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11. 0:31Good evening, everyone.
12. 0:34Welcome to the Hamilton Corner here on American Family Radio.
13. 0:37I am your host, Abraham Hamilton, the third joined by the corner contingent right across
14. 0:43from me, my man, 100 grand, Mr. Bobby, Rosa.
15. 0:48Maybe trying to recover from the kidney punches I just gave him in the hallway.
16. 0:51Not really.
17. 0:54Just jovial.
18. 0:57And in the screening room, produced extraordinaire often imitated, never duplicated.
19. 1:00Y'all know what it is real J Mac ladies and gentlemen
20. 1:03Better watch him if you come too close to him, you know, you fresher than a new new baby diaper with powder in it
21. 1:09Y'all better watch him now
22. 1:10We're ready to rock and roll with today's edition of the program at this very moment many of you
23. 1:18Look at me. He's like can I get a day where you just leave me alone, please? No
24. 1:27At this very moment many of you
25. 1:30I'm making your transition from your part-time jobs when you generate an income
26. 1:34to your full-time jobs where you cultivate an outcome.
27. 1:38I'll leave you alone tomorrow.
28. 1:41He said, oh, no, no, keep it coming.
29. 1:43Oh, you enjoyed this.
30. 1:49Full-time jobs, ladies and gentlemen, is where you and I cultivate outcomes.
31. 1:54Outcome cultivation is what we must be about.
32. 1:56That outcome cultivation must flow from what we enjoy in pursuing the Lord together.
33. 2:04And I am by no means unaware of the fact that I know some of you who are tuning in right now,
34. 2:09you are not yet members of our eternal family, but I'll just say, keep listening.
35. 2:13Keep listening. And as the Lord continues to draw you,
36. 2:16your desire to tune into this program, particularly, particularly when you know
37. 2:21we're going to begin the program with the scripture. That is evidence of the Spirit of God at work.
38. 2:28And I want to encourage you to refuse to harden your heart as the Lord draws you.
39. 2:32You see the craziness is happening around us. I mean, just today, I'm going to get into this right
40. 2:37now, but you have this this doctor who is the head of probably the most pre most prominent
41. 2:45gender clinic in America. This woman by the name of Dr. Johanna Olson Kennedy. She runs a
42. 2:52gender clinic in California. Well, the American taxpayers provided the National Institutes
43. 2:59of Health with a nearly $10 million grant, $9.7 million. What was this grant given for?
44. 3:06Well, Dr. Olson Kennedy, being the leading gender clinician in the nation, wanted to prove
45. 3:14this was her hypothesis.
46. 3:15You might even call it a hypo thesis.
47. 3:19Her hypo thesis was that providing puberty blockers to dysphoric children will help them
48. 3:24with their mental health problems, especially those children who came who were suicidal and
49. 3:29had suicidal ideation to think to that nature, well guess what?
50. 3:34And this study is old.
51. 3:35Look at Bobby.
52. 3:36He's mad already.
53. 3:37right in front of me, look at him.
54. 3:39The study was conducted from 2015 to 2017,
55. 3:44oversaw by Dr. Johanna Olson Kennedy.
56. 3:47You wanna know what the results of the study were?
57. 3:49None of the children were helped by puberty blockers.
58. 3:52Now, being the people who were committed to science as they are,
59. 3:55what did you think they would do with the results of that study?
60. 3:57Right, didn't the taxpayer provide that money?
61. 4:00Taxpayers provide that money so that the study would be published?
62. 4:03Nay says Dr. Johanna Olson Kennedy.
63. 4:05nay. She has refused to date to publish the study because it didn't come out with the results that
64. 4:13she wanted. Now I thought we were committed to science. There were her peers who were researchers
65. 4:18on the study who have criticized her refusal to publish the data. Nevertheless, she has refused
66. 4:24to publish the data. Now don't you think the American people are owed an explanation and the results
67. 4:29of the study says we paid for it? And again, I thought these people were committed to science.
68. 4:37When asked why she wouldn't publish the study, she said, oh, I didn't want people to weaponize
69. 4:42the study against us, and I didn't want the study used in court.
70. 4:46Because you see, Dr. Olson Kennedy has proceeded over some of the most prominent mutilation
71. 4:54and chemical castration that have transpired in the country, and she don't want to be sued.
72. 4:58But I thought we were committed to science, not least to say, places like Finland and
73. 5:06in the UK and other European nations have already prohibited the application of the chemical
74. 5:12castration and the general mutilation via surgery of children in other countries. Here we have
75. 5:18evidence that the stuff don't work yet. The good doctor, guess it's not as committed to
76. 5:25science as she would have us believe. God, I love that, don't you? Let us go to the word
77. 5:30God to the word of God. I mean, guys, this is outrageous because the results were not what
78. 5:39she wanted. So she's just not going to publish the data yet. They want to tell you, we follow
79. 5:47the science. Sure. I need the word of God. Joshua chapter four. Joshua chapter four versus one
80. 5:56through seven. The context here is Joshua's leading the second generation of wilderness
81. 6:02Israelites to enter of first its first entrance into the promised land. In chapter 3, you have
82. 6:11the instructions from Yahweh that the priest would enter the Jordan River first and then they would
83. 6:17stay in there as the water rolled, the waters rolled back and the whole nation of Israel crosses
84. 6:23over into the promised land from Jordan over into what we know to be Israel and then the as soon as
85. 6:32As they cross over, these are the instructions that God gave to Joshua.
86. 6:38Joshua 4 verses 1 through 7, this is what the word of God says.
