August 22, 2024 · 48:51

("Best-of" Edition from 8/9) David Magee, Jr., Executive Director of H.Y.P.E., returns to “The Corner.”

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0:00 - 15:00. 2 Timothy 3:13-17. The surrounding darkness has no bearing on The Remnant’s obedience. 15:00 - 31:00. David Magee, Jr., Executive Director of H.Y.P.E., returns to “The Corner.” 31:00 - 48:00. All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. or call 504-641-4973 To donate call : 877-616-2396

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0:00Darkness is not an affirmative force.
0:02It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
0:06This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
0:10It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite.
0:15Delivery people out of the bondage of mainstream media.
0:18And the philosophies of this world.
0:20God has called you and me to be his ambassador.
0:23Even in this dark moment.
0:26Let's not miss our moment.
0:28And now the Hamilton Corner.
1:01will Louisiana the address for the church is 1148 Stirlington highway farmer
1:07will Louisiana 71241 if you're in the area you are welcome to come out seating
1:14is limited however I'm going to be ministering there tonight tomorrow evening as
1:20well as two services on Sunday so if you're in the area you are welcome to come
1:26again seating is limited so if you want to be a part you need to come early
1:31The service tonight will begin at 7 p.m. Tomorrow night the service will begin at 7 p.m.
1:36And then there will be an 11 a.m. service and a 1 p.m. service on Sunday.
1:40So if you're in the place or in near the place and you want to be apart, come on over.
1:46All right. At this very moment, many of you, if not most of you are making your transition from
1:50your part time jobs where you generate an income to your full time jobs, your full time jobs aware,
1:58You cultivate an outcome and as you make your transition, I want to remind you to do so with intentionality
2:05understanding the primacy that God places on the family. I understand things are
2:12absurd to say the least right now in all over the world in many different places
2:17But the absurdity of the environment has no
2:20So bearing must have, should have no bearing on how you and I respond.
2:28That's just a simple fact.
2:30That is a simple reality.
2:32We must never forget that God has placed us in this time for His glory.
2:36God has placed us in this moment for His glory.
2:40And we have the opportunity to be His hands and feet now.
2:44We must, we must, we must take full advantage of it.
2:47fact, we're going to talk about that in the word of God now, because with the things swirling,
2:54it's understandable for you to have questions. It's understandable for you to have thoughts
3:00and concerns. But we have to embrace the fact. We have the opportunity to embrace the fact,
3:09and we must embrace the fact that God has placed us here now for his glory. One of the most
3:14immediate externalized places where we must not only be present but functional is within our families.
3:22In many ways, you can describe what has happened in our country as the by-product of the deficiencies
3:29that have abounded in our families. If you look at the expansion of the Leviathan state, they correspond
3:36with retrenchments within the family because we'll never be able to out-politik or out-church
3:43deficiencies in the home. That's just a simple reality. And when I say out politic or out church,
3:51I'm talking about the things that are available to us through the political sphere and even the
3:56things that are available to us through the ecclesiastical fear, they will not be able to overwhelm or
4:03overcome the persisting deficiencies that are in the home. Many, many, many, many, many, many people
4:09who are adults right now, 40, 50, 60, you know, 70 years old.
4:15Many people are dealing with overcoming
4:18much of the scarring, they endured as children, even now.
4:23And I'm not just talking about unbelievers,
4:24I'm talking about believers as well.
4:27Still reacting to, still responding to,
4:30still being, still attempting to maneuver out of the formation
4:35of the formation and the shaping that occurred
4:38when they were children.
4:41It shouldn't be surprising to us that this is the fact
4:43because God has ordained the family
4:46to be a maximal impacting force
4:50upon our development and our formation.
4:54And there are lots of people
4:55that are still trying to recover from childhood.
4:57I'm just telling you what it is.
4:59Just telling you what it is.
5:02So if you are like I am,
5:04I have young children still in my home,
5:05my youngest is gonna be three at the end of the year.
5:08You know, my oldest is 13.
5:11Good gracious.
5:12It's gonna be 14 by the end of the year.
5:13If you are in the station of life as I am, we have to make these years count, man.
5:22And then no do-overs.
5:24There are no mulligans.
5:25There are no life mulligans to repeat.
5:29The grace of God is sufficient.
5:31On the other end, sure.
5:32But sometimes we have people that are dealing with war wounds that God never intended for
5:38them to have to endure.
5:40And so I know right now a lot of people are considering, you know, back to school and all that kind of stuff and really have you sought the Lord as how you're going to
5:50train and to disciple your children.
5:53Have you concluded that your discipleship must be bifurcated from their academic development? Have you considered it?
6:03Have you sought the Lord, not just thought within yourself. Have you sought the Lord? Have you and your spouse?
6:07sought the Lord as to what you would do with the Lord's heritage.
6:10As he describes him, it's on 127.
6:12I know I don't believe any parent intentionally wants to put their child in a situation where they accumulate unneeded war wounds,
6:23that they're going to have to recover from in their 30s, 40s, and 50s.
6:27I don't believe any parent does that intentionally, except for the demonically possessed, I would say.
