 19:07You know, leaning over me at night and praying over me
344. 19:10and introducing me to the Savior.
345. 19:13And so I've been, you know, working at, walking with the Lord
346. 19:17and getting to know Him better now for a long time.
347. 19:22Well, praise God.
348. 19:23I am grateful for that and the journey you've been on.
349. 19:26And I know there's a lot of ground to cover
350. 19:28and only so much time to get to you.
351. 19:31How did you come to the place where one,
352. 19:33how and where do you and Jay meet and then how did you guys come to the place where you
353. 19:36considered homeschooling your children? Well, we met actually in Bible College. So Jay
354. 19:42went to Multnomah School the Bible and so did I in the late 80s when you know we were all
355. 19:48enjoying the good rock and roll music of the 80s and we met through mutual friend at Bible College
356. 19:56in probably 1987 or 88 and we were married in the fall of 89. I never wanted to homeschool
357. 20:03I, it's probably important for me to say that.
358. 20:06I, I knew a few people that were homeschooling.
359. 20:08I thought they were absolutely insane and a little bit on the weird side.
360. 20:11And there was a, like, proselytizing, you know, so my kids, my oldest daughter,
361. 20:15who's 32 now, she was in a private Christian school, the same one that I went to.
362. 20:19And I remember just people trying to get me to take her out of school and, and
363. 20:22homeschool.
364. 20:23And I was like, why would I do that?
365. 20:24And then it got to be expensive.
366. 20:26We couldn't keep doing it.
367. 20:27I just remember still thinking, why would a sane woman in a right mind want to stay
368. 20:31home all day long when a yellow bus come take your kids away for free. It was just my,
369. 20:35it was my paradigm, right? It's, it's what I understood. But the Lord really got a hold
370. 20:40of my heart when she was in second grade and our second daughter was getting ready to go
371. 20:44into school and she missed the cutoff by just a couple of weeks. And so they wouldn't take
372. 20:49her and I had this just really bright and inquisitive, you know, little five year old and I was like,
373. 20:53dude, she's ready to learn. So I went down to a homeschool supply store just to like kill
374. 20:58time and I said, Hey, I'm looking for something I can do with my daughter.
375. 21:03And they gave me a book called teacher child to read in a hundred easy lessons.
376. 21:06And in that learning while her older sister was in school, I was teaching her to read and
377. 21:11I realized I'm accomplishing in an hour and a half with her every day.
378. 21:15What is taking this school, you know, eight hours every day, five days a week, nine months
379. 21:20out of the year.
380. 21:21And God just started doing to work in my heart.
381. 21:23And I realized, you know, I started praying about it.
382. 21:26And I realized this job of educating children was never something that was meant to be outsourced
383. 21:33in the way that we outsourced it today.
384. 21:35In other words, parents just drop their kids off and sort of check out, right?
385. 21:38Mom, dad, go to work.
386. 21:40Kids days with what is really just a glorified babysitter all day long and hopefully they get
387. 21:44an education out of it.
388. 21:46Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.
389. 21:48And we at the end of toward the end of that year, I went to my husband and said, what would
390. 21:52you think if we homeschooled our kids?
391. 21:54And I'll never forget, he was just like,
392. 21:55who are you?
393. 21:56What have you done with my wife?
394. 21:57Like we don't want a homeschooler, remember that?
395. 21:59And, but he said he would pray about it.
396. 22:02And as is often, you know, has been the case of our nearly,
397. 22:05you know, 35 year marriage, where he just said,
398. 22:07let me take it to the Lord.
399. 22:09And it was just a few weeks later, he said, yeah,
400. 22:11I'm here in the same thing you're hearing.
401. 22:12And so we pulled our oldest daughter out of public school
402. 22:15and the rest of our kids have all been exclusively homeschooled.
403. 22:19So, yeah, kind of an accidental homeschooler,
404. 22:22best decision that we ever made.
405. 22:23Yeah, and you said your husband initially was not open to it,
406. 22:28but he committed to pray about it,
407. 22:31which I think is a vital, vital, vital component
408. 22:34of your deliberations because I've had conversations
409. 22:36and pretty sure as you have had,
410. 22:38where people will often offer their response,
411. 22:41just kind of an emotional response sometimes
412. 22:43and kind of a knee-jerk reaction
413. 22:45without an express willingness to consider and to pray,
414. 22:48well, what would the Lord have me to do?
