The Hamilton Corner

December 17, 2024 · 50:00

Guest Host Alex McFarland is joined by AR Senator Jason Rapert, Founder and President of the National Association of Christian Lawmakers

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  1. 0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
  2. 0:03It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
  3. 0:07This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
  4. 0:11It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite.
  5. 0:15Delivery people out of the bondage of mainstream media.
  6. 0:18And the philosophies of this world.
  7. 0:20God has called you and me to be His ambassador.
  8. 0:24Even in this dark moment.
  9. 0:26Let's not miss our moment.
  10. 0:29And now, the Hamilton Corner.
  11. 0:33Well, good evening everybody.
  12. 0:35Alex McFarland here on the American Family Radio Network,
  13. 0:38sitting in for Abe Hamilton.
  14. 0:40Very honored to do so.
  15. 0:41I wish you a Merry Christmas.
  16. 0:43It's coming folks.
  17. 0:44The time is almost upon us.
  18. 0:46And I hope you are all set for a joyous,
  19. 0:50Jesus-filled Christmas season.
  20. 0:52Well, we've got a lot to talk about on the show tonight.
  21. 0:55Got a great show.
  22. 0:55And you know, speaking of Jesus,
  23. 0:57The Bible says of the Messiah who was born in Bethlehem so many years ago,
  24. 1:04wonderful counselor, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.
  25. 1:09But it also says the government will be upon his shoulder. Now, there is coming a day when
  26. 1:14Christ is going to return and like a back up to says that the knowledge of the Lord will cover the
  27. 1:20earth as the waters cover the sea. Now, we're not there yet and there are human governments.
  28. 1:26I happen to think the American government, the Judeo-Christian constitutional government,
  29. 1:33when it is followed, which is sporadic, is the best human government that the world has
  30. 1:41seen yet.
  31. 1:42But the day is coming when the Lord Jesus will rule and reign from Jerusalem.
  32. 1:48God wants you to be ready, and you can be ready through a relationship with Jesus Christ.
  33. 1:53Tonight we're going to talk about American government and culture, imperfect though it
  34. 1:59is, and Jason Rapert, his website is jasonrapert.com and christianlawmakers.com.
  35. 2:08God is using Jason Rapert.
  36. 2:10He's an ordained minister.
  37. 2:14He's a governmental leader.
  38. 2:16And God is using him in a great way to help call our nation back to truth and the rule of
  39. 2:22law that we very often forget. He is the founder and president of the National Association
  40. 2:27of Christian Lawmakers, Holy Ghost Ministries, the American History and Heritage Foundation,
  41. 2:34and Providence Financial Group. And he leads in these areas, and he's a great influencer.
  42. 2:40We've been on the radio together before. And Walker Wildman of AFR is on his board and also
  43. 2:48Bishop E.W. Jackson, Bill Federer, my close friend Bill Federer, and also Andrew Womack,
  44. 2:55who is just a very close colleague and friend of mine.
  45. 2:59We move in a lot of the same circles.
  46. 3:01Jason is just a great resource, a lot of knowledge and wisdom there.
  47. 3:06He's with us tonight.
  48. 3:09A lot of things I want to ask him.
  49. 3:10Jason, thank you for being with us tonight on AFR.
  50. 3:14First of all, thank you for your stand for God in country.
  51. 3:18Well, it's so good to be with you, Alex, and you're right.
  52. 3:23The Lord has knitted us together with a lot of the same people through our lives.
  53. 3:27And one of the first places you may have even forgotten is Alex's years ago, you came to
  54. 3:33Arkansas to speak at a pregnancy resource center for Melinda Chishol up in Central Arkansas.
  55. 3:42And that I think was shortly after I had passed the heartbeat bill in Arkansas.
  56. 3:47I remember I got to know you and really love getting to do that.
  57. 3:52Thank you for all that you've continued to do to impact this country for the Lord.
  58. 3:57Well and thank you for the heartbeat bill and yes I do remember that now.
  59. 4:03Do you know what since then God has allowed me to speak at many many fundraisers for pro
  60. 4:09life and pregnancy care centers and that's right. That is the first time you and I met
  61. 4:15and I remembered then how I was so honored to meet you. And let me ask this because I
  62. 4:21always love to hear people's journey. How did God impress on you to be there at the forefront
  63. 4:28of defending life and liberty? And you know, it's not always easy and we could probably
  64. 4:35share some stories and compare battle scars, but how did God lead you to the work and the
  65. 4:42journey that you've been on?
  66. 4:45Well, that is a fantastic question.
  67. 4:49Let me just kind of bring that there's probably people listening to this program tonight and
  68. 4:55they are thinking, Lord, what can I do and how do you want me to be involved?
  69. 4:59So let me kind of give a little higher thumbnail sketch of this, Alex, because it might minister
  70. 5:05to somebody in that regard because there are many people across this country that I believe
  71. 5:11God is ordained to fulfill certain duties and functions that they have yet to step into.
  72. 5:18And maybe by this question, they will begin to think about what God might want them to do
  73. 5:25personally. But as far as my involvement in the political arena, I actually was raising my family,
  74. 5:33running our business. I had actually been in the financial services industry in addition to our
  75. 5:40ministry work. So I'm an ordained minister, led mission teams into Ghana, West Africa. In fact,
  76. 5:46that was very, very deeply involved in our African ministry work when the Lord had me to pivot and
  77. 5:54to get involved in the political arena. In fact, the last time I was in Ghana, West Africa, Alex,
  78. 6:00I was able to baptize 70 Muslims into the Lord Jesus Christ in one service that we had,
  79. 6:06which is something I'll never forget. Because that is truly a big decision for someone in Africa,
  80. 6:15because a lot of times their family will shun them and they can no longer be a part of their family
  81. 6:20after they've made that profession. And so I was deep into ministry fulfilling what the Lord wanted us
  82. 6:26to do through Holy Ghost Ministries, which we still operate 20 years. But in 2010, in
  83. 6:332009 leading up to the beginning of that year, God began to really deal with me. The people
  84. 6:40began asking me, Jason, would you consider running for office? And I, just like a lot
  85. 6:45of people out there, would say, you know, I'm going to support other good people, and
  86. 6:49as long as they're doing great, I'm going to do that. Well, it got more intense. And
  87. 6:55So I literally prayed into this very sincerely,
  88. 7:00and I felt God answered my prayer this way.