6:33You know, those were just patently sociopathic.
6:42But parents, parents love their children.
6:47And parents often do the best that they can.
6:49But I'm asking, have we sought the Lord?
6:52Are we offering the best that we can
6:53in and of ourselves and in the flesh?
6:55Or have we welcomed the Lord to bring
6:57the wisdom of God to bear upon our choices?
7:01Let's go to the word of God.
7:03Second Timothy chapter three, verses 13 through 17.
7:08I'm sharing this with you all because
7:10I draw great strength and encouragement from this text.
7:15and I want to share this same source of strength and encouragement with you.
7:20This is where the latter part of the Apostle Paul's life,
7:24as we've discussed this many, many, many times.
7:28Paul diagnoses the metastasizing wickedness that would come in the latter days,
7:36and he gets to this point in his letter where he says verse 13,
7:40but evil men and imposters or seducers will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being
7:51deceived. You, however, continue in the things you have learned and become convinced of knowing
8:00from whom you have learned it, and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings
8:06which are able to give you wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ
8:12Jesus. All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction,
8:27for training in righteousness so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good
8:39work. I get great encouragement from this passage because just as the
8:48Apostle Paul rightly diagnosed the fact that his time progresses in the latter
8:54days wickedness would abound but then he offers his contrast in verse 14 but
9:04you Timothy but you believer this is what the Lord is saying to his body but
9:13you, believer, the ascending evil surrounding you, does not provide an occasion for you to
9:24step out of who you are in your newness of life in Christ Jesus to dumb down your position
9:31as a part of the Lord's remnant, to become co-opted by the wickedness that surrounds you,
9:38you, believer, have a contrasting, standing out or outstanding position.
9:46continue and what you know to be true. Our society works over time to condemn people who would dare
9:56assert that truth, first and foremost, is objective. It doesn't change. And those such thing as your truth
10:04and my truth, there is truth and there is lie, point blank. Now, you might have an experience,
10:14but your experience doesn't rise to the level of objective truth. You may have an opinion,
10:19But opinion doesn't rise to the level of objective truth because objective truth, in
10:26addition to being objective, it is transcendent.
10:31It exists outside of humankind and persists without consent from mankind and foundationally,
10:44ultimately, truth is a person.
10:47You continue in what you have learned.
10:51continue in the truth that has been revealed to you. Verse 16, all scripture is
11:03inspired by God. The Greek term there is theonusitos. It is God breathed. It is God
11:11breathed. Because it is God breathed, it is a
11:15thoratative. It is authoritative. And because it is authoritative, it is
11:26profitable and I love this. It is profitable for teaching. What? You mean to tell me in the midst of
11:35this cascading and ascending wickedness that the Lord's people are still should still be about the
11:41business of teaching? Yes, yes, because ideas have consequences, bad ideas create casualties
11:49in the most impactful casualty is eternal damnation.
11:59It is because we love God and his love works in us
12:04to love our neighbor as ourselves.
12:07That one of the most loving things you can do
12:09is to warn one that is bound for eternal suffering.
12:16To warn them, hey, there's a cliff that you're heading toward.
12:19You're careening toward a cliff.
12:22And this cliff is not temporary.
12:25This cliff is eternal.
12:29The word of God is profitable to do this work.
12:31The word of God is profitable for reproof and correction.
12:37Wait a minute, wait a minute.
12:38In the context of increasing wickedness,
12:42the Lord's people are still supposed to be
12:46about reproof and correction.
12:50And what you to see from this text
12:52is that these qualities, these features of the word of God
12:54not merely to be applied externally.
12:58Because when it says Word of God is profitable for teaching,
13:02it's profitable for to instruct us.
13:06Because we are instructed, we're able to instruct.
13:11It's profitable for reproof and correction.
13:17Reproof, rebuke, the Greek terminology there,
13:21two different components.
13:24At one point, if one is going down an interstate
13:28headed east, and he's supposed to be traveling west,
13:30It is reproof that I say, you need a U-turn my man.
13:36Correction would be you're heading east on an interstate,
13:41but you get off the interstate and get on the service road
13:43or the feeder, you're deviating a bit.
13:46And the correction comes and you say,
13:47come on, get back on course, get back on course.
13:53You haven't completely gone in the opposite direction
13:55of where you're supposed to go, but you've gotten off course
13:57in the direction you're supposed to go.
13:58The word of God is profitable for this.
14:02It's profitable for training, training oneself.
14:07and a vehicle for training others.
14:10In the midst of cascading and ascending wickedness, yes, yes.
14:15It's wacky in these streets, no doubt about it.
14:17But what does that have to do with you?
14:19What does that have to do with me?
14:21What are we to do?
14:23Our marching orders have been delivered to us.
14:27The environment surrounding us should not dictate to us
14:31the quality with which we obey and respond
14:35to the orders of our King.
14:39Take heart brothers and sisters.
14:42Buckle your seat belts, tighten right.
14:45Put the work boots on, the steel toes.
14:48Because God has ordained us for this moment.
14:51And we cannot, and we must not miss our moment.
