The Hamilton Corner

March 20, 2025 · 48:48

Guest Host, Alex McFarland, is joined by Economist Christian Briggs, CEO of Hard Asset Management as they discuss President Trump's recent trade policies

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  10. 0:28and now, The Hamilton Corner.
  11. 0:33Well, good evening America.
  12. 0:34Alex McFarland here on the American Family Radio Network.
  13. 0:37And we have got an incredible show.
  14. 0:39I'm very honored to be sitting in tonight
  15. 0:41for attorney journalist, pastor, Abe Hamilton III,
  16. 0:45as I frequently do.
  17. 0:47Great honor.
  18. 0:48And we've had a lot of guests and done some shows
  19. 0:51I'm pretty proud of.
  20. 0:53Very pleased with the people and the content
  21. 0:56that we have the privilege of sharing.
  22. 0:58but tonight, I do not overstate the case at all,
  23. 1:02but this may be one of the most significant shows you hear
  24. 1:06in many a day.
  25. 1:07You're going to hear some very consequential content
  26. 1:12regarding your money, the economy, and all of our futures.
  27. 1:16And to help us talk about things like crypto and tariffs
  28. 1:20and the stock market and central bank digital currency, CBDC.
  29. 1:25So many things you're hearing in the news.
  30. 1:27Tonight, to weigh in on these topics and more,
  31. 1:31Christian Briggs of hard asset management,
  32. 1:34he is a leader in the financial sector.
  33. 1:37He is a consultant for the White House
  34. 1:40in this administration, renowned for his financial prowess,
  35. 1:44but also his absolute dedication to integrity
  36. 1:48and ethical business practices.
  37. 1:51You talk about China, he knows China.
  38. 1:53He's run business over there.
  39. 1:56He, like myself, is very concerned about the national debt and whether or not our nation
  40. 2:04defaults on the debt.
  41. 2:06And just the way that we've been spending recklessly wasting money, here we are at such a profitable
  42. 2:14prosperous nation and we should not be in the financial duress that we actually are in.
  43. 2:21And so a voice of reason and a pathway toward responsible management of our assets nationally
  44. 2:30and personally.
  45. 2:31I'm very privileged to speak tonight with Christian Briggs of Heart Asset Management, Inc.
  46. 2:37Mr. Briggs, thank you so much for making time to be with us today.
  47. 2:41And thank you for what you do for our country.
  48. 2:43Well, first of all, thanks for being so gracious to put me on your show.
  49. 2:47A lot of people today don't want to hear what the truth is.
  50. 2:51an old saying in some of the communist countries, it's better to tell them a warm lie to give
  51. 2:57them the cold truth.
  52. 2:58And you know, America not being anywhere near that, but we still sometimes want to fall
  53. 3:04back on, well, I just don't want to know what the reality is, whether it's the debt, whether
  54. 3:08it's the economy in general politics, corruption.
  55. 3:12But I think that the more we know, the more value and the benefit to our overall standard
  56. 3:18of living and as believers, we take that insight that's given to us, God given insight, and we
  57. 3:25try to put that into real world terms.
  58. 3:28What does that mean?
  59. 3:29The action item.
  60. 3:30So I'm just glad to be here.
  61. 3:31It's a very big honor to be with so many believers.
  62. 3:34Your show is huge, obviously.
  63. 3:35So whatever I can do to give insight and inspiration on, here's what's coming.
  64. 3:41Here's what you can do.
  65. 3:42I'm happy to do it.
  66. 3:45How do you think so many people nowadays that they get themselves into so much debt, credit
  67. 3:52card debt, they live beyond their means?
  68. 3:55What do you think so many people nowadays just don't know how to responsibly handle money?
  69. 4:02Wow, that's a good question.
  70. 4:05I don't get asked that much.
  71. 4:06So let's talk about human behavior.
  72. 4:08And what is the responsible handling of money?
  73. 4:11Again, that's a good question because there's two parts.
  74. 4:15They always said it's very hard to become a millionaire.
  75. 4:17I don't think it's as hard as today,
  76. 4:19certainly might have been 40, 50 years ago,
  77. 4:21but even so, success is measured on a couple of different levels.
  78. 4:24But the hardest thing I think,
  79. 4:26and when you achieve that milestone of success
  80. 4:29is keeping the money.
  81. 4:30I think it's easier to make it,
  82. 4:32but it's much harder to be able to garner
  83. 4:34a disciplined mentality on either keeping it
  84. 4:38by just savings account or keeping it and investing it.
  85. 4:42It seems to slip through our fingers.
  86. 4:44So let's talk about why could that be?
  87. 4:46And it's not everybody, obviously.
  88. 4:47There's a lot of good people that out there that know how to say,
  89. 4:49but let's talk about your question.
  90. 4:53When you grow up with nothing and you have something,
  91. 4:56it tends to be one of those things
  92. 4:58that you don't have such a grasp on,
  93. 5:01the understanding of the value of what that is.
  94. 5:04So you never had it.
  95. 5:05So it's kind of one of those momentary things where,
  96. 5:07oh, I have it now, but if I spend it on clothes or cars,
  97. 5:11it's OK, I'll make the money and continuously make it
  98. 5:13and have it.
  99. 5:14grow up my wealth that way. And we got to realize that the money that is given to us,
  100. 5:21we got to be good stewards of that custodians of that money because it's really not ours.
  101. 5:25But in saying that, I think what you have is you have a general understanding that credit
  102. 5:29for the last 40 years, up till the last two, three years was a declining cost. So think
  103. 5:36about that. The cost of money for 40 years was declining. So that gave us the go to feeling
  104. 5:43we can do anything it's going to continue. I once said this and I don't know if it was
  105. 5:48well received and so a few members of Congress, I said you guys have been giving money away
  106. 5:53from helicopters since literally the late 80s and we have basically been willing to accept
  107. 6:00that money without understanding that this is recoverable money. In other words, it's
  108. 6:05like when you borrow money at 2%. You still got to pay the debt. Now of course that's
  109. 6:10very low interest rate. But at the end of the day, when we are achieving high standards or
  110. 6:14high levels of credit and living to a standard, we have to pay that back. It's not free. Even
  111. 6:20though some people think it's free and it's going to continue forever. I think the greatest
  112. 6:25perpetuated scam on anybody, American people in the world was COVID money. This was money
  113. 6:31that is like a non-recourse loan. It was a non-recourse loan. And I read the stories,
  114. 6:37I'm sure you did too, Alex.
