Guest Host, Alex McFarland, is joined by Brian Sanders, the CEO, Executive Producer, Film Director and Producer for the Why Stand With Israel Ministry Film Series

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1. 0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
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11. 0:34Well, good evening.
12. 0:35Alex McFarland here.
13. 0:36Very honored to be sitting in for attorney, pastor, broadcaster Abe Hamilton III.
14. 0:43We've got a great show tonight.
15. 0:45We're going to be talking about Israel.
16. 0:47And we're going to meet the producer of a documentary film on why stand with Israel.
17. 0:52And there's just a lot of accolades and things we could say about that film.
18. 0:57So you'll meet Brian Sanders in just a moment.
19. 0:59I want to welcome you. I've got the great privilege of being on the Hamilton corner,
20. 1:04kind of frequently. And by the way, this week, as Abe Hamilton is doing some traveling,
21. 1:09later on in the week, we've got an interview with Christian Briggs, who's an economist and
22. 1:16is a consultant to the Trump White House about tariffs, what do tariffs mean, what about the
23. 1:21state of the economy. A lot of good content this week on the Hamilton corner and tonight is no
24. 1:28exception. By the way, if you recognize my voice, such as it is, my southern voice, you
25. 1:35might have heard me on a show called Exploring the Word that we do live five days a week on
26. 1:41the American Family Radio Network, four to five Eastern time and in the time zone of your
27. 1:46choice. Bert Harper and I on Exploring the Word have been teaching the Bible for a lot
28. 1:52of years. And it's a great privilege to sit in on the Hamilton corner and talk about
29. 1:57issues from a biblical perspective. And so I want to queue up the guests that we've got,
30. 2:04and I'm going to throw out a number. And the number is 16. And you say, well, what is that
31. 2:10about? 16 awards. I'm on the page, why stand with Israel.com. And I will tell you, I've interviewed
32. 2:21people that have done a lot of projects, been a part of a lot of video and audio and publishing
33. 2:27projects myself and the documentary film
34. 2:32inspiring the global church to stand more
35. 2:35with the apple of God's eye. Oh these awards just
36. 2:39on and on film festival after film festival
37. 2:43after competition after so many things
38. 2:48around the world. This documentary has one
39. 2:52that I can see 16 major film
40. 2:56awards. The accolades are just incredible. So we're going to visit with, we're going to
41. 3:02learn about this from the producer Brian Sanders and the challenge is to stand with Israel.
42. 3:10And so I'm excited to talk with the person behind this documentary. It's endorsed by our
43. 3:18longtime friend David Barton of Wall Builders, Michelle Bachman, so many others. But the
44. 3:23The director is Brian Sanders.
45. 3:26And so Brian, I welcome you to the American Family Radio Network and I thank you for what
46. 3:31you're doing to encourage and inform people that they might stand with Israel.
47. 3:36Hey Brian, are you there?
48. 3:43Brian?
49. 3:45Okay, we're trying to get Brian Sanders on.
50. 3:49Brian, are you with us?
51. 3:52Hey, crew, do we have Brian?
52. 3:58Do we have Brian Sanders?
53. 4:02I don't know. Hey, let me know when we get Brian Sanders.
54. 4:06One of the people that endorses this documentary is a friend of mine for many, many two decades
55. 4:13plus Dr. Michael Brown. And Dr. Brown says of the film, Why Stand With Israel? He says,
56. 4:21this is why you need to see the film. It will be your, it will open your eyes to God's heart
57. 4:26in a refreshing new way.
58. 4:29Somebody else that endorses it is a person I've had the privilege of being interviewed
59. 4:34by many, many times, which is Sid Roth of the TV show.
60. 4:39I'm sure you've seen Sid Roth.
61. 4:41He's a born-again Jewish man himself.
62. 4:44He said, the reason I participated in this film, the reason I'm endorsing this film,
63. 4:49is when you invest in the Jewish harvest, I believe many are going to come to the Lord.
64. 4:55You know what the Bible says in Genesis 12, God told Abraham, I will bless them, bless
65. 5:02the and curse those who curse you.
66. 5:06And I've often said this that the greatest favor any president could do the American
67. 5:11people is to stand with the nation of Israel.
68. 5:14Even right now Israel is in the news.
69. 5:18It's amazing how whenever Israel engages in self-defense, the secular world will accuse
70. 5:28Israel of genocide or things like that.
71. 5:32Even right now, Israel is being accused of having broken this ceasefire.
72. 5:39Here's the thing, the strikes in Gaza are because Hamas did not keep their word.
73. 5:49But you know, I'm old enough.
74. 5:50I don't know if you remember.
75. 5:51Let's go back and lay down a little bit of history.
76. 5:53Do you remember the, in 1978, the Ayatollah Khomeini deposed the Shah of Iran?
77. 6:03Now many of you will know this, but just for those that don't.
78. 6:06And it seems like Islam and violence in the Middle East has been in the news like every
79. 6:13day of my life for years.
80. 6:16Well in 1978 the Shah of Iran sought sanctuary here in America.
81. 6:21And at that time, I mean you should google the pictures.
82. 6:24I ran in the 70s.
83. 6:28They're pictures of college girls walking around with an arm load of books being educated.
84. 6:35But what happened, the Ayatollah Khomeini, there was a revolution and the imposition
85. 6:40of Sharia law.