  89. 7:03Jason, why are you not sacrificing to serve at home
  90. 7:10at the same level that you've been sacrificing
  91. 7:12to serve overseas now that your country is in trouble?
  92. 7:17And so Alex, when I heard that very clear answer
  93. 7:20to my prayer, I resigned from the financial services firm
  94. 7:25I was working for.
  95. 7:27We were managing $165 million in assets working for other people.
  96. 7:33I resigned, walked away from that with the shoes on my feet, the shirt on my back.
  97. 7:37I opened up what you now know is Providence Financial so I could take care of my family.
  98. 7:42I filed to run for the Arkansas State Senate in a state that had been dominated by Democrats
  99. 7:48for 138 years.
  100. 7:52I ran and became the very first Republican elected to my Senate District at that time
  101. 7:56since the Civil War in 2010.
  102. 8:00Amen.
  103. 8:01Now, we were still in the minority.
  104. 8:03And so for two years, I found out what it's like to be the minority political party.
  105. 8:11And literally we were just intimidated and they tried to keep their thumb on us every
  106. 8:16which way you could turn.
  107. 8:18And so I ran the heartbeat bill in 2011 right after I got elected.
  108. 8:24Guess what?
  109. 8:25They killed that bill and committee.
  110. 8:26It never would get out of committee.
  111. 8:28But by God's.
  112. 8:29That's how they do in 20.
  113. 8:30Yeah.
  114. 8:31And so by God's grace in 2012, the Arkansas voters elected the first Republican legislative
  115. 8:40majority since literally the end of Reconstruction had been 138 years.
  116. 8:46So immediately after that, I ran what we now know as the heartbeat bill.
  117. 8:53And on March the 6th of 2013, after having passed that bill and it got vetoed by then
  118. 8:59Democrat Governor Mike B.B., not to be confused with Republican Governor Mike Huckabee, who's
  119. 9:05on our board by the way, Mike B.B. vetoed that bill.
  120. 9:10So I had to go in and override a veto.
  121. 9:14And literally on March the 6th, 2013,
  122. 9:17we passed what they said at that time
  123. 9:20was the strongest pro-life bill to be passed into law.
  124. 9:23Spence, Roe v. Wade.
  125. 9:25And so when answered your question,
  126. 9:29I was a person of faith.
  127. 9:31I believe that God is the giver of life.
  128. 9:34I know that in the Declaration of Independence,
  129. 9:37our founding fathers said we are endowed by our creator.
  130. 9:41with certain unalienable rights. And the first one is life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
  131. 9:48And so I knew that I needed to stand up for God's word. You know, Alex, it says in Proverbs
  132. 9:55chapter 6, 16 through 19, there are six things that God actually hates, Yay, seven are an abomination.
  133. 10:03And one of those things are hands that shed innocent blood.
  134. 10:09And so I knew that as a person of faith,
  135. 10:12as a Christian, serving in elected office,
  136. 10:14I had no choice but to stand up for the sanctity
  137. 10:19of human life.
  138. 10:20And so I simply ran that bill and I will tell you
  139. 10:23as I take a break here and pause for a moment
  140. 10:27for you to ask another question.
  141. 10:29But when I ran that, that's when the left unleashed.
  142. 10:34And to be honest with you, the old phrase,
  143. 10:36they just unleashed all of hell upon me.
  144. 10:40They've literally had threats to rape my daughters,
  145. 10:43rape my wife, burn my house.
  146. 10:46One person that even said they were gonna come
  147. 10:48and consume me alive in front of my family
  148. 10:51through that ordeal.
  149. 10:52In the state police literally, saying,
  150. 10:55Jason, you need to have your family leave the state
  151. 10:57until we get through these credible death threat investigations,
  152. 11:00because there were so many that came against me.
  153. 11:03That Rachel Maddow, Alex, and Ron,
  154. 11:06a hit piece on me and that at least another whole load
  155. 11:09of terrible things.
  156. 11:10And so out of that, I turned around and I said,
  157. 11:14where are all of our people?
  158. 11:17Because there's a lot of people say they'll be praying for you.
  159. 11:21But when the real trouble comes and the first flying,
  160. 11:26as they say in the South.
  161. 11:27I looked around and noticed there was a lot of people missing.
  162. 11:33They said they were praying for us,
  163. 11:34but when the spotlight's on you
  164. 11:36and they're running down your family
  165. 11:38and they're running down your name
  166. 11:39and the public venues, it was like, where are these people?
  167. 11:45So I began asking the question, Alex.
  168. 11:47I said, why do we not have
  169. 11:49a national association of Christian lawmakers?
  170. 11:52And as I would ask that question, people began saying,
  171. 11:55I don't know why the world we've ever done that.
  172. 11:57That's so strange.
  173. 11:59So Governor Mike Huckabee met with me,
  174. 12:01Tony Perkins, the Family Research Council,
  175. 12:03Bob McEwen, that you know, Congressman Cune.
  176. 12:05Oh, I know Bob McEwen.