14:56We must not miss our moment.
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16:08Shining light into the darkness.
16:10This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
16:14Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner,
16:16Abraham Hamilton III here.
16:18I'm excited to have on the program with me.
16:20Man, this is my man.
16:21We literally go way back like a wavecap.
16:24I'm telling you the truth.
16:26I mean, he can tell you some stories of us playing basketball
16:28in the gym and I got my do-rag flagging.
16:30Ha ha ha ha ha.
16:33My guess is none other than Mr. David McGee Jr.,
16:36Executive Director for Hype, a nonprofit ministry
16:40harnessing youth potential and energy
16:44in the greater New Orleans area.
16:45Mr. McGee is a member of the chair of numerous boards.
16:50For example, the youth advisory council and Jefferson
16:52Parish, the Jefferson Parish Children's and youth planning
16:55board, chair of the property committee on Girl Scouts,
16:58Southeast Louisiana.
17:00He is the recent chair of the J.C.F.A.
17:02charter school board.
17:04He's a youth pastor at his church.
17:06My friend, my brother, David McGee, was happening, man.
17:08Thank you for joining me here on the program.
17:10Thanks for having me, brother.
17:11Man, it is truly, truly my pleasure.
17:14I'm not kidding when I say you know the stories with the flag and do rag on the plane
17:18This is true.
17:19But now I wanted to have you on the program for several reasons.
17:25First, I wanted to share with our audience here the work that God is doing through hype.
17:32Would you just share with the audience here what hype is and what it is that you guys what
17:36you are doing to light up the darkness in our hometown?
17:41Sure. So the name of the organization is hype. And like you said, the acronym is Harnessing
17:47its Potential Identity. It is based on the scripture in Psalms 127. It says, Children are
17:53as arrows in the hand of a mighty man and blesses the man who has a quiver full of them. And
17:58what I like about the scripture is, Children are a blessing. And but they are also he like
18:05he calls them arrows, meaning that they are things that can definitely advance the kingdom
18:11or do some damage in the hands of the wrong person.
18:15And so right now what hype is doing is trying to fill the gaps in the places where the Bible
18:21admonishes us to be there for the widow and for the fatherless and a lot of the people that we work with
18:28are single parent homes. They come from the juvenile justice system or the foster care system
18:33or just in the community where parents are lacking in need. And so we try to take their potential
18:38and move them from being possibly powerful to being powerful.
18:43And so we get a lot of our referrals from the juvenile court system
18:47and their programs, their human service authorities
18:50and things like that.
18:51We have contracts with them.
18:52So they send them to us and we meet with them weekly
18:54and talk to them about who they are,
18:56who God created them to be and hold them accountable
18:59until they get their pointing people towards purpose
19:01and then hold them accountable and give them the skills
19:03and resources until they get there.
19:05Man, that's so necessary.
19:07It's so profound because the reality is this,
19:12and I don't mean this in a condemning manner at all,
19:15God knows that we live in a fallen and in a broken world.
19:19But the prevalence of fallenness
19:22doesn't change God's standards.
19:24God's standards are what they are,
19:26yet we often have to deal with the fallout
19:29from the brokenness from that prevalence.
19:31And I was saying early in the first segment
19:34that it'll be tremendously difficult to out politic
19:39and even to out church deficiencies that are in the home.
19:42But the reality is what do we do when we have those deficiencies
19:45and how can we respond?
19:46And so you did mention that you have lots of young people
19:52who refer to you from the juvenile justice system.
19:56Would you just explain a little bit
19:57as to how those referrals take place?
19:59Sure.
20:00So most of them, there are a couple of different programs
20:03the juvenile court. And so one of them is called Fins. It's an acronym for Families in Need of Service.
20:09And so these aren't necessarily young people who may have committed a crime. Most of the time
20:13it's either through truancy and parents who are reaching out to the course as a last ditch effort
20:18to say, hey, I don't know what to do. I need some help. And they are coming to the courts,
20:23even though this may possibly jeopardize their child's freedom or get them involved in this
20:27court system that they may not have otherwise been involved in. But the parents feel like they're
20:32in danger of getting in further trouble. So they go to the course or their truant parents
20:37haven't been involved in kids or missing school. There's something going on in the home. And then
20:41there's of course like probation, intensive probation where they have committed some offense and are
20:48being monitored and they look at hype as a way to help stop gap some of the
20:53behavior, the risky behaviors that they're participating in. And these are what we will call
20:57like sometimes front end kids where these young people are right at a crossroads where they see
21:03potential, they're participating in a diversion program or they're trying to divert and that's
21:07in a nutshell that's what the juvenile justice system is supposed to be. At least here that's the goal
21:11is to divert them from getting further involved in the as adults and so hype stands in the gap
21:18trying to offer a different option and give them the resources so they don't go further involved
21:23into the justice system.
21:27What are some of the, well, let me ask this question,
21:30this is something I think some listeners will be interested
21:32in learning.
21:34In terms of the children who referred to hype,
21:36are we talking predominantly young males, young men,
21:40or young ladies, is it a mixture?
21:43What is the makeup there?