86. 6:42And Iran, which had been fairly westernized to be a Middle Eastern country, predominantly
87. 6:49Islamic, Middle Eastern country, the Shah, the leader, was thrown out for his life ran
88. 6:58to America.
89. 7:00And then Sharia law had been imposed ever since.
90. 7:05And of course, during the Carter years, humor me as I lay a little bit of groundwork.
91. 7:10I don't know if you remember the last year or so of Jimmy Carter's administration instead
92. 7:16of statesmanship.
93. 7:18They called it blinkmanship.
94. 7:20And I'll never forget the debate in 1980.
95. 7:24It was Reagan versus Carter.
96. 7:27And Reagan said, look, we've got to end this thing.
97. 7:32And they asked Jimmy Carter in the debates.
98. 7:35They said, President Carter, if you get reelected, what are you going to do to end the hostage
99. 7:42situation?
100. 7:43And I ran the violence and not only were the Muslim jihadists then, they were at death to
101. 7:53America, death to Israel, death to any infidel that opposed the Sharia.
102. 8:00I will never forget, and I was just like 14.
103. 8:03I didn't know much about anything.
104. 8:04But I remember Carter said in the debate,
105. 8:08well if we could just sit down and talk to this Ayatollah,
106. 8:13I'm sure we could figure something out.
107. 8:16We just need to sit at the table and talk.
108. 8:20And it reminded me of what I had heard of Neville Chamberlain.
109. 8:24Do you remember Neville Chamberlain?
110. 8:26He went and brokered a peace deal with Adolf Hitler.
111. 8:31and Churchill, they said Churchill, you're a warmonger.
112. 8:36Neville Chamberlain comes back to England
113. 8:38after having met with the Third Reich,
114. 8:40and he says as he's getting off the plane,
115. 8:43he said, all in London may sleep peaceably tonight.
116. 8:48This Hitler, I find him to be a likable chap
117. 8:52and we can trust him.
118. 8:54Now meanwhile back in Berlin,
119. 8:57Adolf Hitler told the press about Neville Chamberlain,
120. 9:00He said, tell that old man, if he ever comes back here again,
121. 9:04I'll jump up and down on his stomach for the photographers.
122. 9:09And of course, the ink wasn't dry on a treaty
123. 9:14between Germany and England, and Hitler continued his role
124. 9:20across Europe.
125. 9:21So in the debate in 1980 between Carter and Reagan,
126. 9:26and I was just a kid, but I just remember things,
127. 9:30and they said well candidate Reagan, Governor Reagan of California, if you become the president,
128. 9:35how are you going to address the hostage situation?
129. 9:38And Reagan, they called him the great communicator.
130. 9:41He looked into the camera, I'll never forget.
131. 9:44And of course, the snowflakes nearly had a brain aneurysm.
132. 9:49Reagan said, you listen to me, Mr. Ayatollah, if I'm elected president, I will mop the floor
133. 9:55with you.
134. 9:57Everybody is...
135. 9:58Oh my goodness, it's World War III.
136. 10:00I remember I had an English teacher, I was in 9th grade, and she called him Ronald Reagan,
137. 10:06not Ronald Reagan, but Reagan.
138. 10:08Oh, Reagan will get us all killed.
139. 10:10Well, if you remember, January of 81, the inauguration day, Reagan had barely said the
140. 10:18oath of office, and all the hostages in Iran were on an airplane ride home, because they
141. 10:24knew there was an adult in the room who meant business.
142. 10:29And in a way, when I think about Churchill, when I think about Reagan, in the very same
143. 10:34vernacular, you may disagree with me, but it reminds me of Donald Trump.
144. 10:40But we're talking about Israel, and Hamas has broken the ceasefire countless, endless
145. 10:47times over the last 47 years, whether it be, you know, on more sadot getting assassinated
146. 10:56for trying to negotiate peace with Israel and working with America.
147. 11:01The Islamic fundamentalist assassinated Sadat, you know,
148. 11:04who was sitting right there at a public function next to Lady Dai.
149. 11:11Go all the way back to Nadir in 1948,
150. 11:16when Israel became a nation again.
151. 11:19And that's thanks to Balfour, who was a Christian,
152. 11:23Eisenhower, who was a Christian, Churchill, who I believe was a Christian from everything
153. 11:30I studied, and Chaim Weitzman and David Ben-Gurion, who was the first Prime Minister.
154. 11:39Well, one of the leaders of Syria was a Muslim.
155. 11:45His name was Nadir.
156. 11:47Even to this folks, and you tell me if you believe that terrorists can be trusted.
157. 11:55When Israel was going to be reconstituted as a nation in May of 1948, there's a letter,
158. 12:01there's a documentary that CBN produced.
159. 12:04Nadir of Syria wrote a letter to Ben-Gurion and Vitesman and said, once again, he said,
160. 12:16We welcome the Jews back to their ancestral homeland and how good it will be once again
161. 12:25when the children of Ishmael sit down and break bread in fellowship with the children
162. 12:31of Isaac.
163. 12:34And about six weeks later Nadir was dead.
164. 12:38He was poisoned.
165. 12:39They said his stomach and intestines turned to concrete and he was killed.
166. 12:46There was of course the six day war in 67, there was the Yom Kippur War in 73, there have
167. 12:53been endless conflicts and conflagrations.