  177. 12:08Yeah, and they said, Jason, you need to go ahead and do this.
  178. 12:11In fact, Tony Perkins interviewed me in 2018,
  179. 12:14and he said, this is an entity whose time has come.
  180. 12:18And so we formed the entity in 2019,
  181. 12:22and in 2020, in August,
  182. 12:24The state of Florida, because it's the only state that had the courage to let us meet in person,
  183. 12:29we met in person and formed what they say is the first formally organized National Association
  184. 12:37of Christian All-Makers in the history of the country.
  185. 12:40We now have members and supporters in all 50 states.
  186. 12:43We have local elected officials that serve on school boards, city councils, county governments,
  187. 12:50State Senators, State Representatives, and now we have congressional members.
  188. 12:54So the vision has been hit and just literally a little over 48 months, we now have a very
  189. 13:02strong foundation of Christians that serve an elected office.
  190. 13:07And they come together in two major national meetings each year, a national policy conference
  191. 13:12that will occur June 5th through the 7th at Liberty University.
  192. 13:17will be our night in-person national meetings since we formed and we just finished our last
  193. 13:23annual meeting this past weekend in Scottsdale, Arizona where Charlie Kirk came and spoke personally.
  194. 13:29Oh yeah.
  195. 13:30He received the American Patriot Award for Christian Honor and Courage.
  196. 13:34Dr. George Barna was given a lifetime leadership award and spoke to us
  197. 13:39personally at our meeting. Bill Federer was awarded the lifetime leadership award himself
  198. 13:43and he's very worthy of that.
  199. 13:45And then Jack Phillips, the Masterpiece Kate Sharp Baker.
  200. 13:49I know everyone of these guys.
  201. 13:51And he allowed us to love on him to hear his testimony.
  202. 13:57And I'm so proud of what these members have done.
  203. 14:02So Alex, I now need to stop,
  204. 14:04but as you can tell, there's a lot to say
  205. 14:07about what God has done with this group of men and women.
  206. 14:12And one of the things that my cook be said,
  207. 14:14and we're so proud that he's been nominated
  208. 14:16to be ambassador of Israel because our group
  209. 14:19has the only standing committee on America,
  210. 14:22Israel relations of any of the
  211. 14:24paralytic legislative groups in the country.
  212. 14:26But my cook be said, we want those Christians
  213. 14:29in elected office to know they are not alone.
  214. 14:34Yeah, hold that thought, Jason, forgive me.
  215. 14:36We've got a break.
  216. 14:37Hold that thought.
  217. 14:37We're gonna come back.
  218. 14:38Alex McFarlane here along with Jason Rayford.
  219. 14:41So much good news, so much influence.
  220. 14:44God is working through him and others to save the country.
  221. 14:47We've got a brief break.
  222. 14:48We'll continue on the American Family Radio Network after this.
  223. 14:51Don't go away.
  224. 15:00A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker.
  225. 15:03Psalm 118 verse 105 tells us your word is a lamp to my feet
  226. 15:07and a light to my path.
  227. 15:09In all of life, one of the single most fruitful habits
  228. 15:12is that of reading God's word every single day.
  229. 15:15And I like to encourage believers to set a goal
  230. 15:17reading at least three chapters in your Bible every day. It might be three
  231. 15:22different chapters it might be the same chapter three times over but spending
  232. 15:26time in God's Word will bless your life in ways you don't fully comprehend. God's
  233. 15:30Word ministers to your mind, body and spirit in a way that no one else or
  234. 15:34nothing else can and remember the Word of God is pregnant with the ability to
  235. 15:38bless you. It's full of light full of grace full of peace, power and joy. I would
  236. 15:44challenge and encourage you to start the habit of reading three chapters a day
  237. 15:47Today and also parents, I would encourage you to start the habit of having your children, each of them to read three chapters in their Bible every day as well.
  238. 15:55It's a habit that will bless your whole family.
  239. 15:58Shiting light into the darkness, this is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
  240. 16:10You know, I've heard people say to me over the years when we talk about the country and restoring America and revival
  241. 16:20and people said, well, you know, I'm just one person.
  242. 16:23What can one person do?
  243. 16:25Well, if you've ever asked yourself the question,
  244. 16:27what can one person do?
  245. 16:29Look at the life of Jason Rapert because this guy
  246. 16:34is a one man, just juggernaut of godliness
  247. 16:39and patriotism and the Lord is using him
  248. 16:42in so many great ways.
  249. 16:43His website, JasonRapert.com.
  250. 16:46And then of course, the National Association
  251. 16:49Christian lawmakers. And before the break, brother, I was just sitting here in my heart,
  252. 16:54just praising God for your obedience. So many years ago, and then the heartbeat bill, lives
  253. 17:02being saved, other people being emboldened. And, you know, many of the names that we throw
  254. 17:07around, folks, you've got to understand, when we talk about a Bill Federer, William J. Federer,
  255. 17:13just along with people like David Barton, and of course Governor Huckabee, Mike Huckabee,
  256. 17:18and so many other names. And I'm going to throw a few names out there, you know, Tony Perkins and
  257. 17:25of course, George Barna that you've given an award to. You know, I've read after these people for years,
  258. 17:34read their work, known them for many years. And Jason, there is a godly and growing wave of people
  259. 17:46that are committed to Christ, committed to this country, very astute, very wise, led by the Holy Spirit
  260. 17:54of God. There's a building army of patriots and Christians like yourself that God is using,
  261. 18:03and I think there are people listening right now that God wants to conscript into that army
  262. 18:08of leaders for God and country. It is exciting, isn't it, Jason?