  115. 6:38How many people received hundreds of thousands of dollars,
  116. 6:41millions of dollars and thought,
  117. 6:43well, they came in like what, two tranches, three tranches.
  118. 6:47So they thought, oh, it's gonna keep coming.
  119. 6:49It's gonna keep fulfilling what I need financially.
  120. 6:52And when the money stopped, well guess what happened?
  121. 6:55A lot of them didn't get back into the same business world
  122. 6:58and made the same account of money.
  123. 6:59So they were living on credit cards.
  124. 7:01The discipline that we must have
  125. 7:03when we achieve any milestone of success,
  126. 7:05whether it's a hundred thousand the bank
  127. 7:07100 million is two things. One, appreciate where it came from, maintain the consistency of where
  128. 7:12you're getting it and keep that business model going. If it's a one-time thing or a continuation
  129. 7:17of your business, great. The second thing, which is very important, do you have two or three years
  130. 7:23with the cash in the bank in case something detrimental happens to your livelihood? You got
  131. 7:28to maintain that. And unfortunately, the Biden administration through their very, very poor fiscal
  132. 7:34policies. I mean, their national foreign policy was terrible, you know, it was just bad, but
  133. 7:39let's talk about the fiscal policy. So now you have this inflation that the bottom half of America,
  134. 7:45they're basically starving to death. Their wages haven't even come close to keeping up ballots
  135. 7:50with the costs they're living. So we're finding that credit card debt and then
  136. 7:57the associated costs of borrowing that money on credit cards is horrific. It's up to what,
  137. 8:03but 35, 40%, depending upon the bank,
  138. 8:06the issues, the cards, there is no way
  139. 8:09people are gonna be able to pay back those types of interest rates
  140. 8:13in a manner that's consistent with maintaining their credit
  141. 8:16because credit card debt hit an all time high.
  142. 8:19And when you go against a savings accounts
  143. 8:21and you go against your other debt like car loans,
  144. 8:24boat loans, whole loans, HELOC, anything like that,
  145. 8:28guess what happens?
  146. 8:30They don't have the increasing capabilities of the wages to maintain those levels of debt.
  147. 8:38So people for all tens of purposes to go back to your original question, it was too cheap
  148. 8:44of money that was received too easily in credit.
  149. 8:49Yeah.
  150. 8:50Well, Christian, do you know what percentage of American households are insolvent?
  151. 8:56Well, I'll kind of give you a number that would be the closest to answer your question.
  152. 9:03Let's talk about Trump first and his first term.
  153. 9:08When he walked into the White House in 17, 52% of America was not active in the labor force,
  154. 9:14which means they just didn't pay taxes.
  155. 9:15Now they lived usually on entitlement programs, other federal, state, local, fully, or some
  156. 9:22kind of an indirect or direct subsidies to their income and their lifestyle.
  157. 9:26They had no tax base.
  158. 9:28When he left office, even with COVID, he brought that 52% down to 47%.
  159. 9:35He lifted more minorities out of what I consider to be the lower income bracket to a
  160. 9:41middle income and took people that weren't even in the bracket to a bracket, right?
  161. 9:46They weren't even in the tax base and got them.
  162. 9:49So he was one of the greatest presidents in the history of the United States to be able
  163. 9:54to go to the money, whether it was the African American, the Latino.
  164. 9:57It didn't matter.
  165. 9:58This guy did a lift.
  166. 10:00Let's talk about Joe Biden walking in.
  167. 10:03So that 47% by the time Joe Biden left last year, guess what?
  168. 10:08We were looking at a 62%.
  169. 10:11You know why?
  170. 10:12Because he gave away free money, dependency.
  171. 10:15If I was to send a check to every American $10,000 every month, the incentive to work
  172. 10:21would be, well, not zero, but pretty close to zero for the majority of the people.
  173. 10:25Okay.
  174. 10:26So now we're at a 62% when Joe Biden took office, the participation in the labor force, but
  175. 10:36yet people had less than $1,000 and the bank was 70%.
  176. 10:41But when he left office, 80% of America is living paycheck to paycheck with less than
  177. 10:46$1,000 cash liquid.
  178. 10:49That's how bad those policies were.
  179. 10:51You'd almost have to think to yourself, was it willfully done?
  180. 10:55And they set Trump up in case he was to win the election.
  181. 10:58Did they set him up with an economy that looks to be as in the words of our Secretary
  182. 11:02Treasury were facing the worst financial crisis in US history far greater than the O8 markets.
  183. 11:09And that's a question that we may never specifically be able to answer with 100% certainty, but
  184. 11:13it sure looks like that.
  185. 11:15The duck is walking, the duck is quacking, it must be a duck.
  186. 11:18So I'm going to leave it at that point.
  187. 11:20to go back again, it's about 80% of America lives paycheck to paycheck or has less than
  188. 11:25a thousand dollars give or take a few bucks liquid in the bank. That's the worst statistical
  189. 11:30number in the history. And I say, we were better off during the Civil War.
  190. 11:34Yeah, exactly. And you know, I think about this, and by the way, folks, if you're just
  191. 11:40tuning in, Alex McFarland here on the American Family Radio Network, very honored to glean
  192. 11:45from the wisdom of Christian Briggs. We've got so much to talk about. We've got just a
  193. 11:51wonderful window of time to learn from this man. Christian, before we go too much farther,
  194. 11:57and I've got so many financial and governmental questions I want to pose to you, but websites,
  195. 12:02where may people find you online, follow what you're doing and your content?