168. 12:58And that's why, you know, Brian Sanders and the film, the award winning film, and I'm looking
169. 13:04at the endorsers of I stand, or why, why stand with Israel.
170. 13:10Dr. Michael Brown, Michelle Bachmann, who I've interviewed on this network, Sid Roth, who we love.
171. 13:18David Barton, who I've known since the late 90s, folks, you need to know this incredible film.
172. 13:26When we come back, we're going to meet with Brian Sanders. Mr. Sanders, are you there, sir?
173. 13:31Yes, I am. Can you hear me?
174. 13:33I can hear you. Thank you. I've been laying a little bit of groundwork, and even as we speak,
175. 13:39Hamas is being fired upon because they broke the terms of the ceasefire
176. 13:45agreement. I look forward to really picking your brain. Before we take a quick
177. 13:49break into first segment, give us the website. How can people be involved? Why
178. 13:57should America invest their attention in this film? Why stand with Israel? Yes, thank
179. 14:04you Alex and first of all, thank you so much for having me on the program. They
180. 14:08We can find out more about our film on our website at YStandWithIsrael.com.
181. 14:15We also have, I would love for you to check out our YStand with Israel Facebook page, our
182. 14:20Instagram, our Twitter, our X page and also our LinkedIn page.
183. 14:26You know, the intent of our film was simply to educate and inspire the global church to
184. 14:31live out its biblical responsibility to stand with Israel.
185. 14:35So, hey, hold up.
186. 14:36Forgive me.
187. 14:37Hold that thought.
188. 14:38We've got to take a brief break.
189. 14:39We're going to come back with Brian Sanders, executive producer, director, Ystand with Israel,
190. 14:44a film with incredible accolades and awards and endorsements.
191. 14:49You want to learn about this film and we'll stand with Israel.
192. 14:53Stay tuned.
193. 14:54More after this, plus your calls.
194. 14:56Don't go away.
195. 15:00A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker.
196. 15:03You know, often schools have mascots of animals that reflect a certain air of strength or boldness
197. 15:10or something to be admired.
198. 15:12You know, you think of schools with a mascot of the lions, the tigers, the bears, the bulldogs,
199. 15:17the wildcats, all kinds of mascots.
200. 15:20As I think about it, I've never heard of a school with a mascot that's a sheep.
201. 15:25Because sheep don't strike fear or terror or great admiration in their ability to lead to
202. 15:32to conquer, to overcome.
203. 15:34Sheep are very, very helpless animals.
204. 15:38So many places in scripture.
205. 15:40God alludes to people as being like sheep.
206. 15:44Obviously, that's never an insult on God's part.
207. 15:46It's a statement of reality.
208. 15:48And the fact is sheep desperately need a shepherd.
209. 15:52And we are like sheep.
210. 15:53We desperately need our shepherd, our good shepherd,
211. 15:56the Lord Jesus Christ.
212. 15:58Shiting light into the darkness.
213. 16:08This is the Hamilton Corner, on American Family Radio.
214. 16:13Hey, welcome back to the show.
215. 16:14Alex McFarland here, always honored to sit in for Abe
216. 16:17Hamilton.
217. 16:18And hey, before we resume our conversation with the film
218. 16:21producer and director, Brian Sanders,
219. 16:23hey, I've got a little bit of a commercial that I think
220. 16:28you're going to be interested.
221. 16:29We are doing a speaker series over the summer.
222. 16:32And we've got Charlie Kirk.
223. 16:33We've got Lauren Green from Fox News.
224. 16:35But listen to this folks, coming up May 4th,
225. 16:39so that's only five or six weeks away.
226. 16:40Just one of the best voices in the world.
227. 16:43He's been a personal friend for 18 years, Dinesh, DeSouza.
228. 16:47Now, Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, now listen in folks.
229. 16:51Myrtle Beach, they call it America's Beach,
230. 16:54the number one resort town in America.
231. 16:56There's a theater industry, they're kind of like Branson, Missouri.
232. 16:59I have rented two theaters.
233. 17:01I've rented the Greg Roles Theater.
234. 17:04I've rented the Alabama theater.
235. 17:06Now what I'm doing, I call this conversations that matter.
236. 17:11And this speaker series, number one, I ask for your prayers.
237. 17:15But I'm going to tell you about next week a lunch that I want you to come to.
238. 17:18If you live, if you're in Charleston, Florence, Dylan, Wilmington, Myrtle Beach, Conway, Charlotte,
239. 17:27if you're in this region next week, I want you to come to have lunch with me and I'll
240. 17:33explain. But on May 4th, it's the kickoff. Dinesh D'Souza, he was a policy analyst in the Reagan White
241. 17:40House. Listen, I've shared the stage with Dinesh. This guy is brilliant, brilliant, and you can hear
242. 17:48him in person. May 4th, we've got Dinesh D'Souza, and he's going to be giving commentary on Trump's
243. 17:56100 first days in office, American politics, and the role of the church in the public square.
244. 18:05So go to my website, AlexMcFarlane.com, slash conversations.
245. 18:10Now next week, Wednesday, March 26, Thursday, March 27, what are we doing?
246. 18:15I'm having lunch for two days and listen folks, lunch is on me.
247. 18:19If you come, if you're in the Myrtle Beach region, and Wilmington is just an hour away,
248. 18:27so come to lunch.
249. 18:29For one thing, I'm going to give you a free book.