  263. 18:11It is exciting and Alex is just so much to talk about that I you know you mentioned that
  264. 18:20some of the names you've thrown out and I would encourage people you've been kind enough
  265. 18:24to mention I've got a little splash page that people are looking for my name but hopefully
  266. 18:29they will take that splash page to go off into the other entities really that are the center
  267. 18:35of my life which is like ChristianLomakers.com that's where they really get a feel for what
  268. 18:40the innacials due in Alex. But I was thinking of the, as you're stating the, stating this
  269. 18:46segment about what can someone do and getting involved in this growing army, I want to share
  270. 18:54one scripture with you. And it's out of Jeremiah chapter 18. It says there in verse 5, then the
  271. 19:02word of the Lord came to be saying, Oh, house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter says
  272. 19:08the Lord. Behold, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel.
  273. 19:15Now, Alex, I think of America when I read this today. And it says in verse seven,
  274. 19:21that what instant I shall speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom to pluck up
  275. 19:27and to pull down and to destroy it? If that nation against whom I pronounced
  276. 19:34turned from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.
  277. 19:39And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom to build and to
  278. 19:47planet, if it do evil in my sight that it will not obey not my voice, then I will repent of the
  279. 19:56good wherewith I said I would benefit them. I shared that Alex so often people quote first
  280. 20:03Chronicles 714. Sure. And I love that. We know it, but it's got to where it's almost become
  281. 20:11too quoted, right? People quote it, but they don't stop to think about it. What I love is that
  282. 20:16Jeremiah 18 is an echo, and here's the thing. In the South, so many people say, well, they get
  283. 20:24to the end of a conversation, Alex. And if they hadn't quite got it all figured out, they say,
  284. 20:29well, you know, God is in control.
  285. 20:32Yes.
  286. 20:33And they just stop.
  287. 20:35Okay.
  288. 20:36And they make you think that whatever bad's going on, well, you know, God's
  289. 20:40in control. Well, God's reminding you in Jeremiah that it is our decision.
  290. 20:48What he ultimately decides to do oftentimes.
  291. 20:52Yeah, because he said, if you keep doing evil and keep doing these things,
  292. 20:56you're going to get the judgment that I've decided to send your way.
  293. 20:59But you know what if you decided to stop that I might pull back. I might change
  294. 21:06Well, yeah, I'm the wall is in our court. Yeah
  295. 21:09Forgive me for your rutton Jason, but I mean I really think just to with resignation say well
  296. 21:17Gods in control. I've heard Christians. They'll say well, you know
  297. 21:21It is what it is and whatever will be will be that that's really a cop-out
  298. 21:27Honestly, folks, because yes, God is sovereignly in control. It's His universe. And I assure
  299. 21:33you, King Jesus is ultimately sovereignly in control. But we're in a time of history,
  300. 21:41folks, where the Spirit of God has fallen, the church has been birthed. And just like God
  301. 21:49said to Israel, I sat before you good and evil. I mean, make your choice. And this scripture you
  302. 21:55You gave Jeremiah 18, seven through 10.
  303. 22:00I'm reading it even as you speak, Brother Jason,
  304. 22:03and it is so powerful.
  305. 22:05You know, if a nation will turn,
  306. 22:08then judgment and destruction will be withheld.
  307. 22:11But if a nation will not listen,
  308. 22:14is bent on doing evil, verse 10 of Jeremiah 18, God says,
  309. 22:18look, I'll repent of the good that I was gonna do.
  310. 22:22So, so much the ball is in our court.
  311. 22:26Now I happen to believe on November 5th, 2024.
  312. 22:31So many people were praying,
  313. 22:33so many people were willing to get out and vote.
  314. 22:36And Jason, back in 2015,
  315. 22:39I actually met Donald Trump,
  316. 22:42just it was kind of a chance meeting in Washington.
  317. 22:47And I was myself, Robert Jeffers,
  318. 22:50Jerry Falwell Jr. at that time, we were very pro-Trump in late 2015, early 2016, and I'll
  319. 22:58tell you back in the day, it really cost me a lot of speaking engagements.
  320. 23:04Here's the thing, I think in 2024, I had a lot of pastor friends that for the first time,
  321. 23:10they were getting out of the comfort zone and they were telling people to go vote, they
  322. 23:16were supporting Donald Trump and it might have been scary for some of those timid souls,
  323. 23:22but it made a difference.
  324. 23:25I really think that we saw the church and the prayers of millions of patriotic people,
  325. 23:33it made a difference, didn't it?
  326. 23:36Oh, it did.
  327. 23:38And I want to, before I say anything more, I want to mention that we just heard updated
  328. 23:45information from Dr. George Barna during our conference. And he will state very clearly that
  329. 23:52Christians made the difference in this vote in 2014. And now at the same time, he's also going to
  330. 24:01tell you Christian voters still are horribly not involved because we got millions of Christians
  331. 24:10still sitting on the sidelines. But of those that did decide to get active this time, they
  332. 24:16absolutely did make a difference in electing President Donald Trump. And if President Trump
  333. 24:22is listening tonight or any of his new cabinet, I need you to understand you need to sit down
  334. 24:29and break bread with your Christian brothers in the conservative movement.
  335. 24:33I mean cause we did make the difference and here's the other thing that's coming off
  336. 24:38You know ever since we started the nacl we have been daily. I've got we've got a program called save the nation with Jason
  337. 24:46Raperton and airs on another radio network in fact down and I'm talking about it walkers talk to me
  338. 24:51We may be one of these days you all get to hear us at some point
  339. 24:55but yeah
  340. 24:56We're talking about that because
  341. 24:58In fact, I'd forgotten until I started this session with you that we even had that conversation.
  342. 25:04But on that, every day, we encourage people to get out and get engaged according to Genesis
  343. 25:10126 through 28.