  196. 12:09Well, thanks for asking. So I have a podcast show called the Hard Asset Money Show, which
  197. 12:15you can go on YouTube for the video version, Spotify and Apple for the audio version. And
  198. 12:20then on X, you can follow us at BMC underscore, H A M VMC underscore ham. And our website is
  199. 12:28BMC ham.com. Being one of the largest precious metals dealers in the United States, my team,
  200. 12:34we've been in business for 40 years. It's given us the ability to follow the trends. And what
  201. 12:40we're seeing right now is the government, let's just talk about the debt, if that's
  202. 12:44Okay, with you, Alex.
  203. 12:45Sure, sure.
  204. 12:46Okay.
  205. 12:47Since that's the three topics right now that are trending the most between search X and other
  206. 12:53media platforms is the debt or the national debt, the long term liability debt.
  207. 12:58It's almost one and the same.
  208. 12:59We're going to talk about that.
  209. 13:01But really, it's also about gold and it's also about digital currency with the Senator
  210. 13:04Hagerty from Tennessee with his Genius Act, which is introducing digital assets, stable
  211. 13:10coins.
  212. 13:11Congressman French Hill in the house who introduced their version of the bill to transition from
  213. 13:15paper currency to digital currency.
  214. 13:18But the debt, it's not sustainable.
  215. 13:21In fact, if you do the math on it, unless something drastic happens with the fiscal policies,
  216. 13:27and I'm talking about trillions of dollars immediately in government spending, the sustained
  217. 13:33method of spending, and it's a method, right?
  218. 13:37It's like a business.
  219. 13:38You have a clear path to understanding what your revenues are and what your expenditures are.
  220. 13:42Expenditures, we are going to default before Trump takes office. We will literally be in bankrupt.
  221. 13:47See, we're technically bankrupt. Bankruptcy is not- Before Trump leaves office, you mean?
  222. 13:50Correct. When Trump leaves office, credit end of his first term. See, bankruptcy is defined
  223. 13:55at a very clear understanding. It doesn't mean that you're not able to bring in revenues that
  224. 13:59all businesses have ceased to exist. It means that your revenues or let's just call your assets
  225. 14:04are far less, your debts exceed those assets by a multiple margin.
  226. 14:10Well, fast forward here if we are.
  227. 14:13If this is a private corporation,
  228. 14:15I think the shareholders would have put us in voluntary,
  229. 14:17or some type of reorganization or just liquidation bankruptcy.
  230. 14:21Sure. Hey, we've got to take a brief break.
  231. 14:24Alex McFarland's here.
  232. 14:25You know, money, the way we handle money is a character issue,
  233. 14:29really. It's a spiritual issue too.
  234. 14:31I'm so honored that we have with the show tonight,
  235. 14:33Christian Briggs of hard asset management. We're going to talk more because look, this
  236. 14:38impacts all of us. The money, the economy, the nation, our future. Stay tuned the Hamilton
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  245. 15:42Welcome back to the program, Alex McFarland here, by the way.
  246. 15:45We've got a lot going on in our world, and my website is AlexMcFarlane.com, and we've
  247. 15:50got Dinesh D'Souza.
  248. 15:52He was a policy analyst under Ronald Reagan, and he's speaking for us May 4th in Myrtle Beach,
  249. 15:59South Carolina.
  250. 16:01And if we're doing a speaker series called Conversations That Matter, so if you go to my
  251. 16:05website, AlexMcFarlane.com slash Conversations, we're bringing in Charlie Kirk later in the
  252. 16:11summer.
  253. 16:12But you know, it's all about God in country.
  254. 16:14And really, all of us have an opportunity and frankly, a responsibility to be the citizens
  255. 16:21that are the solution to the country.
  256. 16:25It's ultimately the hand of God, but each one of us can play a role in telling the truth and
  257. 16:31living right and helping our country stay on track.
  258. 16:34So check out my website if you would, AlexMcFarlane.com slash conversations.
  259. 16:40We'd love to have you there May 4th to hear Dinesh D'Souza.
  260. 16:44One of the other voices that frankly I believe God has raised up and I was so blessed to learn
  261. 16:50from this man, Christian Briggs.
  262. 16:52He is playing a role in our government but he for many years has led hard asset management
  263. 16:58and he's helping a lot of people myself included learn wisdom when it comes to finances.
  264. 17:07I grew up in a very political family and my parents campaigned for Reagan and were very
  265. 17:13much grassroots volunteers.
  266. 17:15I remember in 1981, my mother and dad were just so upset that the national debt hit GASP
  267. 17:24$1 trillion.
  268. 17:25That was 1981.
  269. 17:28And my parents, I was young, I didn't understand it, but they were just freaking out that the
  270. 17:35national debt in 1981 was a trillion dollars. Now, fast forward to the present moment. I
  271. 17:43know it's what in the high 30s. What is the national debt right now, Christian?
  272. 17:48Well, you got two debts, okay? Okay. We have what they call the top line national debt,
  273. 17:56top line being the debt that everybody's associated with the number 37 trillion dollars. But we
  274. 18:01We have to be a little bit more understanding of the real debt.
  275. 18:06It's the long-term liabilities, which are no longer able to be pushed further down and
  276. 18:11you cannot negate these.
  277. 18:13These are liabilities that you must pay.
  278. 18:16So you have credit card debt, let's call that the national level.
  279. 18:19You have mortgage debt, which is the long-term liability.
  280. 18:22So the national debt at $36.7 trillion and accumulating $8 billion a day, like this is
  281. 18:29a day.
  282. 18:30And I'm sorry it sounded like you said $8 billion a day.
  283. 18:35Sure, do the math.
  284. 18:36Yeah, we're gonna end up increasing our national,
  285. 18:39listen to this, this is the boy gets good.
  286. 18:41Our revenues are $5 trillion this year,
  287. 18:44top line revenues for the United States government.
  288. 18:46Okay, as somebody who studied both physics
  289. 18:49and economics for over 30 years,
  290. 18:51both quantum and quantitative,
  291. 18:53these are derivative models that we build
  292. 18:55that are conclusive.
  293. 18:57It's like kind of like saying two plus two equals four.
  294. 18:59That's conclusive.
  295. 19:00Now, you can change the variables,
  296. 19:02but I can show you how to get to four again.
  297. 19:04Go to three plus one, that's four.
  298. 19:06How about four ones, that's four.