87. 6:42When all the nation had finished passing over the Jordan, the Lord said to Joshua, I want you
88. 6:47to note Lord, there is in all caps, the Lord said to Joshua, take 12 men from the people.
89. 6:54Each, I'm sorry, from each tribe, a man and command them saying, take 12 stones from here
90. 7:01out of the midst of the Jordan from the very place where the priests
91. 7:05feet stood firmly and bring them over with you and lay them down in the
92. 7:10place where you lodge tonight.
93. 7:13Then Joshua called the twelve men from the people of Israel, whom he had
94. 7:17appointed a man from each tribe and Joshua said to them, pass on before the
95. 7:22ark of the Lord your God into the midst of the Jordan and take up each of
96. 7:26you a stone upon his shoulder.
97. 7:28According to the number of the tribes of the people of Israel, that this may be a sign among you,
98. 7:34when your children ask in time to come, what do these stones mean to you?
99. 7:40Then you shall tell them that the waters of the Jordan were cut off before the Ark of the Covenant of the Lord.
100. 7:47When it passed over the Jordan, the waters of the Jordan were cut off.
101. 7:50So these stones shall be to the people of Israel, a memorial forever.
102. 7:57Oh God, thank you for your work.
103. 8:01a memorial forever.
104. 8:06The first thing that God required of his people,
105. 8:08when they crossed over into the Promised Land, finally,
106. 8:11under Joshua's leadership.
107. 8:13So I want you to note in verse one,
108. 8:14whose idea was it for a memorial to be erected right then?
109. 8:18The scripture tells us very plainly.
110. 8:20The Lord said to Joshua,
111. 8:24take 12 men from the people, a man from each tribe,
112. 8:26simply put, the memorial construction was God's idea.
113. 8:31It wasn't Joshua's idea.
114. 8:35It's something that we should pause and reflect upon and consider.
115. 8:39The memorial construction was God's idea.
116. 8:45This wasn't on Joshua's mind at the moment.
117. 8:47This wasn't on any of the leaders of the various tribes' minds at the moment.
118. 8:51This was something God instructed, which should provoke you and me to begin to ask,
119. 8:55well, why would the Lord do that?
120. 8:57Among all the other things that were going on at the moment,
121. 9:01and remember that they utilized one crossing over the Jordan just so they could, you know,
122. 9:04just so they can, you know, they can go get some cum quats
123. 9:10and some plums and make pumpernickel bread.
124. 9:14They had business to take care of when they crossed
125. 9:16over the Jordan River.
126. 9:18Yet in the middle of all of that, with all of that,
127. 9:21before them, God pumps the brakes, say,
128. 9:23hold up Joshua, get 12 men, instruct each of them
129. 9:28to carry a stone, get a stone to carry on the shoulder,
130. 9:30just give you an idea of the size of the stone.
131. 9:33Cause there was a little rock you wouldn't need
132. 9:34to carry on your shoulder.
133. 9:35The Lord instructed them to construct a memorial as a matter of first importance when they crossed over.
134. 9:45And then with the instruction, God explains in the middle of verse 6, when your children ask in time,
135. 9:57when your children ask in time to come, what do these stones mean?
136. 10:03One of the undeniable, uncontrovertible realities of humanity is that human beings have the tendency
137. 10:16to drift and to forget.
138. 10:20God knows that human beings have the tendency to drift and to forget.
139. 10:25One of the things that Lord sought to employ to aid the Israelites and to fortify them
140. 10:31against drifting and against forgetting was the memorial.
141. 10:40You see all throughout the scripture over and over and over again, the Lord instructs, remember,
142. 10:45remember, remember, remember.
143. 10:49Here one of the first things that God has on his mind for Joshua to understand is that when
144. 10:53they're crossing the Jordan, God is already thinking about their children and the generations
145. 10:58that are coming behind them.
146. 11:02This what you are experiencing today, Joshua, is something that your progeny must understand
147. 11:10forever.
148. 11:11Why am I bringing that up?
149. 11:17We have experienced and we are experiencing in our day efforts, and I'm going to be very
150. 11:24specific in candid here, efforts to mar to cover over, to rewrite and to flat out lie about
151. 11:34our nation's history, efforts to conceal divine providence, evidence in our national establishment.
152. 11:48The goal for God, I won't say the goal for God, what God was attempting to point Joshua to,
153. 11:54is the very same thing that should be enduring in our day.
154. 12:00God wanted the memorial constructed for the progeny of Israel so that the progeny of Israel
155. 12:05would remain in a position of awe and reverence for the God who delivered them safely into
156. 12:10the Promised Land.
157. 12:13See one of the major ways that we avoid creating idols out of vessels that God operates in and
158. 12:20through in order to fulfill his purposes is that we don't make the major focus the person
159. 12:25who is the vessel.
160. 12:26Our major focus is the orchestrator.
161. 12:30Our God is a master at using crickets sticks to paint straight lines.
162. 12:34We have no need to deify people in order to behold our God at work in the founding of our
163. 12:39nation, but the consistent efforts to conceal the Lord's evidence.
164. 12:45Like a great example is Harvard University and many people at Harvard today may not even
165. 12:50want you to know that Harvard was established and all of the Ivy League schools that were established,
166. 12:54they were established at theological institutions of learning originally.
167. 13:01They're even engravings on the buildings at Harvard.
168. 13:04They let, they let, how you like this irony, they let Ivy overgrow the engraved buildings
169. 13:10so that the people, the students, the staff, the administrators, they don't recognize, wait
170. 13:14a minute, this was a place that we weren't just trying to learn.
171. 13:21He sought to have minds cultivated in order to glorify the Lord and to fill this land
172. 13:28with ministers of the gospel.