21:45Sure, so normally our target group
21:48are high school to middle school age, young people.
21:51We take them anywhere from between six and 22, but high school and middle school,
21:55I've done, but the majority of the referrals and the majority of them are young men
22:00from single parent homes or where it's a grandmother taking care of or a grandfather
22:07possibly taking care of these young people.
22:09Um, and the large majority here in our area are minorities, not all.
22:16Um, but listen, and we, but we also have people, the more public we've become
22:21There are middle class folks these and we're in a load of modern income
22:25That's a very target, but there are people from all aspects of life now more coming up participate
22:30Because they see what we're doing and they even want their child to be part of something good
22:34Which is awesome because now we have different perspectives and the kids who had never been exposed to young people who have this
22:41Timacity to want to do great things and be godly they see that there and so it was raised the bar a little
22:46Mmm man, that's wonderful.
22:48Would you be able to share maybe some of the experiences you've had, maybe a testimony or two?
22:53With a young person or some young people that you've been walking alongside with for some time working through the hype programs and to see them
23:01really experience the transformation in the process?
23:05Absolutely, there's two that come to mind immediately.
23:08One of them, it's when I first came home, I was doing this work and
23:13and a young man who had,
23:16he was the typical New Orleans teenager
23:19and drinking, having a good time in New Orleans
23:21with people who don't know,
23:22there aren't a lot of recreational activities for teenagers.
23:27By the time you age out of the parks,
23:29which we play football or basketball
23:31and you aren't old enough to work,
23:33they kind of go to Birdman Street
23:34and they start doing these adult activities anyway.
23:36He was drinking and hanging out with his friends
23:38and he wrecked his mom's car
23:40and was working the dead end job on a construction site
23:46and I told me that he wanted to work with animals.
23:48And he kind of said it as if it was something
23:51to be proud of.
23:52Little did he know that my dad loves animals
23:54and my brother is a veterinarian technician in the military.
23:57So anyway, we wound up talking to him,
24:00sitting down with him, creating a budget
24:01and creating a plan and helped him to clean up his record.
24:06And he is now a veterinarian technician
24:08in the military just finished some school
24:11and got an award on a side note.
24:13And Mary and my sister had no idea he was gonna do that.
24:17So I'm glad that we were teaching him
24:18to be a good responsible young man.
24:20So he makes a good husband for my sister.
24:22And there's another young man who right after COVID,
24:26he, his grandmother passed and went into like a state
24:30of depression and stayed in his room,
24:32dropped out of school, stopped going to school,
24:34stayed in his room for about two years.
24:35And his grandfather reached out to someone
24:38through my wife's organization, Casa, and said,
24:40hey, I need help.
24:42And long story short, we talked to him.
24:44He was reluctant.
24:46And I kind of set some parameters with his grandfather.
24:52And the man comes to me this day every time he sees me,
24:54and says, thank you, we saved his life.
24:56He ended up being one of the highest performing
24:58young people at his school, finished school,
25:01and two years passed up some of his peers
25:03and graduated just recently.
25:07And so he thinks me now, you know, but it's not me.
25:10It's the work that God has put in me and all the people
25:12we put around, but that's just two of them.
25:14And there's a whole lot more like that.
25:16Man, praise God for that.
25:18One of the major things I want to talk about,
25:21let me just ask this now, because people are listening.
25:23I know there are lots of people who would love to support
25:25the work that you're doing there in the New Orleans area.
25:28And there may be even people listening
25:30who might want to volunteer some of their time.
25:32How can people support hype?
25:34And then how can people get in touch with you?
25:36and the organization.
25:38Sure, so we're on the internet.
25:41Our website is hypenola.org.
25:45If you click on, if you go to the website,
25:47you'll see the two icons too.
25:48Then you can find us on Facebook and Instagram.
25:50You can go there through the website
25:51or you can just go on Instagram and type in hypenola.
25:56And you can see the little logo there for Instagram
26:00or for Facebook.
26:03And you can just Google us.
26:06If you type in hype,
26:07no lamentoring in New Orleans,
26:09there'll be this school article that'll pop up
26:11and tell you all about who we are in Link's Tower website.
26:13And if you wanna contact us, the phone number is 504641 hype,
26:18four, 504, 641, 4973.
26:22Mm, that's good.
26:23Jeff, would you put that information in the show notes
26:26just to make sure people can find that information?
26:29That's wonderful.
26:31Now you were mentioning, and we were talking a bit before we came on the air, but you mentioned
26:38here on the air a few moments ago about gap standards, because I see what you and what hype
26:44is doing as an application of the biblical, I would say, exhortation to have people that
26:52are willing to stand in the gap.
26:54Do you see it that way?
26:57I do.
26:58So I'll just give you a little bit of context and history about who I am and my family.
27:01can relate to this just because you're from the area. I watched on both sides of my family.
27:07My dad is from the place called a Magnolia Housing Project and my mother is from a place
27:10they call Gertown and they are hood certifiable as you did. I didn't grow up in the hood with
27:16my family's hood certified and because of it, we have a lot of things that my family's
27:22experience from death, jail, drugs, you name it. We've seen pretty much everything, AIDS,
27:28anything that the world has to offer, my family's dabbled in it and I've seen the consequences of it.