  299. 19:08You can change the variables, but the outcome is always
  300. 19:11the same when you're using mathematics.
  301. 19:13I always said this, people lie, but math doesn't.
  302. 19:17So let's talk about math.
  303. 19:18All right, let's go over here.
  304. 19:19All right, now, if I have a $5 trillion in your income,
  305. 19:23not bad, I meant a lot of money, as a country,
  306. 19:26and of a $37 trillion debt, my debt servicing number
  307. 19:30is $2.4 trillion this year.
  308. 19:33We're gonna service the debt.
  309. 19:35If the 10-year treasury stays elevated,
  310. 19:38over 4% to 4.25%, right now it's at 4.3,
  311. 19:42the $9 trillion of old debt that's coming due
  312. 19:46this coming summer will go from 2% to 4.4,
  313. 19:51even if you mean 4.5%, now all of a sudden,
  314. 19:53You're talking $2.4 trillion going into this year,
  315. 19:57and now into fiscal 26, which starts October 1st.
  316. 20:01You're now looking at $7.4 trillion.
  317. 20:04The $5 trillion we've got in revenues,
  318. 20:06the 2.4 inches that we have to have.
  319. 20:08See the $5 trillion in revenues that we have,
  320. 20:12that's already spent.
  321. 20:14Excluding the interest on the debt,
  322. 20:16here's what you got.
  323. 20:17You have an explosion in Social Security.
  324. 20:19You have almost 20,000 people a day
  325. 20:22going on Social Security.
  326. 20:23not quite but close to it. In 23, we had 5.8 new recipients of Social Security benefits,
  327. 20:30whether it's disability, retirement, it's going to make sure they're built. Well, that's about 1800
  328. 20:35a month back then. Now it's about 1900 a month. And last year, we had about 4 million people go
  329. 20:41on Social Security. We're pulling through almost 70 million people. So when you start to think about
  330. 20:45the growth in entitlements, this year we're going to spend over $2 trillion on Social Security,
  331. 20:50Medicare, Medicaid, hey, chalk up another almost $2 trillion on those. Hey, how about
  332. 20:56that military spending? $1 trillion on that. You're done. What's left? That's $5 trillion.
  333. 21:02You got no other money for all the other government agencies, which I got 450. I think
  334. 21:07the last count was about 450. So no wonder Trump is slashing and burning everything he
  335. 21:12the problem that we have is we're still adding eight billion dollars a day between debt and
  336. 21:20interest on the debt.
  337. 21:22That's a lot.
  338. 21:23Wow.
  339. 21:24That's a lot.
  340. 21:25It is a lot.
  341. 21:26And partisan politics aside, I mean, to your knowledge, have the Democrats in a reasonable,
  342. 21:36realistic, responsible way, have they addressed this?
  343. 21:39Do they care about it?
  344. 21:41Or are they willfully, maliciously wanting the economy to crash just to look bad on Republicans,
  345. 21:49conservatives, specifically Donald J. Trump?
  346. 21:54Okay, that's a really good question.
  347. 21:57You almost have to be, well, let me take a step back.
  348. 22:01Years ago, I was talking to somebody and I said, one day we're going to be able to prove
  349. 22:05there are truly walking brain donors, donors of the brain, but yet still able to biobically
  350. 22:11work and live and breathe somehow.
  351. 22:14Last administration proved to me
  352. 22:16I don't think they just understood fiscal policy
  353. 22:21and the first, first part of it.
  354. 22:23And most of them on the back end toward the end
  355. 22:26when they realized Trump's probably gonna win
  356. 22:27started to literally be detrimental to the economy.
  357. 22:31And let me kind of expand on that and what I just said.
  358. 22:34I think in the beginning, the first two years,
  359. 22:37obviously they were giving away money, COVID,
  360. 22:39you have this, they thought,
  361. 22:40This is going to be a robust economy.
  362. 22:41We're going to be able to maintain the consistency of growth.
  363. 22:44They lied about the employment numbers.
  364. 22:46All the long-term, larger, I call it the larger portion
  365. 22:50of all the jobs creation was actually inflated
  366. 22:53and the ones that they did back down were government.
  367. 22:55The rest of them were just part-time stuff
  368. 22:57within the private sector.
  369. 22:59So I think there was a move in the first two years
  370. 23:02to try to build an economy that was sustainable
  371. 23:05to push through the second half of the administration
  372. 23:09last year of Biden and then be able to push them into a second term. Once they realized
  373. 23:13that the economy was much worse off with the debt, the interest rates, the inflation,
  374. 23:18which affected all of their various fiscal policies, they kind of just said the heck with
  375. 23:22it. If we got the power of the pen, let's absolutely and immediately let's jump. Okay,
  376. 23:30let's go. Let's go to just spending as much as we can. It doesn't matter. It's kind of
  377. 23:36like a non-recourse loan.
  378. 23:37There was no recourse to it.
  379. 23:38So they just said the heck with it,
  380. 23:39we're gonna spend away, if we win,
  381. 23:41we'll figure it out later.
  382. 23:43But if we don't win and we lose to Trump, well guess what?
  383. 23:46We're handing this guy a financial bag of rocks.
  384. 23:49So that's what they did.
  385. 23:51In that last year, even like the last 90 days,
  386. 23:53even before he took actually the oath of office,
  387. 23:56they were spending billions a day spending money.
  388. 23:59We didn't have an order to be able to move aggressively
  389. 24:06to package up what now has become,
  390. 24:08in the words of Secretary of Treasury, Scott Bissent,
  391. 24:12one of the worst financial crisis we're facing
  392. 24:14in wealth U.S. history.
  393. 24:16So I think it was, it was made of denial,
  394. 24:19deny it in the first two years.
  395. 24:21We don't need to worry about it.
  396. 24:23We're gonna build it up.
  397. 24:24The second two years are like,
  398. 24:25oh boy, what have we done?
  399. 24:26There's no way to pay this back.
  400. 24:28So let's just spend between the omnibus bill,
  401. 24:31the inflation reduction act, and the infrastructure.