415. 22:50not just what I think, you know, not just in imposing on the conversation,
416. 22:55my preexisting thought processes, but to see what is the Lord,
417. 22:59could the Lord be at work right now with this conversation that we're having,
418. 23:02the conversation that we're having, even inviting me to consider whether or not I need to make a
419. 23:07change in the way that we're educating our children. And when you and Jay were having this
420. 23:12conversation, you didn't have drag queen story hours going on. You didn't have planned,
421. 23:18who had funded curriculum to teach sex ed to children
422. 23:21what expressed purpose is of many of the progenters
423. 23:26of this curriculum are to get innocent children
424. 23:29to become stimulated sexually
425. 23:30so that you could have a more robust opportunities
426. 23:33to collect money to kill children.
427. 23:37And it involves an industry.
428. 23:39Yeah, it's really true.
429. 23:40And I tell people a lot, you know, I mean, God's been good
430. 23:43to Jay and I, and we have, you know,
431. 23:45our seven children are 20 years apart.
432. 23:47So I have a 32 year old and a 13 year old and I'm raising my 13 year old daughter in a vastly
433. 23:53different world.
434. 23:55Then I raised my 32 and 30 and 27 and 25 year old kids in the world looks different and we
435. 24:02need to respond to it that way.
436. 24:04You know, I hear people say, well, I went to public school.
437. 24:06Listen, the public school that you went to is a shadow of what it is now and you're absolutely
438. 24:13right.
439. 24:14targeting children and they're injuring them.
440. 24:16Body, soul, mind, and spirit.
441. 24:18And I've been urging parents now for 20 some odd years,
442. 24:21get your children out of these schools,
443. 24:23they're hurting your kids.
444. 24:25And that is such a profound statement.
445. 24:27And many people received that as a provocative statement,
446. 24:30why are you so passionate and so emphatically able to state,
447. 24:34get your children out of these schools?
448. 24:36Well, because I know what's going on inside the schools.
449. 24:39So, you know, probably about eight years ago,
450. 24:41I started going to school board meetings
451. 24:44when I heard about something called
452. 24:45comprehensive sex education.
453. 24:47Well, now everyone knows about it,
454. 24:48but at that moment, it was a relatively new idea.
455. 24:51And I remember thinking,
456. 24:52we're not opposed to sex ed, right?
457. 24:53You wanna teach our kids how their bodies work
458. 24:55and how babies are made and whatever.
459. 24:57I think that's the parent's job,
460. 24:59but I wasn't inherently opposed to sex ed in schools.
461. 25:02That this is not your generations
462. 25:05or my generation sex ed.
463. 25:06This is radically bent toward the homosexual lifestyle,
464. 25:11pushing the transgender ideology.
465. 25:13And I started meeting parents out on the road.
466. 25:15I'm speaking at home school conferences.
467. 25:16I've been doing it for 20 some odd years.
468. 25:19I started meeting parents,
469. 25:20whose kids have been in the public school,
470. 25:22who have literally been injured by this ideology,
471. 25:24come home from school and decided,
472. 25:26they're born in the wrong body.
473. 25:27Because we're pushing through scholastic books
474. 25:30through Planned Parenthood,
475. 25:31who really is the purveyor,
476. 25:33as you rightly pointed out,
477. 25:34of most of the sex ed curriculum that's in our schools.
478. 25:37And so I started going to school board meetings
479. 25:39and testify went up to the Washington State Legislature
480. 25:42and I testified in front of the superintendent
481. 25:46of public instruction for Washington State schools.
482. 25:48And I said, this stuff does not be long in our schools.
483. 25:51It is radicalizing children.
484. 25:52It's indoctrinating them.
485. 25:54Brainwashing them actually is a better word.
486. 25:57And I started realizing, okay,
487. 25:59they're not, because I used to softshoe it, Abraham, honestly.
488. 26:02If someone would have said to me,
489. 26:04hey, you homeschool, I would have said,
490. 26:05hey, you do you, is homeschooling, it's not for everyone.
491. 26:08And now I'm like, the barn's on fire, the Titanic is sinking.
492. 26:11At what point do we get our kids off of the boat and into lifeboats?