27:34And my experience with going to Oral Roberts University on top of being raised in a home
27:39that was God-faring, I saw what a young person could do when they introduced a
27:45Christ and put it or put in an environment that is conducive for growth in their faith.
27:49And so I wanted to bring that back to my city. You talk about this all the time,
27:54lighting up the darkness. And this was my attempt to come home. I saw a gap. I'm a business management
28:00major and I was a business management major in school. And one of the things that they taught us
28:04was all businesses is find the need and feel it. And so I saw a need even as growing up in church. I saw,
28:10I didn't see young people who are on fire for God and living that way, in particular young men.
28:17And so I wanted to show that you can bring. He wanted that God wants to make his name known
28:23on amongst the heathens.
28:24And I wanted to bring and make his name known in my city
28:27in a place that was known for,
28:28Mardi Gras and Burmistry and a lot of other things.
28:31And so that's what we're trying to do here.
28:35What would you say to somebody who's listening now
28:37because we look and we started out in the scripture
28:41in 2 Timothy 3, things are so bad in the world,
28:45things are this, things are that,
28:47what would you say to someone who may be wrestling
28:50with whether or not God would want to have them to respond
28:53to pick up his cause in their particular area
28:56and in particular endeavor that God may have identified
28:59for them to respond to.
29:00Here's what I would say.
29:04The safest place in the whole world is in the will of God.
29:09This is going to sound interesting.
29:11In my ordination when I was going to get ordained
29:13as a minister, someone asked me what was my name?
29:16And I said, David McGee Jr.
29:18And they asked me was Jr on my birth certificate.
29:20And for a moment I paused, I said, I'm not sure.
29:23So I never looked at my birth certificate to see if Junior was on my birth certificate.
29:28But I realized at that moment, my name and who I am and who I knew to
29:32knew myself to be at that time was who my parents had told me.
29:36When I got called from God and what he told me to do and to come home and to do what I'm doing,
29:42I knew it and I was more confident in it than I was my own name.
29:46I didn't know I knew my my parents had said but I said, you know, they could be lying to me.
29:49I could get down and wrote a five-dollar something later.
29:51But what God was telling me to do was to come in.
29:54Here's what I'm saying.
29:55If God tells you to do something,
29:57no matter where he's telling you to do it,
29:59do it to be a voice crying out in the wilderness,
30:01a lot of people don't want to be in the wilderness.
30:03But, and I heard a pastor say this,
30:05conviction means being so thoroughly convinced
30:08that something is absolutely true,
30:10that you take a stand for it regardless of the consequences.
30:13I had conviction from the Holy Spirit
30:15to do what I was called to do.
30:17And I knew that they may put me in some situations
30:19that are, may seem not safe or may seem,
30:23may not make sense, but I've married my wife
30:25and told her this is what God called me to do.
30:27And she came alongside of me and I would tell anyone
30:30if you get that level of conviction to move on it
30:33because then all of Heaven's resources are backing me.
30:35Mm.
30:37That is something that some people may say,
30:41well, yeah, you know what I hear what you're saying.
30:43And something that often occurs is that
30:47people will look at somebody like you and say,
30:48well, yeah, that's great.
30:49I mean, sure, he can do that, but they'll disqualify themselves from that.
30:53And I've been endeavoring to communicate to people that God isn't requiring you to become
30:58a clone of someone else.
30:59He simply wants you to respond to him and what he's requiring of you, because in his body,
31:03he has, it's comprised of many different members, you know, just because you may be a
31:08thumb in his body and somebody else may be an index finger.
31:11It doesn't mean that you both don't have value.
31:15In light of that kind of conversation,
31:18what would you say to someone who may have an improper
31:21estimation of what it would look like for them to respond
31:24to God's calling their lives because they're trying to compare
31:26themselves to someone else who they may respect or deem
31:29to be a great asset to the kingdom of God?
31:32OK, so you're giving me really excited,
31:34but I was just staying calm here.
31:36Well, you get excited, but we only got about a minute
31:38until we get to the break right now.
31:39Then we can continue to excite with another side of the break.
31:41Go.
31:42Start up the gift that is in you is what the scripture says.
31:45And my wife wrote this book and there's this acronym we ran across says life.
31:49LIF, look inside for exceptional.
31:51Don't look at the exception of reality and other people and think that they have
31:54something that you don't because there's something that God is placed on the
31:57inside of you.
31:57Like you say all the time for this time at this moment to accomplish the thing
32:01that he's called you.
32:02You mentioned this pride is not just saying that I can do anything.
32:05Pride is also saying that I can't do what God called me to do.
32:09The tree told Jesus, I can't, I can't produce figs.
32:12How can the creature tell the creator?
32:15it can't do what God created it.
32:17It's not so.
32:19It's not so.
32:20Well, that's just the intro,
32:21because I want to pick up right from that
32:23on the other side of the break,
32:25because one of the things we were talking about
32:26before we came on the air is that really,
32:29wallowing in self-condemnation,
32:30it may seem like it's a humble disposition,
32:34just because someone may feel negatively.