  402. 24:35I mean, these people spent $7 trillion between dedicated money now and dedicated money that's
  403. 24:40already got to be spent, that was already in the bills for another 10 years.
  404. 24:44It was crazy money.
  405. 24:45And I said to somebody in Congress, when this was all going down last year, I said, do you
  406. 24:51think they even worry about the balance in the checkbook and the repercussions of the debt?
  407. 24:57And the answer was no, they don't care.
  408. 24:59Yeah.
  409. 25:00Wow.
  410. 25:02And then, you know, I think about this,
  411. 25:07by the way, I'm hearing an echo, I don't know why.
  412. 25:09I don't know why I'm hearing an echo.
  413. 25:11Maybe we can hear that or something.
  414. 25:14But let me try to get this echo ameliorated.
  415. 25:19Yeah, there we go.
  416. 25:20Can you hear me now, Christian?
  417. 25:22Oh yeah, perfect.
  418. 25:23Yeah, good.
  419. 25:25You know, well, only God knows the heart of another person.
  420. 25:29I don't know if Schumer and Pelosi and Obama and Biden and Kamala, I don't know if they
  421. 25:34were willfully maliciously trying to wreck the economy to make it look bad on Trump.
  422. 25:40I think they probably were.
  423. 25:42Let's just set that aside for a moment.
  424. 25:46What is the hope?
  425. 25:47Do you believe that in this administration in Washington, is there the ability and the
  426. 25:55willingness to take the hard but necessary steps to short term and long term save the
  427. 26:03American economy and in doing so save the nation.
  428. 26:09Yeah, there is.
  429. 26:11Yes, absolutely.
  430. 26:12Trump has a heart for this country.
  431. 26:13I mean, this guy's heart's big enough to probably drive a semi through.
  432. 26:17I mean, this guy's got a bigger heart than I think I've ever personally experienced in
  433. 26:21the way of which he sacrificed so much for really no gain of his own personal.
  434. 26:26literally took a bullet for this country. That's what I'm saying. He took the ultimate.
  435. 26:30You know, it's like they always said, he was willing to take what it would needed to be done
  436. 26:35in order to garner a result that would be beneficial to the entire country. And people don't think like
  437. 26:42that much anymore. But in saying that, I think what you got to remember is this, we have great
  438. 26:47intentions. But when we're handed something that has a marginal chance of winning, you have to take
  439. 26:53drastic steps doesn't mean you can't accomplish the mission. Okay. I mean, look, we've seen,
  440. 26:57we've seen military operations where single sniper shooters or single military
  441. 27:03special ops have done amazing things for different wars from World War II to President to all the
  442. 27:08back to so far. We have great people, men and women that have sacrificed so much that they have
  443. 27:14actually been able to accomplish a mission. But the question of the ask yourself, this is a fiscal
  444. 27:18one. This isn't about finding a person or trying to find a target. If there is a target
  445. 27:25and you want to kind of take that connotation over this, the target is how do we not default?
  446. 27:31Now, a couple of different things that are showing that the default is more likely than not
  447. 27:35or a pre-packaged bankruptcy or even a pre-packaged roll-up of the dead into some other systematic
  448. 27:41agency like throwing it over to the Federal Reserve, gold is showing that we are in trouble.
  449. 27:46Remember, gold goes up before a catastrophic event. If you go back to all the way 150 years,
  450. 27:51it shows absolutely it's the only asset that shows movement before the bad news hits. It's the rumor
  451. 28:01mill stock, I call it the rumor mill stock, the one you want to buy. The news is when you sell it.
  452. 28:05But at the end of the day, what Trump's facing is twofold. Let's go into detail here.
  453. 28:11He's facing an $8 trillion debt. When I say debt, that means he needs five trillion in revenues,
  454. 28:17He needs to increase GDP, lower taxes, higher revenue on tax
  455. 28:20based.
  456. 28:21The problem is the taxes are going to start going down.
  457. 28:23If we hit a recession, Jerome Powell, the chairman of the
  458. 28:26Federal Reserve today, did say that the economy is definitely
  459. 28:29slowing, but the inflation numbers are not coming down in
  460. 28:33such a way that they could justify cutting interest rates.
  461. 28:35So now we're going to stay at some elevated interest rates
  462. 28:38with a declining economy.
  463. 28:40That means lower tax revenue.
  464. 28:42How much tax revenue is going to drop?
  465. 28:44That's the question.
  466. 28:45Because remember, those has already been able to find
  467. 28:47about 200 billion a year in savings,
  468. 28:49but that savings could be limited
  469. 28:52depending upon the economy's strength
  470. 28:54or the economy's weakness.
  471. 28:55So if the savings is 200 billion,
  472. 28:57but our tax revenue drops 500 billion
  473. 28:59because of lower GDP and lower economic indicators
  474. 29:02that are already showing this,
  475. 29:03our net is still gonna be 300 billion
  476. 29:05on the wrong side of the equation.
  477. 29:07So he's got to do a fine line.
  478. 29:09If you lower the dollars value,
  479. 29:11you can increase inflation, which is bad,
  480. 29:13which will lower the dollar than all of a sudden
  481. 29:15manufacturing jobs becoming very attractive here
  482. 29:17because it lowers the cost of doing business
  483. 29:19by foreign currencies or foreign governments, foreign companies.
  484. 29:22So that's a plus, but he's got to maintain a very fine line
  485. 29:25between inflation, interest rates,
  486. 29:28and still the revenues without increasing the debt too much,
  487. 29:31but he's gonna have to spend,
  488. 29:33in our term right now, this year, this term,
  489. 29:36we're looking at about two to two point five trillion dollars
  490. 29:40and expenditures that go with interest
  491. 29:42and then just really meeting the needs
  492. 29:43of the government's promises.
  493. 29:45So it's a fine line that I would say
  494. 29:48that only a handful of people in the world
  495. 29:50would be able to be successful at it.
  496. 29:52If there is one person that would be successful
  497. 29:55at getting out of this quagmire,
  498. 29:57is Donald J. Trung the business.
  499. 30:00Amen.
  500. 30:01Look at what he did in the late 80s, early 90s.
  501. 30:03This guy had less than $2 million in the bank.