493. 26:15And these schools are hurting our children.
494. 26:17And all you gotta do is get on TikTok or Instagram or Facebook or any of the other social media
495. 26:21platforms or half a second.
496. 26:23And you'll see that what I'm saying is true.
497. 26:25And if we care about our children, then we should care about who's teaching them.
498. 26:29Jesus said in Luke 640, when a student is fully trained, you'll be like his teacher.
499. 26:32Well, then we better know who's teaching our children, right?
500. 26:34We should know who's teaching our children.
501. 26:37And I think in large part, this society in Western civilization has decided that outsourcing
502. 26:43parent, outsourcing our parenting and the education of our children should be the norm.
503. 26:47That's what we should do.
504. 26:49But if we really take a look at it and we recognize and we're honest, we have to say we
505. 26:53don't know who's educating our children.
506. 26:55We don't know the world be these guys are coming in from.
507. 26:57We don't know how they think about any kind of sexual ideology.
508. 27:00We don't know how they think about God or creation or our children for that matter.
509. 27:05And most of these teachers now are activists disguised as teachers.
510. 27:10And parents need to understand that this is happening to their children.
511. 27:14And if you care about your kids, you're going to do some digging.
512. 27:17So well said.
513. 27:18So well said.
514. 27:19And I resonate with you because in my journey, I used to be reluctant to tell somebody else
515. 27:26what I think they should do.
516. 27:27I didn't want to be self-righteous and pose my convictions for anybody else.
517. 27:31when you see the barn literally is on fire,
518. 27:35and there are several things that happened
519. 27:38and Marie and I and our journey, one of them,
520. 27:42and you mentioned a Planned Parenthood curriculum,
521. 27:44they're literally right now as we're talking,
522. 27:45is a new edition of Sex Edge Curriculum
523. 27:49that is funded by and crafted by
524. 27:51a combination of Planned Parenthood,
525. 27:53Glisten, the Gay Lesbian, Straight Education Network,
526. 27:55and several other LGBTQIAP plus
527. 27:59element of PX, YZ organizations coming together.
528. 28:01The alphabet mafia.
529. 28:02Yes, and they literally are providing video curriculum
530. 28:05where they're teaching lessons like virginity is not real.
531. 28:09There's no such thing as virginity.
532. 28:11I'm dead serious.
533. 28:12There's no such thing as virginity.
534. 28:13It's just a social construct.
535. 28:15Like gender.
536. 28:16Yes, yes, happening right now.
537. 28:19And there was a book that the Lord allowed me to read
538. 28:23years ago, it was called The Scarlet Lady by Carol Everett.
539. 28:26Carol Everett is a sweet lady who had the opportunity
540. 28:28to meet now, she lives in Texas, she used to be an advocate for abortion.
541. 28:33She owned and operated a Planned Parenthood clinic, several clinics,
542. 28:37ultimately in Texas.
543. 28:38And she exposes in the book how Planned Parenthood became the number one lobbying
544. 28:44entity for sex ed curriculums to be imposed in public schools because they
545. 28:49realized a connection between wherever sex ed was taught, they would have a
546. 28:54higher incident of, you know, so-called unplanned pregnancies.
547. 28:58and it would heighten their ability to profit from murdering the babies that these girls,
548. 29:04often high school girls often, were procreating and it was better for their bottom line.
549. 29:10And their strategy was the earlier we can get sex ed taught, the better it is for our
550. 29:16profit margin because we have a higher likelihood to have repeat clients.
551. 29:19This is what they said.
552. 29:21Repeat clients from these children who are taught to be stimulated prior to them knowing anything
553. 29:27even about their own bodies, about anything else.
554. 29:30And so that level of insidious wickedness is what undergirds the sex ed curriculum in
555. 29:37our country and many much of the school system.
556. 29:40Yeah, it's true.
557. 29:41And the other thing that parents need to understand is that they're working hand in hand with legislators
558. 29:46who are trying to reduce the age of consent.
559. 29:50And you'll see that they're teaching in sex ed now.
560. 29:53They're teaching something called consent.
561. 29:54Well, parents will go, that's good.
562. 29:56I want my kids to know that they can say no and they can say yes and we want them to understand
563. 30:01consent.