32:36But if someone is wallowing in condemnation,
32:38and God has said he's set them free,
32:41who are we to not forgive ourselves
32:44God has already forgiven us, you know, and one of the major touchdowns of faith is not as much as
32:49what we say, but can we truly live as if we believe what God has revealed to us in His holy word.
32:55More with David McGee Jr. on the other side of the brink.
32:58The Hamilton Quarter podcast and one-minute commentaries are available at
33:11eafr.net back to the Hamilton Quarter on American Family Radio.
33:18Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner. We're already in the last segment. Before we went to the break,
33:23I asked my guest, David McGee, Jr., executive director of hype harnessing youth potential
33:29and energy you can go to his website, hypenola.org.
33:34That is H-Y-P-E-N-O-L-A dot O-R-G to support the work that he's doing in the New Orleans
33:43area to learn about the ministry.
33:46And also, if you're there and you would want to help out in some capacity, you can get all
33:51of the information right there at hypenola.org.
33:53But what we were talking before the break, Dave,
33:55we alluded to an eye, alluded to in terms of a question
33:59that I asked what the Apostle Paul articulates
34:01in 1 Corinthians 12 and verse 14, it says,
34:04for the body is not one member but many.
34:06If the foot says, because I'm not a hand,
34:08I am not a part of the body, it is not for this reason,
34:12any less part of the body.
34:13And if the ear says, because I'm not an eye,
34:15I'm not a part of the body, it's not for this reason,
34:17any less part of the body, for the whole body were an eye,
34:20Where would the sense of hearing be?
34:22If the whole body were hearing,
34:23where would the sense of smell be?
34:25But now God has placed the members,
34:27each one of them in the body, just as he desired.
34:33This is one of the major sources of scripture
34:37that indicates that the Lord doesn't want us
34:39to be clones of one another,
34:41but he does require each of us to respond to him uniquely
34:44and specifically as he's called us.
34:47And there are some who would disqualify themselves from responding because they've adopted
34:54kind of a perception of themselves or they responded to some of the life shaping issues they've
34:59encountered in life, many sometimes negative experiences or even positive experiences,
35:03but experiences that would move them away from relying upon the Lord. And I know you started
35:08responding in this, but I wanted to give an opportunity to just expound on what you said
35:12to encourage those who may find themselves in that position, hesitating at God's calling them
35:16to follow him in a particular manner.
35:18Yeah, he just said something that kind of triggered something,
35:20and when you said hesitating, I will say this to anyone who's listening.
35:24And this is me being totally transparent.
35:28I was one of those people and I still go through some of those situations where
35:32I'm in the room or I'm doing something, I'm pursuing something and I think,
35:36man, how can I do that? How am I going? How did I get in this room?
35:41Do I belong here at the tagline? If anybody ever sends me an email
35:44at the end of my email it says, believe you belong.
35:47Because I'm constantly speaking to that who's telling me.
35:51I'm not good enough for I don't deserve to be here.
35:54So I would say to anyone, one, I heard a pastor say,
35:58faith is the actions of those who are fully persuaded.
36:02If you lack faith, then you need to get in God's word
36:05and see what he says about you.
36:07And then take the step.
36:10There's a lot of stuff out there about doing it afraid.
36:13And in regards to what you said about everybody playing their part, I may have had this conversation
36:18with you one time we were together. And I remember reading and it was talking about it. It was Elijah
36:23and he was saying, telling God his resume, I did this, this, this, this and all these things. And God
36:28comes to him and says, I got thousands who have not bowed a knee to bail. And the Lord, the Holy Spirit
36:33spoke to me and said, you don't know their names. The only mention of them in the Bible is him saying,
36:38thousands and the Lord asked me, he said, are you willing to be one of the people who are doing
36:45the work of the Lord? But you may never get the recognition in your name in the Bible, but I see
36:49you. And so at the end of the day, I recognized if God called me to do it, then he's positioned me
36:57and given me everything I need to do it. And like we said earlier, to doubt that is to doubt the power
37:03of God. And so if you are lacking in faith, then the way to build our faith is getting the
37:08presence of God, getting the Word, find out who He is and what He says about us.
37:13Well said, very well said. So wild and weird that we're living in a time to where spirituality is
37:23encouraged, but Christ following is rejected. And it's amazing that it is Christ that gives us
37:32unfettered liberty and people often
37:37misconstrue liberty with autonomy.
37:40You know, I mean even the garden were free,
37:43but they were free to function according to
37:45what God had designed and ordained.
37:47Whereas the one who would seek autonomy
37:51is one that would want to determine
37:54what is true for themselves.
37:55That is the suggestion of the talking snake.
37:57Did God surely say?
37:58You know, you won't die, die.
38:00You won't surely die.
38:01And what we find, the Lord has told us very plainly
38:06that the wages of sin that often flows
38:09from this autonomy is death.
38:11But the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus.
38:14And so what I'm driving toward is that there are many
38:18who are being deceived in thinking that being rogues,
38:24straying from God's ordinance, rebelling against him
38:28is actually the way to true freedom and true liberty.