  344. 25:12God's will was originally, he said, man, you go take authority over the fish and the sea,
  345. 25:19the birds in the air, everything that creeps on the earth, take dominion and authority.
  346. 25:24the church has given up our party in so many areas including government
  347. 25:29including the media
  348. 25:31including hollywood etcetera we haven't actually
  349. 25:35and you know been salt and light like we should
  350. 25:38it is i thought it is covered
  351. 25:42uh... forgive me but you know nacl now that's an acronym for national
  352. 25:47association christian lawmakers right
  353. 25:50it is and i know what you're about to say
  354. 25:53uh... well i'm just sitting here and i'm trying to remember my days high school
  355. 25:57science
  356. 25:58sodium or a that salt isn't it
  357. 26:02it's the scientific symbol of salt is a god good alex
  358. 26:06and then because that was that intentional
  359. 26:09nac l that's a if you folks remember your study the periodic table that's salt
  360. 26:16what was that intentional
  361. 26:19intentionally was done
  362. 26:21But I like to think that God gave us something just wonderful in that blessing that it was
  363. 26:26the scientific symbol of salt.
  364. 26:28And so yes, and what we've had happen is a lot of people, Alex, have actually, when they
  365. 26:34might not even be engaged much with church, that catches their attention and allows us
  366. 26:40to make the point which we've just made that we're to be salt and we are to be light in
  367. 26:46our country.
  368. 26:47And to finish the thought of what I was making the point about regarding Donald Trump and
  369. 26:52the Christian voters, what I want the Trump administration, and for that matter, the Republican
  370. 26:59party in the United States to remember, there are tens of millions of Christian voters that
  371. 27:06have not yet engaged politically.
  372. 27:10And I believe that's going to change, Alex.
  373. 27:14We are working, putting together, knitting together people that are already serving an
  374. 27:18office that are Christians, but we see Christian organizations and entities now coming because
  375. 27:25they want to engage with the people that are part of the NACL network.
  376. 27:30We are so happy about that.
  377. 27:32At this latest meeting at Scottsdale, Arizona, we had SBA, Pro Life America.
  378. 27:39We had ADF.
  379. 27:41We had First Liberty.
  380. 27:44that stavers on our board with Liberty Council.
  381. 27:47We've obviously with Walker's involvement,
  382. 27:49as you see what I'm talking about,
  383. 27:51the NACL has become really a platform
  384. 27:55by which all of these groups that have wonderful ministries
  385. 27:58and are doing great things are connecting
  386. 28:00with the actual lawmaker.
  387. 28:02You see, it's one thing to talk about making a change
  388. 28:06and to preach about making a change,
  389. 28:09but when you put that together with people
  390. 28:11that are in the trenches fighting those battles
  391. 28:13standing on the floors of your state houses and your state
  392. 28:16Senate's standing on the floor of Congress.
  393. 28:19Something really awesome begins to happen.
  394. 28:21That's when James, the book of James, comes alive.
  395. 28:24Faith without works aren't dead.
  396. 28:27And friends, what I love about the NACL and about AFA
  397. 28:31and other groups that are out here,
  398. 28:33they don't just talk about it.
  399. 28:35They put their faith into action.
  400. 28:38And that's what we need to say this country in Alex
  401. 28:41is we think about the Christian voter in America going forward.
  402. 28:46If every Christian and every pastor would decide,
  403. 28:50we are going to support only those people
  404. 28:53that uphold biblical values,
  405. 28:56you're gonna change America solidly
  406. 28:59for the next hundred years without question.
  407. 29:02And who knows by that time, maybe Jesus will come back
  408. 29:05and catch us all the way, Alex.
  409. 29:07Amen, even so, come Lord Jesus.
  410. 29:10Hey, I want to throw something out there.
  411. 29:13And by the way, folks, if you're just tuning in,
  412. 29:15Alex McFarland here and my very special guest,
  413. 29:18Jason Raypert, for whom I have such respect,
  414. 29:22I'm going to throw out some dates
  415. 29:24because you and I know this world,
  416. 29:27I mean, humans do what humans do,
  417. 29:31but really spiritual realities are all around us.
  418. 29:36The Bible says Satan stalks about like a roaring lion
  419. 29:40seeking whom he may devour. And I think 2024 was one of the most spiritually charged years.
  420. 29:49And let me say this, in 1973 when Roe v. Wade removed legal protection from the unborn. That
  421. 29:57was a day of spiritual darkness. Let me throw some dates out here and talk to me, Jason,
  422. 30:04you would about what you feel like the spiritual implications were.
  423. 30:08And one of the first dates I would throw out there is July 13, 2024 in a Pennsylvania field,
  424. 30:18Matthew Crooks.
  425. 30:21Because look, Donald Trump in the news, they kept saying, oh, he's an existential threat
  426. 30:25to democracy, from Nancy Pelosi to AOC to Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg on the view,
  427. 30:34Donald Trump was just denigrated and painted as this evil person.
  428. 30:40And Matthew Crooks almost changed the course of world history by taking those words to
  429. 30:50heart.
  430. 30:51Talk to me if you would, Jason, about the spiritual battle that coalesced on a Saturday
  431. 30:59afternoon, July 13, 2024.
  432. 31:02Well, it's interesting that you brought up that date.
  433. 31:07I was in Nashville, Tennessee at a Council for National Policy Meeting.
  434. 31:11I know you know who those folks are.
  435. 31:15I was at CNP.
  436. 31:16I walk and I were about to celebrate our 34th wedding anniversary the next day and my goodness
  437. 31:24When this horrible thing happened and literally I am I will say it. There's so many things to say
  438. 31:32We don't have a lot of time, but I'll say it this way
  439. 31:35We're grateful that God saved Donald Trump's life
  440. 31:39But I believe I believe that we can safely also say that
  441. 31:45By saving his life
  442. 31:47It probably saved the United States of America as we know it.