564. 30:02But what you don't understand most of the time is that the way that we think of consent
565. 30:06is not the way they frame it in this radical sex ed curriculum that they're bringing out.
566. 30:12And in fact, right about the same time in California, for example, that they're teaching about consent,
567. 30:17you've got people like Senator Wiener who's going around and saying we want to lower the
568. 30:22age of consent which makes kids vulnerable to pedophiles. And people say, well that's conspiracy
569. 30:27theory. No, it's not. This is happening in our schools. I'm watching it happen. I have
570. 30:32listened to the testimony of these people. I've listened to the curriculum, watched what's
571. 30:36happening with when a Planned Parenthood goes and testifies before state legislatures.
572. 30:41When they say they want to teach children about consent, they are trying to lower the age
573. 30:45of consent and remove the inhibition of the child. And what happens is you make a child
574. 30:50vulnerable to sexual abuse, to sexual assault, to unplanned pregnancy, all of these things,
575. 30:55and they work hand in glove with each other. It is insidious, and it is in our schools.
576. 31:00You're absolutely right. And it's happening. It's coinciding with the efforts in the mental health
577. 31:05community to remove pedophilia, to rename it, first of all. To rename it.
578. 31:09To minor attracted person. Yes. And I literally play TEDx talks on this show explaining that,
579. 31:14to rename it away from pedophilia to minor attracted persons, but also to assert that minor attraction,
580. 31:20quote unquote, is nothing more than another iteration of sexual orientation.
581. 31:24And so it is to decriminalize it, to destigmatize it and to normalize the idea of children.
582. 31:31Yeah.
583. 31:32I'm getting mad as I'm thinking about this.
584. 31:33I got to call my.
585. 31:34I should make you angry, right?
586. 31:35Children engaging in intimate physical actions with adults into normalize that.
587. 31:41These are the things and these are the people that are that are getting access
588. 31:45and have access to our children in our nation.
589. 31:47And it should cause us to be spitting mad, frankly,
590. 31:50and to do something about it.
591. 31:51Yeah, I was talking to Lucas Miles about this a little bit
592. 31:54on his show a couple of weeks ago.
593. 31:56And he was saying that this idea
594. 31:57that we have an evangelical Christianity
595. 32:00of this sort of meek and mild Jesus does not,
596. 32:03it does not sink, it doesn't match up with the Jesus
597. 32:07who we know loves children.
598. 32:10There is a time for flipping over tables.
599. 32:11There is a time to call people vipers.
600. 32:13And Jesus knew when that time was,
601. 32:15We need to understand that this is a time for parents
602. 32:18to defend children and to start it to stand up to say,
603. 32:21absolutely not, there is such a thing as evil.
604. 32:24And I heard a pastor just a couple of days ago
605. 32:26call the transgender movement demonic.
606. 32:28And I thought, hallelujah, someone's finally saying it.
607. 32:32This has always been an assault against the creator God,
608. 32:35always been an assault against his children.
609. 32:36If you look at a lot of the ills
610. 32:38that we're dealing with in our country right now,
611. 32:40what's happening at the Southern Board of Abraham,
612. 32:42sex trafficking, who is it targeting children?
613. 32:45I gotta break in.
614. 32:46I gotta break in because this disrespectful music
615. 32:48is coming on because we gotta take this break.
616. 32:50But when we come back, I wanna pick up right there
617. 32:53and continue the conversation with Heidi St. John,
618. 32:55author, speaker, podcast host,
619. 32:57and co-founder of the Firmly-Planted
620. 32:58Home School Resource Center.
621. 33:10The Hamilton Quarter Podcast and One-Minute Commentaries
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623. 33:16Back to the Hamilton Quarter on American Family Radio.
624. 33:20Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner.
625. 33:21Abraham Hamilton III here.
626. 33:23My guest is the Heidi St. John author, speaker, podcast host, co-founder of Firmly, the Firmly
627. 33:30planted homeschool resource center.
628. 33:31And before we went to the break where the disrespectful music grabbed us, Heidi, you were
629. 33:35explaining about the tragedy that's happening on a southern border.
630. 33:38And one of the things that's happening is sex trafficking that's focused on children.
631. 33:42Yeah, that's right.