38:31Have you encountered things like that
38:33and you'll work with some of the young people as well?
38:35And then what do you think about that in general?
38:37Sure, so listen, we live and I can say this,
38:40we live in a day and age and I get to talk to these young people
38:42and kind of get this uninformal survey.
38:46When I asked them, I asked young people about,
38:49I asked the question not too long ago,
38:50hey, do you, how many people plan on getting married?
38:54Almost none of them.
38:55And like I said, this is a room full of mostly males, teenagers,
38:58none of them raise their hands.
38:59And then I asked the question,
39:00Well, how many of you want to have children?
39:04Almost all of them raise their hands.
39:06And I've realized at that moment
39:08that the institution of marriage
39:11and some of the things in the biblical principles
39:13that they have some concept of God,
39:15but they don't know him.
39:18They don't know his ways.
39:20They don't know his standards.
39:21They don't, and listen, this is the sad part.
39:22In the one is I can't speak anywhere else.
39:24When someone dies, they put up this big old thing,
39:26a picture of you on the shirt
39:28or on the screen and the clouds.
39:30And I had an opportunity to speak in one of my relatives
39:32generally, one of the things I said was,
39:35you cannot expect to get to heaven
39:37and not know the person who determines whether you get in
39:41and the rules that he said for you to get there.
39:43And we're deceiving ourselves and the truth and the matter is,
39:46a lot of our young people here, the people in our city
39:49have come to the fact that they believe they'll be there.
39:51And the people that have lived the way that they've lived
39:53will be there too, without ever surrendering their life
39:55to Christ.
39:56I will also say this in regards to what you said
39:58about the ability to freedom and of choice.
40:01One of the clues we have here is honesty.
40:04And when you're honest and surrender your life to the Lord,
40:06you'll be free and freedom means you have the ability
40:10to choose to do whatever it is that you wanna do.
40:12But the real freedom is you choose what you will commit to.
40:16So you move from being free to surrender.
40:19But the freedom is in the ability to what will you surrender to
40:23as opposed to being forced to surrender to something.
40:26So, hype talks to them about how do we take all of the gifts and the resources and things
40:31that God has placed on the inside of you. You have free now to choose that. We put you in an
40:35environment hopefully where you're free to choose and show you what you can choose and then commit
40:41to something where you start to limit those freedoms because you're voluntarily surrender everything
40:47to the purpose and call that God has for you. Now, I'm often accused of lots of
40:56different things, you know, but I say things like I'm excited to be alive right now. And I hear people when I say that people like what
41:05Don't you know what's going on out here? I mean you just see how the market crashed over the weekend and all this other kind of stuff. And I said, yeah, I see all of that
41:15But I also know what the word of God says
41:18Also know act 17 when the Lord says that he determined before time the boundaries of our
41:22and the times in which we would live.
41:25And so it is the Lord's ordained purpose for me to be alive
41:29in 21st century America, just as it was,
41:32the Lord's ordained purpose for Moses to meet him
41:34at top Mount Sinai.
41:35You know, this is the opportunity that God has placed me in,
41:38and this time, and I'm excited to be a part of what God would have
41:41me participate in in my lifetime.
41:43Working in the field that you work in and seeing what you see
41:46on a regular basis, many people would say you have great
41:49you have great occasion to be discouraged.
41:52Are you discouraged, Dave?
41:55I will say this.
41:57I am not, but there are moments
42:01where I am tempted to entertain discouragement,
42:05but at the same time, I'm reminded of who God is.
42:11He put me here.
42:12And listen, I'll be honest, you've said this
42:13on your show before, I drive around my city
42:16and I go to other places and visit,
42:18And I'm upset at the potential that we had.
42:22And matter of fact, one of the reasons
42:24that the confirmation is that I came,
42:26the reason I came back to the city of New Orleans
42:28after leaving Oral Roberts was one of my good friends
42:30saying that they paid if all the good people leave.
42:35If all the good people leave,
42:37people is gonna have their way.
42:38Matter of fact, evil only prevail when good men do nothing.
42:41That's kind of the quote he said.
42:43And so that was just the lynch pin for me
42:45to come back and come home.
42:47You said that.
42:48I don't know who said that.
42:49The guy who mentioned the way the two below, but this is okay.
42:55But I remain, I remain, encourage man.
42:57And that's why, you know, Jesus Christ, the son, him crucified is the light.
43:03He is the joy in my salvation.
43:05And I can be, listen, sitting on the island of Patmos and have a tour of heaven.
43:11And that's what I have to believe.
43:13And you know, I'm so grateful that you responded
43:16in a way that you responded.
43:19Because what you described and what I'm describing
43:22is not like a humanistic optimism.
43:24Like being encouraged is not the feature of just,
43:27you know, self-help, mind of a matter type of phenomenon.
43:30And faith is not something that denies reality.
43:33So acknowledging the fact that we all have moments
43:36of discouragement, what you just shared
43:38is that the momentary discouragement
43:40is not the end of the story.