  502. 30:06He had a real estate empire that was on the verge of collapse.
  503. 30:08He had about a dozen banks that were like,
  504. 30:10look, where's our money?
  505. 30:11He goes, look, you can do one of two things here.
  506. 30:14You can either foreclose and you can own these assets,
  507. 30:16good luck selling them, or you can loan me
  508. 30:18another billion dollars, and I'll get us out of this
  509. 30:21with time, and guess what happened?
  510. 30:23That was in the late 80s, early 90s, and guess what?
  511. 30:26It worked.
  512. 30:27So it's really about leveraging the value of your knowledge
  513. 30:31with the banks, in this case, governments,
  514. 30:34or private investment, to be able to weather the storm
  515. 30:38enough to lower the rates, to be able to,
  516. 30:40and the assistant man can put together
  517. 30:42a debt repayment plan.
  518. 30:44The only thing is the long-term liabilities
  519. 30:46now we see $107 trillion.
  520. 30:50You can't get out of that.
  521. 30:51That is social security benefits,
  522. 30:53I would say the majority of it is,
  523. 30:55but then Medicare and Medicaid go along with that
  524. 30:57because if you have social security,
  525. 30:59you're gonna have Medicare.
  526. 31:00If you have Medicare, you're gonna have Medicaid.
  527. 31:02And so you've got that,
  528. 31:03and then you got military spending,
  529. 31:05which is gonna increase at least four or 5% per year,
  530. 31:07because now we're taking on China and Russia,
  531. 31:09which they've increased their budgets.
  532. 31:11So we had to maintain some consistency
  533. 31:13in increasing our budgets,
  534. 31:14so we can have innovation,
  535. 31:16both in software, hardware, and military applications,
  536. 31:20and such as ships and satellites and missiles
  537. 31:23and radar and drones and anti-drones and lasers.
  538. 31:26So you're gonna have to stay innovative
  539. 31:28in order to be able to be the powerhouse,
  540. 31:31okay, one to be competitive in any application.
  541. 31:34In this case, it's military.
  542. 31:35So you're gonna have incremental increase.
  543. 31:37The question is will tax cuts,
  544. 31:39that's one. We'll lowering the interest rates free up credit so that increases overall GDP be enough
  545. 31:45because so security is killing us. There's no question about it was a bad plan under Roosevelt.
  546. 31:51It's been a bad plan ever since. So we're going to have to re-bamp the method of which we collect
  547. 31:56those taxes and how we apply those taxes down the road. I think Trump's going to be like any other
  548. 32:03president. He's going to come up with something new. I would say he'd do it's a personal type of
  549. 32:07investment account and if we do that it's been mathematically shown that we can
  550. 32:11get out of the Social Security liability business within 10 to 15 years and
  551. 32:14especially if we lower taxes on some of these other areas.
  552. 32:19Hold on for good measure.
  553. 32:20Christian Briggs we're talking about the economy. Alex McFarlane here we've got
  554. 32:24to take a break. Don't go away. When we come back we'll talk about tariffs. Stay
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  579. 34:17all over the nation. I'm in a pulpit somewhere, a conference, a camp, a church, somewhere every
  580. 34:23weekend of the year. But we're doing a speaker series this summer in Myrtle Beach, the number
  581. 34:28one resort city in America, 17.2 million people a year from all 50 states go there. And they've
  582. 34:34We've got a music industry kind of like Branson, Missouri, and I've rented the Alabama Theatre,
  583. 34:40the Greg Roles Theatre.
  584. 34:42We're bringing in Charlie Kirk.
  585. 34:43We're bringing in Lauren Green from Fox News.
  586. 34:46We're bringing in Dinesh DeSouza.
  587. 34:49Dinesh made the incredible movie, You've Got to Watch It.
  588. 34:53And I've known Dinesh 18 years.
  589. 34:55He is brilliant, an Ivy League.
  590. 34:58He is truly a great Christian American, served in the Reagan White House.
  591. 35:02He did a movie called Vindicating Trump that I would urge you to watch.
  592. 35:07Maybe you're one of these, you're just not so sure about Donald Trump or not.
  593. 35:11I've met Trump.
  594. 35:12I've been in many phone call with faith leaders with President Trump on the phone.
  595. 35:17I've spoken with him personally.
  596. 35:19You need to see Dinesia's movie, Vindicating Trump.
  597. 35:23But also, if you want to hear him in person, just he is brilliant.
  598. 35:28May 4th.
  599. 35:29So it's coming up in just a month and a half.
  600. 35:31I'll have Dinesh at the Greg Roles Theater.
  601. 35:34He's part of my summer speaker series, Conversations That Matter.
  602. 35:38And you can learn more about that, AlexMcFarlane.com
  603. 35:42slash Conversations.
  604. 35:44And we would love for you to come out and get equipped.
  605. 35:47Because as Christian Briggs is teaching us,
  606. 35:51these are tough times, no time to panic.
  607. 35:54But it is time to have a clear head, be informed,
  608. 35:57have our house in order.
  609. 35:59And I think the Lord that God has raised up Christian Briggs to help our government get
  610. 36:06its house in order.
  611. 36:09Christian, I want to talk about tariffs, but before we do, I want to give you a chance to
  612. 36:13finish.
  613. 36:14Before the break, you were talking about a plan going forward.
  614. 36:18And I also, with just this one segment left, I want you to give us some homework assignment
  615. 36:24about getting our house in order, having our house in order, if, as you say, gold goes
  616. 36:32up just before an economic crisis, they're probably countless people listening right now,
  617. 36:41and they think, you know, millions, billions, thousands, look, I'm dealing with hundreds of
  618. 36:48dollars, not millions of dollars.
  619. 36:51What advice do you have for us in getting our house in order and may God also grant that
  620. 36:57our government gets its financial house in order, but moving forward, what advice do you
  621. 37:03have for us?
  622. 37:04Two things.
  623. 37:06The number one thing that people need to do is they have to look at their debt to income
  624. 37:11ratio.
  625. 37:12You always want to have no more than 50% of your net income servicing your debt.
  626. 37:18That was also your monthly expenses.