  443. 31:52We're a very divided country.
  444. 31:55And the Bible says that life and death are in the power of the tongue.
  445. 32:02That's what the Bible says.
  446. 32:04And for years, the Democrat Party in this nation has spoke curses on this country.
  447. 32:12They have denigrated our Founding Fathers.
  448. 32:15They've tried to make them into people to be hated rather than appreciated.
  449. 32:20They have denigrated the US Constitution itself.
  450. 32:24They have torn down the things that we appreciate to the point that they tore
  451. 32:29down statues of our history, Alex.
  452. 32:31Yeah.
  453. 32:32They raided downtown urban centers, burning them, destroying property.
  454. 32:39They attacked people, the anti-Semitism, all of those things.
  455. 32:43And all of that is what's happened.
  456. 32:46Hold that thought.
  457. 32:46I'm so sorry, Jason.
  458. 32:48We've got a break, folks.
  459. 32:49This is the American Family Radio Network
  460. 32:51with our very special guest, Jason Raper.
  461. 32:53We're back after this.
  462. 32:55The Hamilton Quarter podcast and One-Minute Common
  463. 33:07Terrence are available at eFR.net.
  464. 33:10Back to the Hamilton Quarter on American Family Radio.
  465. 33:15Righteousness exalt a nation.
  466. 33:17Sin is a reproach to any people.
  467. 33:20That's Proverbs 1434.
  468. 33:22Hi, Alex McFarland here sitting in for Abe Hamilton
  469. 33:25and our very special guest, Jason Rapert.
  470. 33:27We'll resume in just a minute.
  471. 33:29Before time, Fleet's Way.
  472. 33:30I do want to remind everybody that we have got
  473. 33:32our seven youth biblical worldview camps coming up
  474. 33:37in the summer of 25.
  475. 33:38Now I realize a week away from Christmas,
  476. 33:41probably the last thing you're thinking about
  477. 33:43is the summer of 2025.
  478. 33:45But if you would, I want to give two websites.
  479. 33:48One, my own website, AlexMcFarlane.com.
  480. 33:52My articles, my tour schedule is on there.
  481. 33:54I'll be at the Billy Graham Training Center
  482. 33:56twice next year at the Cove,
  483. 33:59once teaching the book of Job.
  484. 34:02And then once a week with Jay Warner Wallace,
  485. 34:04we'll be doing in August an apologetics week.
  486. 34:09Then I've got our speaker series that we lead next summer
  487. 34:12with Dinesh D'Souza and a number of other great speakers.
  488. 34:16But our summer youth camps, and we have 1,200 teenagers.
  489. 34:20And last summer, we had 168 kids get saved,
  490. 34:23and we'd not only talk to kids about the gospel,
  491. 34:26we talk about America and being a citizen.
  492. 34:29And that website is equipretreat.org.
  493. 34:33We've been doing this for 24 years now,
  494. 34:35and we do apologetics, biblical worldview,
  495. 34:38but just like what Jason Raper and I are talking about,
  496. 34:42citizenship, and let me just say,
  497. 34:44The kids get so excited because young people want,
  498. 34:49they want to know who they are,
  499. 34:50they want to know where they are,
  500. 34:52context, identity, how to make a difference.
  501. 34:55We teach them about Jesus, we teach them about America.
  502. 34:59So check out equipretreat.org.
  503. 35:03Well, I want to get back to our guest and brother Jason,
  504. 35:06I just want to say thank you for all you're doing
  505. 35:07because sitting here, hearing how God is using you
  506. 35:11in such mighty ways, I'm inspired.
  507. 35:14And I was just sitting here in all honesty, no flattery.
  508. 35:18But I was like, man, I want to be more like that guy.
  509. 35:21I want to follow what Jason Raypert is doing.
  510. 35:24And I'm going to just be like Jason Raypert
  511. 35:28because God is doing a great way.
  512. 35:31And so what a joy to have you on the program tonight.
  513. 35:35Hey, before the break, you were talking about,
  514. 35:38I sort of threw it out there about July 13
  515. 35:41when President Trump was almost killed, but he wasn't.
  516. 35:46Hello. Hey, can you hear me? Jason, I don't know.
  517. 35:50Can you hear me, brother? Jason, are you there?
  518. 35:55Are you able to hear me? Well, I'll tell you what.
  519. 36:00Bobby, if you could try to get him back on
  520. 36:05before the break, we were talking about the spiritual overtones
  521. 36:09of July 13th. Last summer, when you saw it, folks,
  522. 36:14candidate Trump, US President number 45, praise God, now to be inaugurated as US President
  523. 36:21number 47. He was almost killed. And the rhetoric that was being spewed forth in the
  524. 36:27news, I mean the left, not only Democrat leaders, but talking heads. They were just
  525. 36:34denigrating Donald Trump. And he was almost killed. It shows like Jason Raper was saying
  526. 36:40that words have meaning. Jason, are you back, brother?
  527. 36:43Yes, it just went away there, but thank you for getting me back on.
  528. 36:48Yeah, thank you very much for holding. Thank you for your patience. Before the break, you
  529. 36:54were talking about what almost went down, and you started a prayer initiative just days
  530. 37:01after Donald Trump was almost shot. Finish your thought, if you were.
  531. 37:06Well, it's exactly right.
  532. 37:10And so I was making the point that literally the division in this country, everyone knows,
  533. 37:15is greater now than it has been since the Civil War against nation.
  534. 37:19And we've seen that.