43:42And I think that's what people need to understand,
43:44that when we confront moments of discouragement,
43:48we shouldn't be content to just lay there, to sit there,
43:53but we should take whatever that indication
43:57of that invitation at that moment
43:58and then bring that again afresh to the Lord,
44:01submit that again to the Lord
44:02and not allow our feelings to overwhelm,
44:06because I often say, you heard me say before,
44:08that God has given us emotions,
44:09He's given us feelings,
44:10but not so that we can be led by them and controlled by them.
44:13They are horrible leaders, horrible generals,
44:15but they're tremendous foot soldiers.
44:17We can utilize them and directing them to war
44:19what God is requiring of us.
44:20And by doing so,
44:23enable them to serve the purpose of God made them for,
44:26to give us the internal where we're thought
44:28or follow through once our hearts and minds are resolved,
44:31once our hearts and minds are set,
44:32then our emotions often catch up
44:34when we refuse to allow them to lead.
44:37And that I'll say, listen,
44:39I know you've mentioned this before when I come on the show,
44:42but my dad says this scripture and it's,
44:46don't grow weary and well doing for a new season.
44:48You'll reap if you faint not.
44:49He says, son, it wouldn't have said, don't grow weary
44:53if there wasn't gonna be a point where you would become weary.
44:56Jesus is a great example and I love it.
44:58He called me the other day.
44:59He says, son, I just ran across the scripture.
45:01When Jesus called you, your dad called you.
45:04My dad called me through my dad.
45:07He said, son, listen, listen, listen, listen,
45:12You read the description where he says,
45:15and Jesus learned or increasing wisdom.
45:18And I've been out, we were, he's like,
45:19man, you gotta tell me, what do you think about that?
45:22And I'll say this if nothing else.
45:24This is a God who never experiences disappointment
45:27or a deficiency in any way.
45:29And so if nothing else,
45:32experiencing the emotion of possible discouragement
45:35or pain or anything,
45:37and the Bible talks about right before
45:38in the Garden Against Somebody,
45:39how he was just the weight of the world was on him.
45:42And then he looks and he says,
45:44nevertheless, not my will, but I will be done.
45:46And so I have to have more faith in the calling of God
45:49than all of my emotions and what everything else
45:52is communicating to me.
45:53And so I'm in this world, but I'm not of it.
45:55And sometimes this earth's suit will try to take
45:59the driver's seat, but it will lie to you
46:02and tell you that you're at the end of your rope.
46:04And then I heard someone say,
46:06that old Christian song, reach beyond the break.
46:10And so I get to the end of the rope, they say, tie a knot.
46:13And reaching, I teach the young people that are reaching
46:15is the epitome of humility.
46:18If I have everything within me, then I don't need to reach.
46:21But when we put our hands up as surrender to God
46:22and reach out, it says that I don't have it.
46:24I'm not sufficient.
46:25And so that's when an Irish time of weakness,
46:27hysterent is made perfect.
46:28So actually Paul says, I like when I get to this point,
46:31when I get to the end and it looks like I'm at my extremity,
46:35that's God's opportunity.
46:36So what's coming in the future for hype?
46:40What are some of the things you're looking to in the future?
46:43What are some of the objectives you're looking to accomplish
46:45with this upcoming, I guess they would call it,
46:48the academic year?
46:50Yes. So here's the goal.
46:53What we'd like to do, we just recently expanded
46:55about the running the space next to us.
46:58And we'd like to fill that space to do tutoring,
47:01after school enrichment, some STEM stuff there,
47:04and a little more recreational space.
47:06And ultimately grow this space,
47:08grow out of this space until it's too small to do
47:11what we wanna do,
47:12but have we have a relationship with the Jefferson Parish
47:14School Board where these young people are wanting to be
47:18a part of what we're doing.
47:19And so where there are gaps in their education in that home,
47:22when they come straight from school here,
47:24we feed them, tutor them, talk to them about life,
47:27and then we can send them on their way
47:29because there's a lot of parents who are working.
47:31They don't have the time, the money, other resources.
47:33and we want to just help them as they progress
47:36through middle school and high school.
47:37So right now we're trying to figure out
47:39how we can one, get them here, the transportation,
47:42two, get all of the computers and everything
47:44that we need to put into that space.
47:46So right now we're filling out a bunch of grants,
47:49shaking a lot of hands and going to a lot of meetings
47:51to put the word out there and see if we can make this happen.
47:55David McGee, Jr. Ladies and Gentlemen,
47:57hypenola.org is the website, H-Y-P-E-N-O-L-A.org is the website.
48:06You have an opportunity to help in any capacity,
48:11even if it's praying, please understand
48:13that that is not a small contribution.
48:16Pray for the work, pray that the Lord would glorify himself
48:20through hype, through Dave,
48:23through all of the people who are working,
48:25his wonderful family and may God be glorified.
48:29And as you are listening to this program,
48:31I want to encourage you to see with the Lord
48:33would require of you in this time.
48:36Until next time, y'all have a great evening.
48:43The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast
48:45may not necessarily reflect those
48:47of the American Family Association
48:49or American Family Radio.

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