250. 18:31You'll get one of my books, 100 Bible Questions and Answers.
251. 18:35And then I'm going to give a message about worldview, and a part of the worldview is
252. 18:40Israel and just what, as citizens and Christians we should do.
253. 18:45Then I'm going to tell you about hearing Dinesh and we need your help.
254. 18:50We really do because folks we're in a battle not only for of course the soul of people,
255. 18:57our families, our churches.
256. 18:59We're in a battle for America and Israel is a part of that.
257. 19:04So here's the email if you want to come to lunch and lunch is on me and we've got two
258. 19:09really great restaurants reserved.
259. 19:11Please email me, contact at AlexMcFarlane.com.
260. 19:16See you in TACT.
261. 19:18Contact at AlexMcFarlane.com.
262. 19:22If you want to come either Wednesday, March 26, Thursday, March 27, and we'll have lunch,
263. 19:28you'll get a book, we'll visit, and we'll talk about God and Country.
264. 19:33Hey, what's not to like?
265. 19:35Well, right now, I want to bring on a colleague and friend, Brian Sanders.
266. 19:39that Brian, I want to thank you for being on with us.
267. 19:42Brian is the producer of a film.
268. 19:45It's got the endorsement of some of our most respected leaders,
269. 19:4916 awards I counted on the page here, and, or no, 20, I guess it is.
270. 19:58But why stand with Israel.com?
271. 20:03The one who brings this film to the world, Brian Sanders is our guest now.
272. 20:08brian thank you so much for being with us
273. 20:10well it's an honor alexa be on your program thanks so much for having me
274. 20:15how did you
275. 20:16how did you
276. 20:17become interested in israel and u s israel relations
277. 20:23and uh...
278. 20:24give us your journey and how you came to create this resource
279. 20:29well uh... in twenty thirteen i was working full-time uh... with the christian
280. 20:34broadcasting network and i was asked to
281. 20:37cover president obama's only visit to israel
282. 20:40and after president obama left
283. 20:43uh... i uh... always want to go to israel
284. 20:46uh... but i i i when i got my mike what my name was called to
285. 20:51to uh... film this uh...
286. 20:53one once in a lifetime event it was a great honor for me
287. 20:56so after president obama left
288. 20:58i had a great uh... theological conversation with a good friend of mine
289. 21:03and after we were
290. 21:05talking
291. 21:06He just said to me, I think you have some replacement theology in you.
292. 21:11And at the time, Alex, I had no idea what that was.
293. 21:15And I, I loved Israel, but I wasn't a strong supporter.
294. 21:20I knew the Jewish people were the chosen people at the time.
295. 21:24And I knew God had made all these promises and covenants with Israel.
296. 21:28But when he said to me, I think you may have some replacement theology in you.
297. 21:31I wonder, did I add or subtract from God's Word that scripture tells us not to?
298. 21:37Did I take God's Word out of context?
299. 21:39Or perhaps maybe I somehow blatantly just spoke in the Word of God's Word.
300. 21:44And then when he shared with me what replacement theology was, I knew I was an error.
301. 21:48I completely and automatically, instantly just repented.
302. 21:54And so for your audience that may not know what replacement theology is, I know you do.
303. 21:58You're a pastor.
304. 21:59It's this notion that the church believes that God replaced His covenantal people and land
305. 22:06with us the church, and that is completely in error.
306. 22:10Now when God makes a covenant with somebody or a nation, it says not for a season, it's
307. 22:15eternal, it's everlasting.
308. 22:18And so I think of Numbers 23-19 and it says that God is not a man that should lie or
309. 22:24change his mind and unfortunately I twisted scripture because the church I was going to
310. 22:30at the time, I won't mention the name of the church, we did say that. We said where the
311. 22:35new Israel, you know, we took the scripture out of context when God said that they were
312. 22:40stiffnecked. We took that that God moved from them and replaced them with this new people
313. 22:47group known as the Gentile Christians because they accepted his son. And so I wasn't ever,
314. 22:53I immediately repented and at that time Alex I asked the Lord to give me a burden
315. 22:59For his covenantal people the Jewish people and the nation of Israel and since then
316. 23:04Yeah, I guess the rest is a you know as I say is the rest of the story
317. 23:07You know what happened and so this journey led not only to this film
318. 23:12But now it's a film series and so it took us about eight and a half years to make this film and I got its perfect timing
319. 23:19we were able to international lease it on Israel's birthday last year on May 14th and since then
320. 23:26we were 19 awards we're up for a couple more but you know the the bigger thing that gets me excited
321. 23:32and is that the church is waking up they're standing up more for the people and nation that
322. 23:39God sent his only son to you know the guy talks about no other nation more in his word than the nation
323. 23:45of Israel approximately 2,400 times from Genesis to Revelation.
324. 23:51I mean it shows how much God loves the Jewish people in the nation of Israel.
325. 23:55And there's no other nation or people that he has these loving endearment nicknames like
326. 23:59the apple of my eye, my treasure possession.
327. 24:03I mean even Jesus we know said that I come to the law sheep of the house of Israel.
328. 24:10It wasn't America, it wasn't Palestine, it wasn't Rome or the Vatican.
329. 24:14He said, I come to the law sheep of the house of Israel.
330. 24:18And he even said that salvation comes from the Jews.
331. 24:21He was talking about himself because he was fully Jewish.