632. 33:44And if you stop and think about my friend Katie Faust, who's going to be here at Firmly planted
633. 33:48and teaching children how to respond to what's happening in the culture right now from a
634. 33:52a biblical perspective, she rightly pointed out on my show the other day that most of the
635. 33:56issues that we're dealing with even legislatively right now are targeting young children.
636. 34:01You know, the age of consent targeting children, LGBTQ agenda, targeting children, transgenderism
637. 34:07in our hospitals, the redefinition of male and female, these are not targeting adults, they're
638. 34:11targeting children. And Jesus said to be better for us to have a millstone hung around our
639. 34:15neck and be thrown into the sea than to lead even one of his little ones astray. This is
640. 34:21an area where the church must be vocal.
641. 34:24We've got to stop being quiet, stop being silent,
642. 34:26stop being so meek and start standing up
643. 34:29in defense of our children.
644. 34:30There is a solution to this and it starts with the pastor
645. 34:34and it starts with pastors partnering with parents
646. 34:36and we need to start telling the truth
647. 34:37about what's happening to our kids.
648. 34:39So very well said.
649. 34:41One of the things that I love about you
650. 34:43and just looking at the things that you're involved in,
651. 34:46your podcast, Off the Bench,
652. 34:48mom strong 365 face speaks that there's a commonality with you to where you're calling people, you're
653. 34:56rousing people, you're summoning people, not merely to assess the damage, not merely to identify
654. 35:01what's going on, but to respond to what's happening.
655. 35:04And one of the things that I endeavor to communicate to people all the time is that the reality
656. 35:08is all sin is the same in terms of its eternal impact and consequences.
657. 35:13But all sin is not the same in terms of its temporal impact.
658. 35:16And so there are things that happen, that if our young ones are exposed to certain things,
659. 35:20they can be marred in such a way to where their entire lives are adjusted to shape and
660. 35:26shape the court and the things that they suffered as an injury at that particular juncture of
661. 35:31their development.
662. 35:32If we won't show up for our children, what will we show up for?
663. 35:36Yeah, that's a really good question.
664. 35:38You know, people ask me all the time.
665. 35:40I was just at NRB and I did a lot of interviews there and people would ask me all the time,
666. 35:45Heidi, I know that you're passionate about what's going on in the schools and I know that you're
667. 35:48an advocate for home education and all this stuff.
668. 35:51But talk to the parents who just can't do it.
669. 35:53And you know what, Abraham, I'm starting to get mad.
670. 35:55I just said, listen, we learned in COVID, what did we learn, right?
671. 35:59We learned that for a virus at the 99.9% survival rate, we would pull our kids out of school.
672. 36:06We learned that.
673. 36:07Well, there is a virus at the 99.9% spiritual mortality rate.
674. 36:11It is taking no prisoners.
675. 36:13Get your children out of these schools.
676. 36:14I've been asking parents, I understand that there are small percentages of people who just
677. 36:20can't make it work.
678. 36:21For one reason or another, obviously, sometimes there are situations beyond our control.
679. 36:25But I believe, and I think studies will show this, and I think we're going to look back
680. 36:29on this and go, man, Heidi, you right, right?
681. 36:31I think that the vast majority of parents can do it.
682. 36:35They just don't want to do it.
683. 36:37It requires sacrifice.
684. 36:38It's hard.
685. 36:39Show me anything that we do in this life, Abraham, that's worthy, that's not difficult.
686. 36:44I'm tired of making excuses for these parents.
687. 36:46My question has become, do you love your children?
688. 36:50Do you love your children?
689. 36:52If you love your children, you will protect their heart and their mind.
690. 36:55And you can't expect a child to swim through a cesspool every single day and come out on
691. 37:00the other side without having the residue all over their minds and their heart.
692. 37:06And that is what is happening.
693. 37:08I'm I've made.
694. 37:12If we were to empirically track the secularization of America, and it's actually not something
695. 37:19that's novel, it's actually been done, Lyman Stone has done research, we've shared the data,
696. 37:24was actually published in a series of articles surprising that Yahoo actually published them
697. 37:29to where the secularization of America is directly attributable to consistent generations
698. 37:36of American citizens being reared in less and less and less Christian homes, not in what's
699. 37:43proclaimed to be Christian, but in the actual homes that are steeped and grounded in the word
700. 37:47of God's where discipleship is happening and to where, frankly, to where we are, and this
701. 37:53is my words now, we are living in such a culture idolatry to where we have people who are not
702. 37:57saying what their mouths, well, we reject the God that has revealed himself to us in
703. 38:01the Bible, but the practical realities that we've elevated other things to the same level
704. 38:06of devotion and affinity that God alone should have to where we have things like sports and
705. 38:11popularity and other things that we've established as being just as important to us.