173. 13:33It is vitally important and it's really sad to me.
174. 13:40I talked to you guys, some of you heard my oldest son and daughter doing Cherathon.
175. 13:47He marvels.
176. 13:48He's like, Daddy, why don't more of our fellow citizens understand our nation's history?
177. 13:54Why don't our fellow citizens understand
178. 13:57when Thomas Jefferson talks about
179. 13:59the unalienable rights that we enjoy,
180. 14:02that have been bestowed upon us by nature's God,
181. 14:08that that was commonly understood as a reference
182. 14:10to the law of God.
183. 14:13Why don't we know that?
184. 14:14And I'm explaining to him the very same thing.
185. 14:17I'm explaining to you the reason why
186. 14:22they're such an effort to unmore us from our history
187. 14:27because our history points to our God.
188. 14:31And there is a concerted effort to
189. 14:33fundamentally transform the United States of America.
190. 14:37In order for that to be accomplished,
191. 14:40you have to sever the people's recognition,
192. 14:42acknowledgement of, reverence for,
193. 14:44and reverence for, reverence for, and affinity for God
194. 14:48in order for them to be willing to embrace
195. 14:51Dr. Olsen Kennedy's gender clinic preferences.
196. 15:00Those who belong to Christ Jesus have nailed the passions
197. 15:03and desires of their sinful nature to his cross,
198. 15:06and crucified them there.
199. 15:08Since we are living by the Spirit,
200. 15:10let us follow the Spirit's leading
201. 15:12in every part of our lives.
202. 15:14Galatians 5, 24 through 25.
203. 15:17American Family Radio.
204. 15:19Shiting light into the darkness,
205. 15:29this is the Hamilton Corner, an American Family Radio.
206. 15:33Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton III.
207. 15:36Here I'm excited to have on the program with me.
208. 15:39she's returned to the Hamilton corner who I am talking about none other than host of Jenna
209. 15:46Ellis in the morning weekdays hurt here weekdays on American family radio at 7 a.m. central 8 a.m.
210. 15:53Eastern time as well as host of on demand with Jenna Ellis the new podcast that she host in
211. 15:59addition hosts in addition to her weekly her daily I'm sorry morning radio program in addition to those
212. 16:06She's also the chairwoman of the Election Integrity Alliance, Special Counsel for the
213. 16:10Thomas Moore Society, and allied attorney with Alliance Defending Freedom.
214. 16:13She's also the author of a book titled The Legal Basis for Moral Constitution.
215. 16:20She's a native to Colorado, an evangelical Christian, a previous assistant professor
216. 16:24at Colorado Christian University.
217. 16:26She holds a bachelor's in technical journalism from Colorado State University and a JD from
218. 16:31the University of Richmond Law School.
219. 16:32Jenna Ellis, thank you for joining me here on the Hamilton Corner.
220. 16:36Thank you so much.
221. 16:37And the only thing that was left out
222. 16:39is that I am a proud resident now of the state of Florida.
223. 16:42Well, Governor Rhonda Santis.
224. 16:44OK, well, I don't want to tell people where you live.
225. 16:46If you want to tell people where you live,
226. 16:48then you go ahead and tell people where you live.
227. 16:50I appreciate that.
228. 16:51And yes, I will say I'm very happy in the free state of Florida.
229. 16:55Well, I'm sure you are.
230. 16:56Many Floridians are, especially those who
231. 16:59might have voted for Andrew Gillum, who now?
232. 17:02Woo, thankfully we dodged that bullet.
233. 17:05Absolutely.
234. 17:06It's amazing how small the margin was.
235. 17:10Florida would look a lot different if that had happened.
236. 17:13And thank the Lord that Florida is still free.
237. 17:17Yes, thank the Lord.
238. 17:19Now I wanted to have a conversation with you
239. 17:21because behind the scenes you and I have talked about this
240. 17:23a bit more of a macro view of our nation, our nation's history,
241. 17:28our constitutional Republican form of government,
242. 17:31which is guaranteed to every American citizen
243. 17:33by Article four of our constitution.
244. 17:35And one of the things that I lament that is easily ignored
245. 17:42is the uniqueness of our nation.
246. 17:44A lot of people don't understand that we are,
247. 17:48the beneficiaries and we've inherited
248. 17:50a unique system of functioning
249. 17:53that each generation of American has the opportunity
250. 17:56to either preserve or to jettison.
251. 17:59Just when you think about the idea
252. 18:00of the uniqueness of our nation,
253. 18:01what immediately comes to your mind?
254. 18:04Yeah, you know, this is a very timely conversation
255. 18:06because we're actually going through my book
256. 18:08at a church on Wednesdays at my home church now in Florida
257. 18:11and we just discussed this very thing.
258. 18:14In class last night and I played a clip
259. 18:15from the late great Justice Scalia
260. 18:18when he was talking about American exceptionalism.
261. 18:20And whenever we have these conversations,
262. 18:22my mind always goes to what he said back in,
263. 18:27I mean, this was well, well over a decade ago
264. 18:30to and probably more to the Senate talking about the function of the judiciary.
265. 18:36And he was saying that when he asks law students, you know, what is so exceptional about America?
266. 18:40They point to the First Amendment and you know, we have this great bill of rights and we
267. 18:44have, you know, all of these things that are secured.
268. 18:46And he's thinking, and he says, you know, every banana republic has a bill of rights.
269. 18:51I mean, some even enumerate more rights than we do.
270. 18:55That's not what makes us great.
271. 18:56that we separate and we limit powers.