332. 24:25I think sometimes in the church,
333. 24:26we kind of want to paint this narrative.
334. 24:29And I know Hollywood kind of depicts him
335. 24:31as this blonde hair blue eyed surfer,
336. 24:33you see sometimes in films, but he was fully Jewish.
337. 24:37And you know, his last name wasn't Christ,
338. 24:41it's just the title.
339. 24:42And his, a break equivalent, we all know, is the Messiah,
340. 24:46which means the anointing one, the holy one of Israel.
341. 24:50And so I think, yeah.
342. 24:52Yeah, I gotta ask you a question because your film,
343. 24:55and by the way, if you're just tuning in,
344. 24:57Alex McFarland here, we're talking with Brian Sanders
345. 25:00about the wonderful film,
346. 25:02why stand with Israel?
347. 25:05About five years ago, we had an award-winning video producer
348. 25:09working with us. This individual is a Jewish lady and she's won awards doing cinematography
349. 25:17for Fox, for NPR, decorated filmmaker. And we had hired her to help us edit some video.
350. 25:26She was great. And, you know, inevitably we came around to the subject of Christianity
351. 25:32in Jesus, she's Jewish, she may be listening right now. And I asked her, I said, what do
352. 25:40you know about Christianity? And it was kind of piecemeal. And she looked at me because
353. 25:47we had been working on some Christian apologetics videos. And we hired her because she was incredibly
354. 25:54talented. And she said, Matt, ask you a question. And I said, yeah, she said, do Christians
355. 25:59hate Jews. And I said, Oh my goodness, no. I said, true Christians love Jewish people.
356. 26:09True Christians, now I said, you know, we believe Jesus is Messiah. But I got to tell you, Brian,
357. 26:15it almost made me cry because there was just this look on her face of like, help me understand,
358. 26:26Do Christians hate the Jewish people?
359. 26:29Very highly educated lady.
360. 26:31And so all of that to you, why would Christians hate Jews, which true Christians don't?
361. 26:41And isn't it tragic?
362. 26:42Doesn't it just pierce your heart that the precious apple of God's eye the Jewish people
363. 26:48would think that followers of Jesus hate them?
364. 26:54to that sentiment and what we as Christians might do to address it and eliminate that sentiment.
365. 27:01Yeah, I'd be happy to. First of all, that is, I'm really sad to hear that when you shared that,
366. 27:08it was almost gut-wrenching to hear that, to which people still believe that today, but
367. 27:14honestly, can we blame them for the history of the Church and how we persecuted them,
368. 27:19how we have are still unfortunately still anti-Semitic. We've accepted this replacement theology teaching
369. 27:29that has been rampant for centuries. We have a survey in our film, Alex, that Life We Christian
370. 27:35research gave us. And the numbers are staggering of why the church is still riding the fence on where
371. 27:41they stand with Israel. And so to her point, you know, I can understand why she might be a little
372. 27:48defensive, but I would think after the last maybe 10 years or so with all the Christian evangelical support
373. 27:55coming to Israel, I would think that narrative maybe has changed a little bit, but you know,
374. 28:02we didn't really do a good service as Christians to the Jewish people in our history.
375. 28:06You know, we've labeled them as Christ-killers. I mean, just hearing that title alone. Who wants
376. 28:14to be called that. But here's the truth of that, as you know, Yeshua Jesus said I lay my life down
377. 28:21for no man. But He said I do only what I see the Father doing. It was His Father's will that He
378. 28:28would lay His life down for us. So that narrative or that label for us to call them Christ killers
379. 28:36doesn't even line up what the Scripture wouldn't you agree? Oh exactly. And let me say this,
380. 28:42Jesus was crucified on a Roman cross.
381. 28:46It was ours, my sins put him on that cross.
382. 28:50And so, yeah, I mean, the Bible says he came unto his own and his own received him not,
383. 28:58but it wasn't complete.
384. 28:59I mean, there were many Jewish believers.
385. 29:01In fact, my friend Dr. Michael Brown, I'm so glad you've got Dr. Brown into a brilliant
386. 29:08guy.
387. 29:09and born again Jewish believer. But for the first two centuries, the vast, vast majority of Christians
388. 29:19were Jewish. Listen, it was Gentile and Jew that were complicit with the Lord's crucifixion, wasn't it?
389. 29:29Yeah, well, that goes to Ephesians 2 that I know Dr. Brown teaches very well,
390. 29:34called the one new man that wall of separation was broken so Jew and gentle in Gentile in Messiah
391. 29:42can have a relationship with the Father and that that veil was torn when Yeshua Jesus was crucified
392. 29:50on La Crosse so there is no veil of separation anymore so Jew and Gentile can now come together
393. 29:55in Messiah known as the one the one new man in Ephesians 2 so I totally agree with that 100%
394. 30:02And to your point, what we were talking about before,
395. 30:06just the labels that we have given them
396. 30:10and the things we have done as a church, we as believers, as evangelicals
397. 30:14that love God, we love His Word, we know the covenants that God made
398. 30:18with Israel and the Jewish people. Matter of fact, we owe them
399. 30:22a great honor. They're the ones that wrote the Bible.
400. 30:26You know, how would we know God? You know, how would we know the scriptures
401. 30:30or no God personally and Yeshua, Jesus, if we didn't have the Bible that they wrote,
402. 30:35they were written by Jews and even Jewish believers that were called away back then,
403. 30:42the disciples and the apostles.