706. 38:17Really more important when you think about the time devotion to us than really our commitment
707. 38:21to the Lord.
708. 38:22And the unfortunate reality is that you diagnosed this 99.9% successful virus with a spiritual mortality
709. 38:29rate.
710. 38:30the reality that too many of us don't see it with that same level of lethality.
711. 38:34We don't see that this is actually a demise.
712. 38:38There is demise ahead for our children.
713. 38:41And in many instances, it's already happened, but we simply don't see it that way.
714. 38:45Yeah, it's true.
715. 38:47And I think God's not going to hold us guiltless for this.
716. 38:50Parents will say to me, well, I had to work or I need it.
717. 38:54And we got to think about what you just said, what are we working for?
718. 38:58What are we working for?
719. 38:59And you know, my husband and I, my Jay was a pastor for 20 over 20 years and we raised
720. 39:04seven children on a shoestring and it was difficult at times, very, very difficult.
721. 39:09And I'm not here to say, well, if Heidi can do it, anyone can do it. I'm just saying, wow,
722. 39:12you guys, at some point it's going to require sacrifice. We're not used to that in this country.
723. 39:17We're very, very soft people. We're not used to sacrifice. We're not used to, we don't
724. 39:21understand duty. You know, you know, we don't have time to talk about it today, but I ran
725. 39:25for Congress in 2022, because I saw an opportunity to exercise my responsibility as a citizen
726. 39:32of the United States. We have responsibility and God will hold us accountable for whether
727. 39:37or not we stewarded the responsibility that He has given us, first inside of our homes
728. 39:42and then outside the four walls of our churches. God has called us out into the culture, not
729. 39:47to blend in with it.
730. 39:48So well said, so well said. And I just want to underscore what you mentioned, anything
731. 39:52that's valuable is going to require a sacrifice.
732. 39:55You know, my wife and I, it's hilarious.
733. 39:58When my wife, we met, we worked together
734. 40:00in the Harris County District Attorney's Office
735. 40:01and when my wife was sharing with her superiors
736. 40:04that she was going to resign from her job,
737. 40:06they said, well, what did Abe do to you?
738. 40:08Is he forcing you to do this?
739. 40:09And she was like, no, actually, this is something
740. 40:11I don't want to do to invest my talent skills and abilities
741. 40:14in cultivating our family, importing into our children.
742. 40:16And my wife resigned when she was pregnant
743. 40:19with our oldest son.
744. 40:20But it's a sacrifice.
745. 40:22It's not like my wife is sitting around,
746. 40:25and I'm sitting around,
747. 40:26there are things I have to do,
748. 40:27work juggling schedules,
749. 40:28and I am actively involved in teaching our children,
750. 40:31and as well as teaching others,
751. 40:33children are a part of our co-op,
752. 40:35to where I teach at our co-op.
753. 40:38I teach some of the higher courses,
754. 40:39my wife teaches some of the younger level,
755. 40:41done with children's courses.
756. 40:43But it's a sacrifice, but we do it because it's worth it.
757. 40:46Anything that's worth it,
758. 40:48is going to require sacrifice.
759. 40:49come on.
760. 40:50And Jesus told us that in this world we will have trouble but take heart because he has
761. 40:55overcome the world.
762. 40:56The level of difficulty should not be the thing that is the enduring impediment.
763. 41:02What has to be the enduring consideration is what has got required of me?
764. 41:09When I stand before the Lord, how will I answer his inquiries as to what I did with his
765. 41:14heritage that he's entrusted to my stewardship?
766. 41:18The reality is that our children are only children for so long.
767. 41:22You only have a certain amount of time to shape them to mold them.
768. 41:25George Barnas come out with extensive research to say worldviews are solidified by the age
769. 41:29of 13.
770. 41:31Yes.
771. 41:32What are we doing?