272. 19:00We have such a unique system because we purposefully
273. 19:04are of the people, by the people,
274. 19:05for the people, as you say on this program all the time,
275. 19:08we have aspects and elements of democracy
276. 19:11that are embedded in our constitutional republic.
277. 19:14But on purpose, we separate and limit powers.
278. 19:18And if we were true to the original system
279. 19:20that our founders created in terms of understanding
280. 19:23how to limit the federal government,
281. 19:25And we adhered to federalism had more state sovereignty
282. 19:28and more power that the state legislature
283. 19:32and state governors could actually dictate
284. 19:35to the federal government things like appointing US senators,
285. 19:38things like ensuring that state sovereignty matters
286. 19:41and limiting the power of the federal legislature
287. 19:45to their enumerated powers in Article One, Section Eight,
288. 19:49we wouldn't see this vast bureaucracy.
289. 19:51And our upcoming election in 2024
290. 19:53wouldn't be nearly as dramatic and impactful as it will be because it would
291. 20:00have come down to state sovereignty and states would have had and originally did
292. 20:04have even more power. So when we talk about our system of government and what
293. 20:09makes America great, it's because we don't turn over any of our rights to our
294. 20:15government in exchange for the government's protection or for it to
295. 20:21function, we, the people, give the government very specific and limited powers and we separate
296. 20:27those powers and we also have to have an impartial, unbiased judiciary. And those are the things
297. 20:33that regardless of the outcome in less than two weeks, we need to fight for us conservatives
298. 20:39to preserve and protect. Well said. So when you think about what and you describe this, this kind
299. 20:46of erosion of the founder's vision of our nation.
300. 20:51Like one of the major things was the amendment that changed the election of US senators.
301. 20:55You know, it used to be the state legislatures that would elect US senators.
302. 20:59And the purpose was to balance the interests of the states with the interests of the individual
303. 21:05citizens.
304. 21:06The senate was viewed as the body that carried the interests of the states as an entity, if
305. 21:11if you will, and the House of Representatives was to carry the individual interests and
306. 21:16the deliberate interaction between the two was supposed to be the product of that Federalist
307. 21:23vision for our nation.
308. 21:25But it's changed ever so not settling in some instances, subtly in other instances.
309. 21:32What are some of the factors that have converged to kind of create what we have now?
310. 21:35I mean, the founders intended for the Constitution itself to be read and conversed in homes with
311. 21:41families and moms teaching children and dads run up with their children. But now, most
312. 21:47law students don't even read the Constitution. So how have we gotten to this place where we
313. 21:51don't have a proper approach nor appreciation for our Founders' Vision for our nation?
314. 21:56Yeah, great question. And so many factors, I think, go into that. But by and large, it
315. 22:01is a lack of civic education. I mean, even one of the people in my class last night was
316. 22:07telling me that even going through this class, he said, you know, I'm a, I consider myself a,
317. 22:14a great patriot. I love this country. I vote. I engage. And he said, but even just learning about
318. 22:20the mechanics of this and the history of this is so much more than, you know, he said he had even
319. 22:26contemplated. And I think it mirrors, and I said this back to him that I think it mirrors what a
320. 22:31a lot of Christians, how the modern church
321. 22:35also approaches theology.
322. 22:36Because we can have a passion for our Lord
323. 22:39and Savior, Jesus Christ.
324. 22:40We can call ourselves Christians,
325. 22:41but unless we actually know substantively the truth
326. 22:45and the good news and read daily the scriptures
327. 22:48and we understand the knowledge of God.
328. 22:52I mean, the apostle Paul says,
329. 22:53grow in the grace and knowledge of Christ.
330. 22:56Then we don't actually know how to execute our duty
331. 23:00in terms of daily living the Christian life.
332. 23:02And it's no different in terms of a blueprint
333. 23:05for the civil government and civics
334. 23:08that our founders provided.
335. 23:09And I'm certainly not equating the Constitution
336. 23:11with scripture at all, but just, you know,
337. 23:13but the comparison here in terms of,
338. 23:15you can be a very well-meaning, passionate patriot
339. 23:19and say you love America,
340. 23:20but do you actually understand why we are the way we are,
341. 23:24where we came from?
342. 23:25Because our founders weren't just these great,
343. 23:27engaged enthusiastic torch-building villagers that all decided to you know come
344. 23:31together and produce what what history and even other countries study as the
345. 23:36greatest system of government ever produced by mankind
346. 23:40they understood from whence they came they understood why
347. 23:45bills of rights in the sense in which they were originally contemplated as
348. 23:49hamilton
349. 23:50uh... wrote in federalist eighty four that this was all about the citizen
350. 23:54saying we're willing to turn over our rights to the king or to the landlord in exchange
351. 23:59for protection.
352. 24:00He's saying we don't even need a bill of rights in our constitution because we as citizens
353. 24:04have turned over nothing to the government.
354. 24:06We have given them specific limited powers and if they run afoul, we have the power as
355. 24:13citizens to tell our government no you can't do that.
356. 24:16And we have forgotten that model.
357. 24:18We've forgotten from whence we came and we have forgotten the last 250 years of American
358. 24:23history, but we've forgotten the last 6,000 years of world history.
359. 24:27And so we just have a passion for America, but we don't have the substance anymore.
360. 24:33And that's where we're failing, I think, in our classrooms and especially in our churches
361. 24:38to teach that.
362. 24:39Well, without that substantive understanding, we don't have the wherewithal to hold our
363. 24:46public servants.
364. 24:47And I use that term intentionally because elected representatives are literally elected
365. 24:50do that represent the views in the will of the people as delegated to our elected representatives within our Constitution Republican frame of government?
366. 25:01We have lost so much.