404. 30:44And so we owe them a great deal of gratitude.
405. 30:47And I would hope that would be the first thing Christians would do when they see the Jews,
406. 30:51people or at least even meet Jewish people.
407. 30:54First of all, apologize for how we've been in the history of the church, but also to
408. 30:58to thank them for giving us the word of God.
409. 31:01Like the scriptures that they wrote.
410. 31:03And you know what's fascinating.
411. 31:06And some of you will know what I'm talking about.
412. 31:08And by the way, if you're just tuning in,
413. 31:10we're talking with Brian Sanders of Why, Stand With Israel.
414. 31:15Just the accomplishments of the Jewish people
415. 31:17throughout history, the accomplishment of the nation of
416. 31:21Israel since 1948, just the 76, 77 years Israel has existed.
417. 31:28It is just miraculous.
418. 31:31The only word is miraculous.
419. 31:34All of the inventions, the accomplishments, contributions to medicine, contributions
420. 31:40to technology, contributions to intelligence, making the world a safer place.
421. 31:47Brian, as I do this program with you, I'm just a few miles from NORAD.
422. 31:52I've got a lot of friends in the military and many men that are, you know,
423. 31:59colonels and high intel, they talk about how it is Jewish intelligence, the best in the world,
424. 32:07that helps make the world and the USA a safer place.
425. 32:12Amen.
426. 32:13The blessing of God on the Jewish people.
427. 32:16Hey, we got to take a break. We're going to take calls.
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453. 34:15Hey, welcome back to the program.
454. 34:18Alex McFarland here is so honored to be with you this evening talking about a very important
455. 34:23subject, the nation of Israel, American-Israeli relations, and how I believe the church needs
456. 34:30to stand with Israel.
457. 34:31We're going to take your calls and again the number will get right to it in just a moment.
458. 34:35But the number if you have a question for myself or film producer Brian Sanders, the number is
459. 34:39triple eight, five, eight, nine, eighty eight, forty.
460. 34:43And again, if you want to join me for lunch next week in Myrtle Beach, just email me Wednesday
461. 34:49on Wednesday and Thursday 2627 email me contact at alexmickfarlane.com. Before we pick up the
462. 34:57phones Brian website social media platforms how can people follow you the vital work you're
463. 35:04doing and the why stand with Israel film. Well thank you Alex well they can simply just
464. 35:12go to our website why stand with Israel dot com or they can go to our why stand with Israel
465. 35:18Facebook page, our Twitter page, our X page, our Instagram page, and LinkedIn. Our film is
466. 35:28available on DVD in North America and some parts in South America like Columbia. And
467. 35:35it's also we have it on a digital download. We have it translated in six languages. We
468. 35:40a transatlantic Indonesian, Romanian, Farsi, Portuguese, Spanish, and Chinese Mandarin.
469. 35:52We just finished our Chinese Mandarin translation, so I'm not sure if it's even up on the website,
470. 35:59but give it a few days or so. But we're hoping to get this in almost every language, because
471. 36:04Because I believe not only the gospels for everybody, but I believe the bride of Christ,
472. 36:10the global bride of Christ needs to fully stand with God's first betrothed bride.
473. 36:16And that's the Jewish people in the nation of Israel.
474. 36:18And we need to do something about these numbers that are so staggering in this survey that
475. 36:25the Life Way Christian research gave us of how much the majority of the church is riding
476. 36:32the fence and where they stand with Israel. And really, the numbers are truly staggering.
477. 36:38And if you can, if it's okay, can I share some of these numbers with you, Alex?
478. 36:42Yeah, please. I read them myself, Brian, they are pretty eye opening, but please elaborate.
479. 36:49Yeah. So 32% say they have no strong views about the state of Israel. 63% don't believe
480. 36:58the promised land belongs to the Jewish people.
481. 37:01And this one.
482. 37:02This is Christians, right?
483. 37:03This is Christians.
484. 37:03This is a survey with Christians for Christians.
485. 37:06And this one is the big one.
486. 37:08This one was mind-boggling.
487. 37:10It was hard to wrap around this number
488. 37:13when we received it.
489. 37:1496% have not been influenced by their church about Israel.
490. 37:20So what does that tell you?
491. 37:22To me, it tells me that there's no real importance
492. 37:26and sharing why God shows that Jewish people in the nation of Israel to be a light unto the nations.
493. 37:33That's their prophetic calling to be a light unto the nations. There's only one people group
494. 37:38in nation on planet earth that God made an everlasting covenant with, and that is the Jewish
495. 37:44people in the nation of Israel. Thus, Christians, we weren't the first choice. We were grafted into
496. 37:50this olive tree that the Apostle Paul illustrates so beautifully in Romans 11,
497. 37:56And this olive tree, olive tree represents God's family, represents Israel.
498. 38:00And the, there is this natural olive tree known as the, where the Jewish people are,
499. 38:05they're on this natural olive tree.
500. 38:07And we were this wild olive tree that a branch was separated and
501. 38:12grafted into this cultivated olive tree with the Jewish people in the,
502. 38:18and the nation of Israel with the, she would Jesus be in the roots of this olive tree.
503. 38:22So we owe a great gratitude for the Jewish people,
504. 38:27not only for giving us the scriptures,
505. 38:30but this is where Yeshua, Jesus was, He was fully Jewish.