772. 41:34And one of the things that is that is ignored, unfortunately, not merely what is curricular coming
773. 41:38from the teachers, but peer learning.
774. 41:41What are they learning from Johnny and Junette at the Water Fountain and in PE class and oh
775. 41:46wait for it in the sex ed classes where they're being taught there's no such thing as virginity.
776. 41:52Yeah, we're hurting our kids and you know someone I like I said I'm running out of patience and it
777. 41:58sounds like you are too with the conversation on full of patience and daffodils and lilies.
778. 42:03That's right and everything and Easter bunnies are everywhere and I just think man we got to start
779. 42:08having hard conversations and I said to him on the other day where there's a will there's a way
780. 42:14if you care about this and you know God cares about it.
781. 42:17So we know God cares about it, God can do it.
782. 42:20God can provide for your family,
783. 42:21He can give you what you need to stay home with your children.
784. 42:24And you rightly pointed out, I mean Abraham,
785. 42:26there are seasons of our lives and where we're either,
786. 42:29we are either sewing or we are reaping.
787. 42:31I am very much in a season of reaping right now in my life.
788. 42:35Jay and I are reaping the fruit of 30-some odd years
789. 42:40of parenting children.
790. 42:41And I wanted my children, we said this to them,
791. 42:44and they would say, Mom, why can't we do this?
792. 42:46Why can't we do that?
793. 42:47Oh, I wanted to be whatever.
794. 42:49And I often said to my kids, listen,
795. 42:51your dad and I have two jobs.
796. 42:52Our first job is to teach you that you've been made
797. 42:55in the image of God to introduce you to your savior.
798. 42:58And the second one is to get you to adulthood
799. 43:00with as little regret as possible.
800. 43:02I want to get you to the jumping off place
801. 43:05to where you don't look back and say,
802. 43:07man, I wish that hadn't happened to me
803. 43:08or I wish this had been part of my life.
804. 43:10Have we done it perfectly?
805. 43:11No, but you only get a small amount of time
806. 43:14to invest in your children.
807. 43:15And as you just said a moment ago,
808. 43:17you don't get a do over.
809. 43:19You don't get a do over it, right?
810. 43:20We're taught in God's word that our children
811. 43:22have been given to us like arrows in the hands
812. 43:24of their warrior parents.
813. 43:25So stop being so weasily and wobbly out on the field.
814. 43:29You are a warrior in God's eyes.
815. 43:31Fight for your children.
816. 43:33Fight for your children,
817. 43:34because we only get one opportunity to launch them.
818. 43:37And when it's over, it's over.
819. 43:38Now, my responsibility for six of our seven has turned from that of being a full-time mother
820. 43:45and an educator to being a prayer warrior on behalf of my children and coming alongside them as an
821. 43:51encourager and a coach and tell, reminding them, I'm in your corner, I'm cheering you on. I've got
822. 43:56one child left at home, she's 13 years old. And yesterday, you know, I take Wednesdays and I spend
823. 44:01the whole day with her. We're, you know, yesterday, we're making sourdough bread and I was teaching
824. 44:05how to make halibut for dinner and all those things.
825. 44:07And we're doing the things.
826. 44:08And she said to me something that I thought was so profound,
827. 44:11she said, Mom, I realize I'm the last,
828. 44:14I'm the last one that you're gonna get to do this with.
829. 44:17And she said, thanks for not quitting.
830. 44:20Has there been times, honestly,
831. 44:21Abraham, when I have wanted to quit?
832. 44:23Oh, I know it.
833. 44:24I just thought I have been teaching long division
834. 44:27for 187 years in homeschool years.
835. 44:29And I'm kind of tired of doing it.
836. 44:31And I think that's where the Apostle Paul said,
837. 44:33don't grow weary.
838. 44:34Amen. Don't grow weary and well doing. Your kids are worth it. Your marriage is worth it.
839. 44:40Your relationship with the Lord is worth it. Don't give up hanging there.
840. 44:45So well said. Now I want to definitely include two things. One, you host monthly Bible studies
841. 44:53with women all over the country and if you're listening and you'd like to be a part of
842. 44:56Heidi's Bible studies, you can do so by going to faith. That speaks.com. Faith. That speaks.com.
843. 45:03And in addition to that, you and Jay founded the firmly planted homeschool resource center.