367. 25:05Has it simply been lost or has there been some concerted efforts to really to conceal some of that historical
368. 25:12mooring that it's that must be understood in order to properly appreciate
369. 25:16appreciate what you're describing here because you're referring to Federalist 84. Some people
370. 25:20didn't realize that the originally drafted constitution was rejected by the states, not
371. 25:25in total, but it was a sufficient amount to ratify the constitution. And it was not until
372. 25:32the states, frankly, Virginia and New York were persuaded that a Bill of Rights was forthcoming,
373. 25:38as you mentioned that Alexander Hamilton referred to later on, that they then said, okay,
374. 25:42will come alongside and ratify this constitutional, ultimately.
375. 25:45But a lot of people don't even understand what that was an actual fervent debate between
376. 25:50federalists and anti-federalists that led to the adoption of the compromise that yielded,
377. 25:55as you mentioned, the most the longest enduring constitution in the history of the world is
378. 25:59what we are submitted to in our nation.
379. 26:02So is it the product of simple neglect on the part of the citizens or has there been
380. 26:07some concerted effort employed in order to dislodge the American citizenry from that history
381. 26:12that would allow them to contextualize, if you will,
382. 26:15our constitutional freedoms.
383. 26:17I think it's both.
384. 26:18I mean, certainly there has been neglect,
385. 26:19and I would look directly to the churches for that,
386. 26:23because there's been a neglect of teaching substantive theology,
387. 26:25systematic theology.
388. 26:27There has been neglect in participation in civic issues,
389. 26:30like I'm here in my home state of Florida,
390. 26:32when we have abortion regulation on the ballot,
391. 26:35and some churches are too hesitant to talk about that
392. 26:38from the pulpit.
393. 26:39Well, then what are you doing as a pastor?
394. 26:41if you're not standing up for life.
395. 26:42So there is definitely just some
396. 26:45laxadaisical reasons why we have put this off,
397. 26:49but there's also on the other side the intentionality.
398. 26:51And this is where I see the presidential election
399. 26:55boiling down not to personality,
400. 26:57not to party, not to politics, but to worldview.
401. 26:59Because if you have a view of American exceptionalism
402. 27:04and what it actually means, not as a campaign slogan,
403. 27:06to make America great,
404. 27:08Our greatness is because of this exceptionalism that we've been talking about and that can only come through ordered liberty and genuine freedom that is built upon the Judeo-Christian worldview.
405. 27:19And of course, Donald Trump doesn't represent that perfectly, but he is the candidate that is a lot closer in all of his policies to that and there is still an effort for capitalism, for so many of these policies that are actually good for human flourishing.
406. 27:35And on the other side, you have a candidate, and this is where the intentionality over the
407. 27:41last 20 and 30 years of American history, and especially with the sexual revolution,
408. 27:46I mean so many things that we could get into, but especially in just the last 15 years or
409. 27:52so since the years of Obama, when there was this intentional push not only to the LGBTQ
410. 27:58movement to divest ourselves from our identity in Christ as human beings made in the image
411. 28:04of God are Imago Dei, but also a push toward cultural Marxism.
412. 28:08And this is why you're seeing the 1619 Project come and rewrite America's founding because
413. 28:14if they can rewrite our very inception of a nation, then they think that they can transform
414. 28:21America's trajectory and ultimately our conclusion.
415. 28:24And so a so a Kamala Harris administration and the people behind her, the people that have
416. 28:29been in the Biden administration, the people that were in the Obama administration and they
417. 28:33They are the ones that are pushing cultural Marxism that the that that pit the oppressors
418. 28:39versus the oppressed and they want to create entitlements to have people who are reliant
419. 28:45on government and to say that they get to dictate when, where and how you exercise whatever
420. 28:50privileges they seek to define for you.
421. 28:53So it's this total transformation under her worldview not to have natural God given rights
422. 29:00that are protected and are God-given, but civil rights, which are defined and given as privileges
423. 29:09from the government. And this is where you can see their transformation of quote unquote civil
424. 29:14rights being all about sexual orientation, gender identity, even the the child's right to
425. 29:23determine their own gender and their own pronouns and parental rights can be foreclosed based on
426. 29:28on that, but yet somehow a mother can choose to kill her child in the womb and that's considered
427. 29:34a right. So it's all totally inconsistent, just like Marxism is in terms of a cohesive
428. 29:39worldview. But the whole worldview is purposefully to simply say we want the outcome driven alternative
429. 29:47that civil rights are determined by us, the government, the elite, so that we can transform
430. 29:53America ultimately into a communist regime?
431. 29:56Well, I often said if I ever had the opportunity to moderate a president to debate, the very
432. 30:01first question I would ask every candidate is where do rights come from?
433. 30:05That was the first thing I would ask because that would tell me everything I need to know
434. 30:10about their ideology, their philosophy of government, their view of their role vis-à-vis the American
435. 30:16citizen.
436. 30:17That tells me everything I need to know because if their answer, if they reveal that they
437. 30:23They believe rights germinate from government.
438. 30:26They are already starting from a position
439. 30:28that automatically puts the people in a position
440. 30:32to where they ultimately are servants of the government.
441. 30:35And so that fundamental foundational understanding
442. 30:40is vitally necessary to assess when determining
443. 30:43who we are going to allow to serve our nation
444. 30:49in the positions that we put them in.
445. 30:51and that divergence of worldview,
446. 30:54it has been happening for quite some time,
447. 30:56but this is one of the most punctuated divergences
448. 30:58that I've certainly, that I've experienced in my lifetime.
449. 31:02And no matter how much conversation is had about it,
450. 31:06our nation continues to trend in the same direction
451. 31:10along the worldview spectrum.