  535. 37:20And what I was stating is that we have been seeing now for a couple of years culminating
  536. 37:27in literally assassination attempts the spiritual friction culminating in manifesting into the
  537. 37:34physical realm.
  538. 37:36I believe this is true.
  539. 37:37And we've had more than one assassination attempt against Donald Trump as less we forget it.
  540. 37:42Yeah.
  541. 37:43That one is the most poignant one.
  542. 37:45And when that happened, I immediately felt a call to issue a call for prayer and fasting,
  543. 37:55which we initiated on Tuesday following the assassination attempt.
  544. 38:00So every single day since you lie that Tuesday, and I think it was the 16th, or if I've got
  545. 38:07the date right, so Tuesday after the assassination temp, every Tuesday at noon Eastern time,
  546. 38:13we do a live virtual call.
  547. 38:16In fact, people can still join that call by going to ChristianLalemakers.com and we have
  548. 38:21a little link for our weekly prayer call.
  549. 38:24And we decided to just keep it going.
  550. 38:26So we had people from all over the country,
  551. 38:28and Alex, it was lawmakers,
  552. 38:30as well as just individuals,
  553. 38:32people that wanted to take part.
  554. 38:34And a lot of times we'll have a special speaker,
  555. 38:37just like yourself.
  556. 38:38I told you, I'd love you to come on and do that as well.
  557. 38:40And they will kick us off,
  558. 38:42but then we have people pray.
  559. 38:45And we have them just begin to speak their heart
  560. 38:47to out to God about what's going on.
  561. 38:50And so we have continued to keep that going.
  562. 38:53And I will tell you, we need people to continue in this nation.
  563. 38:57You know, we have seen a real turn in the country in which it's a palpable turn in the spirit
  564. 39:05as well because the country through voting for Donald Trump have actually said we are
  565. 39:12done with the craziness and the woke policies that have just been toxic in our nation.
  566. 39:20And so we believe that God is giving us a moment just like Jeremiah chapter 18.
  567. 39:28He is giving us an opportunity to stop what has been a march towards judgment in this country
  568. 39:35because of unrighteousness, the killing of human babies in our nation, and the absolute
  569. 39:42horrible embrace of sodomy and the LGBTQ lifestyle that is against God's word just as much as
  570. 39:50abortion is, and we've got an opportunity to begin to put the country back together.
  571. 39:58And so we invite people to engage in your churches and the other groups you're involved
  572. 40:04in, at greater levels than you ever have.
  573. 40:07But we also invite you to get to know the NACO.
  574. 40:09We'd love for you to engage and begin to pray specifically for your lawmakers and to help
  575. 40:15them as they pass policies.
  576. 40:17I want to say is that we're closing, Alex.
  577. 40:20During this last meeting here,
  578. 40:21we have a lot of model legislation,
  579. 40:2345 different bills that have been passed
  580. 40:27into model form since the NACL started,
  581. 40:31and including, by the way, Life at Conception Act,
  582. 40:34which I helped carry the Arkansas abortion ban trigger bill
  583. 40:38that ended all abortion in our state
  584. 40:40after the Dobbs decision came out that triggered our bill.
  585. 40:44We have got members like Representative Doty Horton
  586. 40:47Louisiana that passed the Ten Commandments poster bill that many of you've heard about,
  587. 40:52the display of those Ten Commandments posters, and Representative Mark Giddley of Alabama helped
  588. 40:58her in passing that as a model at our latest meeting. And so we are disseminating that so that
  589. 41:04legislators can file that same bill all over the United States of America, and they will.
  590. 41:09bill and they also passed the Ten Commandments Monument Act and now that you may remember
  591. 41:16in 2015 I carried a bill called the Arkansas Ten Commandments Monument Act. It became law
  592. 41:23and 24 hours after we put up the Ten Commandments Monument and Arkansas a guy drove across the
  593. 41:28state and found himself destroying that. We raise all the funds again to build it back
  594. 41:35In 2018, the American Atheist, the American Humanist, the Freedom for Religion Foundation,
  595. 41:40the ACLU and the Satanic Temple all sued the state of Arkansas and decided to teach me a
  596. 41:47lesson in doing so.
  597. 41:48We're still in federal court, Alex.
  598. 41:51Can you believe that even with the coach joke, Kennedy case that throughout the limit test,
  599. 41:56that federal judge appointed Barack Hussein Obama and Arkansas still has that case live
  600. 42:02in her court?
  601. 42:04and it's great.
  602. 42:05You will not let it go.
  603. 42:06But I'm telling you what happened is when that lemon test got threw out and the Joe Kennedy
  604. 42:13case that Bremerton School case that was decided in 22, you can now put up 10 commandments monuments,
  605. 42:2010 commandments posters, Nativity scenes, Menoras, you can put them all back up at state capitals,
  606. 42:28city halls, county courthouses, and I'm so proud of our friends at First Liberty,
  607. 42:35and they are really telling people about this in their Restoring Faith in America initiative.
  608. 42:42And so we invite people, engage with the NACL, where you can take ideas that we are seeing past
  609. 42:49and many of our state legislators to protect women's sports, to get the drag queen story hours
  610. 42:56out of our libraries, protect our southern border, election criteria, etc., etc., they're
  611. 43:02working to make sure that our policies in America are something that we could feel proud
  612. 43:08of as it honors God. So, Alex, I know that we've had a great conversation here today. Seems
  613. 43:15like we've just scratched the surface. But thank you for having us on today to talk about the
  614. 43:21and ACL and just know that if we want to save the nation, it's not going to be someone
  615. 43:28else that does it. It needs to be me and you and the people that are listening to this
  616. 43:34call. And I happen to believe just as I shared with all of our members during our meeting
  617. 43:41this weekend in Scottsdale, Arizona. In Luke chapter 10, Jesus is actually speaking there
  618. 43:49and he's basically advising them that they have power,
  619. 43:55that God has given to them to tread upon serpents
  620. 44:00and to go out and to do great things in his name.