844. 45:08I got a small clip I want to share with the audience on that.
845. 45:10It's clip number one, Jeff.
846. 45:11Go.
847. 45:12The scenery here in Vancouver, Washington across the Columbia River from Portland is simply beautiful.
848. 45:18A very appropriate setting for what's taking place here.
849. 45:21The whole story is a miracle story, really.
850. 45:24Heidi St. John and husband Jay started their homeschooling venture about 20 years ago.
851. 45:30What began as a small, humble homeschool ministry has now outgrown two locations thanks to a booming
852. 45:37demand. God just kept putting on her heart, stepped forward in faith and I will bring the
853. 45:41people and the resources and he's done that. Boy has he. When COVID hit, so did a rush of parents
854. 45:48and their kids to the homeschool center causing it to almost quadruple in size. A new building was
855. 45:55needed to house that a man but it carried a hefty price tag that only God could meet.
856. 46:00We didn't have $16 million.
857. 46:03And so we took it to the Lord and we at one point, actually several points along the way,
858. 46:08we brought families over here to pray for the building.
859. 46:10People walking the perimeter of this building, putting their hands on the bricks and just saying,
860. 46:15Father, you see what's happening to your children.
861. 46:17We need your help.
862. 46:18We need your help.
863. 46:19And he showed up in a mighty way, enough money in full so they could move forward.
864. 46:25free. Wow. Tell us a bit about the
865. 46:29firm of the Planet Homeschool Resource Center.
866. 46:30What is your vision there and what are you seeking to accomplish?
867. 46:34Well, the Homeschool Resource Center exists to really come alongside parents and remove
868. 46:38every obstacle. So if a homeschool, you know, if a woman comes to me and says,
869. 46:42my kids are in the public school and I'm really thinking about taking them out,
870. 46:45but I just don't want to teach chemistry or I don't feel like, you know,
871. 46:48great, I've got a chemistry tutor for you. I don't know where to get curriculum.
872. 46:51Awesome, we have a bookstore here for you,
873. 46:54where she'll say, I just don't have any community.
874. 46:55That's awesome, we've got community here for you.
875. 46:58And so we have over 200 tutorials happening right now here.
876. 47:02We're doing tutoring and everything from the Constitution
877. 47:06to languages to math, algebra, reading, science, you name it.
878. 47:11We're teaching kids to be entrepreneurs here.
879. 47:13We have a thriving entrepreneurship program going on,
880. 47:15and we have over 800 students here.
881. 47:18And so what we're trying to do is tell parents,
882. 47:20listen, if you're feeling insecure, if you're feeling like you can't do it, we are here
883. 47:25to help you do the thing that God has called you to do. And so we've seen literally, I mean,
884. 47:31one of my favorite stories that happened over COVID was a mom came to us after they'd been
885. 47:36at the center for maybe a month and a half. And she stood at the front desk and she was crying.
886. 47:41And she said, Heidi, I finally have my daughter back. I haven't seen my daughter in years.
887. 47:46And you know, really what we're doing is it's coming alongside helping parents do what they're supposed to do.
888. 47:52So we're not a school, parents do not drop their kids off here, parents are here with their kids.
889. 47:57So you'll see lots and lots of areas where as if a child's being tutored in algebra or maybe they're in a tutorial for chemistry or whatever it is.
890. 48:05The moms have a place to sit. We have a coffee shop here. I call it the four C's. It's coffee, it's curriculum.
891. 48:10and it's the bookstore, it's classes,
892. 48:14and it's Jesus Christ, and they're getting all that stuff
893. 48:16here at the center.
894. 48:17That is wonderful, and parents are the ones who are doing
895. 48:19the teaching.
896. 48:20Ladies and gentlemen, Heidi St. John, you can follow Heidi
897. 48:23in all of her wonderful work, and what she and her husband,
898. 48:26Jay, are doing by going to Heidi St. John.net.
899. 48:29You can get connected to her podcast.
900. 48:32You can get connected to the women's Bible study
901. 48:36at FaithThatSpeaks.com.
902. 48:38You can find all of her books and all of their material,
903. 48:40Heidi St. John.net is website.
904. 48:43Thank you for being on the show, Heidi.
905. 48:45The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast
906. 48:48may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family
907. 48:51Association or American Family Radio.