452. 31:12And I don't believe for one moment
453. 31:14that that is an accident because what you just described,
454. 31:16the severance of our foundation
455. 31:18is exactly what Antonio Gramsci
456. 31:20Poshulated in his prison notebooks that if we're going to have a people that is grounded in a Christian ethos a biblical worldview
457. 31:27That there's no way they'll be persuaded without severed roots
458. 31:30So the root must be severed and the history must be concealed if not completely changed in order to make the people moveable
459. 31:37But without that the people won't move
460. 31:39Well said well said
461. 31:41and it's
462. 31:43Go ahead. We have about 30 seconds. I was just saying well said and and this is exactly why
463. 31:48teaching history matters at home for parents or to either supplement or direct
464. 31:53your children's education and this also matters to teach biblical and world
465. 31:57history at the church. It's very very very true. When we come back you've written a
466. 32:03piece that's on AFN.net right now AmericanFamilyNews.net it's titled
467. 32:08there's nothing democratic about dumping the electoral college we'll get into it
468. 32:12on the other side of the break stay with us.
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475. 33:01Back to the Hamilton Quarter on American Family Radio.
476. 33:06Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton.
477. 33:08The third here, my guest is Jenna Ellis, host of Jenna Ellis in the morning that you can
478. 33:14hear weekdays, Monday through Friday, right here in American Family Radio at 7 a.m., Central
479. 33:19time, eight AM Eastern time. You can also hear her on her new podcast on demand with Jenna Ellis
480. 33:26that you can find anywhere podcasts are available. That podcast airs new episodes weekly. They
481. 33:32release about on Fridays each week. And I just learned this that she also writes a weekly column
482. 33:38for American Family News that also be available on Friday. So you definitely want to keep up
483. 33:43with all of those things. Jenna, I wanted to continue our conversation and the piece that
484. 33:48I referred to before the break.
485. 33:50We went to the break.
486. 33:50There's nothing democratic about dumping the electoral college.
487. 33:53This has been a consistent drum beat for progressives
488. 33:57all around our country for quite some time.
489. 33:58But even most recently by the Democrat nominee
490. 34:03for the vice presidency, Tim Walz,
491. 34:05where he, at a fundraiser, not just one twice,
492. 34:08said that he is, you know, we need to get rid
493. 34:10of the electoral college.
494. 34:12And that caught the consternation of the Harris-Waltz campaign
495. 34:16that I do believe he's a part of,
496. 34:17that
497. 34:18less room in the week we think i did it did it to come live in checker website
498. 34:22i don't even know if she knows what's going on and i'm not sure but what i do
499. 34:26know is regressive take the electoral college is like to get the constitution
500. 34:29uh... so why is there nothing democratic
501. 34:32miss ellis about dumping the electoral college
502. 34:36yeah well you do you always say that if democrats and and regressives as you call
503. 34:40them to have double standards they would have any standards at all
504. 34:43and the entire point of packing the court or removing the electoral
505. 34:47college or changing any of these processes that we currently have is to simply manipulate
506. 34:52the outcome.
507. 34:53So you can almost be guaranteed that if the left is suggesting changing something in the
508. 34:58way that we do any of our procedures and this is true for election integrity, it's true from
509. 35:03any policy issue and process, they are simply trying to tip the skills in their favor.
510. 35:09And the Electoral College has been shaped by them in media to be totally antiquated and
511. 35:16somehow disenfranchising the voter. Well what people don't understand is that
512. 35:21originally in the Constitutional Convention there were a lot of different
513. 35:24arguments and plans for how we would select our chief magistrate as Hamilton
514. 35:30calls him and it's the federalist I think 68 when he describes the selection or
515. 35:36election of a president and there were a lot of different ways we could do that and
516. 35:40in fact you know some of the founders were suggesting we'll have all of the
517. 35:44governors select the president because really they should have more of a say.
518. 35:49And so the Electoral College was kind of this compromise to say, well, the states can determine
519. 35:53the state legislatures, can determine how they select their electors, and the electors
520. 35:59who actually cast their vote to the Electoral College are sent by the states, and they have
521. 36:04to not have an office or trust under the United States to not be influenced by the federal
522. 36:11government at all, and they are an independent body that would, that are selected in the
523. 36:17manner that the legislature designates to then cast their vote for president. And the electors
524. 36:22are determined by two for each state because they're a state and the number of senators
525. 36:30as well, and then apportioned by representation and population. So the electoral college actually
526. 36:36represents each state. But if we rejected that and we went just to a pure popular vote,
527. 36:44then all of the middle states wouldn't even matter. You would have a concentration of
528. 36:49the population in about the four biggest states. And those states would determine who
529. 36:54is the president. So talk about disenfranchisement. I mean, your vote there in Mississippi wouldn't
530. 37:00really matter. Even the state legislature, how they appoint their electric, that wouldn't
531. 37:05matter anymore, candidates would only go to the largest population density states.
532. 37:11And there is no way that the left would ever suggest this if Republican candidates
533. 37:17for president had won the popular vote in the last several elections.
534. 37:21This became a really big deal when Hillary Clinton won the popular vote, but
535. 37:26lost the electoral college to Donald Trump.
536. 37:28If that had been reversed, they would be like, Oh, look, this is why we have this
537. 37:32great system it protects against you know this guy who's trying to destroy
538. 37:36democracy is in this a great system the only reason that they are trying to
539. 37:41destroy it or even suggest it needs to be abolished or or amended is because it
540. 37:46forts their ability to mislead voters and suggest that somehow it's
541. 37:51disenfranchising the voter when really to go back to our earlier
542. 37:55conversation it's just that voters by and large don't understand why the
543. 38:00electoral college was designed and how it actually protects their vote.