  621. 44:03And I believe that in America,
  622. 44:04we've got a lot of people that have been sitting
  623. 44:07on the sidelines and just as he said in chapter 10,
  624. 44:11verse 18, this is what Jesus said,
  625. 44:13I beheld Satan is lightning fall from heaven.
  626. 44:16and behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy.
  627. 44:24And nothing shall by any means hurt you."
  628. 44:28And it says, not withstanding in this rejoice, not that the spiritual subjects are unto you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.
  629. 44:35So, Alex, I'll tell you, all of the things going on in the country, the only way to really save America is to have a real revival in this nation.
  630. 44:44And once that revival takes hold,
  631. 44:46then we'll have more godly people
  632. 44:48that will do more godly things
  633. 44:50and hopefully have a more godly nation.
  634. 44:52And that's really the heart and soul
  635. 44:54of what the NACL stands for.
  636. 44:56So thank you for having me on today, Glove.
  637. 44:57Amen. Well, brother, I appreciate you.
  638. 44:59And listen, consider me as soon as I can email you,
  639. 45:03I'm gonna be the next one joining.
  640. 45:06And I truly mean that.
  641. 45:07I gotta ask you one more question.
  642. 45:09And I want you, and you let it out so.
  643. 45:12I'm sorry, I cannot hear you.
  644. 45:14Okay, I'm sorry, I don't know why,
  645. 45:16I don't know why you're not able to hear me.
  646. 45:19Can you hear me now, Jason?
  647. 45:22Can you hear me now?
  648. 45:25Well, listen, folks, I don't know what the audio issue is,
  649. 45:30but this has just been wonderful, Jason Raypert,
  650. 45:33and I'm going to join the National Association
  651. 45:35of Christian Lawmakers.
  652. 45:36That's just a wonderful group.
  653. 45:38And Walker-Walman is on their board,
  654. 45:40and I'm so glad of that.
  655. 45:42But folks, I want to tell you another spiritually charged day.
  656. 45:46It was October 17 of 2024.
  657. 45:50And Kamala Harris was at a rally.
  658. 45:52And the audio is so clear.
  659. 45:55Later, some of her people tried to backpedal it
  660. 45:57and say she didn't hear this, but no, she did.
  661. 46:00The audio is crystal clear.
  662. 46:02Someone shouts out, Jesus is Lord.
  663. 46:06And then candidate Kamala Harris quickly replied,
  664. 46:11you're at the wrong rally and people applauded.
  665. 46:16So sad.
  666. 46:17Jason, can you hear me now?
  667. 46:18Do you know if you can you hear me?
  668. 46:21Well, I'm just going to wrap it up here.
  669. 46:23Here's my point.
  670. 46:24The Bible says God is not mocked.
  671. 46:27And whatever we say, we will reap.
  672. 46:29And you know what?
  673. 46:30Listen, Lord knows, Lord knows we wish no ill to anyone.
  674. 46:35The Bible says God is long suffering,
  675. 46:37not willing that any should perish.
  676. 46:39And every true Christian wants people saved.
  677. 46:43Those that are engaged in immorality,
  678. 46:46those that have been pro-abortion,
  679. 46:48those that have been for atheism
  680. 46:50and the banning of the Ten Commandments
  681. 46:53and the undermining of our liberties,
  682. 46:55we wish them no ill.
  683. 46:56In fact, we pray for their soul.
  684. 46:57We want them to be saved and know Jesus.
  685. 47:00But at the very same time,
  686. 47:02we are in a fight of light versus dark.
  687. 47:05But here's one third day that I'm going to mention
  688. 47:09that is a spiritually charged day
  689. 47:12and a potentially positive day.
  690. 47:14And that's this day, folks.
  691. 47:17The day that you in your heart would say,
  692. 47:20do you know what?
  693. 47:21I'm going to be brave.
  694. 47:22I'm going to have courage.
  695. 47:23I'm going to speak truth.
  696. 47:25And Lord, if you will cleanse me, fill me, send me, use me.
  697. 47:30I'm going to stand up for what's right.
  698. 47:32I'm not going to just sit by passively and let the darkness sweep our freedoms away.
  699. 47:38I'm not going to do nothing while our kids and grandkids end up living in a Marxist police
  700. 47:45state.
  701. 47:46I'm going to step out of my comfort zone and I will say my prayers and I will influence
  702. 47:51those around me and I'm going to make a difference.
  703. 47:54Folks, that can be you.
  704. 47:55That should be you.
  705. 47:57That must be you.
  706. 47:59This is the day that you take your stand and you'll say,
  707. 48:03for God in country, I'm gonna make a difference.
  708. 48:06You know what?
  709. 48:07God lit a fire in my heart many, many years ago,
  710. 48:10that fire burns to this day.
  711. 48:12And I'm pretty introverted, timid guy,
  712. 48:17but we couldn't stay silent.
  713. 48:19And I pray that the boldness that will change lives,
  714. 48:23God will birth in you this day.
  715. 48:26So, take a stand and know 1 Corinthians 1558,
  716. 48:30your labor in the Lord is not in vain.
  717. 48:33Well, folks, what a great day it's been,
  718. 48:34and I thank Jason Raper for being with us,
  719. 48:37and then we'll be back tomorrow with more on AFR.
  720. 48:41I'd like to take a minute and have a heart to heart with you.
  721. 48:44If you're able, place your hand over your heart.
  722. 48:46Can you feel it?
  723. 48:48My strong heartbeat reminds me that I'm alive.
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  742. 49:50The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American
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