  627. 37:20If you're making a hundred thousand a year and you have about an eight plus thousand a month after taxes
  628. 37:25Let's say you have six your cumulative cost of living should really not exceed three to four thousand per month
  629. 37:32You always want to have about fifteen to twenty percent of your net income into savings now one thing to make a note is that gold
  630. 37:38Again, we would know we do deal in it
  631. 37:40We don't want to try to make it sound like it's the only investment
  632. 37:43But actually since two thousand it just was made known today that it outperformed the scp
  633. 37:49five hundred during that period from two thousand to current. So we like to think that
  634. 37:54people should diversify. You got equities, you have bonds, real estate, a lot of people
  635. 37:58have it in their homes, so that's good. And then you have gold because obviously it's going
  636. 38:02up what 60% in the past two years where the equity markets haven't even come close to that.
  637. 38:07So we know that it does move aggressively prior to something and that something is always
  638. 38:15bad news. So as we try to transition from a lot of the, I call it the helicopter money
  639. 38:21and the low interest rates that we've been so fortunate to have for over 40 years, to
  640. 38:25higher rates, less liquidity, higher cost of borrowing, higher cost of living with inflation.
  641. 38:31Gold is obviously helping to create a wealth where systematically some of the other assets
  642. 38:37that are called soft assets are now starting to decline. So you've always got to have a
  643. 38:40the diversified, you know, 20% of your investment capital long-term should be in precious metals.
  644. 38:47So that's good advice, good advice. How can people, you say, you know, debt servicing,
  645. 38:56no more than 50% of our monthly income should go to that. Now, a mortgage, a car loan,
  646. 39:05What about groceries, the light bill, the phone bill, do you consider that debt or just monthly overhead?
  647. 39:14For a house. That's monthly overhead. That's good. I think what we call our fixed debt, which is usually
  648. 39:21just mortgage car payment insurance, little things like that, should really not exceed 50 to 60 percent
  649. 39:26of your net income. The rest of it is going to be in celery items like groceries, and that'll fluctuate.
  650. 39:32You have other utilities with a fluctuate, and you have travel, or you have some kind of a leisure.
  651. 39:38There's always going to be variables, and sometimes you come back a little bit, but the one thing to
  652. 39:41remember is don't ever use a credit card in finance application. Now, you can, when I say finance,
  653. 39:47it means you want to sell it off over a year. Don't do that. If you can't pay cash for the vacation
  654. 39:52within a reasonable short time, usually 90 days from the time you take that vacation,
  655. 39:56that's okay to have a couple of three months to pay it off. But if it takes a whole year, that's
  656. 40:01bad business because your interest on that debt can inflate and magnify the cost of that
  657. 40:06much more than what people realize. So again, I'm not here to say that you can't do that. I'm just
  658. 40:11saying to be prudent about it, to be very frugal about the way in which you spend that money and
  659. 40:16try to maintain the consistency of savings, is that you should really think about more short-term
  660. 40:23liability debt payoff. And when it comes to vacations, never take a year or two. I mean, I know
  661. 40:29know people that, oh, I spent $20,000 on vacation.
  662. 40:31Took me a year to pay it off, and I'm about to do it again.
  663. 40:34And I go, no, I didn't take you $20,000.
  664. 40:36It took you longer, more than that, longer than that.
  665. 40:38And they're like, what do you mean?
  666. 40:39I said, well, go to look at the interest you paid on that.
  667. 40:41Another $10,000, I think, was what my buddy told me.
  668. 40:44And he's like, oh, boy.
  669. 40:45So these are the things that you got to kind of think about.
  670. 40:48Where could that extra $10,000 grant an interest go?
  671. 40:50Well, if you're married, I mean, that could be college money.
  672. 40:52That could be extra cash in the bank.
  673. 40:53It could be a little bit of gold, a little bit of money
  674. 40:56towards your debt on your mortgage.
  675. 40:57Things like.
  676. 40:58Absolutely. And I think that once you realize that we are stewards of this money, it's not really ours.
  677. 41:05So the more we give to rational, and I say this, rational thinking, okay, just rational thinking of fiscal policy and how our own households, the more we're going to get.
  678. 41:17Plus, it gives the family a lot of secure feelings that we're doing, what's needed to be done to ensure that when the bad times, hard times, or anytime comes,
  679. 41:26You've got that liquidity, you've got that growth, and you've got the asset you need it
  680. 41:30in time calls for it in case something happens.
  681. 41:33Now, lose a job or unseen costs.
  682. 41:37You always want to have some cash on hand.
  683. 41:40So let's talk about tariffs.
  684. 41:41You know, Christian, down in the South, I used to hear the grownups talk about found money.
  685. 41:48Maybe a revenue stream that was untapped, and they would say, okay, that's found money.
  686. 41:53tariffs found money for our nation?
  687. 41:57Well, they sure can be.
  688. 41:59Absolutely.
  689. 42:01Tariffs are a method to negotiate at the table to create a absolute level playing field.
  690. 42:10That doesn't mean that we have to use them to undermine our customers, or in this
  691. 42:16case, our business partners, in a sense, other countries like China, India, Mexico, Canada.
  692. 42:22we do have trade relations that must be maintained.
  693. 42:26But we're gonna have a $1.3 trillion trade deficit,
  694. 42:31the majority of which, not all of it,
  695. 42:33but a big chunk of it's gonna be with China.
  696. 42:35They're not our partners in many ways,
  697. 42:37but they are a way of which that we need to make things
  698. 42:40that lower the cost of everyday things here.
  699. 42:42So it maintains a lower average inflationary environment.
  700. 42:46So when we talk about China,
  701. 42:49Their method is to destroy the US's financial system
  702. 42:53by destroying the dollar.
  703. 42:54They've been doing that by sucking 800 billion,
  704. 42:57900 billion a year away from 700 billion,
  705. 43:00in some cases of a trade deficit.
  706. 43:04So for example, Alex, you and I decide
  707. 43:06you don't, we're gonna do business together.