544. 38:03You're absolutely right.
545. 38:04I mean, to put it very simply, the purpose of the electoral college was to balance the
546. 38:09interest of larger states and smaller states and require whoever will serve in Hamiltonian
547. 38:16lexicon as the chief magistrate, he or she at some point, the chief magistrate would have
548. 38:23to appeal to the entirety of the American populace.
549. 38:26That's it.
550. 38:27That's the bottom line.
551. 38:28to kind of make it simple, it's an analogy to where they're 50 separate games, you know,
552. 38:34like the World Series is happening, the Dodgers and the Yankees are about to play each other.
553. 38:38Nobody would say, hey, how about this?
554. 38:40Let's forget how many games were won.
555. 38:42Let's see who has the most number of runs at the end of all of the games and whoever has
556. 38:46the most runs, then they'll be the World Series champs.
557. 38:49No, we understand that.
558. 38:50No, it's the best of seven series, whoever wins for out of the seven out of the series
559. 38:55is, that is the World Series champs.
560. 38:56It doesn't matter how many runs you got in game one versus game six.
561. 39:00Who won game one, game two, game three, who won four out of seven.
562. 39:04It's the same thing with electoral college, but it's just what you said.
563. 39:08These people are not committed to anything in principle.
564. 39:10They're committed to one thing, power and winning.
565. 39:12That's the only reason why they don't like it.
566. 39:14A great example is when Harry Reid abandoned the filibuster for lower federal court of nominees.
567. 39:20Harry unilaterally did that.
568. 39:21Why?
569. 39:22Because the Democrats didn't have enough votes to get Democrat nominees across the finish
570. 39:25line.
571. 39:26So then, oh, President Trump comes into office and says,
572. 39:29hey, this thing that the Democrats did
573. 39:31for lower federal court appointees,
574. 39:33we'll do Mitch McConnell said,
575. 39:35we'll do this for the Supreme Court.
576. 39:36And the Democrats blew their minds.
577. 39:38It's like, whoa, this is terrorism, what is going on?
578. 39:42It's like, dude, y'all just did that.
579. 39:44And it's like the old commercial,
580. 39:46because the name of the game is I win.
581. 39:49The name of the game is I win, you lose.
582. 39:51So whatever results in I win, you lose,
583. 39:53then that's what we wanna do.
584. 39:54And that is saving democracy.
585. 39:55and it's manipulative and only way can be effective to come back
586. 39:59to what we talked about in the previous segment
587. 40:00is we have a populist that is easily manipulated
588. 40:03and that is unaware
589. 40:05over the constitution requires an arm on full effect
590. 40:07that the bible says
591. 40:09uh...
592. 40:10manipulation is akin to witchcraft
593. 40:14well that that's i mean with all the common here says invocations of some of
594. 40:18those you know pegan
595. 40:20uh... slogans and phrases you're probably not too far off
596. 40:24Yeah. Oh man.
597. 40:26It's just very concerning.
598. 40:27But it's absolutely true, Abe, that the Democrats and the leftists would love to set up a system,
599. 40:32heads eye, when tails you lose.
600. 40:34That's what they strive for.
601. 40:35That is what they're seeking to accomplish.
602. 40:37And to that point, we'll talk about something that's happening in your own state.
603. 40:40And there's one of the 10 states that have valid initiatives to where people that are seemingly
604. 40:46zealously committed to killing innocent unborn children.
605. 40:51They're attempting to enshine these rights in state
606. 40:54constitutions all over our country.
607. 40:55Amendment four is on the ballot in Florida.
608. 40:58I know you have been involved in what's happening there,
609. 41:00keeping up with what's happening on the ground in Florida.
610. 41:02Can you just give us an update as to where things stand concerning
611. 41:05Amendment four in your home state of Florida?
612. 41:08Yeah, this is about taking away any regulations
613. 41:13on abortion effectively and would allow state funded,
614. 41:16taxpayer funded abortion on demand for any reason up
615. 41:20until the moment of birth is basically what is on the ballot.
616. 41:23And this is not legislation.
617. 41:26This is not just to replace the heartbeat bill that is currently Florida
618. 41:30state law with different legislation.
619. 41:32This is where again, the progressives, the dark money, the Soros funding,
620. 41:36the Planned Parenthood funding, they are very smart and strategic.
621. 41:40Instead of going after the legislation, they are circumventing a super
622. 41:45majority Republican Florida state legislature and governor,
623. 41:48to Santas and going directly to the people and saying, well, fine, then we will cement
624. 41:54a so-called right to abortion in the state constitution.
625. 41:57And that will be much, much more difficult for the pro-life movement to combat after we
626. 42:03do this.
627. 42:04And this is why there are so many state initiatives that are on the ballot this year in 10 states
628. 42:09because the Democrats are saying, okay, fine, if pro-lifers want to go after legislation,
629. 42:13And we will go after the state constitutions and we will cement this into the state constitution.
630. 42:19So I was at an event with Governor DeSantis earlier this week and he's just doing this
631. 42:23just barnstorming event across the state, multiple town halls, talking about why everyone needs
632. 42:29to vote no on Amendment 4 and also Amendment 3 legalizing marijuana in Florida.
633. 42:35And go to AFAaction.net for everyone listening.
634. 42:39There are, there is a voter guide on all of these ballot initiatives.
635. 42:42so you can see where they're at by state,
636. 42:44and we'll tell you the biblical worldview
637. 42:47in terms of how to vote on initiatives.