506. 38:35And so we have a lot of gratitude, we owe them.
507. 38:39And we hear a lot about in the scriptures,
508. 38:43like the most popular scripture to bless Israel
509. 38:45is Genesis 12, three, I will bless those who bless you.
510. 38:49And wherever it curses you, I will curse.
511. 38:51And through you, all the nations and in some version, say families on the earth will be blessed.
512. 38:57I believe the New Testament known as the Britadashiah in Hebrew.
513. 39:01There's a compliment scripture known as Romans 1527.
514. 39:05The Apostle Paul says, you know, we owe it to the Jews.
515. 39:09He says, for I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God.
516. 39:13I'm sorry, this is Romans 1 16.
517. 39:14Forgive me.
518. 39:14Yeah, yeah.
519. 39:15I'm getting mixed up.
520. 39:15Romans 1527.
521. 39:17I'm still trying to get over my cold.
522. 39:19Romans 15, 27 says, we owe it to the Jews who blessed us spiritually.
523. 39:24Well, how did we, how did they bless us spiritually?
524. 39:26They gave us the word of God.
525. 39:28It says we owe it to them to bless them materially.
526. 39:31So hang tight.
527. 39:33Forgive me.
528. 39:34I want to get to some calls we've got some people holding, but I'm with you, man.
529. 39:37The old and New Testament tells us to stand with Israel and there is a blessing in that.
530. 39:44Let's first of all, we're going to go to Ohio, Tim in Ohio.
531. 39:47By the way, if you have a question folks, the number
532. 39:49triple eight, five, eight, nine, eight, eight, 40.
533. 39:53Thank you for holding.
534. 39:54Welcome, Tim from Ohio.
535. 39:57I appreciate you taking my call.
536. 40:00Before I get to my question, Alex, one thing I think you ought
537. 40:02to explain to people is when God makes a covenant with the
538. 40:06people, what exactly does that mean?
539. 40:08I covered that with some of my students a couple of weeks ago
540. 40:11because I think that's critical in understanding this.
541. 40:14But what I've my original question is, compare this presidential administration support of
542. 40:20Israel versus the previous administration support of Israel.
543. 40:23Very good.
544. 40:25Well yeah, a covenant, the word, fascinating word folks, it means to make a cut, to cut
545. 40:33a cut.
546. 40:34And you say, what does that mean?
547. 40:35You remember when God made the covenant with Abraham and Brian, you were mentioning that,
548. 40:40I'm going to give you land, I'm going to give you descendants, I'll send them a
549. 40:44Messiah." So we often talk about soil, seed, and
550. 40:47Savior. Well, to ratify the covenant, they cut,
551. 40:52they sacrifice some animals, and they passed between the pieces. And essentially,
552. 40:57folks, a covenant, it's meaning, may that be what happens to me if I bail out on my
553. 41:04side of the contract? And at the wedding altar, every one of us that's ever been
554. 41:09married, we say, till death do us part. Marriage is covenant. So, Brian, to Tim's question, isn't
555. 41:16it true that of course God is not going to betray His covenant promises? Agree?
556. 41:24Absolutely. He makes a covenant, a promise. Like I said earlier, it's not just for a season,
557. 41:30it's eternal, it's everlasting. And so, there are so many scriptures that even back that up.
558. 41:37So yes, and I guess the answer that the other question that Tim had was you know to compare
559. 41:45President Trump's administration with the Biden administration it is kind of like night and day
560. 41:50We're already seeing a lot of changes since he took office and I don't think he's been in office not even quite a hundred days yet and
561. 41:59But anyway, he
562. 42:01days. 57. So, you know, we see what he did with the Abraham accords and see how he is
563. 42:07a true friend of Israel. He's standing with Israel and then you see what happened with
564. 42:12the Biden administration. Now, did they help Israel, the Biden administration help Israel
565. 42:17during the war? Yes, they did, but they also gave a lot more to Israel's enemies. That's
566. 42:21not what a friend does. Yeah, we forget that, you know, so, but you know, the other thing
567. 42:29that we saw on February 4th when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu came to the White House.
568. 42:36We saw how both of these leaders, they love each other and President Trump truly stands
569. 42:42with Israel.
570. 42:43But President Trump did say something that I don't know if it caught your attention and
571. 42:47that is that he said the United States is going to control and own Gaza.
572. 42:53Now that's not our position and it's not our land to own or take at all.
573. 42:59of all, it's God's land. You know, and he gave it to as a deed as Michelle Bachmann says in our film,
574. 43:05and he gave it to the Jewish people. Joel 3 2 is abundantly clear about not dividing his land. And so
575. 43:14I love that we support and defend Israel. And but we have no right to be taking over or controlling,
576. 43:22we're saying that we're going to own it. You know, a lot of people say that President Trump just throws
577. 43:27these things out there to get you to come to the table and that's probably true. I mean,
578. 43:31we kind of seen his tactics, but I mean, he does love Israel, but my caution and concern
579. 43:37is I pray that we don't follow through on that, that we're going to own the land because this
580. 43:42is God's land. He says it so many times in Scripture and there's other blessing and there's
581. 43:48questions to that.