  708. 43:08I'm gonna buy from you a thousand dollars,
  709. 43:10you're gonna buy from me a thousand dollars,
  710. 43:12both of which are products that neither one of us have,
  711. 43:14so it's a good relationship.
  712. 43:16Now, all of a sudden I say,
  713. 43:17you're not buying as much from me as I'm buying from you
  714. 43:21and you're manipulating your currency or you're doing this,
  715. 43:24you're doing that, you're doing things in which
  716. 43:25that would give you an unfair advantage
  717. 43:28when China entered the World Trade Organization,
  718. 43:31you're not allowed to do that.
  719. 43:32Well, China, the day they did it,
  720. 43:34they started mini-playing their currency,
  721. 43:36they brought it down so their widgets,
  722. 43:38whatever the manufacturing items are,
  723. 43:39became less expensive than American manufacturing.
  724. 43:41And two, which was really bad,
  725. 43:44they started dumping products on our shores
  726. 43:47for below cost called predatory selling.
  727. 43:49Well known.
  728. 43:50See, Trump's a master at understanding
  729. 43:53the variables of the deal.
  730. 43:55And he loves to negotiate and waste to the last minute,
  731. 43:58like any good businessman would,
  732. 44:00to negotiate the final, final details of a deal.
  733. 44:03And that's what you want.
  734. 44:03You want to be able to get everyone at the table
  735. 44:05and their exhaust, they're tired.
  736. 44:07So the tariffs, by definition, are very good ways of which
  737. 44:13to bring everyone to the table and say,
  738. 44:14Hey, you're buying a billion from me, but I'm buying two billion from you.
  739. 44:19We're not doing that anymore.
  740. 44:21You're going to buy two billion from me.
  741. 44:23I'll buy two billion from you.
  742. 44:24I've needed items.
  743. 44:25They're needed things back and forth.
  744. 44:26So they're critical to infrastructure and economy.
  745. 44:29So they are, they're good things, but we're going to level the playing field.
  746. 44:33And the tariffs are going to do that.
  747. 44:34Now, is it going to happen next week?
  748. 44:37No, the tariffs could kick in today in the biggest way and the results will not be
  749. 44:41seen for at least six to 12 months.
  750. 44:43But remember, Trump as a man and the businessman has had the ability to maintain the consistency
  751. 44:52of what he's done in a private sector when he built all these huge towers and hotels.
  752. 44:56Look at Trump, Tower on Fifth Avenue.
  753. 44:58It's amazing.
  754. 44:59Wasn't built in a week though.
  755. 45:00It would take time.
  756. 45:01Very successful.
  757. 45:02So he knows the art of the deal.
  758. 45:04So what he's going to do is he's going to continue to negotiate to the last second, the last drop
  759. 45:09of the lemon to ensure the viability of the deal goes in our favor at least at the playing
  760. 45:15field and then made America our quality is second to none. Made in America is the good
  761. 45:20housekeeping seal of approval. We will win not based on price. We will win on quality. And
  762. 45:27that's what's coming. So when the tariffs kick in, so does made America and so does those
  763. 45:31manufacturing jobs.
  764. 45:34So though, like in Canada, I've seen Christian on the news, okay, the shelves are empty of
  765. 45:42American products.
  766. 45:43What about the retaliation?
  767. 45:44And of course, the left is saying, oh my goodness, this is destroying diplomatic relations
  768. 45:50with countries.
  769. 45:53What about, let me ask you this one.
  770. 45:56Do you feel like there are leaders and citizens that have the maturity and the power of the
  771. 46:04patience to wait for the benefits of the tariffs to manifest themselves?
  772. 46:10No question. Let's talk about Canada. Who's Canada? Canada are great people. I grew up in
  773. 46:15Minnesota. I love Canadians. They're like neighbors. They were my cousins actually in a sense. We
  774. 46:20used to go through all the time. The great people of Canada is very simple. They're great people.
  775. 46:26Their leadership under Tredu was lacking the character and integrity in the
  776. 46:33capitalistic markets and he was leaning towards socialism at its finest
  777. 46:37which is not a person with the kind of character and integrity that gives the
  778. 46:42people the value of the position he held. He should be lowering the regulatory
  779. 46:47environment, lowering the tax base and he should have been making more effort for
  780. 46:52small businesses to thrive instead of dive straight down into this quagmire of overburdened some
  781. 47:00environment of government red tape. So when Canada tries to flex their muscle, the Canada's economy is
  782. 47:07a quarter of California's less population. Now, that doesn't mean that they're all bad up there.
  783. 47:12The conservative party is a fabulous party, but the liberal party is terrible. These people just
  784. 47:17have no clue what they're doing because they think that the revenues of small businesses forever,
  785. 47:22even if they put 80% tax rates.
  786. 47:24And when you do the tax rates that are currently
  787. 47:26are 50%, 60% on top of the regulatory environment,
  788. 47:30the cost burden and the tax is probably equal 70%, 80%
  789. 47:34of somebody's annual profit.
  790. 47:36Certainly, it's close to it if not right at the money,
  791. 47:39based on what we look at.
  792. 47:40And so Canada, it tries to flex their muscle,
  793. 47:43go flex your muscle.
  794. 47:44Here's the problem.
  795. 47:45What muscle do you have against a $30 trillion economy
  796. 47:49when you've been stealing 40 billion a year in trade deficit.
  797. 47:52You've been allowing cheap steel and aluminum to become into your country from China through
  798. 47:58predatory selling back into America and you're doing it and you're allowing it at artificial
  799. 48:03low rates to hurt our manufacturing industry.
  800. 48:06Trump's like no more, no more of that kind of stuff.
  801. 48:09So Canada better get with the program quickly because if they don't, what's going to happen
  802. 48:14is their economy is going to go to zero, not in a little sense, but certainly it's going
  803. 48:18to be heard, because who makes Canada who they are? We do. We make China, we make Canada
  804. 48:24we make it.
  805. 48:25I'm so sorry, we're almost out of time. Christian Briggs, Hard Asset Management, Alex McFarland,
  806. 48:31thanks for listening. Blessings, prosperity for you all. Stay true to God and our country.
  807. 48:40The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American
  808. 48:44Family Association or American Family Radio.

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