638. 42:49And so at that event with Governor DeSantis,
639. 42:51he made a great point that whenever you're talking
640. 42:54about changing our highest law in the state,
641. 42:58your default should just be no,
642. 43:02because that has to be something that is so needed,
643. 43:05so important and so well-written,
644. 43:08that it can pass by the 60% majority threshold
645. 43:12that it needs. And he said, so if you are just going out on any topic and you are not informed
646. 43:17and you don't actually know the consequences, whether it's amendment for anything else, or
647. 43:20if you're not in the state of Florida and you're listening to this and you're not aware
648. 43:23of your ballot initiatives and you step into that ballot box, you're filling it out, your
649. 43:27ballot on your kitchen table, and you realize you don't really understand the ballot initiatives,
650. 43:32your default should be no, we are not going to change our state constitution without very
651. 43:37careful consideration of what we're doing.
652. 43:39absolutely right. And it's the same all over the country, but these initiatives are written
653. 43:45in a way that's intentionally deceptive. And to really ensnare the citizens, thankfully,
654. 43:52in the state of Florida that the threshold to a ministate constitution is raised to 60%,
655. 43:56but other parts of our country is not that high. But in many ways, and I think there's a sound
656. 44:00argument for raising the threshold for constitutional amendment even higher than 60% frankly, because
657. 44:08the constitutions in our states aren't the types of things that should be readily and readily
658. 44:13amended just based off any emotional surge and emotional appeal, but it should be the
659. 44:18product of thorough deliberation and thorough consideration before something like that would
660. 44:25take place. But it's exactly what you're saying. There's an inrun attempt around the legislative
661. 44:31process to simply go right to try to amend state constitutions all over the country. And
662. 44:37evidence shows that once constitutions have been amended in our states, it's very hard
663. 44:42to reverse that subsequent.
664. 44:44So it's vitally important that everybody not just cast a vote, but cast an informed vote
665. 44:49and I echo Jenna sentiments.
666. 44:51You can go to afaaction.net, go to ivotoguide.com, find out what's exactly on your ballot,
667. 44:58not just the summaries, not just digest about it, but read the actual text of the proposed
668. 45:04amendment.
669. 45:05can know what is in your constant in on your particular ballot in and I do agree
670. 45:11with you that the default position when it comes to amending my state constitution
671. 45:14my default position is no because what is what is the amendment going to do
672. 45:19that's not already being done go ahead right and I was gonna say to give you an
673. 45:22example as well I mean because all all of us here in the AFA family could say
674. 45:26okay well of course we're pro-life so we're gonna vote no on amendment 4 but
675. 45:29what about something like school choice that generally we support there is
676. 45:33proposition 80 from my former home state of Colorado that's four school choices
677. 45:36written by people who I don't think actually intended kind of nefarious
678. 45:41language but that proposition would also cement a right of children to
679. 45:47access a quote-unquote quality education no definition of quality so who will
680. 45:53determine that later well the government judges that poison pill means
681. 45:59that the homeschool legal defense association the caller Christian home
682. 46:01educators association, they're all against that because these terms are too vague. And so even if
683. 46:07you are thinking, Oh, the summary of this is fine because of course, I'm for school choice.
684. 46:11This is why reading the text matters and understanding are there secure enough definitions and go to
685. 46:17sources that you trust on those specific policy issues that you trusted before these ballot
686. 46:23initiatives ever came to the table. HSLDA is one that I would trust on issues of homeschooling.
687. 46:28on AFA is when I would trust on issues of biblical worldview.
688. 46:32Yeah, and it is, and I guess I should say this, I'm on the board at HSLDA.
689. 46:37So I certainly-
690. 46:38Well, there you go.
691. 46:39Then you absolutely know it.
692. 46:40On issues of homeschooling.
693. 46:41And it's exactly what you said.
694. 46:44Jenna, thank you so much for joining me.
695. 46:46And we have a couple minutes left.
696. 46:49In these last few minutes, what are some things you would recommend for people to do, not
697. 46:54not only to participate in this electoral cycle, but to become more conversant on our founding
698. 46:59principles, our history and how understanding their influences, how we engage currently in
699. 47:05civic matters.
700. 47:06Take time to learn and to read from quality sources. You have to be daily first and foremost
701. 47:12in your Bible because if you don't understand how Christians should engage government regardless
702. 47:17of that system of government because there are Christians well before the United States
703. 47:21of America, then you're missing the key foundation.
704. 47:26So be daily in the word first, then learn world history, learn about the Constitution.
705. 47:31I would humbly recommend my resource that I wrote for this exact purpose, which is a
706. 47:36book titled The Legal Basis for a Moral Constitution.
707. 47:39It is not written for lawyers.
708. 47:41It's for every American to understand why our founders set up this system and why we
709. 47:46have to protect it.
710. 47:47Well said, Janellus.
711. 47:48Thank you for joining me here on the Hamilton Corner.
712. 47:50Everyone, you have a wonderful evening.
713. 47:53As I said yesterday, and I will continue to say,
714. 47:55what is foremost required of a servant,
715. 47:57that that servant is found faithful.
716. 48:00That has not called us to be successful as the world,
717. 48:03described success, he calls us to be faithful.
718. 48:07Faithfulness is typified by obedience.
719. 48:11The pinnacle of the lifestyle of worship is obedience.
720. 48:14Every single follower of the Lord Jesus Christ
721. 48:16calling to ministry and the most robust evidence of our ministry unto him is obeying him.
722. 48:23If we love him, we'll obey him.
723. 48:24Y'all have a great evening.
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725. 48:35Family Association or American Family Radio.