582. 43:49I want to get to forgive me. I wish we had so much time, but I want to get to Linda in
583. 43:54Georgia Linda are you there yes I'm here hey thank you for holding welcome yes I
584. 44:01love your show I listen to you every day on wherever you pop up at and hi Brian
585. 44:09I was listening to you too you have so much information I was all thank you
586. 44:14Linda listen to you I was always taught in high school and I'm trying to witness
587. 44:20to my son and my husband also. And it always comes up about that Jewish people were murdered
588. 44:29by Hitler because they stole all the money and kept all the, drained the economy of Germany
589. 44:38because they would just buy and sell for kosher and for their own economy. And that was one
590. 44:47of the reasons why Hitler wanted to get rid of them and I just think that's false. What
591. 44:52do you say?
592. 44:53Do you want to answer Alex or is that question to me?
593. 44:59It's you. I've got some thoughts on that but go ahead.
594. 45:02Well, I was just going to say I agree that it's totally false. I wouldn't say I'm a
595. 45:07subject matter expert in that area but I would say that was I just think he had just Hitler
596. 45:13had this diabolical hatred toward the Jewish people that he was rooted in anti-Semitism.
597. 45:20And we share a little part in our film of how he was influenced.
598. 45:26Do you know the reason or maybe one of the people that was very influential in Hitler's
599. 45:31life of why he wrote Mein Kampf and why he carried out the final solution?
600. 45:37Well, part of it was, and psychologists have written a lot about Hitler, that he was
601. 45:42part Jewish. And, you know, there was kind of almost this self-loathing. I will say this,
602. 45:49two things that hugely influenced that, Al-Filler, one was Charles Darwin. And Charles Darwin's
603. 45:56belief that we evolved and some people were less evolved. And, you know, with Goebbels and
604. 46:03the ministry of propaganda, some of the othering, in other words, to ostracize and marginalize
605. 46:10the Jews in Germany that made these horrible cartoons and there was just this rising, for
606. 46:19one thing, the demonizing of Jews.
607. 46:22But then the rise of this belief that we're the master race and so it kind of was a perfect
608. 46:29storm.
609. 46:30I do not believe that the Jews wrecked the German economy.
610. 46:34I don't think it was that at all.
611. 46:35I think it was ideological and philosophical and frankly I think it was spiritual.
612. 46:39Let me say this, I'm going to throw it back to you, Brian, but in Revelation 12, it says
613. 46:44that Satan hates Israel, the dragon made war on the woman, that's Israel, that delivered
614. 46:53the man-child, Jesus.
615. 46:55I truly think anti-Semitism is a spiritual slash demonic issue, but Brian Sanders, take
616. 47:03it away.
617. 47:04Well, I 100% agree with that. It is very demonic, very diabolical. But to answer her question also,
618. 47:11I would say that one of the reasons beside what you said Pastor Alex, I totally agree with that,
619. 47:17is that Martin Luther, the great reformer, he was very influential in Hitler's reasonings
620. 47:24and why he wrote mine comp, you know, he, you know, some of the things that Martin Luther said in his
621. 47:31latter years in his ideology, he was very anti-Semitic and through that truly influenced Hitler to
622. 47:38write Mynkomphe and we kind of know the rest of the story after that. And so that's something we have to
623. 47:46bring into play also. Yeah, and we actually share that in our film too.
624. 47:51That's good. That's what this is why you need to see the films, why stand with Israel. I want to
625. 47:56I want to try to squeeze in one more question, Deb,
626. 47:58from Mississippi.
627. 47:59Deb, quickly, if you could please.
628. 48:03OK, thank you for taking my call.
629. 48:06Could you explain Ashkenazi?
630. 48:08Do you just think it?
631. 48:10Ashkenazi, yes.
632. 48:12Ashkenazi, you can explain that.
633. 48:14You're probably a little bit more in depth than I am.
634. 48:19I might be getting this wrong.
635. 48:21The Sephardic Jews, I believe, came from Spain.
636. 48:24and Ashkenazis, I believe came from Europe.
637. 48:27Am I right?
638. 48:28I could be wrong.
639. 48:29You probably know a little bit more than I do.
640. 48:30Yeah.
641. 48:31They call it the Dyspora, the dispersion of the Jews.
642. 48:35This was in March of AD 70.
643. 48:40And in the Middle Ages, Jews went to Western Germany.
644. 48:46And then, of course, Central and Eastern Europe.
645. 48:48So the Ashkenazi Jews are the Jews that trace their ancestry
646. 48:53to that and really their descendants of Noah.
647. 48:57Isn't that amazing?
648. 48:58From Shim.
649. 48:59But hey, Brian Sanders, we gotta get you back.
650. 49:01Man, I hope you feel better.
651. 49:03I hope you're looking for being with us.
652. 49:05One more time website.
653. 49:06Thanks for having me on.
654. 49:07Thanks so much for having me on.
655. 49:09Yes, our website is YStandWithIsrael.com.
656. 49:14We have our film on DVD and on the digital download.
657. 49:18We'd love for you to pay it forward to your church,
658. 49:21your friends or family members.
659. 49:23I really hope you see God's heart on display.
660. 49:26Whereas beloved people in land,
661. 49:27he made an everlasting covenant with.
662. 49:30You're gonna see the promise of the God,
663. 49:32you're gonna hear the scriptures,
664. 49:33you're gonna see scriptures on the screen.
665. 49:35And I pray that inspired the church.
666. 49:37God bless you.
667. 49:39Thanks for listening.
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